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Notes from an "alternate universe": Introduction to the New Physical Dreamworld

 
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If installing another os is beyond someone's skills, is deleting all accounts and disconnecting from the internet just as good for changing representations?
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It depends on if it's done to resist or in an embrace of your perspective.

We move on from the experience when we've filled our perspective in its shell.

There is a big difference between, "Yes! That is me. WTF have I been doing? I sucked!" and "That is bad! WTF is that? I don't want it."

The former thinking will render the experience irrelevant, and progress is made with new representations that better-suit our new perspectives.

The latter will just bring more of the same in a repeating pattern that could go on forever (and so it does for some).
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OK, so could I leave the internet with this thought..."Wtf, I screwed myself out of the internet. I've had my head up my a**."

(I called my computer store and they don't recommend changing the os unless you're a tech nerd...which I am not. I could still get on here once in a while by using a computer at the library!)
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lol
yeah , skip college and introduce "a new physical dreamworld"
lol
casue the "alternative " way of thinking is typing in english on a message board
lol
dolt
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Sounds like fun, where do I sine?
 Quoting: Chaol




Chaol used that word like you are here. Are you referring to a sine function? (I always thought it was a typo but now, I'm not so sure!)
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If installing another os is beyond someone's skills, is deleting all accounts and disconnecting from the internet just as good for changing representations?
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Hi U3,
these posts of Chaol make you reconsider being on Facebook, Hotmail, Gmail and so forth... been thinking about disconnecting as well. I am an Apple fan since the early nineties so it's kind of hard to accept the fact that they have gone over to the dark side too... :-( But yesterday I deleted Windows 8 from my laptop and installed Ubuntu instead.

Luckily for me I have some experience with Ubuntu. Installing it is not that hard. What could be somewhat hard is backing up your data from your windows/apple system (don't know what you have obviously). I choose an external 2TB drive where I parked all data from the laptop.
Starting with a clean slate again.

You can always try out Ubuntu first by running it from a bootcd. If you have enough space on your computer you can first install it alongside windows and see if you can get it to work; that way you can still access your data from the Windows installation. There is quite a big Linux community where you can ask questions; most linux people are willing to help if you're a novice.

Here is the installation guide, which doesn't look that daunting:
[link to www.ubuntu.com]
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Thanks for the link. Since you've been using it, have you had much trouble once you installed it? I called my computer store. They said unless you're a tech nerd, they don't recommend it!

Also, what about browsers and search engines? Wouldn't we also need to use something different, too?

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The New Physicality: What Changes Can Be Expected?

What is the timeframe for this dreamworld physicality?

From what I have seen, it would appear that 2015 is a good guess. (This is based on other events and how things are unfolding, as well as details of what I have seen.) 2013 is when the physical world crumbles, followed by a transition period with a surety of dreamworld experiences.

It seems that when this physical reality falls apart people will turn to their "inner" realities. This is an important part of what I have seen, and the crumbling of this physical world is the impetus for the mass transit.

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Thank you for this. I've been wondering about it, too. I have a question re: turning inward (a new perspective).

We spoke with Chaol re: spiritual practices in this thread:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 48)

and he said he would prefer using an Ec string instead. So, why can't we go ahead and create an Ec string for inward turning? Wouldn't that take care of the logic?

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Using the same representations would produce the same results.

Loan sharks are much more accepted than they could be in any civilized society. Any urban area has loads of them. Aren't they financial abortion clinics? Or suicide doctors?

These terms are ridiculous, and that is the point. If a loan shark is disguised as a "check cashing" facility, then that's how the people going to them refer to them. If it's a bank or credit card, then it is simply a bank with "high interest rates" instead of "suicide rates". The former are accepted representations.

If we cringe at referring to something by a ridiculous representation or making ridiculous associations can we say that we think of them as ridiculous?

If it is undesired then it can be associated with representations that are either shocking, unacceptable, or otherwise.

Once the representation is changed then the relationships will change along with them. The only question is what representations to use.

