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IS The Resurrection of Jesus Christ total BS or Absolutely True?

 
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IS The Resurrection of Jesus Christ total BS or Absolutely True?
The Resurrection of Jesus Christ is either ...
the greatest event, or the greatest fraud — in history!


Did Jesus Christ actually rise from the dead?



Dr. Greenleaf, the Royal Professor of Law at Harvard University, was one of the greatest legal minds that ever lived. He wrote the famous legal volume entitled, A Treatise on the Law of Evidence, considered by many the greatest legal volume ever written. Dr. Simon Greenleaf believed the Resurrection of Jesus Christ was a hoax. And he determined, once and for all, to expose the "myth" of the Resurrection. After thoroughly examining the evidence for the resurrection — Dr. Greenleaf came to the exact opposite conclusion! He wrote a book entitled, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice. In which he emphatically stated:
"it was IMPOSSIBLE that the apostles could have persisted in affirming the truths they had narrated, had not JESUS CHRIST ACTUALLY RISEN FROM THE DEAD, . . ."
(Simon Greenleaf, An Examination of the Testimony of the Four Evangelists by the Rules of Evidence Administered in the Courts of Justice, p.29).

Greenleaf concluded that according to the jurisdiction of legal evidence the resurrection of Jesus Christ was the best supported event in all of history!
And not only that, Dr. Greenleaf was so convinced by the overwhelming evidence, he committed his life to Jesus Christ!

What changed his mind? What evidence did Dr. Greenleaf encounter that so drastically turned him around? What facts did he discover that he could not rationally ignore?


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The resurrection is also documented by historians at that time who were not Jewish and not Christians. Flavius Josephus was one that comes to mind.
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I would suggest that, before trying to understand the Resurrection, that you first understand why Jesus was murdered in the first place:

He was murdered for teaching the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; a Doctrine which threatened both the Sadducees and the Pharisees.

Thus, he was NOT raised from the dead for the purpose of validating the Egyptian 'god of the dead' (Chapter 20, verse 38 of the Gospel of Luke) doctrine of a physical raising of a dead body from the grave.

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Yeah the Sun resurrect every day!
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No one has ever resurrected. That would require a reversal of "times arrow."

The res. of Lazarus was biblical fiction dreamed up by the last Gospel John, to support emerging Christian theology. John also dreamed up the water to wine magic trick.

According to the Talmud of Jmmanuel (see Amazon) Jmmanuel=Jesus deliberately participated in a NEAR-DEATH experience. He was whisked out a secret back door in the burial cave. He was then nursed back to health be East Indian medical men.
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You´ll soon know.
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This will be the beginning
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Re: IS The Resurrection of Jesus Christ total BS or Absolutely True?
No one has ever resurrected. That would require a reversal of "times arrow."
 Quoting: m 35779142


Your ignorance is, apparently, 'ambidextrous'.

Clearly, you know nothing about Revelation.

But you also know nothing about Time Symmetrical Quantum Mechanics, which demonstrates that time goes in both directions simultaneously, as well as Reverse Speech Analysis, in which it can be demonstrated that information comes backwards in time from the future.

Maybe you should do a little more reading before 'shooting from the hip' with such comments.

Michael
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Yeah the Sun resurrect every day!
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...toungeexcept on you
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Re: IS The Resurrection of Jesus Christ total BS or Absolutely True?
No one has ever resurrected. That would require a reversal of "times arrow."

The res. of Lazarus was biblical fiction dreamed up by the last Gospel John, to support emerging Christian theology. John also dreamed up the water to wine magic trick.

According to the Talmud of Jmmanuel (see Amazon) Jmmanuel=Jesus deliberately participated in a NEAR-DEATH experience. He was whisked out a secret back door in the burial cave. He was then nursed back to health be East Indian medical men.
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...and based on the principles of irrefutable evidence, how is your assertion proven? Just asking... and, would you trust those principles if you were wrongly accused in a court of Law?
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Re: IS The Resurrection of Jesus Christ total BS or Absolutely True?
I would suggest that, before trying to understand the Resurrection, that you first understand why Jesus was murdered in the first place:

He was murdered for teaching the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'; a Doctrine which threatened both the Sadducees and the Pharisees.

