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SnakeAirlines

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LOL its us that's laughing at you with the repeating of the same stupid lines that contrails persistant or not are what is causing our skies to look this way

yup i opened someones eyes a little bigger to thinking outside the box

*patsselfonback* :p
 Quoting: outdoorgyal


Willful ignorance is nothing to brag about, Sparky...

chuckle
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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i find it so very hard to understand how so many people can believe in God, angels, ufos etc (each to their own) with no proof to back it up ...yet are not open to the ideas and theories that others have.....just because its different to their own

proof you say...
yes you can prove contrails
but you can NOT prove that every last one is a contrail....all myself and many others are saying is that we do not believe that they are only contrails...and that some of them are something else

prove it you say
well how pray tell should we do that if like many of us believe it is something the gov is doing in SECRET

Adjective
Not known or seen or not meant to be known or seen by others: "a secret plan".

Noun
Something that is kept or meant to be kept unknown or unseen by others: "a state secret".

Synonyms

adjective. hidden - occult - privy - private - clandestine
noun. mystery - secrecy - arcanum - confidence

just because we cant prove them doesnt mean they dont exist

(abit like god or aliens)
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



I don't believe in any if those things.

the onus isn't on me to prove all the trails are contrails, the onus is in you to prove a single one isnt

it's not up to me to determine how you will prove your claim. that's your problem.

you can claim it's a "secret" all you want...but that just adds to the evidence that the whole chemtrails thing is paranoid nonsense created by anti_government whiners.


you don't need to prove they exist, you just need to prove a single trail labeled as a chemtrail isn't just a contrail. so far, that has never happened.
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LOL its us that's laughing at you with the repeating of the same stupid lines that contrails persistant or not are what is causing our skies to look this way

yup i opened someones eyes a little bigger to thinking outside the box

*patsselfonback* :p
 Quoting: outdoorgyal


thats right, its not about brain washing people to believe as we do...its about getting people to -

think for themselves
&
think outside the box .....
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair…
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i find it so very hard to understand how so many people can believe in God, angels, ufos etc (each to their own) with no proof to back it up ...yet are not open to the ideas and theories that others have.....just because its different to their own

proof you say...
yes you can prove contrails
but you can NOT prove that every last one is a contrail....all myself and many others are saying is that we do not believe that they are only contrails...and that some of them are something else

prove it you say
well how pray tell should we do that if like many of us believe it is something the gov is doing in SECRET

Adjective
Not known or seen or not meant to be known or seen by others: "a secret plan".

Noun
Something that is kept or meant to be kept unknown or unseen by others: "a state secret".

Synonyms

adjective. hidden - occult - privy - private - clandestine
noun. mystery - secrecy - arcanum - confidence

just because we cant prove them doesnt mean they dont exist

(abit like god or aliens)
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



I don't believe in any if those things.

the onus isn't on me to prove all the trails are contrails, the onus is in you to prove a single one isnt

it's not up to me to determine how you will prove your claim. that's your problem.

you can claim it's a "secret" all you want...but that just adds to the evidence that the whole chemtrails thing is paranoid nonsense created by anti_government whiners.


you don't need to prove they exist, you just need to prove a single trail labeled as a chemtrail isn't just a contrail. so far, that has never happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11307622


works both ways....prove to me that your contrail is just a contrail....how do you kow thats all it is other than that is what you believe it is
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair…
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LOL its us that's laughing at you with the repeating of the same stupid lines that contrails persistant or not are what is causing our skies to look this way

yup i opened someones eyes a little bigger to thinking outside the box

*patsselfonback* :p
 Quoting: outdoorgyal


thats right, its not about brain washing people to believe as we do...its about getting people to -

think for themselves
&
think outside the box .....
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



you want others to share your disinterest in reality?

understood.
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LOL its us that's laughing at you with the repeating of the same stupid lines that contrails persistant or not are what is causing our skies to look this way

yup i opened someones eyes a little bigger to thinking outside the box

*patsselfonback* :p
 Quoting: outdoorgyal


thats right, its not about brain washing people to believe as we do...its about getting people to -

think for themselves
&
think outside the box .....
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



you want others to share your disinterest in reality?

understood.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11307622


well if the reality you speak of can only be your reality...its over rated
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair…
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Info to everyone: Make a test of your Blood,let test for barium and alluminium!!!!!!!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41103211


laugh
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Hey Snake, dance long time no see. How's the chemtrail watching on the lake this summer.
 Quoting: vtcw 24948640


Hello VT . . . nice to see you . . .

