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Pyractomena borealis
User ID: 20793638 United States 07/10/2013 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes,,,, and almost without exception, depression is fear based. For decades parents have been teaching their children to be afraid very early with the help of religions, government and teachers. profit, power and control for TPTB..... My breakthrough.....understanding most of what we are told to be be truths are actually lies. No fear here. Last Edited by Pyractomena borealis on 07/10/2013 07:15 PM There is nothing so powerful as truth, and often nothing so strange ~ Daniel Webster Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43155136 United States 07/10/2013 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That moment in your life. The moment so trans-formative that you lose all sense of fear. Quoting: Forgotten Fear of death Fear of others Fear of this Fear of that Every fear gone. How many GLP members are at this point? Anyone care to share what event was your breakthrough? what event was your breakthrough? |
Pyractomena borealis
User ID: 20793638 United States 07/10/2013 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes,,,, Quoting: Pyractomena borealis and almost without exception, depression is fear based. For decades parents have been teaching their children to be afraid very early with the help of religions, government and teachers. profit, power and control for TPTB..... My breakthrough.....understanding most of what we are told to be be truths are actually lies. No fear here. There is nothing so powerful as truth, and often nothing so strange ~ Daniel Webster Omnia Vincit Amor ~ Virgil The more you learn, the less you know ~ Socrates That writer does the most, who gives his reader the most knowledge, and takes from him the least time. ~ Charles Caleb Colton |
Forgotten
(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That moment in your life. The moment so trans-formative that you lose all sense of fear. Quoting: Forgotten Fear of death Fear of others Fear of this Fear of that Every fear gone. How many GLP members are at this point? Anyone care to share what event was your breakthrough? what event was your breakthrough? Thank you for asking. I am happy to share.... It was June of last year. I had been practicing meditation for about 6 months. I felt as though I was "getting better at it". Well, I was in deep meditation. I was focusing on how small I could "sense my energy" to how "large my energy expanded from my body". The next thing I know I feel this sense of "vibration". Almost an "internal" vibration. It was hard to keep my meditative state through this experience, but somehow I managed. Then in an instant I was out of my body. I was laying on my back (as I do during most meditation), and I "floated" up and out of my body. There is more to this expierence that I can share, but this was my "moment". I realized that I was "eternal". My body may fail, but the "real me" would live on forever. And all my fears were gone. So, I had my first OBE about 2 weeks ago. It was an amazing experience, but something still intrigues me Quoting: Me 1 year agoDuring my experience, it seemed as though I had no male or female parts. I just "was". When I first noticed my lack of genitalia, I was pulled back into my body. I was able to continue with my OBE, but only for a short while. I kept trying to analyze my lack of gender. Anyone else have anything like this occur during astral travel/OBE/Lucid dreaming? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten
(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes,,,, Quoting: Pyractomena borealis and almost without exception, depression is fear based. For decades parents have been teaching their children to be afraid very early with the help of religions, government and teachers. profit, power and control for TPTB..... My breakthrough.....understanding most of what we are told to be be truths are actually lies. No fear here. Yep, most things we are taught/told are lies, with a tiny amount of truth mixed in. Not to far from my experience, just a different trigger to make me fully accept that everything was/is a lie. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 07/10/2013 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty cool, OP. the vibration state you speak of is pretty euphoric. I've felt it through meditation and through trying to invoke some OBEs throughout my life. SOmetimes I wake up from sleep buzzing. have you heard an unusually loud sound inside your head right before you're about to take off? "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
Forgotten
(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty cool, OP. the vibration state you speak of is pretty euphoric. I've felt it through meditation and through trying to invoke some OBEs throughout my life. SOmetimes I wake up from sleep buzzing. have you heard an unusually loud sound inside your head right before you're about to take off? Quoting: eekers Sound... not in the 'traditional' sense. It is hard to explain. Can your brain vibrate and make sounds? It was like I was humming internally. Buzzing as you say. As soon as I "left my body" the vibrations stopped. Immediately. The most amazing day of my life. Only been able to have 4 total OBE. Hard to find peace/quiet/time to mediate. The system is designed to keep you from asking the right questions and doing the right things. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Chas
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(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know what you mean. I felt that way for the longest time. Like I was "close" to something, but couldnt really grasp what it was. or what I was missing. I have a feeling you will have your breakthrough soon. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty cool, OP. the vibration state you speak of is pretty euphoric. I've felt it through meditation and through trying to invoke some OBEs throughout my life. SOmetimes I wake up from sleep buzzing. have you heard an unusually loud sound inside your head right before you're about to take off? Quoting: eekers Has the buzzing/vibration gotten less intense for you? As you get better at it? It still happens for me. But it doesnt "shock" my system as it used too. Doesnt feel as strong as a vibration, but perhaps I am just becoming more accustomed to the feeling? