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The Apparition of Mary, "Queen of Heaven"

 
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Now answer me this..would the Sanhedrin have permitted Roman authorities to judge a Rabbi? and not only judge Him but have Him die the death of the lowest of the low denied even the basic religious rites?
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Once again stop dodging questions like a rabbit. Answer how your church doesn't follow the word of God? Why has the church removed the second commandment? Why does your church allow idolatry?

But you Catholics are just like your leaders, dodging questions, escaping, and what is best penetrating holes. That is what your leadership does best they penetrate holes.

God and Jesus are so utterly disgusted with YOUR CHURCH
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Or maybe He came to DESTROY..DESTROY the judaic religion from within? tear it down..bit by bit..quote by quote..?

what do you think? huh?
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Now answer me this..would the Sanhedrin have permitted Roman authorities to judge a Rabbi? and not only judge Him but have Him die the death of the lowest of the low denied even the basic religious rites?
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funny you should mention this because the roman authorities had nothing to do with his death.....the *j_ws* did it all on their own.......all of it.
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Yet He was handed over to gentile authorities..Roman to boot..judged next to a common criminal

condemned..


beaten..mocked..spat on

stripped..nailed to a cross

laughed at

crowned with thorns

taken down in a hurry and not even afforded the decent burial rites according to the then religion of that area?

A jewish rabbi?

are you serious?
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I'm just quoting the scriptures.......
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Now answer me this..would the Sanhedrin have permitted Roman authorities to judge a Rabbi? and not only judge Him but have Him die the death of the lowest of the low denied even the basic religious rites?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39224504


Once again stop dodging questions like a rabbit. Answer how your church doesn't follow the word of God? Why has the church removed the second commandment? Why does your church allow idolatry?

But you Catholics are just like your leaders, dodging questions, escaping, and what is best penetrating holes. That is what your leadership does best they penetrate holes.

God and Jesus are so utterly disgusted with YOUR CHURCH
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Or maybe He came to DESTROY..DESTROY the judaic religion from within? tear it down..bit by bit..quote by quote..?

what do you think? huh?
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Why yes, I do believe He did.
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As to Him being "jewish" tell me..was he "jewish" before incarnating and after resureccting?

because He IS..Intemporal and existed before being born in the flsh and after Resurecting froim the dead
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You have to have an understanding of who Israel is as the "firstborn son" of God..... (Exodus 4:22) and how Jesus *relates* Himself to Israel..........both are referred to as the "vine."
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Exactly, Israel was Jacob, and refers to the twelve sons of Jacob, the twelve tribes. That is Israel. It has nothing to do with the Jews.
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Now answer me this..would the Sanhedrin have permitted Roman authorities to judge a Rabbi? and not only judge Him but have Him die the death of the lowest of the low denied even the basic religious rites?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39224504


Once again stop dodging questions like a rabbit. Answer how your church doesn't follow the word of God? Why has the church removed the second commandment? Why does your church allow idolatry?

But you Catholics are just like your leaders, dodging questions, escaping, and what is best penetrating holes. That is what your leadership does best they penetrate holes.

God and Jesus are so utterly disgusted with YOUR CHURCH
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Or maybe He came to DESTROY..DESTROY the judaic religion from within? tear it down..bit by bit..quote by quote..?

what do you think? huh?
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He came to conquer and divide. To crucify the world and hold everyone accountable to the truth that was given to Him by His Father. By the word becoming FLESH he offered the world salvation, because the TRUTH is salvation.

He was murdered because he spoke the TRUTH, the words of HIS FATHER.
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I chose not to worship the words of a church or men, such as Catechism. A word which not found within the Bible. We are all born sinners, again an idea that you are not familiar with.

Woman relates to the feminine as Jesus is the groom within the bridal chamber, and we all are His bride if present within the chamber. We all our the bride of Christ. I don't expect any Pope, which you call leader and Holy Father, Cardinal, Bishop, or priest can accurately and truthful speak about the bridal chamber, and how it relates to the Holyest of Holies. If they could they would be without a job!

Once again Jesus is intercession and the only, please tell me where in the scriptures it says anything else?
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This ^^
 Quoting: Fantasia II

Mary points to her Son, Jesus Christ as the one to go through to get to the Father. Show me where she dosn't and i'll show you an example of a false apparition. There are only a few approved apparitions ....the others are mostly satan trying to steel the show and confuse. These are the ones many use to try and discredit the true and approved ones with. Blessings.

I do not take any of this diss-ing personal so ask away about any questions. Soon the Holy Sprit is coming and all will become very clear. ;)
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There is more to discuss then the apparition of Mary. For instance, the Catholic Church changed the second commandment of God, and replaced it by breaking one into two. We all know what happens from what is revealed within the word of God by doing this.

Secondly, as a follower how can you explain worshipping and bowing down to graven images when it is clearly states numerous times within Gods words not to do this?

Thirdly, given that the sabbath was changed by the Pagan Constantine on March 7th, 0321 AD how can you legimately present an argument based on the words of God, and not the false lies of your church?

You cannot answer any of these because the fact is you worship a church which fails in all aspects based on the words of God that are found in the scriptures. Catholics worship an institution that has broken all the sacred commandments, and catholics worship Christ over God, which is a false God, and the anit-Christ at that.

All it takes is a little ounce of honesty with yourself, and ten minutes to pick up the book and read the words of God. Nothing more and nothing less. There is no argument towards the truth that are found within the lies that The Whore has produced.
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Look as far as my "faith" goes, I am a Christian. I have voluntarily renounced satan, been baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit, I also do unto others as God places me in situations to do so. My "church" serves ME, I do not serve it. Ok....so quit with the crap.
You are trying to inspire hatred and to get me to argue and I am not going to do eighter.
You do not inspire what I know to be a christ like persona...at all. On the contrary.
And who are YOU to question anything as far as what only appears to you to be right or wrong, for only God knows sister. I should advise you to take your own advise and practice some humility as it will serve you well. Good luck.VIRGIN MARY AND

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SMACK!gotbop
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This ^^
 Quoting: Fantasia II

Mary points to her Son, Jesus Christ as the one to go through to get to the Father. Show me where she dosn't and i'll show you an example of a false apparition. There are only a few approved apparitions ....the others are mostly satan trying to steel the show and confuse. These are the ones many use to try and discredit the true and approved ones with. Blessings.

