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Nanna-Ree
(OP) User ID: 41161605  United Kingdom06/05/2013 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lunch time Quoting: Nanna-Ree this is how they started out... [link to s1318.photobucket.com] ..23 mins later as they are fanning out... [link to s1318.photobucket.com] ..then 15 mins after that.. [link to s1318.photobucket.com] OMFG! CLOUDS!!!  make your minds up...are they clouds or contrails as far as you people are concerned??? Last Edited by Nanna-Ree on 06/05/2013 05:17 PM "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair… |
| SnakeAirlines
User ID: 39401699  United States06/05/2013 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | make your minds up...are they clouds or contrails as far as you people are concerned??? Quoting: Nanna-Ree So you are saying that you are unaware that contrails are man-made clouds? Well then... That explains a lot...  "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States06/05/2013 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36419852 Anyone reading this thread today should be checking out the bizarre sky out there. The mid atlantic has been blitzed by chemtrails. They are randomly flying in all kinds of crazy directions. It's getting worse. It looks insane. And you are on to something Nanna-Ree.  thanks...i do not tend to get drawn into the arguments that the contrail only believers try to start...at the end of the day i believe what i believe...they believe what they believe ....and its not my place to try and stop them i was a non believer not that long ago until something was said that made me question my beliefs...so i will keep posting, as who knows...maybe something myself or anyother believer says may make some1 else question what they have always been told..... I'm glad you'll keep posting. The non believers do get tiresome. It's not like they have to be here.......just sayin'. And to think...my father worked on every part of the airplane for a living. Used to love the airport and flying. Still do, it's not the airplanes fault, ha-ha Thanks for the thread. yes, we do have to be here (when we aren't banned!). The truth needs to be represented and defended against you stupid paranoid liars. LOL |
| Nanna-Ree
(OP) User ID: 41161605 United Kingdom06/05/2013 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | make your minds up...are they clouds or contrails as far as you people are concerned??? Quoting: Nanna-Ree So you are saying that you are unaware that contrails are man-made clouds? Well then... That explains a lot... [link to www.fourwinds10.net] It is sometimes difficult to separate out fact from fiction and beliefs. It is even more difficult when United States citizens live under a government which classifies as “secret” more and more information with each passing day. In addition, many government agencies, scientists, and researchers decide that certain information should not be given to the public because they know that the public would say “NO,” to many of their experiments or actions. Thus, unraveling exactly why jet contrails began to abnormally persist and turn into white haze and man-made clouds, since the late 1980s, has been difficult… "contrails are man-made clouds" ...yes, and many of us call them chemtrails "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair… |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36525844 United States06/05/2013 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | make your minds up...are they clouds or contrails as far as you people are concerned??? Quoting: Nanna-Ree So you are saying that you are unaware that contrails are man-made clouds? Well then... That explains a lot... [link to www.fourwinds10.net] It is sometimes difficult to separate out fact from fiction and beliefs. It is even more difficult when United States citizens live under a government which classifies as “secret” more and more information with each passing day. In addition, many government agencies, scientists, and researchers decide that certain information should not be given to the public because they know that the public would say “NO,” to many of their experiments or actions. Thus, unraveling exactly why jet contrails began to abnormally persist and turn into white haze and man-made clouds, since the late 1980s, has been difficult… "contrails are man-made clouds" ...yes, and many of us call them chemtrails they already have a name...so you stupidly call them chemtrails. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1509012 United States06/05/2013 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | make your minds up...are they clouds or contrails as far as you people are concerned??? Quoting: Nanna-Ree So you are saying that you are unaware that contrails are man-made clouds? Well then... That explains a lot... [link to www.fourwinds10.net] It is sometimes difficult to separate out fact from fiction and beliefs. It is even more difficult when United States citizens live under a government which classifies as “secret” more and more information with each passing day. In addition, many government agencies, scientists, and researchers decide that certain information should not be given to the public because they know that the public would say “NO,” to many of their experiments or actions. Thus, unraveling exactly why jet contrails began to abnormally persist and turn into white haze and man-made clouds, since the late 1980s, has been difficult… "contrails are man-made clouds" ...yes, and many of us call them chemtrails also, what an ignorant link. contrails have always persisted in the right conditions. around 6 decades before the late 80s. I love how you people accept ignorant bullshit from ignorant sources as truth...just because it mirrors your own ignorant beliefs. you are stupid. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1509012 United States06/05/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | make your minds up...are they clouds or contrails as far as you people are concerned??? Quoting: Nanna-Ree So you are saying that you are unaware that contrails are man-made clouds? Well then... That explains a lot... [link to www.fourwinds10.net] It is sometimes difficult to separate out fact from fiction and beliefs. It is even more difficult when United States citizens live under a government which classifies as “secret” more and more information with each passing day. In addition, many government agencies, scientists, and researchers decide that certain information should not be given to the public because they know that the public would say “NO,” to many of their experiments or actions. Thus, unraveling exactly why jet contrails began to abnormally persist and turn into white haze and man-made clouds, since the late 1980s, has been difficult… "contrails are man-made clouds" ...yes, and many of us call them chemtrails also, what an ignorant link. contrails have always persisted in the right conditions. around 6 decades before the late 80s. I love how you people accept ignorant bullshit from ignorant sources as truth...just because it mirrors your own ignorant beliefs. you are stupid. by the way...that ignorant twat is an environmental scientist. NOT an atmospheric scientist. she us out of her element. and out of her mind. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States06/06/2013 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: SnakeAirlines So you are saying that you are unaware that contrails are man-made clouds? Well then... That explains a lot... [link to www.fourwinds10.net] It is sometimes difficult to separate out fact from fiction and beliefs. It is even more difficult when United States citizens live under a government which classifies as “secret” more and more information with each passing day. In addition, many government agencies, scientists, and researchers decide that certain information should not be given to the public because they know that the public would say “NO,” to many of their experiments or actions. Thus, unraveling exactly why jet contrails began to abnormally persist and turn into white haze and man-made clouds, since the late 1980s, has been difficult… "contrails are man-made clouds" ...yes, and many of us call them chemtrails also, what an ignorant link. contrails have always persisted in the right conditions. around 6 decades before the late 80s. I love how you people accept ignorant bullshit from ignorant sources as truth...just because it mirrors your own ignorant beliefs. you are stupid. by the way...that ignorant twat is an environmental scientist. NOT an atmospheric scientist. she us out of her element. and out of her mind. The same has been said of you  |
| outdoorgyal
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States06/06/2013 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Manhattan-Rochester Coalition, research on the health effects of radioactive materials, and tests on vulnerable populations without consent in St. Louis, 1945--1970 Quoting: InfiniteSpiral [link to gradworks.umi.com] Which has what exactly to do with planes flying at 30,000+ in the air? To point out such experiments are not unprecedented. The military can and has experimented on us, and likely continues to do so. The US Code use to allow such experiments and was repealed in 1997 . . . OLD CODE: PUBLIC LAW 95-79 [P.L. 95-79] TITLE 50, CHAPTER 32, SECTION 1520 "CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM" "The use of human subjects will be allowed for the testing of chemical and biological agents by the U.S. Department of Defense, accounting to Congressional committees with respect to the experiments and studies." "The Secretary of Defense [may] conduct tests and experiments involving the use of chemical and biological [warfare] agents on civilian populations [within the United States]." -SOURCE- Public Law 95-79, Title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 91, page 334, you will find Public Law 95-79. Public Law 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1882. In U.S. Statutes-at-Large, Vol. 96, page 1882, you will find Public Law 97-375. Section 1520. Repealed. Pub. L. 105-85, Div. A, Title X, Sec. 1078(G), Nov. 18, 1997, 111 Stat. 1916, And Pub. L. 105-277, Div. I, Title Vi, Sec. 601, Oct. 21, 1998, 112 Stat. 2681-886 . . . [link to codes.lp.findlaw.com] NEW CODE as of 01/05/2009 TITLE 50 - WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE CHAPTER 32 - CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM -HEAD- Sec. 1520a. Restrictions on use of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents -STATUTE- (a) Prohibited activities The Secretary of Defense may not conduct (directly or by contract) - (1) any test or experiment involving the use of a chemical agent or biological agent on a civilian population; or (2) any other testing of a chemical agent or biological agent on human subjects. (b) Exceptions Subject to subsections (c), (d), and (e) of this section, the prohibition in subsection (a) of this section does not apply to a test or experiment carried out for any of the following purposes: (1) Any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity. (2) Any purpose that is directly related to protection against toxic chemicals or biological weapons and agents. (3) Any law enforcement purpose, including any purpose related to riot control. (c) Informed consent required The Secretary of Defense may conduct a test or experiment described in subsection (b) of this section only if informed consent to the testing was obtained from each human subject in advance of the testing on that subject. (d) Prior notice to Congress Not later