New words can be used for new concepts, or variations of a concept that were not before had.

New phrases can re-present what is already there and has a representation already.
 Quoting: Chaol


I'd say use every representation that you don't usually associate with and usually ignore. I found out there are plenty of those, in my perspective, when I made some meme's today.

It seems you are saying to use new representations that are closer to reality then. Instead of just trying to look at things in a better light....label them for what they actually are.

The thing is, there are different ways to look at the same thing. But I guess the shock value of labeling a loan shark as "financial rapist" has a wake-up value to it?
 Quoting: U3

Well, we can't really know what something actually is.

But yes, the label would be to 'slap' the subconscious. It would be like doing something outside of the routine in order to awaken the mind. Except in this case it would be with language.
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OK...that makes sense. So now, how do we decide what all needs to be re-defined? It seems to me there are lots of things in my perspective that need it. I could probably spend weeks on a project like this.

Or, is using a different os re-defining such a large, relative part of perspective, that not much more is needed to be re-defined?
 Quoting: U3

Nothing needs re-definition, but if your intention is to experience something new in your perspective then I suppose you could determine that

A Windows and Mac alternative is just part of the picture, of course. There's no point in using Ubuntu if Gmail and Adobe are used, for example.

"Now that I know this, what does it mean for me?" Most will not care, as they don't see what it means or how it would affect them. For some it will not mean anything, as it is not in their perspective as much. For others it means a lot, but it does not mean that they will do anything about it.

"Now that I am more aware of the ways in which I am holding onto the physical, what does this mean for me?"

And so you are becoming more aware of this.

It is really re-defining yourself when that is done with your perspective.
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If installing another os is beyond someone's skills, is deleting all accounts and disconnecting from the internet just as good for changing representations?
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It depends on if it's done to resist or in an embrace of your perspective.

We move on from the experience when we've filled our perspective in its shell.

There is a big difference between, "Yes! That is me. WTF have I been doing? I sucked!" and "That is bad! WTF is that? I don't want it."

The former thinking will render the experience irrelevant, and progress is made with new representations that better-suit our new perspectives.

The latter will just bring more of the same in a repeating pattern that could go on forever (and so it does for some).
 Quoting: Chaol

OK, so could I leave the internet with this thought..."Wtf, I screwed myself out of the internet. I've had my head up my a**."

(I called my computer store and they don't recommend changing the os unless you're a tech nerd...which I am not. I could still get on here once in a while by using a computer at the library!)
 Quoting: U3

Heh.. privacy is a bit more complicated than that.

Changing from Windows or Mac, your computer would still leave the same signature. And we can only assume that certain Winsows/Mac files would not be overwritten completely. It would help somewhat, but that is besides the point.

We can become more aware of the ways in which we are holding onto a kind of physicality that is fast becoming irrelevant, or not. Then, to consider what that awareness means to us and how it affects our experience.

Even if you care about being monitored and your personal information illegally handled, it does not mean that other parts of your perspective will 'feel' the same way.

In fact, most people (and things) are likely to resist the changes in perspective that the new physicality requires. And that is the point.

That's why destruction is the universe's best friend.

Most of this is/will be rendered useless.

Drastic changes are in the works, and in process now. Most of the changes outlined here or in our imagination are not useful in themselves but merely a way to get to another place.

New thinking is required. We can use another OS but that would be missing the point. Our brains need a new OS ;)
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lol
yeah , skip college and introduce "a new physical dreamworld"
lol
casue the "alternative " way of thinking is typing in english on a message board
lol
dolt
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Sounds like fun, where do I sine?
 Quoting: Chaol

Chaol used that word like you are here. Are you referring to a sine function? (I always thought it was a typo but now, I'm not so sure!)
 Quoting: U3

It's an homage to my predecessor, and a play on words :)
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If installing another os is beyond someone's skills, is deleting all accounts and disconnecting from the internet just as good for changing representations?
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Hi U3,
these posts of Chaol make you reconsider being on Facebook, Hotmail, Gmail and so forth... been thinking about disconnecting as well. I am an Apple fan since the early nineties so it's kind of hard to accept the fact that they have gone over to the dark side too... :-( But yesterday I deleted Windows 8 from my laptop and installed Ubuntu instead.