I do not take any of this diss-ing personal so ask away about any questions. Soon the Holy Sprit is coming and all will become very clear. ;)
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There is more to discuss then the apparition of Mary. For instance, the Catholic Church changed the second commandment of God, and replaced it by breaking one into two. We all know what happens from what is revealed within the word of God by doing this.

Secondly, as a follower how can you explain worshipping and bowing down to graven images when it is clearly states numerous times within Gods words not to do this?

Thirdly, given that the sabbath was changed by the Pagan Constantine on March 7th, 0321 AD how can you legimately present an argument based on the words of God, and not the false lies of your church?

You cannot answer any of these because the fact is you worship a church which fails in all aspects based on the words of God that are found in the scriptures. Catholics worship an institution that has broken all the sacred commandments, and catholics worship Christ over God, which is a false God, and the anit-Christ at that.

All it takes is a little ounce of honesty with yourself, and ten minutes to pick up the book and read the words of God. Nothing more and nothing less. There is no argument towards the truth that are found within the lies that The Whore has produced.
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Look as far as my "faith" goes, I am a Christian. I have voluntarily renounced satan, been baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit, I also do unto others as God places me in situations to do so. My "church" serves ME, I do not serve it. Ok....so quit with the crap.
You are trying to inspire hatred and to get me to argue and I am not going to do eighter.
You do not inspire what I know to be a christ like persona...at all. On the contrary.
And who are YOU to question anything as far as what only appears to you to be right or wrong, for only God knows sister. I should advise you to take your own advise and practice some humility as it will serve you well. Good luck.
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The truth divides and it always has. An apple is an apple, and not an orange. There is not fifty shades of gray when dealing with the words of God. Laws are quite clear indeed, and we are all held accountable to those laws. By saying you dont serve the church, passively you do every time you walk through those doors to worship.

There is no hatred for you, rather the institution that has done everything to destroy the word of God. Very simple and very plain.

Once again your worship is not based on the ways of God, rather the ways of church. Unless you would like to put your doctrine up against the words of God I wish you the best and a nice day.

Otherwise respectfully leave this thread, unless you would like to present scriptural truth on the ways your church gathers, presents, and dictates their beliefs.

Oh and I would suggest you start reading the old testament to see how God has destroyed false religions and those that worship in the past. Just a friendly heads up to the judgment that is coming very soon to America.

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this is just too good.........I think this thread is VERY relevant here!!

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Your post is so full of incorrect and misleading information, I can't respond to it all. What apparition of Mary are you referring to? There are hundreds, if not thousands, reported across the globe. The Catholic church has only approved a handful of these apparitions.

If you really want to know what the Catholic church actually teaches about Revelation and about Mary, why don't you look to the Catechism instead of relying on outside disinformation agents?

Do you even know what an intercessor is? Do you even know what the 'Communion of Saints' is? Catholics do not worship or idolize Mary. They regard her as a loving mother, just as Jesus taught:

"When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, 'Woman, behold your son.' Then he said to the disciple, 'Behold your mother.' And from that hour the disciple took her into his home." John 19:26-27. You think these words made the Book of John, the pinnacle of the Gospels, because Jesus, the son of God, was concerned nobody would take care of his mother?

Mary was born without sin - if she had been a sinful person, how could she possibly have carried in her womb the perfect, sinless and divine Jesus? He had to be born perfect - unsoiled by the sin and evil of this world.

Catholics honor Mary's purity and her complete abandonment to the will of God. This is not idolatry - we don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us because she is so beloved by the Father and by Jesus. How can you dishonor Jesus by loving his mother - whose entire existence was dedicated to giving glory and honor to the Father and the Son? It's impossible! We pray to Mary only asking her to pray on our behalf - we do not worship her. We only worship the Triune God (Father, son and Holy Spirit.) All glory and honor belongs to God alone - this is VERY clear in Catholic theology.

That said, Mary clearly has an integral role in God's plan. If you notice above, in the book of John, when Jesus refers to his mother, he uses the word 'Woman' and 'Woman' is capitalized. This conjures up and refers back to the 'Woman' in Genesis - "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers, they will strike at your head while you strike at their heel." Genesis 3:15. Mary's complete abandonment to the will of God as well as her purity and her absence of sin are the antidotes to evil in this world. Why should her example not be held up for us to emulate?

Back to the apparitions - it is possible, in fact, very likely, that a large number of these apparitions are either fake or demonic in nature - a trick of the enemy. This is why it is imperative that the faithful should treat any apparition that has not been investigated and approved by the Church. And the Church is very clear on this point.

Are you anti-Christian, or just anti-Catholic?
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This misunderstanding of the role the Virgin Mary plays will soon be put to rest during the Illumination of Souls (cannot wait!).

The Virgin Mary appears to people around the world begging for humanity to turn back to God and to follow Her Son Jesus. It is as simple as that. But people have free will to believe what they want to believe.

I am speaking from experience as I am a witness to Our Lady of Emmitsburg.
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Your post is so full of incorrect and misleading information, I can't respond to it all. What apparition of Mary are you referring to? There are hundreds, if not thousands, reported across the globe. The Catholic church has only approved a handful of these apparitions.

If you really want to know what the Catholic church actually teaches about Revelation and about Mary, why don't you look to the Catechism instead of relying on outside disinformation agents?

Do you even know what an intercessor is? Do you even know what the 'Communion of Saints' is? Catholics do not worship or idolize Mary. They regard her as a loving mother, just as Jesus taught:

"When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, 'Woman, behold your son.' Then he said to the disciple, 'Behold your mother.' And from that hour the disciple took her into his home." John 19:26-27. You think these words made the Book of John, the pinnacle of the Gospels, because Jesus, the son of God, was concerned nobody would take care of his mother?