than 30 days after the date of final approval within the Department of Defense of plans for any experiment or study to be conducted by the Department of Defense (whether directly or under contract) involving the use of human subjects for the testing of a chemical agent or a biological agent, the Secretary of Defense shall submit to the Committee on Armed Services of the Senate and the Committee on Armed Services of the House of Representatives a report setting forth a full accounting of those plans, and the experiment or study may then be conducted only after the end of the 30-day period beginning on the date such report is received by those committees. (e) "Biological agent" defined In this section, the term "biological agent" means any micro- organism (including bacteria, viruses, fungi, rickettsiac, or protozoa), pathogen, or infectious substance, and any naturally occurring, bioengineered, or synthesized component of any such micro-organism, pathogen, or infectious substance, whatever its origin or method of production, that is capable of causing - (1) death, disease, or other biological malfunction in a human, an animal, a plant, or another living organism; (2) deterioration of food, water, equipment, supplies, or materials of any kind; or (3) deleterious alteration of the environment. [link to uscode.house.gov] George, I would like to believe they would be honoring this Title 50, but don't have much faith in it. Just see too much daily activity in the sky these days. More so than ever. Even if the spraying is to fight global warming.....it's possible the aerosols could be harmful and do more damage in the long run. That's my concern. With all that I'm seeing and reading about.......it's not looking good. Thank you for your post. I always read them and respect what you have to offer. |
| Nanna-Ree
(OP) User ID: 41278975 United Kingdom06/07/2013 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | always the way.... "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair… |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States06/07/2013 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States06/07/2013 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nanna-Ree [link to www.fourwinds10.net] It is sometimes difficult to separate out fact from fiction and beliefs. It is even more difficult when United States citizens live under a government which classifies as “secret” more and more information with each passing day. In addition, many government agencies, scientists, and researchers decide that certain information should not be given to the public because they know that the public would say “NO,” to many of their experiments or actions. Thus, unraveling exactly why jet contrails began to abnormally persist and turn into white haze and man-made clouds, since the late 1980s, has been difficult… "contrails are man-made clouds" ...yes, and many of us call them chemtrails also, what an ignorant link. contrails have always persisted in the right conditions. around 6 decades before the late 80s. I love how you people accept ignorant bullshit from ignorant sources as truth...just because it mirrors your own ignorant beliefs. you are stupid. by the way...that ignorant twat is an environmental scientist. NOT an atmospheric scientist. she us out of her element. and out of her mind. The same has been said of you Yeah, by chemtards...they don't count. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States06/07/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41076883 At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank. I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills. I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles. People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking. Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH. I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed. Seeing a lot of bizarre activity in the sky 4 years now and it's gotten to be more often and heavier. And the trails are not normal persistent contrails. The planes are flying too low for that. Even with 20/20 vision.....the persistent contrails would not be that visible, anyway. The sky looks like kindergarten artwork. Plumes going up, going down, criss crossing, stopping and starting trails. Just blatant. Then they turn to rainbow colors. A sky full of chemical trails is what I see.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States06/07/2013 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too ODG, I actually contacted several gooberment agencies when they disrupted my sunshine during my days off. Pissed me off to no end. I was told to research cough cough "chem"no I meant "con"trails, no joke. They followed up with a letter saying they were looking into the problem. Whatever that means. Really? so they told you to research contrails and then said they would look into it. Kind of not giving you a real answer. on a side note: this board is weird with the banning, the no picture posting stuff lol |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States06/07/2013 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Imagine that...as the approaching front moved in it pushed the colder air up and ahead of itself to allow for the proper conditions for persistent contrails. big deal... Actually, That's not right. it's the pressure change which leads to the added humidity. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States06/07/2013 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41076883 At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank. I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills. I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles. People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking. Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH. I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed. Seeing a lot of bizarre activity in the sky 4 years now and it's gotten to be more often and heavier. And the trails are not normal persistent contrails. The planes are flying too low for that. Even with 20/20 vision.....the persistent contrails would not be that visible, anyway. The sky looks like kindergarten artwork. Plumes going up, going down, criss crossing, stopping and starting trails. Just blatant. Then they turn to rainbow colors. A sky full of chemical trails is what I see. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States06/07/2013 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41076883 At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank. I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills. I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles. People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking. Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH. I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed. Seeing a lot of bizarre activity in the sky 4 years now and it's gotten to be more often and heavier. And the trails are not normal persistent contrails. The planes are flying too low for that. Even with 20/20 vision.....the persistent contrails would not be that visible, anyway. The sky looks like kindergarten artwork. Plumes going up, going down, criss crossing, stopping and starting trails. Just blatant. Then they turn to rainbow colors. A sky full of chemical trails is what I see. Yeah, just ignore the atmosphere full of chemicals from commercial, industrial and everyday human activity right down here at breathing level to focus on trails of frozen water vapor 6 miles up. The fact that you people are trying to get others to ignore the REAL threats to our health makes you people disgusting. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36419852 United States06/07/2013 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41076883 At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank. I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills. I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles. People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking. Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH. I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed. Seeing a lot of bizarre activity in the sky 4 years now and it's gotten to be more often and heavier. And the trails are not normal persistent contrails. The planes are flying too low for that. Even with 20/20 vision.....the persistent contrails would not be that visible, anyway. The sky looks like kindergarten artwork. Plumes going up, going down, criss crossing, stopping and starting trails. Just blatant. Then they turn to rainbow colors. A sky full of chemical trails is what I see. Yeah, just ignore the atmosphere full of chemicals from commercial, industrial and everyday human activity right down here at breathing level to focus on trails of frozen water vapor 6 miles up. The fact that you people are trying to get others to ignore the REAL threats to our health makes you people disgusting.  Show us some proof to the contrary. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211465 United States06/07/2013 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36419852 Seeing a lot of bizarre activity in the sky 4 years now and it's gotten to be more often and heavier. And the trails are not normal persistent contrails. The planes are flying too low for that. Even with 20/20 vision.....the persistent contrails would not be that visible, anyway. The sky looks like kindergarten artwork. Plumes going up, going down, criss crossing, stopping and starting trails. Just blatant. Then they turn to rainbow colors. A sky full of chemical trails is what I see. Yeah, just ignore the atmosphere full of chemicals from commercial, industrial and everyday human activity right down here at breathing level to focus on trails of frozen water vapor 6 miles up. The fact that you people are trying to get others to ignore the REAL threats to our health makes you people disgusting. Show us some proof to the contrary.NO, you show me proof that the trails are more of a threat than the billions of sources of pollution down at ground level which have been known about forever. You people are making the claim that the trails are this huge problem. Now prove it!! So far, you have FAILED to show they are anything but contrails...man made clouds with combustion gases. The burden of proof is on YOU losers to back up your claims and you haven't even come close! all you do is post links about "programs" and then ASS-ume the trails are related to the programs while failing to link the two things with anything more than paranoid speculation. |
| Nanna-Ree
(OP) User ID: 34477018 United Kingdom06/08/2013 06:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41076883 At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank. I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills. I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles. People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking. Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH. I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed. Seeing a lot of bizarre activity in the sky 4 years now and it's gotten to be more often and heavier. And the trails are not normal persistent contrails. The planes are flying too low for that. Even with 20/20 vision.....the persistent contrails would not be that visible, anyway. The sky looks like kindergarten artwork. Plumes going up, going down, criss crossing, stopping and starting trails. Just blatant. Then they turn to rainbow colors. A sky full of chemical trails is what I see. "It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair… |
| aphares
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