:roses:
 Quoting: George B


Hi George B, nice to see you too...smile_kiss blwkss
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I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect.

At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank.

I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills.

I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles.

People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking.

Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH.

I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41076883


Thank you for your observation! Even the circlejerk of shill/trolls have no reasonable argument for this guys statement.

clappa

And thank you OP for continuing the discussion with great logic!

The burden of proof is on the contards, (nice label BTW!), not the other way around.
Their only argument is "don't believe your lying eyes"....
:eyes:

My wife thought the whole idea was off too... until she started paying attention and observing for herself.
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they have been sparying realy heavy for the last few days now....even when i was quite afew clouds yesterday you could see them in the gaps.....

i still havent decided what i think it is they are sparying...whether is something to protect us from the sun etc...something to make us ill/test on us..... but the more i look up at the sky the more im convinced its something other than just contrails

i know that some of you will think im off my meds...but there are just as many people that agree with me....
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


I watch the chemtrails over the hospital I work at everyday. They've been spraying way more over the last 2 weeks

bump
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Hey Snake, dance long time no see. How's the chemtrail watching on the lake this summer.
 Quoting: vtcw 24948640


You know that there's no such thing...

Besides...With all the friggin rain, it has been a bugger to see contrails at all...

Friend of mine took 2nd in the Rotary derby this past weekend...

Fooker is a fish magnet...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Oh no Snake Airlines, chemtrails have been plentiful. I've seen them often.
What rain, ha ha...At least the lake didn't get over the Bay Road this time.
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i find it so very hard to understand how so many people can believe in God, angels, ufos etc (each to their own) with no proof to back it up ...yet are not open to the ideas and theories that others have.....just because its different to their own

proof you say...
yes you can prove contrails
but you can NOT prove that every last one is a contrail....all myself and many others are saying is that we do not believe that they are only contrails...and that some of them are something else

prove it you say
well how pray tell should we do that if like many of us believe it is something the gov is doing in SECRET

Adjective
Not known or seen or not meant to be known or seen by others: "a secret plan".

Noun
Something that is kept or meant to be kept unknown or unseen by others: "a state secret".

Synonyms

adjective. hidden - occult - privy - private - clandestine
noun. mystery - secrecy - arcanum - confidence

just because we cant prove them doesnt mean they dont exist

(abit like god or aliens)
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



I don't believe in any if those things.

the onus isn't on me to prove all the trails are contrails, the onus is in you to prove a single one isnt

it's not up to me to determine how you will prove your claim. that's your problem.

you can claim it's a "secret" all you want...but that just adds to the evidence that the whole chemtrails thing is paranoid nonsense created by anti_government whiners.


you don't need to prove they exist, you just need to prove a single trail labeled as a chemtrail isn't just a contrail. so far, that has never happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11307622


works both ways....prove to me that your contrail is just a contrail....how do you kow thats all it is other than that is what you believe it is
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree




actually, it doesn't work both ways.

for 100 years the trails have been known as one thing and now a group of people who failed to notice them or learn about them us making a claim that they are something else. the I us is on you people. sorry that you can't understand that.

I understand contrails. I took the time to learn about them with an open mind. I understand the science. I understand condensation and the effects of temperature on air saturation. it's obvious that you people don't.

