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CIgarette smoking POLL and questions : I will explain inside

 
Hitndahedfred
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CIgarette smoking POLL and questions : I will explain inside
Folks,,,,
I really just had an epiphany.

One so big,,, and so immense in scale to me that I MUST ask the GLP community to participate.

There is a very high percentage here of people who SEE THROUGH the lies,or have "awakened", are "resistant" to the constant bombardment of our senses from TV, NEW music on the radio.
Who don't get vaccinations or flu shots. Who really try not to drink "city" water. And of course smoke "cigarettes".

Now please try to follow this specific thought train ok? And as in all things, there are going to be deviates but I am just trying to see the coorelation between certain things that they are trying to deem "unhealthy". The coorelation I am seeing is this.

WHY does the government keep trying to get those who smoke to quit? We all know these motherfuckers could give a shit about us. They would rather we all be dead. You know it and I know it. So WHY is the question? Why don't they show drunk drivers accidents on TV, the real gory ones. Hell, damn near ALL the BUT they have no issue about putting some "cancer" victem on the idiot box telling us that it is "bad". Bad for who? Me? Seriously folks,, do you see what I see?

They as we know, could really care less about ANY of us, BUT they are worried about our health now CMON,,,give me a fucking break. This was the time that it hit me. It is quite possible that there IS SOMETHING ,,one of the many , MANY compounds in TOBACCO that is actually "GOOD" for us?

In general I THINK I amm seeing a correlation between the things that "enlighten" us oe "AWAKEN" us and that "thing" then becomes or is "bad" for us. What if, a "rehab" is just what it implies. You ger "rehabbed or FIXED" to better "fit in" with society.

Man,,, my mind is reeling while writing, I wish I could type faster. But do you SEE what I am trying to convey?

PLEASE,,no bullshit here. I am looking for , yes I hate to, but have to use the word to say it. INFORMATION from you.
There, I said it. This is just for here, any and all answers given, statements made here to this are just that. Parts of a thread on a forum , somewhere out there. I can't be any more honest or blunt. Those that know me here this.

SO,,,
DO you smoke?
DID you smoke?

Have you ALWAYS been "awake"?
Or
Have you just recently "awakened"?

I am not a "true", paid member ot this would be in "poll" format.
Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy]



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Even though it doesn't seem like it...and at times I admit I feel likemthere is no good left...there are good people. They are out there and good things do happen. Maybe the stop smoking campaign is one of them.
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06/23/2013 10:23 AM
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News flash- the government DOES NOT want you to stop smoking, they want you as a CAPTIVE TAX BASE to extort for revenue by virtue of your addiction.
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Clinic touts smoking as cancer cure. Don't kill the messenger.

[link to news.discovery.com]

Medical uses of tobacco in history.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]
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06/23/2013 10:30 AM

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If you seriously consider life then one must discover an underlying reason for the majority of things we do.

I've been smoking since I was 17, I'm almost 60 now. I do know that at times I have wanted to quit and have stopped for as long as 6 months, but always return. The fact of the matter is that I've always tried to moderate. A very few times I hit the pack a day, but not for long. The majority of time it has been about a pack a week.

My wife of 25 years has never seen me with a cigarette in my mouth. I promised her when we met I would never smoke around her and I never have.

I've gotten the impression as you that there is an motive other than health with the campaign to get people to stop, although if an individual doesn't moderate this activity it is easy for me to see it will in no uncertain terms hasten ones demise.

I think a major factor is the cost to take care of people who won't take care of themselves. Certainly you realize that too much of anything is not good for the human body.

I remember many years ago seeing a post from GLP captured in a google search....... It was just a snippet where the poster stated that smoking prevented something specific from being absorbed by the lungs, as if to imply that was a good thing. I then went to GLP did a search and found the thread, but that comment had been scrubbed from the text.

Who knows, I just follow desires with as much moderation as is possible. My fate awaits, whatever that may be, and I accept it.
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06/23/2013 10:32 AM
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Smoke...always been AWAKE...
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If you seriously consider life then one must discover an underlying reason for the majority of things we do.

I've been smoking since I was 17, I'm almost 60 now. I do know that at times I have wanted to quit and have stopped for as long as 6 months, but always return. The fact of the matter is that I've always tried to moderate. A very few times I hit the pack a day, but not for long. The majority of time it has been about a pack a week.

My wife of 25 years has never seen me with a cigarette in my mouth. I promised her when we met I would never smoke around her and I never have.

I've gotten the impression as you that there is an motive other than health with the campaign to get people to stop, although if an individual doesn't moderate this activity it is easy for me to see it will in no uncertain terms hasten ones demise.

I think a major factor is the cost to take care of people who won't take care of themselves. Certainly you realize that too much of anything is not good for the human body.

I remember many years ago seeing a post from GLP captured in a google search....... It was just a snippet where the poster stated that smoking prevented something specific from being absorbed by the lungs, as if to imply that was a good thing. I then went to GLP did a search and found the thread, but that comment had been scrubbed from the text.

Who knows, I just follow desires with as much moderation as is possible. My fate awaits, whatever that may be, and I accept it.
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Nice...sounds like my story.
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If you seriously consider life then one must discover an underlying reason for the majority of things we do.

I've been smoking since I was 17, I'm almost 60 now. I do know that at times I have wanted to quit and have stopped for as long as 6 months, but always return. The fact of the matter is that I've always tried to moderate. A very few times I hit the pack a day, but not for long. The majority of time it has been about a pack a week.

