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Suicide is not the answer.

 
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Any signs before the act?? Did she asked for help?

Didn't she knew that she was loved?
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This is so true. However I don't want to sound like a dick but as a person who went through it and didn't off themselves I have no sympathy for the ones that do off themselves for certain reasons. I can understand if your family is shit, your life is shit, no friends, poor, no shelter to call home, etc then maybe it would be justified. But these days kids off themselves because of really stupid shit that all kids before them have had to go through but these ones think theres no way out, and there is a reason for it too, as I will explain later. These kids nowadays off themselves cause of relationships, cyber-bullying(the concept is just so outlandish and fucking crazy i cant understand it), real bullying, etc all of which can be easily stopped and fixed with a little help from the people they love.

I even had the knife held to my wrist but then I had a flash of memories and thoughts rush through my head. Thoughts of how everyone else would suffer while I would be free. I thought that was very selfish and cowardly to put all my problems on them. I started thinking about the stuff I would never get to experience. Places I'd never get to see. People i'd never meet. I started crying and threw the knife across the room so hard it stuck in the wall. I never looked back. All of that was caused by REAL bullying not this fake cyber-bullying crap. If someone is harassing you on the internet, turn it the fuck off. Problem solved. Real bullying you can't just turn off. It hurts ALOT more than cyber-bullying could ever do. This is why I have very little sympathy for these kids that off themselves for this reason. If they did it because of cyber bullying then maybe they should have had a taste of real bullying, then they would realize that its all smoke and mirrors. They are just words. Sure my life may still be shit but I'm still kickin it. I have never thought about doing it ever again. If only every child could think this way.

I guess it depends on the reason for the depression, however nowadays it could be almost anything. Instead of getting to the root of the problem doctors end up drugging them up and causing them to be even more suicidal. Drugs are not the cure for a depression. I don't know the circumstances surrounding the OP's daughters death and i'm not asking the OP to explain but you have to ask yourself, did she give any signs?, did you notice anything off about her before she ended it? was she alone a lot? Did her grades start slipping? There had to have been some sign where she was ending up.

I will extend a hand of sympathy to you though. I am very sorry for your loss. I can only hope that some day we can stop all of these innocent children from doing this to themselves. Sadly though this probably will never happen as there are assholes everywhere whose only purpose is to put others down and make them feel like shit.

tissue verysad
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Stfu, Canada. Don't try to project your silliness on other human beings.

I had everything and yet I have nothing only a decade later. Life becomes unlivable toruture knowing you somehow already peaked in your youth. All down hill from here they say, but I think it's an uphill struggle for the bare minimum, more like Sysiphus and his boulder.

I'm degenerating on every level, where I used to be excelling. I can't reach that level again, let alone transcend it.

Time to go all-in and call it quits, dog... That's what it comes down to for me, but no-one has the balls to say that to my face.
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


What a terrible, terrible disgrace. I'm truly sorry, my best wishes for you hfhugs
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


What a terrible, terrible disgrace. I'm truly sorry, my best wishes for you hfhugs
 Quoting: Inerrancia


Thank you. My aim is to help others to find hope xx
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Stfu, Canada. Don't try to project your silliness on other human beings.

I had everything and yet I have nothing only a decade later. Life becomes unlivable toruture knowing you somehow already peaked in your youth. All down hill from here they say, but I think it's an uphill struggle for the bare minimum, more like Sysiphus and his boulder.

I'm degenerating on every level, where I used to be excelling. I can't reach that level again, let alone transcend it.

Time to go all-in and call it quits, dog... That's what it comes down to for me, but no-one has the balls to say that to my face.
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You'll be fine my lovely, promise :))
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


I'm honestly not and if you're not loved, there's not much purpose to life
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Ele, you are an absolute angel.
But I think you know that already.

My advice for anyone in a bad place, is really just to stay positive.

Always taking the good out of any given situation, and leave behind the bad.

And I swear it works. It takes practise to get into this mindset, but it brought me back from absolute hell.

Another piece of advice, just my opinion, stay away from anti d's.
I found that they just turn you into a zombie (me anyway), you just trudge along through life with very little emotion.
No lows but also no highs.
I think I've changed since taking them and regret it.

But positive thinking is key.
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You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


I'm honestly not and if you're not loved, there's not much purpose to life
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Firstly, love yourself a little. It's the first step. The others feel it when you're fine being yourself.
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Life has many ups and downs...

In my opinion most suicides are knee-jerk reactions and I think thats why Elemental said: Think twice.

Never forget that life changes.

I often hear people saying "Why give up smoking? I don't want to live for long anyway."

Seemingly we sometimes tend to forget that in a year from now we will be completly different persons with a different perspective.
I say this because a year ago I was a completly different person and occurences in my life have dramatically changed my views...

You may be wishing non-existence for the moment BUT it is possible you will want to live more than ever after your life just progressed toward a way that you may have not expected.

Don't give up, because before it gets better it usally gets worse... and that means you might be on the way up.

Also, sometimes we wish just to have an comfortable, easy life... but if you take a look at these people you might notice they often lack one thing:
experience, character.


Your life can be compared to an audio tape:
You can either play music slowly, steadily, monotone,
Or you choose the path of overwhelming emotions to fill that tape with diversity and expertise.

These dark days could turn into a huge lesson that may enrich the rest of your life...

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 07/07/2013 06:27 PM
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Life has many ups and downs...

In my opinion most suicides are knee-jerk reactions and I think thats why Elemental said: Think twice.

