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Suicide is not the answer.

 
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My condolences and sympathy OP.

Thread: Some things I have learned from years of fighting depression, dispar, and hopelessness
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I can relate with the suicide bit. I've tried with a gun, a knife, and a hanging. The first two I was able to push on, and the belt broke on the hanging left me with a severely injured ankle and a face that looked like I was in a car wreck. I'm only in my early twenties but feel as if I'm in my eighties. Old, tired, and empty. For over a year I've drowned myself in booze and am a daily pot smoker, which has left me feeling numb but in the worst way I could imagine. Basically, I'm at rock bottom but can't even stand to make the climb back up. All of this has kept me from making friends or finding a significant other. The only ones that would really be devastated are my family. And that's the only reason I'm attempting to hold on. Otherwise I'd be dead by now. I've been trying to find a bright side but its damn hard. Hope others can.
 Quoting: Nirvanafan23


Friend please do not worry about a 'significant other' at this time in your life - you are young. You need to concentrate your energy on healing your wounds. I know from personal experience that seeking external validation is very appealing when you are down on yourself, but it can be superficial in many ways and does not stand the test of time - you have to work on finding internal validation, because that's what lasts.... All of the answers that you seek can be found within you and not outside of you.

P.S. I was a huge Nirvana fan too growing up. I found validation in the music because it reflected my mood. The unplugged album was my medicine. I think it felt therapeutic at times (comforting) but looking back I realize it was not helping at all to elevate my mood. Try to make sure that you expose yourself to some more uplifting tunes - it will help you for sure....
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
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my god i'm so sorry. My thoughts and energy are with you.
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
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my god i'm so sorry. My thoughts and energy are with you.
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


To me suicide is how warriors die. To take your own life is the biggest accomplishment of all. She conquered her fear, she looked death right in the eye and said "Hi, I'm joining you". She's a warrior princess for doing such a thing and I have mad respect for her.

I'm tired of all the whiners in nursing homes and in hospitals waiting to die instead of embracing it and suiciding themselves. If only they didn't have so much fear...
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If someone is truly suffering then why should they live. Just so you aren't sad, what about the person that is suffering.

If you can't help them out of their suffering, don't be sad when they no longer have to suffer.

Would be kind of sadistic keeping any creature alive to continue suffering. (unless it can be helped)
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I'm tired of all the whiners in nursing homes and in hospitals waiting to die instead of embracing it and suiciding themselves. If only they didn't have so much fear...
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You're looking at it backwards friend.... Fear is also what drives a person to take their own life... Fear of a continued existence here... If there was no fear present then they would continue on with their life and not harm themselves. We should feel compassionate for those who had so much fear/sadness that they decided to end their own lives...
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


To me suicide is how warriors die. To take your own life is the biggest accomplishment of all. She conquered her fear, she looked death right in the eye and said "Hi, I'm joining you". She's a warrior princess for doing such a thing and I have mad respect for her.

I'm tired of all the whiners in nursing homes and in hospitals waiting to die instead of embracing it and suiciding themselves. If only they didn't have so much fear...
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Interesting thought provoking point there, one that is possibly worth debating but this isn't the thread for it buddy.

@OP, my condolences to you and your family. As someone who fantasizes about committing suicide regularly and what the aftermath would be like; your post gave me a little boost as to what I already knew, cheers.
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Dog, I think about death everyday.
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there were sad people left behind because there were people who cared. if you are sitting there disabled with no family or friends or anyone who'd even notice you were dead until the smell started to annoy the neighborhood what have you to lose
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I'm tired of all the whiners in nursing homes and in hospitals waiting to die instead of embracing it and suiciding themselves. If only they didn't have so much fear...
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You're looking at it backwards friend.... Fear is also what drives a person to take their own life... Fear of a continued existence here... If there was no fear present then they would continue on with their life and not harm themselves. We should feel compassionate for those who had so much fear/sadness that they decided to end their own lives...
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Not really, self preservation, self love is natural and the strongest instinct. Animals will fight for life no matter what. Suicide is gutsy, few would even have the guts or courage, Im not saying its right, but some get so over the top brave, they dont give a shit on going to the other side.