I have no choice but to know they are contrails.
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laugh
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Hey Snake, dance long time no see. How's the chemtrail watching on the lake this summer.
 Quoting: vtcw 24948640


Hello VT . . . nice to see you . . .

roses
 Quoting: George B


Hi George B, nice to see you too...smile_kiss blwkss
 Quoting: vtcw 24948640


Still thinking about Texas?
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i find it so very hard to understand how so many people can believe in God, angels, ufos etc (each to their own) with no proof to back it up ...yet are not open to the ideas and theories that others have.....just because its different to their own

proof you say...
yes you can prove contrails
but you can NOT prove that every last one is a contrail....all myself and many others are saying is that we do not believe that they are only contrails...and that some of them are something else

prove it you say
well how pray tell should we do that if like many of us believe it is something the gov is doing in SECRET

Adjective
Not known or seen or not meant to be known or seen by others: "a secret plan".

Noun
Something that is kept or meant to be kept unknown or unseen by others: "a state secret".

Synonyms

adjective. hidden - occult - privy - private - clandestine
noun. mystery - secrecy - arcanum - confidence

just because we cant prove them doesnt mean they dont exist

(abit like god or aliens)
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



I don't believe in any if those things.

the onus isn't on me to prove all the trails are contrails, the onus is in you to prove a single one isnt

it's not up to me to determine how you will prove your claim. that's your problem.

you can claim it's a "secret" all you want...but that just adds to the evidence that the whole chemtrails thing is paranoid nonsense created by anti_government whiners.


you don't need to prove they exist, you just need to prove a single trail labeled as a chemtrail isn't just a contrail. so far, that has never happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11307622


works both ways....prove to me that your contrail is just a contrail....how do you kow thats all it is other than that is what you believe it is
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree




actually, it doesn't work both ways.

for 100 years the trails have been known as one thing and now a group of people who failed to notice them or learn about them us making a claim that they are something else. the I us is on you people. sorry that you can't understand that.

I understand contrails. I took the time to learn about them with an open mind. I understand the science. I understand condensation and the effects of temperature on air saturation. it's obvious that you people don't.

I have no choice but to know they are contrails.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11307622


sorry, that should read " the onus is on you people".
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think for themselves
&
think outside the box .....
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree


No matter how uneducated, and/or ignorant it makes them look...

pick

cruise
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Hey Snake, dance long time no see. How's the chemtrail watching on the lake this summer.
 Quoting: vtcw 24948640


Hello VT . . . nice to see you . . .

:roses:
 Quoting: George B


Hi George B, nice to see you too...smile_kiss blwkss
 Quoting: vtcw 24948640


Still thinking about Texas?
dasbier
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Are you still married? hiding2
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I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect.

At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank.

I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills.

I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles.

People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking.

Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH.

I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41076883


Thank you for your observation! Even the circlejerk of shill/trolls have no reasonable argument for this guys statement.

clappa

And thank you OP for continuing the discussion with great logic!

The burden of proof is on the contards, (nice label BTW!), not the other way around.
Their only argument is "don't believe your lying eyes"....
:eyes:

My wife thought the whole idea was off too... until she started paying attention and observing for herself.
 Quoting: GFX guy


I agree 100%! The only people with trouble facing reality are the ones who think that there is no way chemtrails could actually exist. I guess it's just so hard for them to conceive that toxic substances, for whatever purpose, could actually be intentionally sprayed into the air.

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i find it so very hard to understand how so many people can believe in God, angels, ufos etc (each to their own) with no proof to back it up ...yet are not open to the ideas and theories that others have.....just because its different to their own

proof you say...
yes you can prove contrails
but you can NOT prove that every last one is a contrail....all myself and many others are saying is that we do not believe that they are only contrails...and that some of them are something else

prove it you say
well how pray tell should we do that if like many of us believe it is something the gov is doing in SECRET

Adjective
Not known or seen or not meant to be known or seen by others: "a secret plan".

Noun
Something that is kept or meant to be kept unknown or unseen by others: "a state secret".

