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Suicide is not the answer.

 
Elemental  (OP)

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07/11/2013 10:53 AM

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Deepest condolences.

However, I wouldn't worry. Suicide has nothing to do with not knowing your loved or not. I'm sure she knew you loved her much. Sometimes being loved is just NOT enough.
 Quoting: Master X


Some people feel so, or they think about themselves as not deserving of love. Too much tortured souls...
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Very true words my friend hf
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Elemental  (OP)

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07/11/2013 10:56 AM

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She mustve felt alone, parents fault
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42818943


Bad parenting either brings a lifetime of misery or suicidal thoughts/actions.

OP was probably a shitty mother.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39819040


Go shut your mouth!
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Truth stings, huh?
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No, just a stupid, ignorant thing to say. I'm surprised that you would want to embarrass yourself.
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
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07/11/2013 11:04 AM
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I'm so sorry for your loss Elemental, I can't even imagine your grief. verysad
Elemental  (OP)

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07/11/2013 11:07 AM

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I'm so sorry for your loss Elemental, I can't even imagine your grief. verysad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15170057


Thank you so much hf what horrifies me is that so many young people do this.....mental health care in the uk needs huge and urgent reform.
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
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Dum vivimus vivamus
Elemental  (OP)

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I'm so sorry for your loss Elemental, I can't even imagine your grief. verysad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15170057


Sorry, doubled...flipping iPad!

Last Edited by Elemental on 07/11/2013 11:08 AM
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
wildhoney nli
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07/11/2013 11:11 AM
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Gosh op..no words can help dull your pain..praying for you hugs for strength in these trying times..

Many many Blessings your way op..rose
Elemental  (OP)

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07/11/2013 11:21 AM

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Gosh op..no words can help dull your pain..praying for you hugs for strength in these trying times..

Many many Blessings your way op..rose
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Thank you sweetheart. Your words are much appreciated.
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
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Gosh op..no words can help dull your pain..praying for you hugs for strength in these trying times..

Many many Blessings your way op..rose
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Thank you sweetheart. Your words are much appreciated.
 Quoting: Elemental


Your response to the tragedy is beyond words Elemental..in my opinión your response is absolutely perfect..for so many reasons..instead of letting the grief bury you..you are instead using the pain to reach out and help others..you are an Angel..wonderful hugs absolutely wonderful rose
Elemental  (OP)

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07/11/2013 11:27 AM

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I have no words enough to thank you xxx
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
watchout4snakes

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07/11/2013 11:29 AM
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OP, I admire your strength and your heart.

I think about suicide also quite a lot. It's not even that I have a shitty life or that nobody cares about me or loves me. I just feel empty inside. Everything good in my life I tend to unconsciously but systematically destroy and there is no bounds to the hate I feel towards myself. Girls, weed, anti-depressants, it all doesn't help or just for a short period of time.

But I can't and won't do this to my mother, so I will keep on going through the motions at least as long as she is with us.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
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07/11/2013 11:34 AM

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OP, I admire your strength and your heart.

I think about suicide also quite a lot. It's not even that I have a shitty life or that nobody cares about me or loves me. I just feel empty inside. Everything good in my life I tend to unconsciously but systematically destroy and there is no bounds to the hate I feel towards myself. Girls, weed, anti-depressants, it all doesn't help or just for a short period of time.

But I can't and won't do this to my mother, so I will keep on going through the motions at least as long as she is with us.
 Quoting: watchout4snakes


You're a strong, loving soul. What do you hate about yourself? You have a loyal heart which is willing to suffer for your mother, a strength of character to be proud of. Life is never easy...better, not bitter...that's my way of coping. How can I help you to see the beauty in life?
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
watchout4snakes

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07/11/2013 11:46 AM
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OP, I admire your strength and your heart.

I think about suicide also quite a lot. It's not even that I have a shitty life or that nobody cares about me or loves me. I just feel empty inside. Everything good in my life I tend to unconsciously but systematically destroy and there is no bounds to the hate I feel towards myself. Girls, weed, anti-depressants, it all doesn't help or just for a short period of time.