Mary was born without sin - if she had been a sinful person, how could she possibly have carried in her womb the perfect, sinless and divine Jesus? He had to be born perfect - unsoiled by the sin and evil of this world.

Catholics honor Mary's purity and her complete abandonment to the will of God. This is not idolatry - we don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us because she is so beloved by the Father and by Jesus. How can you dishonor Jesus by loving his mother - whose entire existence was dedicated to giving glory and honor to the Father and the Son? It's impossible! We pray to Mary only asking her to pray on our behalf - we do not worship her. We only worship the Triune God (Father, son and Holy Spirit.) All glory and honor belongs to God alone - this is VERY clear in Catholic theology.

That said, Mary clearly has an integral role in God's plan. If you notice above, in the book of John, when Jesus refers to his mother, he uses the word 'Woman' and 'Woman' is capitalized. This conjures up and refers back to the 'Woman' in Genesis - "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers, they will strike at your head while you strike at their heel." Genesis 3:15. Mary's complete abandonment to the will of God as well as her purity and her absence of sin are the antidotes to evil in this world. Why should her example not be held up for us to emulate?

Back to the apparitions - it is possible, in fact, very likely, that a large number of these apparitions are either fake or demonic in nature - a trick of the enemy. This is why it is imperative that the faithful should treat any apparition that has not been investigated and approved by the Church. And the Church is very clear on this point.

Are you anti-Christian, or just anti-Catholic?
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This misunderstanding of the role the Virgin Mary plays will soon be put to rest during the Illumination of Souls (cannot wait!).

The Virgin Mary appears to people around the world begging for humanity to turn back to God and to follow Her Son Jesus. It is as simple as that. But people have free will to believe what they want to believe.

I am speaking from experience as I am a witness to Our Lady of Emmitsburg.
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There is no misunderstanding of beliefs. I do not idolate a statue. I do not pray to false gods. I do not pray with beads another form of idolatry. God and Jesus warned us all about these false forms of worship. The doctrines of your church are doctrines of demons.
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“Come down and sit in the dust, O maiden daughter of Babel. Sit on the ground without a throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans! For no more do they call you tender and delicate. 2“Take the millstones and grind flour. Remove your veil, lift up the skirt, uncover the leg, pass through rivers. 3“Let your nakedness be uncovered, let your shame also be exposed. I take vengeance, and meet no man.” 4Our Redeemer, Yahweh of hosts is His Name, the Set-apart One of Yisra’el. 5“Sit silent, and go into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans! For no more do they call you Mistress of Reigns.
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In 495 A.D., Pope Gelasius issued a decree which rejected this teaching as heresy and its proponents as heretics. In the sixth century, Pope Hormisdas also condemned as heretics those authors who taught the doctrine of the Assumption of Mary. The early Church clearly considered the doctrine of the Assumption of Mary to be a heresy worthy of condemnation. Here we have “infallible” popes declaring something to be a heresy. Then in 1950, Pope Pius XII, another “infallible” pope, declared it to be official Roman Catholic doctrine. [15]
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QUEEN OF HEAVEN ‑- God has exalted Mary in heavenly glory as Queen of Heaven and earth. (Catechism 966) She is to be praised with special devotion. (Catechism 971, 2675)

Psalm 148:13 says, “Let them praise the name of the Lord: for his name alone is excellent; his glory is above the earth and heaven.” This makes it quite clear that only God’s name (not Mary’s) is to be exalted. (In Catholic Bibles the numbering of the chapters and verses of some of the Psalms is slightly different.)
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Revelation of John 17:5

In the Revelation of John 17:5 John refers to a woman as the abominations of earth, drunk from the blood of saints and from the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When trying to decipher the meaning of what John is actually saying, many look at the clues found within the verses without giving proper thought to the idea or implications of what is actually being said; clues relating to the observable appearance of what this woman is dressed in. There is nothing wrong with this approach at all and it is natural for humans to form ideas based on the reality of the interaction of the physical world. However, the most important meaning is a mystery, hidden from most due to the power of our very own relationship with the physical world. That is, the pattern of thought that keeps us very dependent upon the two dimensional realities of the physical world.

John's reference is to Babylon, a very specific one at that and to properly understand one, first, has to start at the root within the Bible where Babylon is first mentioned. That root starts in Genesis as the beginnings of false worship are discussed when referenced to Nimrod. This can be seen is Gen 10: 8-10. All of the civilizations found within the area known as the Fertile Crescent worshiped Gods based on rites of fertility, and the Sun. This can be seen in Jeremiah 7:18, 44:17-19, 25. Even today as many people celebrate Easter the origins of Easter are wholly unknown, yet can be traced to the exchanging of Ishtar eggs. As history progressed a dominant goddess was established, that goddess being Inanna or known better as Nammu the Queen of the Heaven, and depicted as the moon goddess as her crescent was placed above all gods on the register. In Sumerian times, Babylonian, the origin of the universe was due to Nammu, and one of the goddess she birthed was the moon goddess Sin. Nammu was a considered a virgin as well.

