Aussie Nanny state from hell, Immunise your kids into a vegitable state and who cares

What about the children who don't get immunised and die from disease?

Childcare causes autism and cancer, so why would people want to send their children to childcare?????/

It's so stupid
If you still get sick when immunised, what's the bloody point

You can catch the flu from animals, is the gov going to vaccinate every dog, cat and pigeon as well?

What's going to happen when the vaccine scientists fuck up one day and end up sterilising everyone with their vaccines?

Because it's mandatory, 100% of the public will be affected.
They don't know what they're doing

Fucking lies .... You can opt out by signing a form along with your doctor.

op, do you have tattoos?....net ya do

What happens when you're no longer allowed a choice?

That seems to be where we're heading in the near future

Ok excellent point.

I have always made the distinction between essential immunization for things like MMR, whooping cough and the like, they are essential.

But that is where I stop.

Vaccinations annually for something like the flu which has credible research that shows that annual flu shots do nothing better than bi- annual flu shots would be the first point that Id pick up.

The simple truth is that the formulas for a simple flu shot are so complex and involve several substances that over time will accumulate in the body and eventually cause serious harm and long term bad effects that simply cant be justified.

The truth is that Big Pharma buys its influence in all open societies, simply for their bottom line.

With careful investigation those who do care will find that a shot isnt a shot, there are very big differances.

Some really are good and esential, thats a given, but Big Pharma needs bigger profits, so they bribe governments into believing that annual doses of quite dangerous and cumulative poisions are also a desired concept and our stupid polliticians who cant see past their last financial dose wont want to listen, they have no motivation on that side of the argument.

This is where the real truth lies.

So, do not believe me, but do your own "Due Dilligence" into the topic and Ill see you back here some time in the future.

In the mean time make sure that you take good care of ourselves.

cheers

arkay

Nope

I was a nurse, though.

Last Edited by arkay on 05/28/2013 05:31 AM

The uninformed will be heading down that road.
All this immunization crap will die down soon when someone goes on tv to explain the other side of how immunization dosnt work. Big pharma don't want people knowing the other side of the debate.

I have precisely NO time for any politician who will give a sales rep from Big Pharma an hour of their time but when it comes to a parent who has a kid with narcolepsy or autism related to an immunisation and who might, if they are very lucky, get a five minute audience with the same political prostitute.

We all have a massive task in front of us if we really would like to see human considerations be placed before political financial bribery.

This is what drives everything today, dont live in dreamworld, thats where Peter Pan and Wendy live.

Is that your home?

The uninformed will be heading down that road.
All this immunization crap will die down soon when someone goes on tv to explain the other side of how immunization dosnt work. Big pharma don't want people knowing the other side of the debate.


Yep and that was the exact subject of one of last nights TV programs.

It wasnt too bad a show it just polarized the issues and naturally missed all the gray and most important issues.

Typical TV fodder, but most people who watched it will consume it as their new source of infallible information.

For Gods sake please learn to A) think for yourself and B) learn to do your research and Due Diligence.

With all the pro-vaccine propaganda and dismissal of any anti-vaccine peoples as ignorant and dangerous across the aussie media

I wonder how people are ever going to hear the other side and make an informed choice?

The gov will probably just make it mandatory in about 5 years time, the facts don't matter, it's now a matter of belief.

I've wondered if the ingredients in the vaccines change over time as they think a new recipe will be more effective or cheaper, but at the cost of side effects which may not be detected for a while or ever like introducing higher risk of some disease later in life, it will be very hard to pin the disease to the actual causal agent.

I agree as well, there's probably some vaccines that are safer than others, but I think we don't understand the biological interactions and limiting vaccinations also limits your risk.

There is no way in hell I'll take a rushed vaccine like the swine flu one that was developed and tested in 2 months.
I'll take my chances with the flu thank you very much.

Communism all over Australia, we're now told what to do. No option. This pisses me off!

Ummm, havent we already arrived at that point today?

More or less!

of course you've got options:

* don't vaccinate your child, and don't let the child go to childcare

or

* vaccinate the child and send the child to childcare.


SEE??? OPTIONS!!!!1

Op, I must completely disagree with you - that you think some vaccines are 'good and essential'. It is definitely NOT a given.

The Vaccine Hoax Is Over

Freedom of Information Act in the UK filed by a doctor there has revealed 30 years of secret official documents showing that government experts have

1. Known the vaccines don’t work
2. Known they cause the diseases they are supposed to prevent
3. Known they are a hazard to children
4. Colluded to lie to the public
5. Worked to prevent safety studies

Those are the same vaccines that are mandated to children in the US.

Educated parents can either get their children out of harm’s way or continue living inside one of the largest most evil lies in history, that vaccines – full of heavy metals, viral diseases, mycoplasma, fecal material, DNA fragments from other species, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 (a sterilizing agent) – are a miracle of modern medicine.

[link to foodfreedomgroup.com]

Oh yeah - and people, you Do have choices!

Exemptions are available, use them.

Further, we are lied to continuously. Like the Victorian smart metre rollout 'they are mandatory'. They are NOT mandatory - as there is no law in existence forcing a consumer to purchase this unwanted product. Yes, they LIED.

Opt out if you wish.

Without any knowledge of how or why the ingredients are what they are, apart form a basic understanding that they do contain must be more or less essential, the ingredients are indeed an extensive list of components, not just four or five ingredients but rather an extensive concoction of compounds, apparently essential for the integrity of the medicine required.

I can provide a "recepie" for the influenza vaccine if required, it is extensive.

The point here is that I have to wonder at the level of study that these compounds have been subjected to in the single situation of their specific combination but also in a poly-pharmacutical setting.

Ok, I realize that most wont understand that last classification, (polypharmacy), so let me explain


We in the Western world get our meds from a pharmacist.

The role of that pharmacist is one of understanding both the specific function of the prescribed meds your doctor has elected for you, to treat whatever condition you might b having.

But , here is the thing, some of those compounds when ordered by your doctor to treat your various ailments will inevidibly conflict with some of the other compounds that you might also need to be taking, and it is the job of your pharmaist to understand the interactions between the various compounds that might have a very negative and possibly deadly combination which could threaten your life and therefore they are the ones charged and qualified with being your watchkeepers of medical compounds that will assist with your health rather than endanger it.

So with that in mind you might now have a better appreciation of exactly it is that you need to obtain your meds from a qualified phamacist raher than just off a storf shelf, its also very important to source all your meds from the same place for the very reasons given here, the big picture is the important one and any break in your medical treatment could be deadly and without warning.

Everything has a good reason behind it and it is not always obvious.