Synonyms

adjective. hidden - occult - privy - private - clandestine
noun. mystery - secrecy - arcanum - confidence

just because we cant prove them doesnt mean they dont exist

(abit like god or aliens)
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree



I don't believe in any if those things.

the onus isn't on me to prove all the trails are contrails, the onus is in you to prove a single one isnt

it's not up to me to determine how you will prove your claim. that's your problem.

you can claim it's a "secret" all you want...but that just adds to the evidence that the whole chemtrails thing is paranoid nonsense created by anti_government whiners.


you don't need to prove they exist, you just need to prove a single trail labeled as a chemtrail isn't just a contrail. so far, that has never happened.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11307622


works both ways....prove to me that your contrail is just a contrail....how do you kow thats all it is other than that is what you believe it is
 Quoting: Nanna-Ree




actually, it doesn't work both ways.

for 100 years the trails have been known as one thing and now a group of people who failed to notice them or learn about them us making a claim that they are something else. the I us is on you people. sorry that you can't understand that.

I understand contrails. I took the time to learn about them with an open mind. I understand the science. I understand condensation and the effects of temperature on air saturation. it's obvious that you people don't.

I have no choice but to know they are contrails.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11307622


oh you are a funny parrot...you can keep repeating yourself as often as you like ...it wont make those of us with an open mind change what we think
i too have an understanding of contrails...i never said that they dont exist......i just believe that not all is as it seems...and not every line in the sky is a contrail...
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What rain, ha ha...At least the lake didn't get over the Bay Road this time.
 Quoting: vtcw 24948640


Not yet!

Have you seen the short and long range forecasts?

My freakin' garden has a river running through it, and my sump hole never has water in it this time or year, but is does this year...

No one needs to worry about the aquifer recharging this year!
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect.

At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank.

I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills.

I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles.

People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking.

Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH.

I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41076883


Thank you for your observation! Even the circlejerk of shill/trolls have no reasonable argument for this guys statement.

clappa

And thank you OP for continuing the discussion with great logic!

The burden of proof is on the contards, (nice label BTW!), not the other way around.
Their only argument is "don't believe your lying eyes"....
:eyes:

My wife thought the whole idea was off too... until she started paying attention and observing for herself.
 Quoting: GFX guy


I agree 100%! The only people with trouble facing reality are the ones who think that there is no way chemtrails could actually exist. I guess it's just so hard for them to conceive that toxic substances, for whatever purpose, could actually be intentionally sprayed into the air.
 Quoting: InfiniteSpiral


agreed
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To those that believe all trails are contrails, explain what is happening in this video please:

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The only people with trouble facing reality are the ones who think that there is no way chemtrails could actually exist.
 Quoting: InfiniteSpiral


I have never said that "there is no way chemtrails could actually exist"...

I have said that I need more proof than you saying "I know what I see"...

Follow the difference, there?

I kinda doubt it...

yawn
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I have personally witnessed a jet in Florida, at low altitude (approx 5k feet) coming in off the ocean at about 3:30 AM turning its chemicals on and off. I could hear the spray turning on and off. It was that low. Sky was clear and it was a full moon. Visibility was perfect.

At that altitude, especially over tropical south Florida, there is no such thing as a contrail. Especially one that turned off and on 3 times as it emptied some type of tank.

I work in the maritime industry as a licensed deck officer. I get paid very good money for, among other things, my visual perception and judgement of speeds,distances, and climatological variances. I also have a minor in meterology. I get tested by the Fed yearly to meet certain qualifications regarding these skills.

I also live near an approach for the West Palm airport. I have watched jets regularly make their approaches for years. From my loacation, I have never seen a jet this low. Not one time. This jet was not dumping fuel. There was about a 25 knot wind aloft and whatever they sprayed turned into a cloud stream. Aviation fuel would have dropped to the ground, not turned into a white cloud that drifted downwind for miles.

People can shill all they want. I know exactly what I saw. PLUS, I had an aviation tracker on my phone at the time. This particular tracker operates about 3 to 5 minutes delayed. I suppose for security reasons. I tapped the icon on my iPhone and waited for it. Meanwhile I could still see the jet heading inland. I looked for the signature for about 20 minutes and it never showed. I could see all the other jets coming and going from WPB and Miami. This one was immune to tracking.