How does this relate with the current times and the most dominant form of Christianity, Catholicism? Over the past century there have been many claims and reports of the Mary apparition appearing before many people and performing many miracles. This is all well documented and observed by many. The great signs, wonders, and miracles that this apparition is accredited with caused the Catholic Church to officially dedicate the entire world to Mary in 2004. Their beliefs were that Mary would unite all religions, and bring about global peace, because Jesus is too controversial and divisive. The Roman Catholic Church has proclaimed Mary to be intercessor and in 1854, declared conqueror of death and evil. This is clearly repudiated in Hebrews 7:25 and 1 Timothy 2:5.
The apparition of Mary says she is the Queen of Heaven, Mother of God, Queen of Ages, and the Lady of all Nations. She has said when declared co-redemptorist of the church that she would be peace to all nations, and in 2005 The Roman Catholic Church declared her the Lady of All Nations. The following scripture passages that all relate to the end times clearly shows the problem with such doctrines of demons. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. Daniel 7:23, 8:25, 9:27. Revelations 6:1-4, 13:7-8, 17:18, and 18:3. 2 Timothy 3:13. Matthew 24:24. Galatians 1:8-9. 2 Corinthians 11: 14-15. All these accusations for global peace can be summarized within God’s words found in, Jeremiah 7:18, 44: 17-25, Ezekiel 8:14. These all go back to the Queen of Heaven found worshipped in Mesopotamia.
The apparition of Mary has told her followers to erect statues, shrines, and idols to venerate her, worship her, and to pray to her to remind everyone the importance of her role and presence within the Catholic Church. In 431 AD the Church proclaimed Mary Mother of God, just one example of the forty unscriptural doctrines that church practices and adheres to. In 1854 she was named the Queen and Gate to Heaven. How does this contradict the very simple and true words found in the scriptures? Deuteronomy 4:14-19 No idols, no statues, no heavenly wonders are to be worshipped. Isaiah 42:8 God will give His Glory to no one. Furthermore, the apparition of Mary has made the claims as sinless, an immaculate conception, and should be seen as the bright and morning star, because she will crush the serpent. The church followed her lead and in 553 AD claimed her perpetual virgin and immaculate conception, and in 1854 sinless. The following scripture passages must be read and noted, 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan is an angel of Light. Romans 3:23 we are all sinners. Isaiah 42:8 God will give His Glory to no one. Isaiah 44:6 God is the first and the last, beside God there is no other.
The apparition of Mary says she has been sent to save the world, and she alone can and will redeem us as she is the ‘ark of salvation’. In 1950 the Roman Catholic Church declared Mary the ‘Ark in Heaven’. 1 Peter 1:18-19 Jesus is our redeemer. John 15 Jesus only. Luke 1:38 Mary says she is the Lord’s servant. Acts 4:11-12 Jesus Only. Hosea 13:4 God only. The apparition of Mary says she atones for our sins, suffers for us as her heart is found within Christ’s heart, and in 1950 the Roman Catholic Church proclaimed Mary had gone to Heaven as Jesus had, known as the assumption of Mary. John 19:30 Jesus said, “It is finished.” 1 Peter 3:18 Christ suffered once and for all. Hebrews 10:12-14, 18 One sacrifice, no longer any suffering.
As you can see this apparition clearly has not stayed true to the words of God, and thus has to be tried as false, and rather the angel of Satan. She has time and time again went against the very words of God as reflected in the above passages, but there is many more references that can be found. Babylon the Mystery as once again Satan has fooled so many believers that are quick to follow before they question the intentions and truths to such accusations. Are there any churches today that live up to word of God? Clearly someone can see similarites of the apparition of Mary, and the Queen of the Heavens Nammu, the goddess credited with the entire universe.
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what do you mean "She has time and time again went against the Word of God?"

lol

if shes a myth then she isn't real, right?

and/or an apparition of satan as you inferred

how in hell can she have then done anything that you can lay blame upon, eh?

you can't have it both ways

for the record

but you can damn sure try...

as far as the whore of Babylon goes it is a reference to the entire Kingdom of Babel, confusion, the marketer of the world, the sensible, rational, logical mind follows suit with such... tree of the knowledge of good and evil

in fact, just a mind that seeks to lay blame on another is indulging in those effects of partaking of the tree of the knowledge of same

prior to such no guilt, blame, nor shame existed in the world

that was satans gift

one can never inherit the mysteries of God if they cling to their rational mindset

one has to put that beneath them if they ever wish to taste the perfect
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Revelation of John 17:5

In the Revelation of John 17:5 John refers to a woman as the abominations of earth, drunk from the blood of saints and from the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When trying to decipher the meaning of what John is actually saying, many look at the clues found within the verses without giving proper thought to the idea or implications of what is actually being said; clues relating to the observable appearance of what this woman is dressed in. There is nothing wrong with this approach at all and it is natural for humans to form ideas based on the reality of the interaction of the physical world. However, the most important meaning is a mystery, hidden from most due to the power of our very own relationship with the physical world. That is, the pattern of thought that keeps us very dependent upon the two dimensional realities of the physical world.

John's reference is to Babylon, a very specific one at that and to properly understand one, first, has to start at the root within the Bible where Babylon is first mentioned. That root starts in Genesis as the beginnings of false worship are discussed when referenced to Nimrod. This can be seen is Gen 10: 8-10. All of the civilizations found within the area known as the Fertile Crescent worshiped Gods based on rites of fertility, and the Sun. This can be seen in Jeremiah 7:18, 44:17-19, 25. Even today as many people celebrate Easter the origins of Easter are wholly unknown, yet can be traced to the exchanging of Ishtar eggs. As history progressed a dominant goddess was established, that goddess being Inanna or known better as Nammu the Queen of the Heaven, and depicted as the moon goddess as her crescent was placed above all gods on the register. In Sumerian times, Babylonian, the origin of the universe was due to Nammu, and one of the goddess she birthed was the moon goddess Sin. Nammu was a considered a virgin as well.