My wife of 25 years has never seen me with a cigarette in my mouth. I promised her when we met I would never smoke around her and I never have.

I've gotten the impression as you that there is an motive other than health with the campaign to get people to stop, although if an individual doesn't moderate this activity it is easy for me to see it will in no uncertain terms hasten ones demise.

I think a major factor is the cost to take care of people who won't take care of themselves. Certainly you realize that too much of anything is not good for the human body.

I remember many years ago seeing a post from GLP captured in a google search....... It was just a snippet where the poster stated that smoking prevented something specific from being absorbed by the lungs, as if to imply that was a good thing. I then went to GLP did a search and found the thread, but that comment had been scrubbed from the text.

Who knows, I just follow desires with as much moderation as is possible. My fate awaits, whatever that may be, and I accept it.
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Nice...sounds like my story.
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Make that three. hf
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06/23/2013 10:42 AM
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WHO's own study showed second hand smoke actually decreases the cancer rates in those exposed to it.

Radio active particles don't adhere well to lung walls that are in a state of constant cleansing. Big tobacco is taking the blame for auto emissions and atomic testing and bombs.
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06/23/2013 10:43 AM
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Good post OP. I tend to agree with you. Didn't the Native Americans use tobacco for enlightenment? Not sure about that, but there is something very fishy about "their" great concern for our tobacco use.

I smoked for many years (and loved it), but quit nearly ten years ago. I now "vape", which means I'm getting my nicotine fix without the smoke.

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News flash- the government DOES NOT want you to stop smoking, they want you as a CAPTIVE TAX BASE to extort for revenue by virtue of your addiction.
 Quoting: Spam Killer

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Yes,, I agree. And you are totally correct in that statement.

Did you know that the highest held percentages of health industry holds MAJOR SHARES in the tobacco industry.

Excellent reply,, but that is a whole other thread, the financial aspect.
Each time a person stands for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he or she sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. And crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance. Few are willing to embrace the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential vital quality for those who seek to change a world that yields most painfully to change. [Robert F. Kennedy]



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News flash- the government DOES NOT want you to stop smoking, they want you as a CAPTIVE TAX BASE to extort for revenue by virtue of your addiction.
 Quoting: Spam Killer

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Yes,, I agree. And you are totally correct in that statement.

Did you know that the highest held percentages of health industry holds MAJOR SHARES in the tobacco industry.


Excellent reply,, but that is a whole other thread, the financial aspect.
 Quoting: Hitndahedfred


Now it is in Organ Donors.

More money in organs than in pharma, illegal d rugs, and will pass oil one day soon. Big huge black market with big huge investors.

Is why they are finding more corpseless/eyeball less heads than dead smokers.
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One thing to be aware of if you smoke, it depletes the vit C in the body which leads to hardening of the arteries, so take extra vit C and you should have no heart problems due to smoking. Vit c is essential for healthy arteries, lack of vit c cause weakening which in turn cause plaque to build up to strengthen the arterial walls close to the heart to keep them from collapsing with each heart contraction.
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Kampf gegen das Rassengift - Struggle against racial poison

The fascists laid great emphasis on the fact that Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin smoked, while Hitler, Mussolini and Franco were Non smoking. Hitler led the rise of the Anti-smoking campaign to National Socialism, by pointing out that he had given up smoking: In 1919 he had his cigarettes thrown into the Danube and never touched one again.

The perspective of the Nazis on smoking was primarily that of dependency on something foreign, instead of the body being completely devoted to their leader.


Die Faschisten legten großen Wert auf die Tatsache, dass Churchill, Roosevelt und Stalin rauchten, während Hitler, Mussolini und Franco Nichtraucher waren. Hitler selbst führte den Aufstieg des Nationalsozialismus darauf zurück, dass er das Rauchen aufgegeben hatte: Im Jahr 1919 hatte er seine Zigaretten in die Donau geworfen und nie wieder eine angerührt.

Rauchen war in der Perspektive der Nationalsozialisten vor allem eine Abhängigkeit von etwas Fremden, während der Körper doch dem Führer gehören sollte.


[link to www.sueddeutsche.de]

Either the Nazis were really concerned about public health, or they used the anti-smoking campaign as a massive instrument of control over the people as an excuse to restrict freedoms. We note that smoking was a symbol of freedom, according to Edward Bernays, from 1920. Because the Nazis have not done anything good, according to history, it was probably be done by them to restriction of liberty, not to improve health.

[link to alles-schallundrauch.blogspot.de]


The health of the people has never really interested in the powerful.

Otherwise they would not even fully radiate us with radioactivity from nuclear power plants( & 2053 nuclear bomb tests-see video*), allow genetically modified foods, pumped full of harmful vaccines, X-rays shine through us and bombard them with electromagnetic waves. An elite that speaks of overpopulation and advocated a reduction of humanity, is certainly not interested to fighting cancer.



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smoked since i was 8 years old progressively got worse until i was smoking more than everyone around me in my teens
by the time i hit 14 i had already coughed up black shit from smoking filter-less roll your own brands too much
smoking continued for a couple years until enlightenment came even then it took a good 4 to 8 months to quit and i needed spiritual help to back it up.

I always felt like i was smoking death , my lungs became very degenerate
i couldnt run well or exert my self too much without feeling very horrible
again this was in my teens.

my opinion is that the rehab programs like you stated and the nicotine pills patches , new forms of smoking are just another corner of a market they control.

but as for any positive effects i would have to day virtually none due to the fact that it is a vice that contibutes to the detriment of your health.

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