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(OP) User ID: 42338281 United States 06/28/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AWFEKKIT, were you not living over there in Egypt? What do the people in general think of their new government? Quoting: indiandave Yep. It's been my second home for more than five years. I love it, so know I'm answering your question with that bias. I believe people expected more and they expected better would come of the revolution. They wanted bread. Meaning, they want no more hunger and there is certainly hunger and malnutrition to be found. The price of food has skyrocketed: in 2009 I was buying a kilo of tomatoes for 2.5 LE; when I left in April they cost 7 LE. Salaries are stagnant, partially to the economic disaster as tourism is gone and has not come back, no matter what the government says. Well, that and employers have it in their heads that 400 LE/month "is a good salary." The only upside to bread is that junk/fast food is tremendously expensive (a McDonald's meal is 25 LE and up), so purchasing power goes toward the more nutritious foods, even if it fuul (beans). The government still operates bread bakeries, although wheat prices have caused them to change the recipe and switch corn for wheat. The government also still produces and sells (at next to nothing prices) commodities in grocery stores and government stores, and distributes cheap filler foods (rice, tea, sugar, pasta) to every single household in Egypt. Egyptians have a tremendous sense of pride, so standing in a government hand-out line instead of shopping in the souk (markets) is gut busting. They wanted freedom. It almost goes without saying that Egyptians freedoms have been restricted in almost every area, at at least the same level if not more than when Baba Mu & Crew were in charge. They wanted social justice. Egypt has an unspoken but clearly defined class system and nobody likes it. Well, except the people at the top who make the rules to keep everyone else out. Wanna see an opera? Better have shoes that cover your entire foot. Feel like hanging out at a cafe and smoking some sheesha/hooka? Only if you can afford the minimum charge. Is your husband a driver? Well then, you probably do domestic work, so you can pay the fees the private teachers demand so your child/ren can get an education because the better, private schools are set up to keep people without money ... out. People in general can see what they're getting isn't what they wanted. They want a change. This is People vs. Muslim Brotherhood/hard line Islamists. The beards will be targets. Mark my words. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42019507 Germany 06/28/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AWFEKKIT, were you not living over there in Egypt? What do the people in general think of their new government? Quoting: indiandave Yep. It's been my second home for more than five years. I love it, so know I'm answering your question with that bias. I believe people expected more and they expected better would come of the revolution. They wanted bread. Meaning, they want no more hunger and there is certainly hunger and malnutrition to be found. The price of food has skyrocketed: in 2009 I was buying a kilo of tomatoes for 2.5 LE; when I left in April they cost 7 LE. Salaries are stagnant, partially to the economic disaster as tourism is gone and has not come back, no matter what the government says. Well, that and employers have it in their heads that 400 LE/month "is a good salary." The only upside to bread is that junk/fast food is tremendously expensive (a McDonald's meal is 25 LE and up), so purchasing power goes toward the more nutritious foods, even if it fuul (beans). The government still operates bread bakeries, although wheat prices have caused them to change the recipe and switch corn for wheat. The government also still produces and sells (at next to nothing prices) commodities in grocery stores and government stores, and distributes cheap filler foods (rice, tea, sugar, pasta) to every single household in Egypt. Egyptians have a tremendous sense of pride, so standing in a government hand-out line instead of shopping in the souk (markets) is gut busting. They wanted freedom. It almost goes without saying that Egyptians freedoms have been restricted in almost every area, at at least the same level if not more than when Baba Mu & Crew were in charge. They wanted social justice. Egypt has an unspoken but clearly defined class system and nobody likes it. Well, except the people at the top who make the rules to keep everyone else out. Wanna see an opera? Better have shoes that cover your entire foot. Feel like hanging out at a cafe and smoking some sheesha/hooka? Only if you can afford the minimum charge. Is your husband a driver? Well then, you probably do domestic work, so you can pay the fees the private teachers demand so your child/ren can get an education because the better, private schools are set up to keep people without money ... out. People in general can see what they're getting isn't what they wanted. They want a change. This is People vs. Muslim Brotherhood/hard line Islamists. The beards will be targets. Mark my words. What have the islamists to do with the class system? I bet almost nothing. |
