Single Women, Strategic Consent Means More Bonding And Less Abortions...

Men are responsible for 100% of abortions by not having preventative vasectomies. They're reversible, cheap, a relative painless procedure, and can be done over a weekend.

You can slut shame and guilt ride women all you want, but in the end it's the males sperm that trespasses into a woman's body.

It still amazes me that men who have NO problem shooting a trespasser on their property think it's perfectly fine to impregnate a woman, shame her for it, refuse to help, and then blame her when she wants nothing to do with the child.

I'm not defending abortion. Just want to make it clear that MEN are the reason for it's existence.

Are you saying that men have this awesome manipulating power to control the thinking of women at their well?

Be more selfish with you own power. Why are you afraid to use more of your own power?

Consensual sex means both agree to do it, stop trying to play the duality game and take equal responsibility.

YOu will not admit that women must be the consent giver in order to continue any further meeting of the minds. Just say it and get it over with...lol.

I have admitted that women have the power, so why don't you take a giant leap for womankind and take your power back.

I must admit, this is the wildest thread I have seen in a bit.

A man is telling a women to keep her legs closed, the idea being strategic consent to keep out of wedlock children and abortions from being so prevalent.

I think you may be missing a HUGE part of the problem.

Having children is a strategic thing for women, by having out of wedlock babies the women is guaranteed money for life. The state pays her, and the unlucky sperm donor is held to the fire for it. The women has no reason to stay with one man anymore, she is guaranteed half of his income and can continue to do as she wishes.

Feminism has won, and women have anything they like. They are in complete control of the situation. If they choose to abort so they can continue riding the cock carousal a little longer. She will.

There is no reason for her not to, there is no reason to stay with one man, there are ample rewards for divorcing and having many children from as many fathers as she can handle. ( I.E more money )

Feminist society cannot punish women in any way, and in fact rewards them for their Hypergamous nature.

Men really have nothing they can do about it. Men don't have equal rights when it comes to the children, and they have no right to terminate pregnancy, and in the same breath have no choice to force the women to carry the baby.


Really what you would prefer is an anti abortion law I am guessing. But that restricts freedom. And if you are going to force a women to have children via the law, then you should have to pay her expenses to raise it.
You after all took away her freedom to choose.

Do you agree to that?

Last Edited by Sivaro on 06/17/2013 11:52 PM

I will say again, a woman choice is hers, not mine.

You are thinking like a man...

I am not a woman so i don't know what you're referring to, maybe you're speaking in general to other women; and I'd say yes, take the power back, but remember with power comes responsibility and if you can't bear that responsibility you will breed chaos that will ultimately engulf you as well.

Guilty.

And you?

You say your a man, but do not think like one? Perhaps you do but think very deeply over it all, and consider your post sexless logic.

They are. You miss out on a magic feeling though.( Lust, Love, Desire and attraction). Human emotions that are wondrous and equally ruinous. Sex is highly emotional, it is not a science lab.

That would be the logical progression in some of your argument. Simply spade and neuter humans, and go with test tube genetic babies. Perhaps that is going to happen anyway eventually.

Society will dissolve soon enough. It cannot hold like this for long.

The matriarchal system needs to reaffirm itself back into our culture, and boys growing into manhood would be more self confident-wouldn't you agree?

The above mention are why we are in our current state.

As a man. I will say this.

NO THANKS.

Men had the power and responsibility. Women fought to overthrow it.

They have succeeded.

What makes you think men want it back? It is quite nice have sex without having to marry , or to support.

It is downright stupid for a man to get married and give up half his assets and his freedom so cupcake can dump him whenever she feels the tingles for another man or just gets bored.

Women have made their bed, they need to learn some self control, or they need to get used to responsibility.

Women cant control themselves. With all the harm they have done to men with their new found freedom. I say females, keep your power, and us men will enjoy less responsibility ourselves for awhile.

Same old song and dance; men have many rights, it's only the shallow men who feels that they are lost and have no rights.

