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(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/02/2013 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shall we continue with the Real Second Commandment, that is Idolatry? Any one with a dial up connection and resonable intelligence can bring of images of the Vicar of Christ bowing before graven images, especially images of the supposed Virgin Mary, The Perpetual Virgin Mary, The Lady of All Nations, The Savior of the World, and The Queen of Heaven. Without Mary intercession would seem to be almost impossible. 963 Since the Virgin Mary's role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is 'clearly the mother of the members of Christ' . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503 966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death."508 The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christian. All of this of course is discussed in great detail throughout the Gospels, and Jesus even spoke of the power His mother would have over all of us. Hebrews 7:25 "Therefore he is able to save completely those who come to God through him, because he always lives to intercede for them." No mention of Mary whatsoever, but the Apparition of Satan appearing as Mary says that is not the case, that I only can assit and help you with intercession. Pray my beads of idolatry to me. I will surely assist you. 1st Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediator between God and Mankind, the man Christ Jesus." Again, no reference to the Perpetual Virgin, Immaculate Heart, Mother of God, Lady of Our Nations, Queen of Heaven, Mary. None whatsoever. 508 From among the descendants of Eve, God chose the Virgin Mary to be the mother of his Son. "Full of grace", Mary is "the most excellent fruit of redemption" (SC 103): from the first instant of her conception, she was totally preserved from the stain of original sin and she remained pure from all personal sin throughout her life. This goes not only against the teachings of the church and original sin, but it goes against the bible as well. Romans 3:23 " for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," Notice the exact world of all, and not everyone but Mary. I could spend several hours on this deception and fraud of Mary but there is more important fish to fry. ============================================================ 578 Jesus, Israel's Messiah and therefore the greatest in the kingdom of heaven, was to fulfill the Law by keeping it in its all embracing detail - according to his own words, down to "the least of these commandments".330 He is in fact the only one who could keep it perfectly.331 On their own admission the Jews were never able to observe the Law in its entirety without violating the least of its precepts.332 This is why every year on the Day of Atonement the children of Israel ask God's forgiveness for their transgressions of the Law. The Law indeed makes up one inseparable whole, and St. James recalls, "Whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it."333 Going off their own admission of who Jesus was, why does the Church teach their congregation about worshipping a false God, and all their acts of Idolatry. Afterall, they even acknowledge just one law broken therefore guilty of all of them. 621 Jesus freely offered himself for our salvation. Beforehand, during the Last Supper, he both symbolized this offering and made it really present: "This is my body which is given for you" Again body meaning flesh, or the word just like John said. He died because he spoke the truth, not so we might be assolved of our sins, but to learn the truth and to atone for our sins through him to His father. The atonement theory has changes throughout history, many fancy opinions have been created, but the fact it Jesus gave us the ability to free ourselves from the capitivity of the church and sin, by going directly through him to the Father. Last Edited by Troy. on 05/02/2013 10:20 PM |
A Heretic
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User ID: 3291183 United States 05/03/2013 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 111 But since Sacred Scripture is inspired, there is another and no less important principle of correct interpretation, Quoting: A Heretic without which Scripture would remain a dead letter. "Sacred Scripture must be read and interpreted in the light of the same Spirit by whom it was written."77 Hey. I agree with this 100%. Which means that the only person who can explain the Teaching of Jesus is someone who has received the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of "the resurrection". Which means that EVERY SINGLE Christian theologian should keep their mouth SHUT. Michael |
Spitting Into The Wind
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A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 111 But since Sacred Scripture is inspired, there is another and no less important principle of correct interpretation, Quoting: A Heretic without which Scripture would remain a dead letter. "Sacred Scripture must be read and interpreted in the light of the same Spirit by whom it was written."77 Hey. I agree with this 100%. Which means that the only person who can explain the Teaching of Jesus is someone who has received the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of "the resurrection". Which means that EVERY SINGLE Christian theologian should keep their mouth SHUT. Michael Michael, Good morning. Thank you for your comments. Anything new on your YouTube channel? |