How does this relate with the current times and the most dominant form of Christianity, Catholicism? Over the past century there have been many claims and reports of the Mary apparition appearing before many people and performing many miracles. This is all well documented and observed by many. The great signs, wonders, and miracles that this apparition is accredited with caused the Catholic Church to officially dedicate the entire world to Mary in 2004. Their beliefs were that Mary would unite all religions, and bring about global peace, because Jesus is too controversial and divisive. The Roman Catholic Church has proclaimed Mary to be intercessor and in 1854, declared conqueror of death and evil. This is clearly repudiated in Hebrews 7:25 and 1 Timothy 2:5.
The apparition of Mary says she is the Queen of Heaven, Mother of God, Queen of Ages, and the Lady of all Nations. She has said when declared co-redemptorist of the church that she would be peace to all nations, and in 2005 The Roman Catholic Church declared her the Lady of All Nations. The following scripture passages that all relate to the end times clearly shows the problem with such doctrines of demons. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. Daniel 7:23, 8:25, 9:27. Revelations 6:1-4, 13:7-8, 17:18, and 18:3. 2 Timothy 3:13. Matthew 24:24. Galatians 1:8-9. 2 Corinthians 11: 14-15. All these accusations for global peace can be summarized within God’s words found in, Jeremiah 7:18, 44: 17-25, Ezekiel 8:14. These all go back to the Queen of Heaven found worshipped in Mesopotamia.
The apparition of Mary has told her followers to erect statues, shrines, and idols to venerate her, worship her, and to pray to her to remind everyone the importance of her role and presence within the Catholic Church. In 431 AD the Church proclaimed Mary Mother of God, just one example of the forty unscriptural doctrines that church practices and adheres to. In 1854 she was named the Queen and Gate to Heaven. How does this contradict the very simple and true words found in the scriptures? Deuteronomy 4:14-19 No idols, no statues, no heavenly wonders are to be worshipped. Isaiah 42:8 God will give His Glory to no one. Furthermore, the apparition of Mary has made the claims as sinless, an immaculate conception, and should be seen as the bright and morning star, because she will crush the serpent. The church followed her lead and in 553 AD claimed her perpetual virgin and immaculate conception, and in 1854 sinless. The following scripture passages must be read and noted, 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan is an angel of Light. Romans 3:23 we are all sinners. Isaiah 42:8 God will give His Glory to no one. Isaiah 44:6 God is the first and the last, beside God there is no other.
The apparition of Mary says she has been sent to save the world, and she alone can and will redeem us as she is the ‘ark of salvation’. In 1950 the Roman Catholic Church declared Mary the ‘Ark in Heaven’. 1 Peter 1:18-19 Jesus is our redeemer. John 15 Jesus only. Luke 1:38 Mary says she is the Lord’s servant. Acts 4:11-12 Jesus Only. Hosea 13:4 God only. The apparition of Mary says she atones for our sins, suffers for us as her heart is found within Christ’s heart, and in 1950 the Roman Catholic Church proclaimed Mary had gone to Heaven as Jesus had, known as the assumption of Mary. John 19:30 Jesus said, “It is finished.” 1 Peter 3:18 Christ suffered once and for all. Hebrews 10:12-14, 18 One sacrifice, no longer any suffering.
As you can see this apparition clearly has not stayed true to the words of God, and thus has to be tried as false, and rather the angel of Satan. She has time and time again went against the very words of God as reflected in the above passages, but there is many more references that can be found. Babylon the Mystery as once again Satan has fooled so many believers that are quick to follow before they question the intentions and truths to such accusations. Are there any churches today that live up to word of God? Clearly someone can see similarites of the apparition of Mary, and the Queen of the Heavens Nammu, the goddess credited with the entire universe.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift






what do you mean "She has time and time again went against the Word of God?"

lol

if shes a myth then she isn't real, right?

and/or an apparition of satan as you inferred

how in hell can she have then done anything that you can lay blame upon, eh?

you can't have it both ways

for the record

but you can damn sure try...

as far as the whore of Babylon goes it is a reference to the entire Kingdom of Babel, confusion, the marketer of the world, the sensible, rational, logical mind follows suit with such... tree of the knowledge of good and evil

in fact, just a mind that seeks to lay blame on another is indulging in those effects of partaking of the tree of the knowledge of same

prior to such no guilt, blame, nor shame existed in the world

that was satans gift

one can never inherit the mysteries of God if they cling to their rational mindset

one has to put that beneath them if they ever wish to taste the perfect
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Again look at the doctrines within your own church these are all documented by the Catholic Church and see how it fits right into to what has been seen throughout history.

Mystery Babylon is the Catholic Church, sorry. Again you have to look back to see what is prophesied as Babylon.
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Revelation of John 17:5

In the Revelation of John 17:5 John refers to a woman as the abominations of earth, drunk from the blood of saints and from the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When trying to decipher the meaning of what John is actually saying, many look at the clues found within the verses without giving proper thought to the idea or implications of what is actually being said; clues relating to the observable appearance of what this woman is dressed in. There is nothing wrong with this approach at all and it is natural for humans to form ideas based on the reality of the interaction of the physical world. However, the most important meaning is a mystery, hidden from most due to the power of our very own relationship with the physical world. That is, the pattern of thought that keeps us very dependent upon the two dimensional realities of the physical world.

John's reference is to Babylon, a very specific one at that and to properly understand one, first, has to start at the root within the Bible where Babylon is first mentioned. That root starts in Genesis as the beginnings of false worship are discussed when referenced to Nimrod. This can be seen is Gen 10: 8-10. All of the civilizations found within the area known as the Fertile Crescent worshiped Gods based on rites of fertility, and the Sun. This can be seen in Jeremiah 7:18, 44:17-19, 25. Even today as many people celebrate Easter the origins of Easter are wholly unknown, yet can be traced to the exchanging of Ishtar eggs. As history progressed a dominant goddess was established, that goddess being Inanna or known better as Nammu the Queen of the Heaven, and depicted as the moon goddess as her crescent was placed above all gods on the register. In Sumerian times, Babylonian, the origin of the universe was due to Nammu, and one of the goddess she birthed was the moon goddess Sin. Nammu was a considered a virgin as well.