Death for most is the scariest unknown journey of all and yet some take the leap and go what most of us have been trying all our life to avoid and delay

All the money and dazzle and vain psycho pathic pomp in this world is not enough to lure them to stay.

However best reason to stick around is for loved ones, and that takes a surrender. To think how much loved ones will hurt if youre gone.
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Suicide is gutsy, few would even have the guts or courage, Im not saying its right, but some get so over the top brave, they dont give a shit on going to the other side.
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Look, it's not like a mentally healthy person decides he's so brave and courageous that he wants to prove it by taking his own life. No one thinks like that. There is pain, hurting, despair involved in that act. It's not about feeling 'brave' about the outcome, it's about feeling trapped and like there are no other options left in this 'reality' we are experiencing. When the pain/despair is so great that it overrides the fear of the unknown...

One can wish to label it 'gutsy' or 'courageous' but the context is not one that should be viewed in a positive light or encouraged as if to affirm this behavior in others. For example, have you ever watched the youtube videos of Russian kids walking up the cable wires of enormous suspension bridges? Or tightrope walking the outer edges of highrise buildings and dangling from several hundred feet up in the air by one hand? Someone might view that and label those kids 'gutsy' or 'courageous' for doing those acts. But here is the real context - one little miscue or slip up and those same kids will go falling to their 'death'... And for what cause? Filming a video of a 'daredevil' act for Youtube to impress others or to pump themselves up??? It would be viewed in an entirely different light if that were the outcome. If one of those kids 'died' no one would be remarking about how brave/courageous it was to do that. The risk involved is definitely not worth the short-term reward... This is obviously a different context than the subject matter at hand but it's a clear example of how perceived 'bravery' and 'courage' is not always viewed in a positive light when all factors are considered.

Acts of courage/bravery that should be admired & respected are those that PRESERVE & PROTECT 'life'....
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


To me suicide is how warriors die. To take your own life is the biggest accomplishment of all. She conquered her fear, she looked death right in the eye and said "Hi, I'm joining you". She's a warrior princess for doing such a thing and I have mad respect for her.

I'm tired of all the whiners in nursing homes and in hospitals waiting to die instead of embracing it and suiciding themselves. If only they didn't have so much fear...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47970028


As an elderly person I agree with everything you say. I have said that if the government ever opened euthanasia centers to everyone, if would be a much better world for everyone. They would be astounded by the number that would walk in. Don't know if you are old enough to remember the movie "Soylent Green" but they had them in that. A wonder, peaceful way to end a life. I truly wish we had them in this country.


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I'm tired of all the whiners in nursing homes and in hospitals waiting to die instead of embracing it and suiciding themselves. If only they didn't have so much fear...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47970028


You're looking at it backwards friend.... Fear is also what drives a person to take their own life... Fear of a continued existence here... If there was no fear present then they would continue on with their life and not harm themselves. We should feel compassionate for those who had so much fear/sadness that they decided to end their own lives...
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Not really, self preservation, self love is natural and the strongest instinct. Animals will fight for life no matter what. Suicide is gutsy, few would even have the guts or courage, Im not saying its right, but some get so over the top brave, they dont give a shit on going to the other side.

Death for most is the scariest unknown journey of all and yet some take the leap and go what most of us have been trying all our life to avoid and delay

All the money and dazzle and vain psycho pathic pomp in this world is not enough to lure them to stay.

However best reason to stick around is for loved ones, and that takes a surrender. To think how much loved ones will hurt if youre gone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46700227


Was going to write up the same thing in response to his post(except the last part).

I really dislike how people guilt-trip others to stay here. DO IT FOR YOUR LOVED ONES! DON'T YOU KNOW YOU'RE LOVED!? LOL.