Luckily for me I have some experience with Ubuntu. Installing it is not that hard. What could be somewhat hard is backing up your data from your windows/apple system (don't know what you have obviously). I choose an external 2TB drive where I parked all data from the laptop.
Starting with a clean slate again.

You can always try out Ubuntu first by running it from a bootcd. If you have enough space on your computer you can first install it alongside windows and see if you can get it to work; that way you can still access your data from the Windows installation. There is quite a big Linux community where you can ask questions; most linux people are willing to help if you're a novice.

Here is the installation guide, which doesn't look that daunting:
[link to www.ubuntu.com]
 Quoting: tuuuuur

Thanks for the link. Since you've been using it, have you had much trouble once you installed it? I called my computer store. They said unless you're a tech nerd, they don't recommend it!

Also, what about browsers and search engines? Wouldn't we also need to use something different, too?
 Quoting: U3

If I may comment...

If Microsoft, Apple, Google, Yahoo are tracking you (and Yahoo did not want to, but was ordered by a secret court to) then you can assume that all major companies has integrated this tracking and illegal spying.

Here's some good advice from a former spy: [link to www.washingtonpost.com]

But of course it's difficult to do in the normal course of daily life, and frankly most people don't care enough to do even one thing.

(The spy forgot to mention that Adobe scans your computer, turns on your microphone and camera without your permission and sends this content and data to other parties, and lots of other things.)

There'd be nothing wrong with continuing to use whatever you're using now.

The perspective changes are happening regardless of what technologies you use. It is more important to consider how your perspective works, and to see how this is all playing out in your perspective.

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The New Physicality: What Changes Can Be Expected?

What is the timeframe for this dreamworld physicality?

From what I have seen, it would appear that 2015 is a good guess. (This is based on other events and how things are unfolding, as well as details of what I have seen.) 2013 is when the physical world crumbles, followed by a transition period with a surety of dreamworld experiences.

It seems that when this physical reality falls apart people will turn to their "inner" realities. This is an important part of what I have seen, and the crumbling of this physical world is the impetus for the mass transit.

 Quoting: Chaol

Thank you for this. I've been wondering about it, too. I have a question re: turning inward (a new perspective).

We spoke with Chaol re: spiritual practices in this thread:
Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 48)

and he said he would prefer using an Ec string instead. So, why can't we go ahead and create an Ec string for inward turning? Wouldn't that take care of the logic?
 Quoting: U3

Chaol is ec-spert lol

If you want to take a crack at it, feel free. Let me know how it works.

(Yes, it would take care of the logic if you have defined the values that make up the string, and also have made those values useful)
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The powers in the old physicality are doing their best to control the internet.

The internet is our gateway into the new physicality because it creates new relationships with practically everything in our perspective.

More abstract relationships. There are now an endless variety of ways to do anything, and an endless variety of ways that something can be represented because of these networked technologies.

It was only a few years ago that the State and Church wanted to control how the bible was read and interpreted. They did not want people reading for themselves. They wanted to control the relationships.

When the people have greater access to information their ability to form relationships (with everything else) increases.

So by trying to control the internet and the free flow of information your current perspective (the old physicality) is working against the new reality.

By "spying" on information regarding your current physical state is trying to gather, categorize, analyze, report and, thus, manage your relationships to control your access into the new physicality.

This is the narrative of what is happening now.

It is not "the end of the world" but it certainly is the end of this physicality and the introduction of another.

Let's work together to see how we can understand and manage this transition.
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You took what could have been useful information and made it about paranoia of a "controlled internet."

What is going on is WAY deeper than that.
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I will check back in a few months, possibly October if the internet is still inter-netted. (If not, we will find a way to connect.)