How does this relate with the current times and the most dominant form of Christianity, Catholicism? Over the past century there have been many claims and reports of the Mary apparition appearing before many people and performing many miracles. This is all well documented and observed by many. The great signs, wonders, and miracles that this apparition is accredited with caused the Catholic Church to officially dedicate the entire world to Mary in 2004. Their beliefs were that Mary would unite all religions, and bring about global peace, because Jesus is too controversial and divisive. The Roman Catholic Church has proclaimed Mary to be intercessor and in 1854, declared conqueror of death and evil. This is clearly repudiated in Hebrews 7:25 and 1 Timothy 2:5.
The apparition of Mary says she is the Queen of Heaven, Mother of God, Queen of Ages, and the Lady of all Nations. She has said when declared co-redemptorist of the church that she would be peace to all nations, and in 2005 The Roman Catholic Church declared her the Lady of All Nations. The following scripture passages that all relate to the end times clearly shows the problem with such doctrines of demons. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. Daniel 7:23, 8:25, 9:27. Revelations 6:1-4, 13:7-8, 17:18, and 18:3. 2 Timothy 3:13. Matthew 24:24. Galatians 1:8-9. 2 Corinthians 11: 14-15. All these accusations for global peace can be summarized within God’s words found in, Jeremiah 7:18, 44: 17-25, Ezekiel 8:14. These all go back to the Queen of Heaven found worshipped in Mesopotamia.
The apparition of Mary has told her followers to erect statues, shrines, and idols to venerate her, worship her, and to pray to her to remind everyone the importance of her role and presence within the Catholic Church. In 431 AD the Church proclaimed Mary Mother of God, just one example of the forty unscriptural doctrines that church practices and adheres to. In 1854 she was named the Queen and Gate to Heaven. How does this contradict the very simple and true words found in the scriptures? Deuteronomy 4:14-19 No idols, no statues, no heavenly wonders are to be worshipped. Isaiah 42:8 God will give His Glory to no one. Furthermore, the apparition of Mary has made the claims as sinless, an immaculate conception, and should be seen as the bright and morning star, because she will crush the serpent. The church followed her lead and in 553 AD claimed her perpetual virgin and immaculate conception, and in 1854 sinless. The following scripture passages must be read and noted, 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan is an angel of Light. Romans 3:23 we are all sinners. Isaiah 42:8 God will give His Glory to no one. Isaiah 44:6 God is the first and the last, beside God there is no other.
The apparition of Mary says she has been sent to save the world, and she alone can and will redeem us as she is the ‘ark of salvation’. In 1950 the Roman Catholic Church declared Mary the ‘Ark in Heaven’. 1 Peter 1:18-19 Jesus is our redeemer. John 15 Jesus only. Luke 1:38 Mary says she is the Lord’s servant. Acts 4:11-12 Jesus Only. Hosea 13:4 God only. The apparition of Mary says she atones for our sins, suffers for us as her heart is found within Christ’s heart, and in 1950 the Roman Catholic Church proclaimed Mary had gone to Heaven as Jesus had, known as the assumption of Mary. John 19:30 Jesus said, “It is finished.” 1 Peter 3:18 Christ suffered once and for all. Hebrews 10:12-14, 18 One sacrifice, no longer any suffering.
As you can see this apparition clearly has not stayed true to the words of God, and thus has to be tried as false, and rather the angel of Satan. She has time and time again went against the very words of God as reflected in the above passages, but there is many more references that can be found. Babylon the Mystery as once again Satan has fooled so many believers that are quick to follow before they question the intentions and truths to such accusations. Are there any churches today that live up to word of God? Clearly someone can see similarites of the apparition of Mary, and the Queen of the Heavens Nammu, the goddess credited with the entire universe.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift




yes, there is a church today that lives up to the word of God

they are known as the "firstfruits"

and are a reference to those of Gods Election

that holy priesthood of the Levitical Priests of the Order of Melchizedek

those who are foreordained and predestined from before the dawn of this earth Age

to be born into this last generation

with purpose thereto and in

there won't be any question who is acceptable to the Lord

by the onset of the Millennium Age

in the meantime I suggest you go right on looking for someone to blame for the misery you endure on an ongoing basis in lieu of same

and not try to see the potential for good in much of anything

that'll earn you credit, I'm sure
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Revelation of John 17:5

In the Revelation of John 17:5 John refers to a woman as the abominations of earth, drunk from the blood of saints and from the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. When trying to decipher the meaning of what John is actually saying, many look at the clues found within the verses without giving proper thought to the idea or implications of what is actually being said; clues relating to the observable appearance of what this woman is dressed in. There is nothing wrong with this approach at all and it is natural for humans to form ideas based on the reality of the interaction of the physical world. However, the most important meaning is a mystery, hidden from most due to the power of our very own relationship with the physical world. That is, the pattern of thought that keeps us very dependent upon the two dimensional realities of the physical world.

John's reference is to Babylon, a very specific one at that and to properly understand one, first, has to start at the root within the Bible where Babylon is first mentioned. That root starts in Genesis as the beginnings of false worship are discussed when referenced to Nimrod. This can be seen is Gen 10: 8-10. All of the civilizations found within the area known as the Fertile Crescent worshiped Gods based on rites of fertility, and the Sun. This can be seen in Jeremiah 7:18, 44:17-19, 25. Even today as many people celebrate Easter the origins of Easter are wholly unknown, yet can be traced to the exchanging of Ishtar eggs. As history progressed a dominant goddess was established, that goddess being Inanna or known better as Nammu the Queen of the Heaven, and depicted as the moon goddess as her crescent was placed above all gods on the register. In Sumerian times, Babylonian, the origin of the universe was due to Nammu, and one of the goddess she birthed was the moon goddess Sin. Nammu was a considered a virgin as well.