Not everyone kills themselves because they're depressed, hopeless, angry. I get so happy sometimes I want to die and cherish that moment forever because we all known happiness and blissful states only last a short amount of time here until it's down hill and back up again over & over again.

The love you'll experience at death is far greater than any love your family, friends, or even husband/wife/kids could ever give you. It's better than any sexual experience you'll ever have on this planet. Millions of near-death experience reports indicate this as true and I believe them.
Out home is on the other side. It's not here. Our birth mothers & fathers on Earth are not the creators of my soul/spirit which has existed for eternity. They only created the rotting flesh trapping us on this planet.
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
 Quoting: Elemental


To me suicide is how warriors die. To take your own life is the biggest accomplishment of all. She conquered her fear, she looked death right in the eye and said "Hi, I'm joining you". She's a warrior princess for doing such a thing and I have mad respect for her.

I'm tired of all the whiners in nursing homes and in hospitals waiting to die instead of embracing it and suiciding themselves. If only they didn't have so much fear...
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As an elderly person I agree with everything you say. I have said that if the government ever opened euthanasia centers to everyone, if would be a much better world for everyone. They would be astounded by the number that would walk in. Don't know if you are old enough to remember the movie "Soylent Green" but they had them in that. A wonder, peaceful way to end a life. I truly wish we had them in this country.


hf
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Yep, and when they have helped you with the cool transition, they recycle the corpse for Soylent Green (yum!). You can see an actualized versión in "The Cloud's Atlas"...
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Sorry for the loss of your daughter.
This world is an evil place with out compassion more times then not.
Some here can no longer live here in this environment.
It's not about the easy way out.
She, like many others, escape the clutches of this world and move on to another realm.
I have compassion for those who leave us and judge them not but for the grace of God there go I.
She still loves you and always will as you love her.....yodayodayoda
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Suicide is a major sin - do it, and you spend the rest of your lives in Hell. Fact!
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Wrong nit wit!

I was one of those kids who was born with past life memory. But to a Bible tard like you that is no doubt 'the work of the devil'. Not what it really is, a sign of a soul gradually maturing.

I knew I had served, in the First World War, and I also knew I had died on the Somme, though not in the actual battle of that name. The fighting in these named spots,Verdun, Ypres, the Somme was endless. They were the famous WW1 stuck spots. Every now and then there would be a huge offensive that did next to nothing, besides kill a lot of men on the ground on both sides. This went on for the whole 4 years of the Great War.

To get onto the genuine theme of this thread.

I went to the battlefields in the 90's, and realized that I had deliberately, totally intentionally, put myself in the way of allowing myself to be shot by the enemy. I had been a captain and in charge of a number of other people. I was in total despair. I was a German in that life, and knew we were on the losing side. Though no one won that mess. I had regularly considered shooting myself with my own pistol in my own quarters. But could not do that either to my men or to my family. I was not a married man and did not have children. By my family I mean my parents and siblings etc.

I was no coward, I was a hardened and decorated veteran in my past life. I was about 25 and had been in the Great War since the beginning.

I don't care how many Bibletards there are out there. When I went to France and the scene of my past life death. I had always had an idea where it was. I knew that I had deliberately allowed myself to be killed in that life.

I had actually gone to the site thinking my p/l memories were a crock of shite, and trying to put them to rest. The opposite happened.

What I did then was wrong. I had a use and a purpose, as everyone does, in any life at any time, that I by intention chose not to continue with.

I did choose not to let my family think that I shot myself in my dug out. But I know better. I now know what I did.

My current life has been very hard as a consequence. Of my failure to properly complete my past life. It is like failing a grade in school.

In a way it has been a hell, yes. But is it eternal? No.

I don't know what kind of dreadful God these Bibletards believe in. But I believe that He is every loving and ever merciful. And Bibletards learn that reincarnation was a fundamental belief in early Christianity.