There are "interesting" illustrations of the process of the dreamworld transition in play, so I will take care of some things before then.

(Translation: TSHTF, but both F and S are part of your P)

Take care, everyone!
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The powers in the old physicality are doing their best to control the internet.

The internet is our gateway into the new physicality because it creates new relationships with practically everything in our perspective.

More abstract relationships. There are now an endless variety of ways to do anything, and an endless variety of ways that something can be represented because of these networked technologies.

It was only a few years ago that the State and Church wanted to control how the bible was read and interpreted. They did not want people reading for themselves. They wanted to control the relationships.

When the people have greater access to information their ability to form relationships (with everything else) increases.

So by trying to control the internet and the free flow of information your current perspective (the old physicality) is working against the new reality.

By "spying" on information regarding your current physical state is trying to gather, categorize, analyze, report and, thus, manage your relationships to control your access into the new physicality.

This is the narrative of what is happening now.

It is not "the end of the world" but it certainly is the end of this physicality and the introduction of another.

Let's work together to see how we can understand and manage this transition.
 Quoting: Chaol


You took what could have been useful information and made it about paranoia of a "controlled internet."

What is going on is WAY deeper than that.
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I suppose we never talked about that and how important it is. Who knew!

And we can think that the implication is that the information is no longer useful because this thread discusses more practical matters and their deeper meaning?

You're welcome to add to the conversation, of course.

Chaos

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The powers in the old physicality are doing their best to control the internet.

The internet is our gateway into the new physicality because it creates new relationships with practically everything in our perspective.

More abstract relationships. There are now an endless variety of ways to do anything, and an endless variety of ways that something can be represented because of these networked technologies.

It was only a few years ago that the State and Church wanted to control how the bible was read and interpreted. They did not want people reading for themselves. They wanted to control the relationships.

When the people have greater access to information their ability to form relationships (with everything else) increases.

So by trying to control the internet and the free flow of information your current perspective (the old physicality) is working against the new reality.

By "spying" on information regarding your current physical state is trying to gather, categorize, analyze, report and, thus, manage your relationships to control your access into the new physicality.

This is the narrative of what is happening now.

It is not "the end of the world" but it certainly is the end of this physicality and the introduction of another.

Let's work together to see how we can understand and manage this transition.
 Quoting: Chaol


You took what could have been useful information and made it about paranoia of a "controlled internet."

What is going on is WAY deeper than that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1129812

I suppose we never talked about that and how important it is. Who knew!

And we can think that the implication is that the information is no longer useful because this thread discusses more practical matters and their deeper meaning?

You're welcome to add to the conversation, of course.

Chaos
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Please do add to the conversation, AC812.

I understand Neo(Chaol) recommending interacting differently with the parts of our perspective that are crazy. At the same time, accepting they are crazy and being ok with it, is also embracing them.

Additionally, my visions of the future are quite different!
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I will check back in a few months, possibly October if the internet is still inter-netted. (If not, we will find a way to connect.)

There are "interesting" illustrations of the process of the dreamworld transition in play, so I will take care of some things before then.

(Translation: TSHTF, but both F and S are part of your P)

Take care, everyone!
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Good luck Chaol, I appreciate your continued involvement here. Thanks!
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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[snips]

I hope this helps you some :)
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Thank you Chaol, it helped.
I just saw from your last posts that you are leaving until October. :(

I'll look forward to your return, online or otherwise.
hf
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[link to siliconangle.com]

An article on how to secure yourself on the internet:

"There are ways to dodge the government’s watchful eye, but you need to be prepared to purge services from the aforementioned companies out of your system. It’s hard, but it can be done. You won’t have to go offline if that’s what you’re worried about. You just need to replace the allegedly compromised services with something more secured."