But I can't and won't do this to my mother, so I will keep on going through the motions at least as long as she is with us.
 Quoting: watchout4snakes


You're a strong, loving soul. What do you hate about yourself? You have a loyal heart which is willing to suffer for your mother, a strength of character to be proud of. Life is never easy...better, not bitter...that's my way of coping. How can I help you to see the beauty in life?
 Quoting: Elemental


Thank you so much, just you posting this thread is helping. No need to worry about me, I will soldier on, but it is really good to know there are still people like you around.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
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07/11/2013 11:53 AM
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Continue to count your blessings.

Understand that true wealth is happiness, and life can drastically change in an instant for any one of us.

A sincere thank you to all the one's that care enough to recognize the pain of others.

Life is shared.
Elemental  (OP)

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07/11/2013 11:55 AM

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OP, I admire your strength and your heart.

I think about suicide also quite a lot. It's not even that I have a shitty life or that nobody cares about me or loves me. I just feel empty inside. Everything good in my life I tend to unconsciously but systematically destroy and there is no bounds to the hate I feel towards myself. Girls, weed, anti-depressants, it all doesn't help or just for a short period of time.

But I can't and won't do this to my mother, so I will keep on going through the motions at least as long as she is with us.
 Quoting: watchout4snakes


You're a strong, loving soul. What do you hate about yourself? You have a loyal heart which is willing to suffer for your mother, a strength of character to be proud of. Life is never easy...better, not bitter...that's my way of coping. How can I help you to see the beauty in life?
 Quoting: Elemental


Thank you so much, just you posting this thread is helping. No need to worry about me, I will soldier on, but it is really good to know there are still people like you around.
 Quoting: watchout4snakes


Please feel free to message me if you ever need to chat; I'm always around during the day and more than happy to listen xx I've added you to my buddy list, hope that's ok :))

Last Edited by Elemental on 07/11/2013 11:56 AM
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
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07/11/2013 12:05 PM
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who cares about love?!the most important thing in life is MONEY!without MONEY life is not worth living - period!also most suicides are caused by lack of money like by losing ones job.
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07/11/2013 12:08 PM
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I could have written that. Am tired of the constant struggle while watching others have all the things I want while they glide through life. My life is a disaster.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42826747


Yes, and for me they just keep coming facing the prospect of worsening problems plus old age. It's just too much to handle.

I've thought maybe I'm cursed. I don't have any answers.
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07/11/2013 12:14 PM
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Stfu, Canada. Don't try to project your silliness on other human beings.

I had everything and yet I have nothing only a decade later. Life becomes unlivable toruture knowing you somehow already peaked in your youth. All down hill from here they say, but I think it's an uphill struggle for the bare minimum, more like Sysiphus and his boulder.

I'm degenerating on every level, where I used to be excelling. I can't reach that level again, let alone transcend it.

Time to go all-in and call it quits, dog... That's what it comes down to for me, but no-one has the balls to say that to my face.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1725135


Don't despair my man. Hang on in there.
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07/11/2013 12:21 PM
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Deepest condolences.

However, I wouldn't worry. Suicide has nothing to do with not knowing you're loved or not. I'm sure she knew you loved her much. Sometimes being loved is just NOT enough though. I love plenty and am plenty loved, but it's not enough.
 Quoting: Master X


Everyone in my family is saying they love me now, after all the damage has already been done and they're nearing the end of lives.

Where was the support when I really needed it?
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07/11/2013 12:22 PM
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Maybe you were a dick of a father.
Elemental  (OP)

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07/11/2013 12:23 PM

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What about the people that go through life threatening to kill themselves? Always dumping their emotional baggage on everyone else. They never do, they are all talk. After a while you realize they are fucking crazy, but not crazy enough to go through with it. Attention and control whores.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41834124


I have no experience of that, so will reserve judgement on that one but thank you for your input and I'm sorry if you've had to experience it.
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
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Stfu, Canada. Don't try to project your silliness on other human beings.

