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Immigration Bill:: why is compromise in this country, the land of the free, like a shackle??

 
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Immigration Bill:: why is compromise in this country, the land of the free, like a shackle??
Whether you are a liberal or a conservative, you are likely unhappy about the new immigration bill. Furthermore, both sides would probably agree that E verify is more big brother that will be placed on all of us as part of the bargain.

Here is a good/bad chart drawn up by a liberal group::

[link to presente.org]

Naturally many conservatives are mad about any amnesty, as well as how this may all play out for Obama.

My answer to the question I pose in the title is that this is purposeful.

Immigration has been being debated for a long ass time now. Many of the problems with this issue, particularly with Mexico have been manufactured by our government.

The drug war:: Manufactured, costing billions, not winnable, not humanitarian, benefits corporations and the police state while stigmatizing populations and designs system of further control.

Benefits for Americans draws illegal immigrants:: Manufactured:: Could be way better managed:: this creates the problem in the first place. Its like moving water:: offer free stuff, people will find a way to get it. Now we HAVE to do something about it. And while we are at it lets make sure and corral the rest of America;:: hence E verify.

The new immigration bill is the effect of these schemes.

It is a perfect irony where an inadequate and pustule government deems its citizens and noncitizens unfit to be free. damned
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Re: Immigration Bill:: why is compromise in this country, the land of the free, like a shackle??
Whether you are a liberal or a conservative, you are likely unhappy about the new immigration bill. Furthermore, both sides would probably agree that E verify is more big brother that will be placed on all of us as part of the bargain.

Here is a good/bad chart drawn up by a liberal group::

[link to presente.org]

Naturally many conservatives are mad about any amnesty, as well as how this may all play out for Obama.

My answer to the question I pose in the title is that this is purposeful.

Immigration has been being debated for a long ass time now. Many of the problems with this issue, particularly with Mexico have been manufactured by our government.

The drug war:: Manufactured, costing billions, not winnable, not humanitarian, benefits corporations and the police state while stigmatizing populations and designs system of further control.

Benefits for Americans draws illegal immigrants:: Manufactured:: Could be way better managed:: this creates the problem in the first place. Its like moving water:: offer free stuff, people will find a way to get it. Now we HAVE to do something about it. And while we are at it lets make sure and corral the rest of America;:: hence E verify.

The new immigration bill is the effect of these schemes.

It is a perfect irony where an inadequate and pustule government deems its citizens and noncitizens unfit to be free. damned
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Re: Immigration Bill:: why is compromise in this country, the land of the free, like a shackle??
Crickets.....

I guess everyone already k ows what I am saying is true....

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Re: Immigration Bill:: why is compromise in this country, the land of the free, like a shackle??
It sucks that a compassionate compromise leads to this::

[link to www.the-free-foundation.org]

From massive NSA spying, to IRS targeting of the administration's political opponents, to collection and sharing of our health care information as part of Obamacare, it seems every day we learn of another assault on our privacy. Sadly, this week the Senate took another significant, if little-noticed, step toward creating an authoritarian surveillance state. Buried in the immigration bill is a national identification system called mandatory E-Verify.

The Senate did not spend much time discussing E-Verify, and what little discussion took place was mostly bipartisan praise for its effectiveness as a tool for preventing illegal immigrants from obtaining employment. It is a tragedy that mandatory E-Verify is not receiving more attention, as it will impact nearly every American’s privacy and liberty.

The mandatory E-Verify system requires Americans to carry a “tamper-proof” social security card. Before they can legally begin a job, American citizens will have to show the card to their prospective employer, who will then have to verify their identity and eligibility to hold a job in the US by running the information through the newly-created federal E-Verify database. The database will contain photographs taken from passport files and state driver's licenses. The law gives federal bureaucrats broad discretion in adding other “biometric” identifiers to the database. It also gives the bureaucracy broad authority to determine what features the “tamper proof” card should contain.


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