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[link to siliconangle.com]

An article on how to secure yourself on the internet:

"There are ways to dodge the government’s watchful eye, but you need to be prepared to purge services from the aforementioned companies out of your system. It’s hard, but it can be done. You won’t have to go offline if that’s what you’re worried about. You just need to replace the allegedly compromised services with something more secured."
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Thank you, U3
I'll keep it for reference and start doing some research. I'll look into the Tor bundle too.

Changing an established email address is quite a headache, but doable. Though, I am wondering... if one keeps emailing from the new address to people who have and keep gmail, it's all recorded anyways...
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A search engine that doesn't track you
DuckDuckGo
[link to duckduckgo.com (secure)]

their privacy policy
[link to donttrack.us]

Even used it last year, then lost the bookmark and went straight back to Google. Silly me. :(

There is an add on for Firefox, so it's automatically added to the search bar.
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[link to siliconangle.com]

An article on how to secure yourself on the internet:

"There are ways to dodge the government’s watchful eye, but you need to be prepared to purge services from the aforementioned companies out of your system. It’s hard, but it can be done. You won’t have to go offline if that’s what you’re worried about. You just need to replace the allegedly compromised services with something more secured."
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Thank you, U3
I'll keep it for reference and start doing some research. I'll look into the Tor bundle too.

Changing an established email address is quite a headache, but doable. Though, I am wondering... if one keeps emailing from the new address to people who have and keep gmail, it's all recorded anyways...
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LOL! I know. I think it's practically impossible not to have some data in the database. Anyway, YW! I will use some of the suggestions in this article, myself.

Neo was saying to use new systems to interact with this part of our perspective differently, too, as a way to embrace it. If we do nothing, we condone it. I see his point.

I'm still trying to figure out what else I need to re-define. GMO foods, internet, loan sharks, banks, big corporations (would these have to be individually identified?), energy (petro, gas, electric), pollution, sports, entertainment, MSM....I mean there is just so much.

Anyway, I still like the idea of discussing them here...or at least privately in emails or something. When I did meme's for a day, it was great to interact with those things that I had set aside and kind of ignored because I don't align with them.
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Love the concept about Ubuntu!

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

It is named after the Southern African philosophy of ubuntu, which can be translated as "humanity towards others" or "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".
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[link to siliconangle.com]

An article on how to secure yourself on the internet:

"There are ways to dodge the government’s watchful eye, but you need to be prepared to purge services from the aforementioned companies out of your system. It’s hard, but it can be done. You won’t have to go offline if that’s what you’re worried about. You just need to replace the allegedly compromised services with something more secured."
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Thank you, U3
I'll keep it for reference and start doing some research. I'll look into the Tor bundle too.

Changing an established email address is quite a headache, but doable. Though, I am wondering... if one keeps emailing from the new address to people who have and keep gmail, it's all recorded anyways...
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LOL! I know. I think it's practically impossible not to have some data in the database. Anyway, YW! I will use some of the suggestions in this article, myself.

Neo was saying to use new systems to interact with this part of our perspective differently, too, as a way to embrace it. If we do nothing, we condone it. I see his point.

I'm still trying to figure out what else I need to re-define. GMO foods, internet, loan sharks, banks, big corporations (would these have to be individually identified?), energy (petro, gas, electric), pollution, sports, entertainment, MSM....I mean there is just so much.

Anyway, I still like the idea of discussing them here...or at least privately in emails or something. When I did meme's for a day, it was great to interact with those things that I had set aside and kind of ignored because I don't align with them.
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Yes, it is impossible to avoid it, because even if you were completely offline, ditched your computer from a cliff, canceled all accounts, and let a truck run over your cell phone... your friends will take pics of you, and videos of birthday parties, Christmas, and whatever, post them on their facebook accounts, and tag you for added bonus.

This happens to me, and against my will. Like the guide of the trekking group takes pics of the tour and posts them online. Can't stop them from doing it.

In addition, even if you don't have an android phone with tracking, but use a simple old model, other people have your number and it is automatically recorded on facebook through their accounts, and the like...