A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I praise the Father that He set your free of the chains of man and encouraged you to seek Him alone through His Son. Stay strong; many more will join us and you will be ready to teach them. Quoting: Spitting Into The Wind Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son. |
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A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The RCC contains all of the truths of the world, even the demonic Edgar Cayce stated this in one of his readings. You sir are saying, I WILL NOT SERVE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39063464 Are you going to actually read the facts or continue to worship the Queen of the Heavens Nammu? Please show me the proof of your whore church. |
K.Kool
User ID: 30833866 Australia 05/03/2013 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is the Catechism, and to me it is brilliant and beautiful. [link to www.vatican.va] Last Edited by #KK# on 05/03/2013 09:00 AM |
A Heretic
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the body of a rose
User ID: 13930601 United States 05/03/2013 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i judge the outside world as i judge mySELF when i exclude myself from a religion or order my heart is closed and my belief system is limited because i limit the creator of ALL things and the creation made Last Edited by Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm on 05/03/2013 09:28 AM the blood of a rose |
Shamar
User ID: 24946868 United States 05/03/2013 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 111 But since Sacred Scripture is inspired, there is another and no less important principle of correct interpretation, Quoting: A Heretic without which Scripture would remain a dead letter. "Sacred Scripture must be read and interpreted in the light of the same Spirit by whom it was written."77 Hey. I agree with this 100%. Which means that the only person who can explain the Teaching of Jesus is someone who has received the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of "the resurrection". <snip> Michael I agree...... There are nuggets of truth buried within but 99% of it is so much bull-hockey it's a mud pit to wade through. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
K.Kool
User ID: 30833866 Australia 05/03/2013 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you compare it to the real scriptures it is a disgusting work of treachery and lies something that most people cannot handle. If I had the book it would make great fuel to start a fire. Hmm, I don't see how you could get that assessment from it, I hope your hatred doesn't burn you. |
Shamar
User ID: 24946868 United States 05/03/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you compare it to the real scriptures it is a disgusting work of treachery and lies something that most people cannot handle. If I had the book it would make great fuel to start a fire. Hmm, I don't see how you could get that assessment from it, I hope your hatred doesn't burn you. He gets it that assessment because he read and compared. And I can tell you this...... that which he hates? will most definitely be burned and annihilated by the fires of purification of the Most High. Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami Love is a one-way street. |
A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 10:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When you compare it to the real scriptures it is a disgusting work of treachery and lies something that most people cannot handle. If I had the book it would make great fuel to start a fire. Hmm, I don't see how you could get that assessment from it, I hope your hatred doesn't burn you. Compare the churches doctrines to the word of God. It doesn't take long to see just exactly how vile the church is. Instead of blindly following the church, your salvation is at stake remember, take the time and compare. All I hate is the Church for very specific reasons. Reasons which if you took the time you might see. There is no tolerance for misleading doctrines of Demons. Of course, truth is hated by Satan, and naturally I must hate for providing the truth. |
K.Kool
User ID: 22049756 Australia 05/03/2013 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you may be misunderstanding what tradition is based on.. the teachings and example of Jesus, as he gave them to the apostles, and which have then been handed down through successive generations to the present. They are both from God, both brought into being by the Holy Spirit, it would be purely academic to compare them. [link to www.vatican.va] |
A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you may be misunderstanding what tradition is based on.. Quoting: K.Kool the teachings and example of Jesus, as he gave them to the apostles, and which have then been handed down through successive generations to the present. They are both from God, both brought into being by the Holy Spirit, it would be purely academic to compare them. [link to www.vatican.va] Jesus and the apostles were not Idolators, they did not worship images nor bow before them. Your traditions are based on pagan ideology that Constantine brought to the church when he converted. Look it up it doesn't take long to see that all those graven images of the whore church are images from other Pagan Gods, one of those BAAL. look up the real second commandment, not the lie of the church. I misunderstand NOTHING, rather you DO! |