Thus, he was NOT raised from the dead for the purpose of validating the Egyptian 'god of the dead' (Chapter 20, verse 38 of the Gospel of Luke) doctrine of a physical raising of a dead body from the grave.

Michael
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stfu Putin
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No one has ever resurrected. That would require a reversal of "times arrow."
 Quoting: m 35779142


Your ignorance is, apparently, 'ambidextrous'.

Clearly, you know nothing about Revelation.

But you also know nothing about Time Symmetrical Quantum Mechanics, which demonstrates that time goes in both directions simultaneously, as well as Reverse Speech Analysis, in which it can be demonstrated that information comes backwards in time from the future.

Maybe you should do a little more reading before 'shooting from the hip' with such comments.

Michael
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Yeah! What he said! Wow Michael, that is the very principle by which all of creation is founded. From the End to the Beginning. See Michael Rood and the Fall Feasts. God bless you and the gift of understanding you have.
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I have faith in the accounts of the Apostles. They are trustworthy men.
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It was probably a misinterpretation of the facts, made by less educated and more superstitious people. Once recorded in writing events are parsed by readers who do not have direct experience.
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You´ll soon know.
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...yes we will; we all will! Good reply and God bless you!hf
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The Resurrection of Jesus Christ is either ...
the greatest event, or the greatest fraud — in history!

Did Jesus Christ actually rise from the dead?

 Quoting: 5 Fires 27739153


Did NOah build a 900 foot boat that held 1 billion animals, and food and water for 40 days?
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Yeah the Sun resurrect every day!
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No it is not. It simply becomes visible to observers again, after being occluded by the earth.
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Re: IS The Resurrection of Jesus Christ total BS or Absolutely True?
No one has ever resurrected. That would require a reversal of "times arrow."
 Quoting: m 35779142


Your ignorance is, apparently, 'ambidextrous'.

Clearly, you know nothing about Revelation.

But you also know nothing about Time Symmetrical Quantum Mechanics, which demonstrates that time goes in both directions simultaneously, as well as Reverse Speech Analysis, in which it can be demonstrated that information comes backwards in time from the future.

Maybe you should do a little more reading before 'shooting from the hip' with such comments.

Michael
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"Your ignorance is, apparently, 'ambidextrous'."

I love that line!
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Re: IS The Resurrection of Jesus Christ total BS or Absolutely True?
why not read what Jesus wrote in
The Christ Letters:

Therefore it is not possible to continue to believe in Christian dogma and also try to follow these Letters because dogma, relating to ‘salvation by my death on the cross’, the Trinity, physical resurrection from the dead, and use of incense and set forms of prayer, are fallacious and the facts now presented to you in these Letters are Truth. The dogma and the sacramental trimmings are, what you would term ‘red herrings’, to gain your attention and allegiance but obscuring the Truth of my teachings.

Therefore, these Letters had to be written.


The above is a fraction from letter 3
[link to christsway.co.za]

All these wonderful letters can be found here:
[link to christsway.co.za] hf
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In the middle because its an allegory IMO...

C'mon he dies at 33? Same allegory as Phoenix rising from ashes?
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No one has ever resurrected. That would require a reversal of "times arrow."

<snip>
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No it would not. It would require all the attributes of a person to have been somehow recorded and their dead body to be restored with those attributes.
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Why can't you figure this ancient idiotic picture out? It's 2013 and you need help with this? Really?
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considering the Bible is a retelling of a retelling of a retelling of a retelling of a story about the stars, I'd have to go with

"doubt it"
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You´ll soon know.
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...yes we will; we all will! Good reply and God bless you!hf
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blessing to you

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There will come a time when you believe everything ends.
This will be the beginning
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Absolutely true.
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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No one has ever resurrected. That would require a reversal of "times arrow."
 Quoting: m 35779142


Your ignorance is, apparently, 'ambidextrous'.

Clearly, you know nothing about Revelation.