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(OP) User ID: 42338281 United States 06/28/2013 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What have the islamists to do with the class system? I bet almost nothing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42019507 Last Edited by AWFEKKIT on 06/28/2013 12:56 PM |
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ANNONYMOUS User ID: 746829 United States 06/28/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AWFEKKIT, were you not living over there in Egypt? What do the people in general think of their new government? Quoting: indiandave Yep. It's been my second home for more than five years. I love it, so know I'm answering your question with that bias. I believe people expected more and they expected better would come of the revolution. They wanted bread. Meaning, they want no more hunger and there is certainly hunger and malnutrition to be found. The price of food has skyrocketed: in 2009 I was buying a kilo of tomatoes for 2.5 LE; when I left in April they cost 7 LE. Salaries are stagnant, partially to the economic disaster as tourism is gone and has not come back, no matter what the government says. Well, that and employers have it in their heads that 400 LE/month "is a good salary." The only upside to bread is that junk/fast food is tremendously expensive (a McDonald's meal is 25 LE and up), so purchasing power goes toward the more nutritious foods, even if it fuul (beans). The government still operates bread bakeries, although wheat prices have caused them to change the recipe and switch corn for wheat. The government also still produces and sells (at next to nothing prices) commodities in grocery stores and government stores, and distributes cheap filler foods (rice, tea, sugar, pasta) to every single household in Egypt. Egyptians have a tremendous sense of pride, so standing in a government hand-out line instead of shopping in the souk (markets) is gut busting. They wanted freedom. It almost goes without saying that Egyptians freedoms have been restricted in almost every area, at at least the same level if not more than when Baba Mu & Crew were in charge. They wanted social justice. Egypt has an unspoken but clearly defined class system and nobody likes it. Well, except the people at the top who make the rules to keep everyone else out. Wanna see an opera? Better have shoes that cover your entire foot. Feel like hanging out at a cafe and smoking some sheesha/hooka? Only if you can afford the minimum charge. Is your husband a driver? Well then, you probably do domestic work, so you can pay the fees the private teachers demand so your child/ren can get an education because the better, private schools are set up to keep people without money ... out. People in general can see what they're getting isn't what they wanted. They want a change. This is People vs. Muslim Brotherhood/hard line Islamists. The beards will be targets. Mark my words. Yep, I was here when this whole mess broke out. I can't help but laugh now at those (90%) like Snark on this site who did nothing but crow about the Tahrir debacle. It was clear at least to a few of us exactly how it was going to work out since the MB was the only group clearly organized to win an election. It now is begining to appear that this could well have been a case of "giving them enough rope to hang themselves" and they stepped right into it. The problem I have with this whole thing is probably millions h ave sustained some form of disasterous circumstances while the point was being made. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1561325 United States 06/28/2013 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem I have with this whole thing is probably millions h ave sustained some form of disasterous circumstances while the point was being made. Quoting: ANNONYMOUS 746829 Too bad it would be near impossible to find a governing body anywhere in the world that considers collateral damage a problem. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31894440 Australia 06/28/2013 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Too blind to see your strings attached to the antichrist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2056502 Soon you'll knows. Great Prophet and Arch mullah Sheik Barry Soetoro Hussein Obama star spangled banner of the cosmos peace be upon him has his troops on alert in Europe to go help Morsi slaughter unarmed protestors. |
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User ID: 880694 Canada 06/28/2013 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, folks, it's started. Not to be late to the party on 6/30, protests and clashes have begun in Egypt. Quoting: AWFEKKIT Updates here: [link to english.ahram.org.eg] "Tarek Sabry, an accountant at Egypt Bank, believes the Muslim Brotherhood "has no vision or a real plan to develop Egypt..." Egypt needs to do the New Jerusalem plan [link to newjerusalemcalendar.com] Thu Jun 4/12/13 Last Edited by Russell on 06/28/2013 04:40 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41568349 United States 06/28/2013 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 12m DEVELOPING: Out of precaution, Marines on ready to go to Egypt to protect U.S. Embassy, citizens - @barbarastarrcnn [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41568349 United States 06/28/2013 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 22s BREAKING: U.S. warns Americans on travel to Egypt, moves to reduce official presence at Cairo embassy. [link to twitter.com (secure)] |