K.Kool
User ID: 22049756 Australia 05/03/2013 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you may be misunderstanding what tradition is based on.. Quoting: K.Kool the teachings and example of Jesus, as he gave them to the apostles, and which have then been handed down through successive generations to the present. They are both from God, both brought into being by the Holy Spirit, it would be purely academic to compare them. [link to www.vatican.va] Jesus and the apostles were not Idolators, they did not worship images nor bow before them. Your traditions are based on pagan ideology that Constantine brought to the church when he converted. Look it up it doesn't take long to see that all those graven images of the whore church are images from other Pagan Gods, one of those BAAL. look up the real second commandment, not the lie of the church. I misunderstand NOTHING, rather you DO! Statues and paintings of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, are not graven images. Intelligence tells you it would be crazy to imagine a statue is really Jesus. "Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. the movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is". [link to www.vatican.va] |
A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you may be misunderstanding what tradition is based on.. Quoting: K.Kool the teachings and example of Jesus, as he gave them to the apostles, and which have then been handed down through successive generations to the present. They are both from God, both brought into being by the Holy Spirit, it would be purely academic to compare them. [link to www.vatican.va] Jesus and the apostles were not Idolators, they did not worship images nor bow before them. Your traditions are based on pagan ideology that Constantine brought to the church when he converted. Look it up it doesn't take long to see that all those graven images of the whore church are images from other Pagan Gods, one of those BAAL. look up the real second commandment, not the lie of the church. I misunderstand NOTHING, rather you DO! Statues and paintings of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, are not graven images. Intelligence tells you it would be crazy to imagine a statue is really Jesus. "Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. the movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is". [link to www.vatican.va] Nothing on Earth nothing in Heaven and nothing below Earth which is the sea, what is so hard about the word NOTHING? Bowing down before any image is idolatry. We only bow to God, Jesus is not God, Mary is not God, dead Saints are not God, and the Eucharist is not God! And once again your resource is an institution and not the word of God. You will perish two deaths from those beliefs, and that is the truth. Last Edited by Troy. on 05/03/2013 06:46 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23554071 United States 05/03/2013 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The RCC contains all of the truths of the world, even the demonic Edgar Cayce stated this in one of his readings. You sir are saying, I WILL NOT SERVE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39063464 Are you going to actually read the facts or continue to worship the Queen of the Heavens Nammu? Please show me the proof of your whore church. "Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son." Yet you besmirch another faith. What a fucking hypocrite. Your pride will be your undoing. |
A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The RCC contains all of the truths of the world, even the demonic Edgar Cayce stated this in one of his readings. You sir are saying, I WILL NOT SERVE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39063464 Are you going to actually read the facts or continue to worship the Queen of the Heavens Nammu? Please show me the proof of your whore church. "Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son." Yet you besmirch another faith. What a fucking hypocrite. Your pride will be your undoing. Following the word of God is not hypocrisy, and by your mouth I can tell you're a real gem. The fruit falls close to the tree, did you hear that word a lot growing up? A frequent word used in your home? Last Edited by Troy. on 05/03/2013 06:51 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23554071 United States 05/03/2013 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The RCC contains all of the truths of the world, even the demonic Edgar Cayce stated this in one of his readings. You sir are saying, I WILL NOT SERVE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39063464 Are you going to actually read the facts or continue to worship the Queen of the Heavens Nammu? Please show me the proof of your whore church. "Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son." Yet you besmirch another faith. What a fucking hypocrite. Your pride will be your undoing. Following the word of God is not hypocrisy, and by your mouth I can tell you're a real gem. The fruit falls close to the tree, did you hear that word a lot growing up? A frequent word used in your home? You sure an arrogant fuck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39224504 Spain 05/03/2013 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The RCC contains all of the truths of the world, even the demonic Edgar Cayce stated this in one of his readings. You sir are saying, I WILL NOT SERVE. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39063464 Are you going to actually read the facts or continue to worship the Queen of the Heavens Nammu? Please show me the proof of your whore church. "Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son." Yet you besmirch another faith. What a fucking hypocrite. Your pride will be your undoing. Following the word of God is not hypocrisy, and by your mouth I can tell you're a real gem. The fruit falls close to the tree, did you hear that word a lot growing up? A frequent word used in your home? Give it a rest op. Or we will sprinkle you with Holy Water |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39224504 Spain 05/03/2013 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: A Heretic Are you going to actually read the facts or continue to worship the Queen of the Heavens Nammu? Please show me the proof of your whore church. "Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son." Yet you besmirch another faith. What a fucking hypocrite. Your pride will be your undoing. Following the word of God is not hypocrisy, and by your mouth I can tell you're a real gem. The fruit falls close to the tree, did you hear that word a lot growing up? A frequent word used in your home? You sure an arrogant fuck. Fk yeah! thats three for ya op..I think its called a tris |
A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: A Heretic Are you going to actually read the facts or continue to worship the Queen of the Heavens Nammu? Please show me the proof of your whore church. "Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son." Yet you besmirch another faith. What a fucking hypocrite. Your pride will be your undoing. Following the word of God is not hypocrisy, and by your mouth I can tell you're a real gem. The fruit falls close to the tree, did you hear that word a lot growing up? A frequent word used in your home? You sure an arrogant fuck. Truth hurts on both accounts I see, both spiritually and environmentally. Your mouth is that of a viper and has defiled you. Just another sign of ow godless you are. Last Edited by Troy. on 05/03/2013 07:02 PM |
A Heretic
(OP) User ID: 31231991 United States 05/03/2013 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: A Heretic Are you going to actually read the facts or continue to worship the Queen of the Heavens Nammu? Please show me the proof of your whore church. "Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son." Yet you besmirch another faith. What a fucking hypocrite. Your pride will be your undoing. Following the word of God is not hypocrisy, and by your mouth I can tell you're a real gem. The fruit falls close to the tree, did you hear that word a lot growing up? A frequent word used in your home? Give it a rest op. Or we will sprinkle you with Holy Water That was actually funny |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39224504 Spain 05/03/2013 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23554071 "Yes free at least as of this past December, and I have never been so close to God and His Son." Yet you besmirch another faith. What a fucking hypocrite. Your pride will be your undoing. Following the word of God is not hypocrisy, and by your mouth I can tell you're a real gem. The fruit falls close to the tree, did you hear that word a lot growing up? A frequent word used in your home? Give it a rest op. Or we will sprinkle you with Holy Water That was actually funny Angels are Catholic ..just sayin :) |
K.Kool
User ID: 22049756 Australia 05/03/2013 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think you may be misunderstanding what tradition is based on.. Quoting: K.Kool the teachings and example of Jesus, as he gave them to the apostles, and which have then been handed down through successive generations to the present. They are both from God, both brought into being by the Holy Spirit, it would be purely academic to compare them. [link to www.vatican.va] Jesus and the apostles were not Idolators, they did not worship images nor bow before them. Your traditions are based on pagan ideology that Constantine brought to the church when he converted. Look it up it doesn't take long to see that all those graven images of the whore church are images from other Pagan Gods, one of those BAAL. look up the real second commandment, not the lie of the church. I misunderstand NOTHING, rather you DO! Statues and paintings of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, are not graven images. Intelligence tells you it would be crazy to imagine a statue is really Jesus. "Religious worship is not directed to images in themselves, considered as mere things, but under their distinctive aspect as images leading us on to God incarnate. the movement toward the image does not terminate in it as image, but tends toward that whose image it is". [link to www.vatican.va] Nothing on Earth nothing in Heaven and nothing below Earth which is the sea, what is so hard about the word NOTHING? Bowing down before any image is idolatry. We only bow to God, Jesus is not God, Mary is not God, dead Saints are not God, and the Eucharist is not God! And once again your resource is an institution and not the word of God. You will perish two deaths from those beliefs, and that is the truth. When Jesus came, he made it quite clear it is what is in your heart that matters most to God, not gestures and words. I don't worship images or statues, they help my mind focus on God. The kind of faith you are proposing is superstition to me, fixated on the letter of the law, but far from the heart. |