OP, your daughter will be OK, but she has set herself back.

You would be wise to have conventional therapy on the event.
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Schizo alert lmfao. Seek help, cuntrag
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Well said, Limey!

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OP, your daughter isn't dead, but is very much alive.
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OP, what was the reason your daughter committed suicide? You never did say, did you? If it's too personal to be shared, that's ok then. Sorry for asking...
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Good pic... hf
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Suicide is choice.
I really dont wont to talk about life and death in this thread considering it can be painfull for someone.
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yes it is .. somehow.

Nowadays its like I am being blamed for wanting to exist.
Like it is wrong of me to want to have a life.

you can't even have a simple quiet life in this world.

Just imagine yourself amongst the billions and billions of people... who all want a life as well... then you realize that not all of us can have a peaceful life.. we are too many.

Imagie yourself amongst the universe.. then one would realize how much he/she does not even count at all.
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Or, you can imagine yourself pursuing your dreams and not worrying about the consequences. I mean, if you are going to end it, why not at least go out giving all you've got? When I was in your position, I decided that before I gave up - I would try to be a Rock and Roll star. I actually made it pretty far considering i started from nothing. I have played in front of thousands of people, just not all at once in a huge stadium. I have signed autographs and made people have a great time and made some awesome music. Somewhere along the way I didn't feel so suicidal anymore. You can never be totally unhappy when you are actively moving forward. If you passively let the world F you in the A, then you are going to have a bad time. Take control and forget about the naysayers and you will be fine.
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I am so sorry to hear about your daughter.

Sending love and healing thoughts.

And for those that don't feel hope right now, you are loved and cared about, you are worthwhile and here for a reason, it truly does get better. You have to keep moving through the dark to get to the light.

Try this, no matter how stupid it sounds to you now, the first thing in the morning and last thing at night think of ten things to be thankful for, no matter how small they seem. You will be surprised after a week or two at the changes.

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What this world has become weighs heavily on us all, OP. Some more than others. And for some it is too much.

I don't know you, and I didn't know your daughter. Thousands of miles separate us, but in the end all of us here are family. And we must stick together.

I don't know the circumstances that lead to your tragedy. But I know that this fucked up world that the powers that be created contributed to it. This is for sure. And that is why we fight. We fight for a world that is safer for our children. One where the walls of society aren't closing in on them. One where they can be free.

We don't have much power here, just the truth. And not even complete truth, just bits and pieces of it. But it's a start. And for now, it's all we can do. Spread information. Awake those who are willing to listen.

Your daughter didn't die for nothing, not if you don't let it be that way. Not if we don't let it be that way. She was a martyr. I don't know if it helps you to think of it that way, but for me your tragedy is a call to action. There are dark powers influencing our youth, and we must bring what they are doing to the light.

Much love, OP!!! Stay strong.

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Romans 8:38-39 that nothing can separate us from God's love:

And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God's love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God's love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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People in Britain are going insane with that crappy society you got going, you better change that into something meaningful or else all your youth will kill themselves and this ain't a fucking game here. get your shit together brits, drop the delusions and get back to reality.
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My darling, beautiful daughter hanged herself, the repercussions are far reaching and deep. Please, think twice, three times, a thousand times before giving up your life and your truth. You are loved more than you know xxxx
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What can I say? How very sad. My heartfelt sympathy...hugs and much love. xo

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My little brother killed himself on New Years Eve 2009. I heard it through the door, he was arguing with his "babies mama." She is a real piece of work, typical mouth breather.

Anyway he shot himself with a 9mm, didn't die right away, my dad had to pull the plug the next morning.

At the time I could not imagine life without him, we were very close. But as they say time heals all wounds.

The good part is now when I run calls on other suicides or suicidal people, I am able to better help them and understand. When the guys go on really bad calls I am able to help in the CTSD.

I am very sorry for your loss.
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