I think women need to take their responsibility in the part that was assigned to them in the whole mechanism of civilization. Women have constantly rebelled and destroyed entire civilizations and their heinous disregard for their tribes for the sake of satisfying their own narcissistic and selfish desires have unleashed millennial condemnation against them which I deeply regret having happened but women need to take responsibility. When they do they will regain their ancient position as the heart of their people and the most precious and protected gem. If they don't they will be oppressed, raped and humiliated once more as the miserable cycles of darkness continue and the worst of all, some seem to desire that kind of fate.

yeah....and men....keep your dicks in your pants...how about?

Hell no.

What are you saying??????

You want all that responsibility back? why?

It is a new era, men, instead of being beast of burdens and walking ATM machines are instead embarking on a journey of self discovery.

Self confident men can be alone, strong, happy, adventuress and enjoy freedom like never before. Why would you want to force men back onto the plantation?

Marriage, Kids, responsibility. BLEH.......

Have fun, discover yourself, be free, Men have never in history had such a moment as this. Give them their chance in the sun. They have had the heavy weight on their shoulders for too long.

Let the women run things for awhile. I will go fishing, hiking, sailing and have dalliances with many women.

I DONT WANT the society you are pushing anymore. Been there, done that.

Society will readjust, men will forget about marriage and support and BS like that. Women can do it now. Men need generations to build a new society based on their own worth as individuals, that will no longer be centered around, the wife, kids, job and white picket houses.

It is a glorious future for men.

Last Edited by Sivaro on 06/18/2013 12:15 AM

I am not sure what HIStory books you have been reading, but they are not accurate.
Matriarchal/matirlineal societies have been documented to continue for many generations. The first nations here in North America succeeded for centuries and only failed with a targetted effort of mass cultural extinction.Mycenae and Crete were also successful civilizations. Judaism is still going strong as well.

Are you suggesting that based on historical accounts, men were not able to discern their judgments in regards to the female sexual hegemony?

As a woman, I don't want that kind of society either. I am very happy without kids and having lots of freedom.
We need to build a society where everyone is honoured and valued. How we do this is teach people to love honour and value themselves, on a fundamental level, not superficially.

Civilizations tend to have cycles, you can't only look at their highest peak in regards to your own biases and take that as the norm.

Saying this isn't going to get you laid. Idiot.

Not at all, I am just saying that it's all cause and effect, you weren't merely poor victims of oppression, women did something to deserve what they got, something utterly so bad that it echoes through the halls of time. Before that, women were in a position of leadership in the societies of the ancient tribes of mankind. They lost that privilege because just as now they disregarded their responsibilities in exchange for petty selfish desires. There must be some order and structure to society if you want to enjoy the fruits of freedom and security, if you spurn these societal foundations because childish rebelliousness you will lose it all and be even worse off.

I would first start with teaching the younger generation about the pitfalls of modern marriage.

I would teach my sons to be independent, never marry, never get into a contract in which any State, Or Church has jurisdiction over.

I would teach them that life is about the journey, and meeting people, and growing, and finding self worth, is the most important thing you can do.

I would teach them, that societies pressures to get married, have 2.2 kids and 3 cars is NOT THE recipe for happiness that the schools, media and government want you to believe.

THAT is a proven recipe for misery. Happiness is finding something you love to do, things you enjoy, and the myriad of souls that you will meet walking the same path, through not always forever.

Its a new way of thinking, Men need to become more than beast of burdens, wage slaves, and die broken and unfulfilled.

Men can be so much more. Women too.

Last Edited by Sivaro on 06/18/2013 12:29 AM

I wasn't. Judaism is still going strong. The first nations are slowly rebuilding. At least they are in Canada. And the women have been at the forefront in terms of standing up for their rights.
What you wrote was biased and made sweeping generalizations. Cannot you not see that?
What women destroyed what civilizations, single-handedly?
What selfish and narcissistic desires? Who had them?
What you wrote comes off as a crazy hate speech, not an intelligent argument.
If you thought out your position more clearly and backed it up with examples, then it would be easier to take seriously.

I am only recommending that women apply more strategic consent, before they open the gates to the reed fields.

Sounds great. It would be a good plan of action for both boys/girls, men/women.
I believe spiritual seeking will become much more popular. We are evolving out of our animalistic natures, with a blind need to reproduce.
Any children that are born, will be loved and wanted by both parents.

You got to go to work tomorrow, get some sleep fellow...