I had everything and yet I have nothing only a decade later. Life becomes unlivable toruture knowing you somehow already peaked in your youth. All down hill from here they say, but I think it's an uphill struggle for the bare minimum, more like Sysiphus and his boulder.

I'm degenerating on every level, where I used to be excelling. I can't reach that level again, let alone transcend it.

Time to go all-in and call it quits, dog... That's what it comes down to for me, but no-one has the balls to say that to my face.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1725135


I'm in the same situation but I never really had everything but things were much better and even then I was thinking of leaving. Now it's even worse so why would anyone stick around to endure the crap?
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OP, I admire your strength and your heart.

I think about suicide also quite a lot. It's not even that I have a shitty life or that nobody cares about me or loves me. I just feel empty inside. Everything good in my life I tend to unconsciously but systematically destroy and there is no bounds to the hate I feel towards myself. Girls, weed, anti-depressants, it all doesn't help or just for a short period of time.

But I can't and won't do this to my mother, so I will keep on going through the motions at least as long as she is with us.
 Quoting: watchout4snakes


You're a strong, loving soul. What do you hate about yourself? You have a loyal heart which is willing to suffer for your mother, a strength of character to be proud of. Life is never easy...better, not bitter...that's my way of coping. How can I help you to see the beauty in life?
 Quoting: Elemental


Thank you so much, just you posting this thread is helping. No need to worry about me, I will soldier on, but it is really good to know there are still people like you around.
 Quoting: watchout4snakes


Please feel free to message me if you ever need to chat; I'm always around during the day and more than happy to listen xx I've added you to my buddy list, hope that's ok :))
 Quoting: Elemental


Of course it is, I just added you as well.

And once again, thank you. It might sound like just a hollow phrase, but your strength and positivity really are inspiring.
"The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater."
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07/11/2013 12:39 PM
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I was just thinking about suicide and this popped up. Thank you.
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


Same here, shit happened this weekend and I was totally depressed... I know it's never the answer but it just seems so easy. One shot under the chin and no worries.
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it doesnt matter at the end we all gonna die.
Elemental  (OP)

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07/11/2013 01:05 PM

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I was just thinking about suicide and this popped up. Thank you.
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


Same here, shit happened this weekend and I was totally depressed... I know it's never the answer but it just seems so easy. One shot under the chin and no worries.
 Quoting: fice


I understand how easy it seems; it's honestly not the answer though...not in my humble opinion anyway. Strength, love and hope to you hf
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
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07/11/2013 01:08 PM

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it doesnt matter at the end we all gonna die.
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True. It's taking the decision to take ones own life that I have the issue with.
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
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Our society has a very unhealthy attitude towards suicide. The Romans and the ancient Samurai got it right. Hell, I can't even bring myself to end my shameful failure of an existence and redeem myself at least to an extent because I'm so far indoctrinated and taken up in this life is precious - hogwash.
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look at it this way..if you are hurting or hurt it is because you are a sensitive soul..if you are sensitive it is because you feel..if you feel it is because you love..if you love you are so so valuable to this world alive..to spread your light to others that don´t have it

If you take your life it will be that bit darker in this world..you are needed...you..you..can make the difference..because you are important in the grand scheme of things

rose
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Our society has a very unhealthy attitude towards suicide. The Romans and the ancient Samurai got it right. Hell, I can't even bring myself to end my shameful failure of an existence and redeem myself at least to an extent because I'm so far indoctrinated and taken up in this life is precious - hogwash.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43189196


Why do you feel that suicide would enable you to find redemption? Can you not redeem yourself by actions and good words to others? I apologise if that sounds trite, it's not meant to.
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
Elemental  (OP)

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look at it this way..if you are hurting or hurt it is because you are a sensitive soul..if you are sensitive it is because you feel..if you feel it is because you love..if you love you are so so valuable to this world alive..to spread your light to others that don´t have it

If you take your life it will be that bit darker in this world..you are needed...you..you..can make the difference..because you are important in the grand scheme of things

rose
 Quoting: wildhoney


Beautiful post.
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
Illegitimi non carborundum
Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus





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