But I guess that the point for now is that we, individually, make the small steps to change our relationships with these practices. Others will follow eventually. Hopefully.

Regarding the GMO foods, to make a small step, you could consider growing a small veggie garden, even in containers or vases, if you can't plant outdoors. So you interact with some good organic food you've grown yourself, besides the fun.

[link to gardening.about.com]

[link to www.vegetable-gardening-online.com]

etc. Search for "Container Vegetable Gardening"
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[link to siliconangle.com]

An article on how to secure yourself on the internet:

"There are ways to dodge the government’s watchful eye, but you need to be prepared to purge services from the aforementioned companies out of your system. It’s hard, but it can be done. You won’t have to go offline if that’s what you’re worried about. You just need to replace the allegedly compromised services with something more secured."
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Thank you, U3
I'll keep it for reference and start doing some research. I'll look into the Tor bundle too.

Changing an established email address is quite a headache, but doable. Though, I am wondering... if one keeps emailing from the new address to people who have and keep gmail, it's all recorded anyways...
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LOL! I know. I think it's practically impossible not to have some data in the database. Anyway, YW! I will use some of the suggestions in this article, myself.

Neo was saying to use new systems to interact with this part of our perspective differently, too, as a way to embrace it. If we do nothing, we condone it. I see his point.

I'm still trying to figure out what else I need to re-define. GMO foods, internet, loan sharks, banks, big corporations (would these have to be individually identified?), energy (petro, gas, electric), pollution, sports, entertainment, MSM....I mean there is just so much.

Anyway, I still like the idea of discussing them here...or at least privately in emails or something. When I did meme's for a day, it was great to interact with those things that I had set aside and kind of ignored because I don't align with them.
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Yes, it is impossible to avoid it, because even if you were completely offline, ditched your computer from a cliff, canceled all accounts, and let a truck run over your cell phone... your friends will take pics of you, and videos of birthday parties, Christmas, and whatever, post them on their facebook accounts, and tag you for added bonus.

This happens to me, and against my will. Like the guide of the trekking group takes pics of the tour and posts them online. Can't stop them from doing it.

In addition, even if you don't have an android phone with tracking, but use a simple old model, other people have your number and it is automatically recorded on facebook through their accounts, and the like...

But I guess that the point for now is that we, individually, make the small steps to change our relationships with these practices. Others will follow eventually. Hopefully.

Regarding the GMO foods, to make a small step, you could consider growing a small veggie garden, even in containers or vases, if you can't plant outdoors. So you interact with some good organic food you've grown yourself, besides the fun.

[link to gardening.about.com]

[link to www.vegetable-gardening-online.com]

etc. Search for "Container Vegetable Gardening"
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Thank you. I have tried and tried to grow vegetables in pots on my patio. I'm just not good at it. Between hail, heat and insects, they just don't produce. One year, I had the most beautiful squash plants you ever saw. They were huge. But not one single squash even though they flowered. I'm afraid I gave up at that point! ;o(

I do grow herbs! ;o)

I would like to move somewhere that I could put in a permaculture forest. But, that might take a while.
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Thank you. I have tried and tried to grow vegetables in pots on my patio. I'm just not good at it. Between hail, heat and insects, they just don't produce. One year, I had the most beautiful squash plants you ever saw. They were huge. But not one single squash even though they flowered. I'm afraid I gave up at that point! ;o(

I do grow herbs! ;o)

I would like to move somewhere that I could put in a permaculture forest. But, that might take a while.
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Yeah, I'd like to do permaculture too, or at least have a plot of land for a huge veggie garden. My production is small for now, in wooden containers, but it's a great satisfaction to see stuff grow.

Growing herbs is a good start!
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I would like to move somewhere that I could put in a permaculture forest. But, that might take a while.
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Yeah, I'd like to do permaculture too,
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Me too! One of my dreams is to create / live in an edible forest. Let's meet up :)
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I was struck yesterday with a vision regarding the disintegration of the old physicality -

2001 - 2013 are the years in which chaol has mentioned that the Western values will become irrelevant and the physics of the dream world will replace them. 2001 the modern West's most recognizable representation, NYC, was hit with the previously unimaginable - symbolizing the beginning of the acceleration of the destruction of the values represented.