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 07/10/2013 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty cool, OP. the vibration state you speak of is pretty euphoric. I've felt it through meditation and through trying to invoke some OBEs throughout my life. SOmetimes I wake up from sleep buzzing. have you heard an unusually loud sound inside your head right before you're about to take off? Quoting: eekers Sound... not in the 'traditional' sense. It is hard to explain. Can your brain vibrate and make sounds? It was like I was humming internally. Buzzing as you say. As soon as I "left my body" the vibrations stopped. Immediately. The most amazing day of my life. Only been able to have 4 total OBE. Hard to find peace/quiet/time to mediate. The system is designed to keep you from asking the right questions and doing the right things. yes, like a crackling loud weird vibration, like you said. the more you practice with the energy the more easy it will become. I go through phases when it's easier for me to have OBEs and lucid dreams and other phases when i have to try to hard. and then there's the times when I wake up when it's about to occur and I get way too excited and snap back. I have learned to let it happen rather than try, otherwise I get too cerebral trying to go for it and then I lose it. have you tried to move your energy/buzzing field up and down your body? it helps to loosen yourself from the body. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 07/10/2013 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty cool, OP. the vibration state you speak of is pretty euphoric. I've felt it through meditation and through trying to invoke some OBEs throughout my life. SOmetimes I wake up from sleep buzzing. have you heard an unusually loud sound inside your head right before you're about to take off? Quoting: eekers Has the buzzing/vibration gotten less intense for you? As you get better at it? It still happens for me. But it doesnt "shock" my system as it used too. Doesnt feel as strong as a vibration, but perhaps I am just becoming more accustomed to the feeling? it really varies in intensity for me. sometimes I'm more predisposed to it than others. once I'm out, I feel free and euphoric and I get that roller coaster feeling in my gut. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 07/10/2013 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty cool, OP. the vibration state you speak of is pretty euphoric. I've felt it through meditation and through trying to invoke some OBEs throughout my life. SOmetimes I wake up from sleep buzzing. have you heard an unusually loud sound inside your head right before you're about to take off? Quoting: eekers Sound... not in the 'traditional' sense. It is hard to explain. Can your brain vibrate and make sounds? It was like I was humming internally. Buzzing as you say. As soon as I "left my body" the vibrations stopped. Immediately. The most amazing day of my life. Only been able to have 4 total OBE. Hard to find peace/quiet/time to mediate. The system is designed to keep you from asking the right questions and doing the right things. it's the same as "sight" when out of the body. it's like you can see through your eyelids, you don't have to look to see thins. I understand exactly what you're saying. sensory perception is different bc you are not bound by your senses. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
Forgotten
(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty cool, OP. the vibration state you speak of is pretty euphoric. I've felt it through meditation and through trying to invoke some OBEs throughout my life. SOmetimes I wake up from sleep buzzing. have you heard an unusually loud sound inside your head right before you're about to take off? Quoting: eekers Sound... not in the 'traditional' sense. It is hard to explain. Can your brain vibrate and make sounds? It was like I was humming internally. Buzzing as you say. As soon as I "left my body" the vibrations stopped. Immediately. The most amazing day of my life. Only been able to have 4 total OBE. Hard to find peace/quiet/time to mediate. The system is designed to keep you from asking the right questions and doing the right things. yes, like a crackling loud weird vibration, like you said. the more you practice with the energy the more easy it will become. I go through phases when it's easier for me to have OBEs and lucid dreams and other phases when i have to try to hard. and then there's the times when I wake up when it's about to occur and I get way too excited and snap back. I have learned to let it happen rather than try, otherwise I get too cerebral trying to go for it and then I lose it. have you tried to move your energy/buzzing field up and down your body? it helps to loosen yourself from the body. I have my best luck by playing with my "energy locations". I like trying to expand my energy so it fills the entire room (in my minds eye). Then out to the entire earth, the universe. Then I reverse it, and try to consrict my awareness of my energy down to the finite. Ever smaller. From my "head" to my gut, then smaller, and smaller. I use a technique similiar to yours when starting meditation though. Sensing my energy in different parts of my body. Focusing there, and moving it. I do that just before I start to "blank my mind". *intrigued* We should talk more. Anyone else have this loss of fear? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty cool, OP. the vibration state you speak of is pretty euphoric. I've felt it through meditation and through trying to invoke some OBEs throughout my life. SOmetimes I wake up from sleep buzzing. have you heard an unusually loud sound inside your head right before you're about to take off? Quoting: eekers Sound... not in the 'traditional' sense. It is hard to explain. Can your brain vibrate and make sounds? It was like I was humming internally. Buzzing as you say. As soon as I "left my body" the vibrations stopped. Immediately. The most amazing day of my life. Only been able to have 4 total OBE. Hard to find peace/quiet/time to mediate. The system is designed to keep you from asking the right questions and doing the right things. it's the same as "sight" when out of the body. it's like you can see through your eyelids, you don't have to look to see thins. I understand exactly what you're saying. sensory perception is different bc you are not bound by your senses. It is all "weird". Like you cant see anything but what you are focusing on, until you "look up". Then the whole universe wants to be shown to you. "What to pick" "What to ask/look into this time". Always my toughest decisions. If I try to think about my topic before meditation I cant still my mind. Really irks me. I am still practicing though. I am getting better at it. Hopefully I will be able to do it at will one day. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only fear I feel now is what others project. Quoting: Chris Froome 43131836 And I cannot understand it. I cannot understand why anyone would happily live as a slave when you can live as a human being. Empathy almost "ESP" like seems to be heightened. You can walk into a room and "feel the emotion"? or be around a person and feel the emotional state before they say a word? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten
(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The death of my mom two years back gave me a push on this path to today's almost fear free. Still holding on to something because I see it in my reactions but mostly know there is nothing to fear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33322498 Care to talk more about that? Was it "just" her passing. Or a secondary event that happened? Like a visitation from her? A dream? An overwhelming emotion? (Besides grief etc.)? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
eekers
Dreamer of Dreams User ID: 38137469 United States 07/10/2013 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have my best luck by playing with my "energy locations". Quoting: Forgotten I like trying to expand my energy so it fills the entire room (in my minds eye). Then out to the entire earth, the universe. Then I reverse it, and try to consrict my awareness of my energy down to the finite. Ever smaller. From my "head" to my gut, then smaller, and smaller. I use a technique similiar to yours when starting meditation though. Sensing my energy in different parts of my body. Focusing there, and moving it. I do that just before I start to "blank my mind". *intrigued* We should talk more. Anyone else have this loss of fear? yeah, the expanding of energy is a good technique, helps expand the consciousness and make you aware of being more than your body. I added you to my buddy list and am marking this thread for future reference in my favorites. "We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot |
Forgotten
(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have my best luck by playing with my "energy locations". Quoting: Forgotten I like trying to expand my energy so it fills the entire room (in my minds eye). Then out to the entire earth, the universe. Then I reverse it, and try to consrict my awareness of my energy down to the finite. Ever smaller. From my "head" to my gut, then smaller, and smaller. I use a technique similiar to yours when starting meditation though. Sensing my energy in different parts of my body. Focusing there, and moving it. I do that just before I start to "blank my mind". *intrigued* We should talk more. Anyone else have this loss of fear? yeah, the expanding of energy is a good technique, helps expand the consciousness and make you aware of being more than your body. I added you to my buddy list and am marking this thread for future reference in my favorites. Feel free to hit me up at the email account below too. Always looking to debate/talk about my favorite subjects. Pleased to make your acquaintance. Added to list as well. Namaste Last Edited by Forgotten on 07/10/2013 07:48 PM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 08:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant leave us hanging like that! What was your greatest fear. How did you overcome it? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
M1.618
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(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cant leave us hanging like that! What was your greatest fear. How did you overcome it? its personal... most will not understand... it was simply to live in this world. The world of the knowledge of evil & manipulation, cause and effect. Fair enough. I understand completely. I had to ask though. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33322498 United States 07/10/2013 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The death of my mom two years back gave me a push on this path to today's almost fear free. Still holding on to something because I see it in my reactions but mostly know there is nothing to fear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33322498 Care to talk more about that? Was it "just" her passing. Or a secondary event that happened? Like a visitation from her? A dream? An overwhelming emotion? (Besides grief etc.)? Through her illness and death, many of my worst imagined fears were played out. Like watching a loved one die from cancer and the ICU emergency moments that can come with the experience. I realized fear is an illusion. Death is not the end and should not be feared. I did connect with her in visions after her passing. I have come to learn though the experience that nothing real can be threatened. Concepts from a course in miracles helps me with this. |
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(OP) User ID: 29097718 United States 07/10/2013 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The death of my mom two years back gave me a push on this path to today's almost fear free. Still holding on to something because I see it in my reactions but mostly know there is nothing to fear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33322498 Care to talk more about that? Was it "just" her passing. Or a secondary event that happened? Like a visitation from her? A dream? An overwhelming emotion? (Besides grief etc.)? Through her illness and death, many of my worst imagined fears were played out. Like watching a loved one die from cancer and the ICU emergency moments that can come with the experience. I realized fear is an illusion. Death is not the end and should not be feared. I did connect with her in visions after her passing. I have come to learn though the experience that nothing real can be threatened. Concepts from a course in miracles helps me with this. *Mind Blown* I am a big Marriane Williamson fan. I post this video often here on GLP. I watch it about 5 times a week. Thank you for sharing. I hope it did not "dredge up" too many emotions. [link to www.youtube.com] Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 07/10/2013 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes to fear of death, others, the unknown, etc :freedom1: I probably still have a phobia about heights though. If you asked me to stand near the edge of a cliff or near the edge of the roof of a tall building, my legs would still get weak and I would feel uncomfortable. More of an automatic reaction than a conscious fear though. You won't find me free climbing a mountain face anytime soon haha. |