How does this relate with the current times and the most dominant form of Christianity, Catholicism? Over the past century there have been many claims and reports of the Mary apparition appearing before many people and performing many miracles. This is all well documented and observed by many. The great signs, wonders, and miracles that this apparition is accredited with caused the Catholic Church to officially dedicate the entire world to Mary in 2004. Their beliefs were that Mary would unite all religions, and bring about global peace, because Jesus is too controversial and divisive. The Roman Catholic Church has proclaimed Mary to be intercessor and in 1854, declared conqueror of death and evil. This is clearly repudiated in Hebrews 7:25 and 1 Timothy 2:5.
The apparition of Mary says she is the Queen of Heaven, Mother of God, Queen of Ages, and the Lady of all Nations. She has said when declared co-redemptorist of the church that she would be peace to all nations, and in 2005 The Roman Catholic Church declared her the Lady of All Nations. The following scripture passages that all relate to the end times clearly shows the problem with such doctrines of demons. 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3. Daniel 7:23, 8:25, 9:27. Revelations 6:1-4, 13:7-8, 17:18, and 18:3. 2 Timothy 3:13. Matthew 24:24. Galatians 1:8-9. 2 Corinthians 11: 14-15. All these accusations for global peace can be summarized within God’s words found in, Jeremiah 7:18, 44: 17-25, Ezekiel 8:14. These all go back to the Queen of Heaven found worshipped in Mesopotamia.
The apparition of Mary has told her followers to erect statues, shrines, and idols to venerate her, worship her, and to pray to her to remind everyone the importance of her role and presence within the Catholic Church. In 431 AD the Church proclaimed Mary Mother of God, just one example of the forty unscriptural doctrines that church practices and adheres to. In 1854 she was named the Queen and Gate to Heaven. How does this contradict the very simple and true words found in the scriptures? Deuteronomy 4:14-19 No idols, no statues, no heavenly wonders are to be worshipped. Isaiah 42:8 God will give His Glory to no one. Furthermore, the apparition of Mary has made the claims as sinless, an immaculate conception, and should be seen as the bright and morning star, because she will crush the serpent. The church followed her lead and in 553 AD claimed her perpetual virgin and immaculate conception, and in 1854 sinless. The following scripture passages must be read and noted, 2 Corinthians 11:14-15 Satan is an angel of Light. Romans 3:23 we are all sinners. Isaiah 42:8 God will give His Glory to no one. Isaiah 44:6 God is the first and the last, beside God there is no other.
The apparition of Mary says she has been sent to save the world, and she alone can and will redeem us as she is the ‘ark of salvation’. In 1950 the Roman Catholic Church declared Mary the ‘Ark in Heaven’. 1 Peter 1:18-19 Jesus is our redeemer. John 15 Jesus only. Luke 1:38 Mary says she is the Lord’s servant. Acts 4:11-12 Jesus Only. Hosea 13:4 God only. The apparition of Mary says she atones for our sins, suffers for us as her heart is found within Christ’s heart, and in 1950 the Roman Catholic Church proclaimed Mary had gone to Heaven as Jesus had, known as the assumption of Mary. John 19:30 Jesus said, “It is finished.” 1 Peter 3:18 Christ suffered once and for all. Hebrews 10:12-14, 18 One sacrifice, no longer any suffering.
As you can see this apparition clearly has not stayed true to the words of God, and thus has to be tried as false, and rather the angel of Satan. She has time and time again went against the very words of God as reflected in the above passages, but there is many more references that can be found. Babylon the Mystery as once again Satan has fooled so many believers that are quick to follow before they question the intentions and truths to such accusations. Are there any churches today that live up to word of God? Clearly someone can see similarites of the apparition of Mary, and the Queen of the Heavens Nammu, the goddess credited with the entire universe.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift






what do you mean "She has time and time again went against the Word of God?"

lol

if shes a myth then she isn't real, right?

and/or an apparition of satan as you inferred

how in hell can she have then done anything that you can lay blame upon, eh?

you can't have it both ways

for the record

but you can damn sure try...

as far as the whore of Babylon goes it is a reference to the entire Kingdom of Babel, confusion, the marketer of the world, the sensible, rational, logical mind follows suit with such... tree of the knowledge of good and evil

in fact, just a mind that seeks to lay blame on another is indulging in those effects of partaking of the tree of the knowledge of same

prior to such no guilt, blame, nor shame existed in the world

that was satans gift

one can never inherit the mysteries of God if they cling to their rational mindset

one has to put that beneath them if they ever wish to taste the perfect
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Again look at the doctrines within your own church these are all documented by the Catholic Church and see how it fits right into to what has been seen throughout history.

Mystery Babylon is the Catholic Church, sorry. Again you have to look back to see what is prophesied as Babylon.
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the fallen estate of the catholic church is indeed part of Babylon

but it stretches beyond the bounds of same in this day and age

widely

the New World Order Crew is right in there flush

with same
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Is Mary Christ? Is the earth Christ? Is Jesus Christ? Is the bible Christ? Am I Christ? I was truly saved when asked for a revealing of Christ through me and instantly I knew that my ideas about Christ given to me by the material world could not adequately explain only confirm the experience of Christ's seed within my heart. I am aware of the similarities between the spoken word and the written word.

op thanks for your expression of awareness
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Thank you. And yours too.
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in the end you will find that "Babylon"

consists of all those things that are unacceptable to God

hence are of satan and came into being after the fall

brought about by that abomination that he be

in full

even flesh is consider to be a sinful estate

and this fallen world a disgrace

which is why each must overcome both to enter the New Jerusalem

which will come down and reign during the Millennium
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There is a difference between Babylon and Mystery Babylon.

Babylon of course is America symbolized by New York City. Our destruction comes very soon, as a product of September 11, 2001 when our own leaders started a false war against the American People.

Has the West faired well since? No! Things will be wrapped up very soon and America falls very soon, in one decisive blow from God. Then the countries in Western Europe will go as well.

I completely agree with the NWO argument that you present. However, Babylon very very soon.

And as far as the Elect? I have been signed and sealed several years ago when it all happened back in 2005 and 2006.

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in the end you will find that "Babylon"

consists of all those things that are unacceptable to God

hence are of satan and came into being after the fall

brought about by that abomination that he be

in full

even flesh is consider to be a sinful estate

and this fallen world a disgrace

which is why each must overcome both to enter the New Jerusalem

which will come down and reign during the Millennium
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9291823


There is a difference between Babylon and Mystery Babylon.

Babylon of course is America symbolized by New York City. Our destruction comes very soon, as a product of September 11, 2001 when our own leaders started a false war against the American People.

Has the West faired well since? No! Things will be wrapped up very soon and America falls very soon, in one decisive blow from God. Then the countries in Western Europe will go as well.

I completely agree with the NWO argument that you present. However, Babylon very very soon.