Since there is no such thing as a coincidence, I can only presume that this was certainly NOT a commercial flight. On top of that I clearly witnessed this full size jet obviously spraying some type of aerosol into the sky from nozzles on each wing. These were NOT emissions from a jet turbine engine. Also, the jet was only doing about 200 MPH.

I for one do not need to speculate on chemtrails. I have enough knowledge and life experience to know exactly what it was that I witnessed.
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Thank you for your observation! Even the circlejerk of shill/trolls have no reasonable argument for this guys statement.

clappa

And thank you OP for continuing the discussion with great logic!

The burden of proof is on the contards, (nice label BTW!), not the other way around.
Their only argument is "don't believe your lying eyes"....
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My wife thought the whole idea was off too... until she started paying attention and observing for herself.
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so, you are actually suggesting that the chemtards have no obligation to prove the trails are full of aluminum and barium as they claim? it's just to be believed because chemtards say so?

that is just plain stupid.

good thing for the world that chemtards are within the known lunatic fringe of society..and that's where they will stay. forever
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To those that believe all trails are contrails, explain what is happening in this video please:


 Quoting: InfiniteSpiral


What do you not understand?
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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The only people with trouble facing reality are the ones who think that there is no way chemtrails could actually exist.
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I have never said that "there is no way chemtrails could actually exist"...

I have said that I need more proof than you saying "I know what I see"...

Follow the difference, there?

I kinda doubt it...

yawn
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these people are obviously too stupid to understand that distinction
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The only people with trouble facing reality are the ones who think that there is no way chemtrails could actually exist.
 Quoting: InfiniteSpiral


I have never said that "there is no way chemtrails could actually exist"...

I have said that I need more proof than you saying "I know what I see"...

Follow the difference, there?

I kinda doubt it...

yawn
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these people are obviously too stupid to understand that distinction
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That's why I seldom try to educate them any longer...

It's much simpler to just smile and nod...

chuckle
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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What rain, ha ha...At least the lake didn't get over the Bay Road this time.
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Not yet!

Have you seen the short and long range forecasts?

My freakin' garden has a river running through it, and my sump hole never has water in it this time or year, but is does this year...

No one needs to worry about the aquifer recharging this year!
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My Realtor told me that many of her clients homes basements got flooded.

I've been looking long and hard for a house without wet basement and foundation problems. Just recently I became not so afraid of Sump Pumps...scared I usually expect to see minnows down those sump holes!

What would a snake plant in his garden?
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What would a snake plant in his garden?
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I have no idea...

I only play one on the interwebs...

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"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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To those that believe all trails are contrails, explain what is happening in this video please:


 Quoting: InfiniteSpiral


What do you not understand?
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Okay, how is it that one jet is leaving behind a normal contrail that dissipates almost immediately after it is left, and the trail that was left earlier is instead slowly spreading out into a cloud/haze? I've witnessed this myself many times, most recently today as a matter of fact. Today it's a hot sunny day with a blue sky, except there is a faint, but certainly visible white haze to the sky. It is especially evident in areas next to non-dissipating contrails, or chemtrails that some jets leave, while others leave contrails that quickly dissipate and leave no haze.
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The only people with trouble facing reality are the ones who think that there is no way chemtrails could actually exist.
 Quoting: InfiniteSpiral


I have never said that "there is no way chemtrails could actually exist"...

I have said that I need more proof than you saying "I know what I see"...

Follow the difference, there?

I kinda doubt it...

yawn
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these people are obviously too stupid to understand that distinction
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Well I can't speak for others, but I'm not saying to just trust me because "I know what I see", I'm saying to look at the evidence others have presented that there is something other than normal contrails being produced by certain jets and planes.
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Hello VT . . . nice to see you . . .

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Hi George B, nice to see you too...smile_kiss blwkss
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Still thinking about Texas?
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Are you still married? hiding2
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Yes . . . 34 years this July!! . . . ohno
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