Yesterday someone mentioned to me the "bad vibes" in boston in 2013 after seeing news headlines regarding tsarnaev's charges and the patriots player who was denied bail on his murder charges. I was immediately able to recognize that while NYC was the modern representation of Western values, boston seems to represent the embedded historical aspect of these values. If America was the last frontier for the exultation of these values, then boston can be seen as holding the historical grip on them. Nevertheless, the grip is loosened evermore.

As the bridge was built and was crossed, the land on the former side of this bridge crumbles...
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I would like to move somewhere that I could put in a permaculture forest. But, that might take a while.
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Yeah, I'd like to do permaculture too,
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Me too! One of my dreams is to create / live in an edible forest. Let's meet up :)
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Oh my gosh!!! Let's do meet up. In fact, I've been trying to meet up since we ran across each other, lol!

The forest is a much more natural way to grow food so I think it's healthier than cultivated crops. It also takes less maintenance (once it's in) and they have even found some that are 100's of years old.
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I was struck yesterday with a vision regarding the disintegration of the old physicality -

2001 - 2013 are the years in which chaol has mentioned that the Western values will become irrelevant and the physics of the dream world will replace them. 2001 the modern West's most recognizable representation, NYC, was hit with the previously unimaginable - symbolizing the beginning of the acceleration of the destruction of the values represented.

Yesterday someone mentioned to me the "bad vibes" in boston in 2013 after seeing news headlines regarding tsarnaev's charges and the patriots player who was denied bail on his murder charges. I was immediately able to recognize that while NYC was the modern representation of Western values, boston seems to represent the embedded historical aspect of these values. If America was the last frontier for the exultation of these values, then boston can be seen as holding the historical grip on them. Nevertheless, the grip is loosened evermore.

As the bridge was built and was crossed, the land on the former side of this bridge crumbles...
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Wow! Thank you. Spot-on if you ask me!!!!
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New, free VPN out of Japan...

[link to www.vpngate.net]
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A search engine that doesn't track you
DuckDuckGo
[link to duckduckgo.com (secure)]

their privacy policy
[link to donttrack.us]

Even used it last year, then lost the bookmark and went straight back to Google. Silly me. :(

There is an add on for Firefox, so it's automatically added to the search bar.
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Email add-on for Firefox
[link to addons.mozilla.org (secure)]
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Farting is a reality, absolute transitioning to physical and real responses.

Public farting is truly unique in observing and compiling data for drawing conclusions to the study of this incredible human and animal feature.
Just the chemistry and physics nature of it is indeed confounding.

You have various public farting ventures, each with their own unique nature. Examples:
Elevator farts
Supermarket isle farts
Hot tub farts
Restaurant farts
On stage farts
On video farts
Toilet farts
Gas station pump farts
Post office farts
The lingering fart
Pull my finger fart
Shart farts
Squeaky and thundering farts
Old people farts
Baby farts
Dog farts
Farts that make you laugh
Farts that hurt
Farts that can't wait
Farts that we're held and climbed back up the chute only to delete itself
Farts that wreak so bad as it is passed over the top of a brewing sewer pickle waiting to be submerged
Farts from your boss
Farting on your boss
Farts that clear a room or even a bus seat
Your first classroom fart
Celebrity farts
Minority farts
Vaginal farts
Or my favorite.... Farts that fail !

Look, farting is just plain fun, especially in public.
Farting gets a bad wrap, or you get farts from a wrap gone bad
By changing our farts, we change our reality and when we manage the fart we then hold the key to our farting destiny.

We experience the fart via our perspective.
When a fart is represented by another, it is still just merely a fart
but that fart can effect our experience and change our reality.

Flatulence, it's such a gas ! Pass it on....



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