And as far as the Elect? I have been signed and sealed several years ago when it all happened back in 2005 and 2006.
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no

the lost tribes of Israel dwell largely herein

unbeknownst to the many

who are of this tribe of Israel and have no knowledge of such

the reason this country has been blessed to be the superpower of superpowers is because it was built on trust and faith in God

he/it was on our money

in our constitution

salute to the flag, you name it

not like some athiest countries aka communist

not like our own leaders have turne of late to attempt

God is not a fool

He knows the difference between His lambs who dwell herein

and how they have suffered at the hands of their own countrymen who are the sycophants of satan

he will protect and defend His own

even if they are in the middle of an overwhelming scourge of satanists

and if you aren't aware of that perhaps you aren't one of them
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Whatever you say. I trust what has been given to me, and soon your eyes will witness the destruction of the America. What will you do then? Happens this year. Will you scorn God, or bring him Glory?
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What an utterly vile and godless association you just made to God and American money. Get thee out of my thread SATAN

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This thread not only scares me on a level, but it also gives me hope for the future of the israelites
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This thread not only scares me on a level, but it also gives me hope for the future of the israelites
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There is no need ever to fear if you have found the beginning before the end.

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“The Pope is of great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws. The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth...” — Lucius Ferraris, in “Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica”, Volume V, article on “Papa, Article II”, titled “Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility”, #30, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition.
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“O Mother of all men and women, and of all peoples, you who know all their sufferings and their hopes, you who have a mother's awareness of all the struggles between good and evil, between light and darkness, which afflict the modern world, accept the cry which we, moved by the Holy Spirit, address directly to your Heart. Embrace with the love of the Mother and Handmaid of the Lord, this human world of ours, which we entrust and consecrate to you, for we are full of concern for the earthly and eternal destiny of individuals and peoples.

In a special way we entrust and consecrate to you those individuals and nations which particularly need to be thus entrusted and consecrated.

‘We have recourse to your protection, holy Mother of God!' Despise not our petitions in our necessities”.

In entrusting to you, O Mother, the world, all individuals and peoples, we also entrust to you this very consecration of the world, placing it in your motherly Heart.

Immaculate Heart! Help us to conquer the menace of evil, which so easily takes root in the hearts of the people of today, and whose immeasurable effects already weigh down upon our modern world and seem to block the paths towards the future!

From famine and war, deliver us.

From nuclear war, from incalculable self-destruction, from every kind of war, deliver us.

From sins against the life of man from its very beginning, deliver us.

From hatred and from the demeaning of the dignity of the children of God, deliver us.

From every kind of injustice in the life of society, both national and international, deliver us.

From readiness to trample on the commandments of God, deliver us.

From attempts to stifle in human hearts the very truth of God, deliver us.

From the loss of awareness of good and evil, deliver us.

From sins against the Holy Spirit, deliver us, deliver us.

Accept, O Mother of Christ, this cry laden with the sufferings of all individual human beings, laden with the sufferings of whole societies.

Help us with the power of the Holy Spirit to conquer all sin: individual sin and the ‘sin of the world', sin in all its manifestations.

Let there be revealed, once more, in the history of the world the infinite saving power of the Redemption: the power of merciful Love! May it put a stop to evil! May it transform consciences! May your Immaculate Heart reveal for all the light of Hope!”

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I just happened to come across some notes from a dear brother some may remember as YahStoneMassive a while back.....here's a compilation of observations he sent me:

The evidence is overwhelming!
I mean overwhelming (I'm laughing in amazement)


1)Associated with a city built on seven hills
2)Blasphemes those who are in heaven (saying Elohim sent her)
3)Makes fire come down from heaven in view of men
4)has an image with a sword wound
5)her name means 'star of the sea'
6)she says she's the queen of heaven
7)she performs great signs and wonders that no man has even come close to.
8)she says she's the spouse of the holy spirit
9)asherah was the lady of the sea
10)her church has murdered 10's of millions
11)she asks for people to recite a sacred oath for possession even to their destruction (and people pray it!)
12)she's associated with graven images
13)she is telling the world that the messiah lives in a piece of bread
14)she appears with the moon at her feet like ashtoreth
15)she makes people say prayers in vain repetition
16)she is known as co mediator
17)she is known as co redeember
18)she is known as refuge of sinners
19)she says that she is spotless
20)she says that she ascended into heaven
21)appears with an infant (like Semiramis and Isis)
22)she is known as queen of the universe
23)she is asking her believers to wear a mark
24)she says that sins are committed against her immaculate heart
25)she calls for reparation for sin
26)she calls the mass a true sacrifice
27)she is known as "our lady of nations" (no longer will you be called queen of kingdoms)
28)claims to be the woman clothed in the sun
29)claims to be the new eve
30)give brown scapular to believers and says they will not see the fires of hell if they die wearing one.
31)preaches purgatory as a holding place to pay for your sins
33)she claims that she is our mother and we are her children
34)she claims to be the mother of 'god'
35)songs of praises are sang to her
36)says she is "forever virgin" just like Astarte wife of Baal
37)Is called "the gate of heaven"
38)as known as "virgin most wise"
39)known as our life our sweetness and our hope!



Look at the fulfillments of Revelation 13 (to a tee) and Revelation 17

and look how this entity is loved throughout the world and is like and in some cases replaced moshiac


13For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of Eloah: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.


What a great deception..everybody is dormant to this..but a few here...

halleluYAH
Love is like light. It is never constrained to its source; it shines on everything and tends to spread spontaneously, unless we block it! ~ Cosmic Swami
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Re: The Apparition of Mary, "Queen of Heaven"
Shamar,

That prayer which was recited is very appalling and reinforces the fact that the RCC does not worship God. They worship Mary, Idols, and Gods Son. They display dead corpses, at least the Egyptians had the respect to hide them, pray to dead saints, and wallow in the filth of false doctrines created by workers of, and Satan himself.

The RCC is the best and prime example of a global institution heralding ideas rooted deep within its dark Roman Pagan roots. Instead of being a light for the Gentiles they have closed the eyes of many enshrouding them in darkness.

Thank you for your contributions and helping fight this church of Satan.





GLP