Never forget that life changes.

I often hear people saying "Why give up smoking? I don't want to live for long anyway."

Seemingly we sometimes tend to forget that in a year from now we will be completly different persons with a different perspective.
I say this because a year ago I was a completly different person and occurences in my life have dramatically changed my views...

You may be wishing non-existence for the moment BUT it is possible you will want to live more than ever after your life just progressed toward a way that you may have not expected.

Don't give up, because before it gets better it usally gets worse... and that means you might be on the way up.

Also, sometimes we wish just to have an comfortable, easy life... but if you take a look at these people you might notice they often lack one thing:
experience, character.


Your life can be compared to an audio tape:
You can either play music slowly, steadily, monotone,
Or you choose the path of overwhelming emotions to fill that tape with diversity and expertise.

These dark days could turn into a huge lesson that may enrich the rest of your life...
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


You're absolutely right hf
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I needed this, today.
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


Loved more than you know? Pffft.

Most people that think about suicide do not feel loved, in fact its lack of love and real people that actually give a fuck that eventually make it clear that their existence doesn't really matter.
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Ok, let's turn this into positives. We all feel bad sometimes for whatever reason. I'm here for anyone who needs it and always will be xxxx
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You're wonderful. God bless you,
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


I'm honestly not and if you're not loved, there's not much purpose to life
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42301815


This.

The fact is, no one would really miss me if I died. Its just a sad fact of my life. Sure, a family member or two would probably cry, but they'd soon forget, much like real life. I'm here, but forgotten by most in my family.

Threads like these make me laugh. People generally don't give a fuck about each other. Its all about what they can take and how they can fuck you over in life.
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


I'm honestly not and if you're not loved, there's not much purpose to life
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42301815


This.

The fact is, no one would really miss me if I died. Its just a sad fact of my life. Sure, a family member or two would probably cry, but they'd soon forget, much like real life. I'm here, but forgotten by most in my family.

Threads like these make me laugh. People generally don't give a fuck about each other. Its all about what they can take and how they can fuck you over in life.
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It's sad that your perspective is that, after all these years. I wonder if you could "fix" that somehow. Or if you just wish it.
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Holy Fuck!!! I'm so sorry.

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suicide is sometimes the answer.

i mean if you had a mental problem and you killed your mother, father sister, brother dog and cat and then realized you couldn't be stopped - then blew your brains out.

i'm okay with that.
You can get addicted to a certain kind of sadness. Like resignation to the end, always the end.

Just a little happiness and health is all I wanted.
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Having known of a few kids who committed this act growing up I can say it is without a doubt one of the most selfish things a person can do, life is a struggle fight the good fight.

Having said that I cannot say I have never had those same thoughts, but knowing that I'll impact those that love me and I leave behind for the rest of their lives brings my thoughts into perspective.

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Having known of a few kids who committed this act growing up I can say it is without a doubt one of the most selfish things a person can do, life is a struggle fight the good fight.

Having said that I cannot say I have never had those same thoughts, but knowing that I'll impact those that love me and I leave behind for the rest of their lives brings my thoughts into perspective.
 Quoting: Chieftain


hf
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She mustve felt alone, parents fault
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Bad parenting either brings a lifetime of misery or suicidal thoughts/actions.

OP was probably a shitty mother.
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Go shut your mouth!
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suicide is sometimes the answer.

i mean if you had a mental problem and you killed your mother, father sister, brother dog and cat and then realized you couldn't be stopped - then blew your brains out.

i'm okay with that.
 Quoting: tuesday451


Once again... religion tells us suicide is bad... for who really? If it brings the suffering person peace, who should say that is wrong.

Live and let live.

Live and let die.
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She mustve felt alone, parents fault
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Bad parenting either brings a lifetime of misery or suicidal thoughts/actions.

OP was probably a shitty mother.
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Go shut your mouth!
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Truth stings, huh?
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What about the people that go through life threatening to kill themselves? Always dumping their emotional baggage on everyone else. They never do, they are all talk. After a while you realize they are fucking crazy, but not crazy enough to go through with it. Attention and control whores.
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


I'm honestly not and if you're not loved, there's not much purpose to life
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42301815


This.

The fact is, no one would really miss me if I died. Its just a sad fact of my life. Sure, a family member or two would probably cry, but they'd soon forget, much like real life. I'm here, but forgotten by most in my family.

Threads like these make me laugh. People generally don't give a fuck about each other. Its all about what they can take and how they can fuck you over in life.
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My condolences to the OP.

But I also agree with this poster. People like stuff more than caring about other humans.
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Deepest condolences.

However, I wouldn't worry. Suicide has nothing to do with not knowing you're loved or not. I'm sure she knew you loved her much. Sometimes being loved is just NOT enough though. I love plenty and am plenty loved, but it's not enough.

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Deepest condolences.

However, I wouldn't worry. Suicide has nothing to do with not knowing your loved or not. I'm sure she knew you loved her much. Sometimes being loved is just NOT enough.
 Quoting: Master X


Some people feel so, or they think about themselves as not deserving of love. Too much tortured souls...
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Deepest condolences.

However, I wouldn't worry. Suicide has nothing to do with not knowing you're loved or not. I'm sure she knew you loved her much. Sometimes being loved is just NOT enough though. I love plenty and am plenty loved, but it's not enough.
 Quoting: Master X


Thank you; I've had to take time pull myself together! Please believe me when I say that your life is worth more than you could imagine hf
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Nothing is so potent as the silent influence of a good example.
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