But you also know nothing about Time Symmetrical Quantum Mechanics, which demonstrates that time goes in both directions simultaneously WRONG, as well as Reverse Speech Analysis, in which it can be demonstrated that information comes backwards in time from the future.

Maybe you should do a little more reading before 'shooting from the hip' with such comments.

Michael
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Thats all good, but time only moves forward, even though it exists all at once. It is IMPOSSIBLE for time to 'move' backwards. Therefore the arrow comment is more correct than yours, sorry.
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Just the short list....
See and research for yourself...

Horus - Egypt 3000 BC
Born Dec. 25, born of a virgin, birth was signaled by the east star, adored by 3 kings, had 12 disciples, performed miracles, known as "lamb of god" and "the light", crucified, was buried 3 days, was resurrected.

Attis - Greece 1200 BC
Born Dec. 25, born of a virgin, was crucified, dead for 3 days, was resurrected.

Mithra - Persia 1200 BC
born Dec. 25, born of a virgin, had 12 disciples, performed miracles, dead for 3 days, resurrected, known as "the truth" and "the light", sunday was the day of worship.

Krishna - India 900BC
Born of a virgin, birth signaled by east star, performed miracles, was resurrected.

Dionysus - Greece 500 BC
Born Dec. 25, born of a virgin, performed miracles, known as "king of kings" and "alpha and omega", was resurrected upon death.
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He is risen! Absolutely true.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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what happened to the multitude that were resurrected with him? Wasn't that a bigger deal than one man being resurrected? BTW, who were they and what happened to them?
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No one has ever resurrected. That would require a reversal of "times arrow."
 Quoting: m 35779142


Your ignorance is, apparently, 'ambidextrous'.

Clearly, you know nothing about Revelation.

But you also know nothing about Time Symmetrical Quantum Mechanics, which demonstrates that time goes in both directions simultaneously WRONG, as well as Reverse Speech Analysis, in which it can be demonstrated that information comes backwards in time from the future.

Maybe you should do a little more reading before 'shooting from the hip' with such comments.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Thats all good, but time only moves forward, even though it exists all at once. It is IMPOSSIBLE for time to 'move' backwards. Therefore the arrow comment is more correct than yours, sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3159647


You really need to read a little more about these things.

Reverse Speech Analysis clearly demonstrates a backwards flow of information. Investigate it.

In addition, there are numerous experiments demonstrating pre-cognition of events; that is, information going backwards in time.

In the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives--referred to as "the resurrection"--there is, in fact, a time-reversal of consciousness; backwards in 'time' prior to the existence of the 'thinker', and prior to the existence of the "self" to the non-dualistic consciousness prior to 'the Fall'.

These memories are experienced in real time--i.e., in a time forward direction--after the initial time-reversal from the present consciousness of the 'thinker' and the "self".

Now, the reason for the "arrow of time" going only in a forward direction is for the purpose of preserving the consciousness of the "self" from collapsing into psychosis, as is evident in the first sentences of the Second Meditation of Descartes, when he doubts all thought; the function of which is to preserve the "self" from collapsing into itself.

Michael
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"Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split, and the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after his resurrection, they went into the holy city and appeared to many." (Matthew 27:50-53).

Were these zombies? What happened to them? Who the hell were they? Why are no names given?
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Just the short list....
See and research for yourself...

Horus - Egypt 3000 BC
Born Dec. 25, born of a virgin, birth was signaled by the east star, adored by 3 kings, had 12 disciples, performed miracles, known as "lamb of god" and "the light", crucified, was buried 3 days, was resurrected.

Attis - Greece 1200 BC
Born Dec. 25, born of a virgin, was crucified, dead for 3 days, was resurrected.

Mithra - Persia 1200 BC
born Dec. 25, born of a virgin, had 12 disciples, performed miracles, dead for 3 days, resurrected, known as "the truth" and "the light", sunday was the day of worship.

Krishna - India 900BC
Born of a virgin, birth signaled by east star, performed miracles, was resurrected.

Dionysus - Greece 500 BC
Born Dec. 25, born of a virgin, performed miracles, known as "king of kings" and "alpha and omega", was resurrected upon death.
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