The Apparition of Mary, "Queen of Heaven"

Please send a link, just mentioning that vile name and passing their Satanic houses is enough to make me want to vomit. Soon their priests and leaders will drown in their vomit of lies and false teachings. Very very soon!

The fault that runs East and west that is divided from north and south will be their direct payback from the all of God! Just north of Naples and south of Rome this fault will destroy the whore The Roman Catholic Church, very very soon.

It begins this year.

We are tobe known by how we love eachother..Christs words

there isnt much love in both your words..you say the name of Mary is enough to make you vomit? I would like to see you say that to Christs face. It is His Mother you are referring to.

His teachings are not to prove yopu are right or I am wrong..or viceversa. His teachings are an instrument to transform this world ..through love..into something pleasing to God
But He said his words would be used as a sword..

As you seem to be doing

You use His words of love..to sow hatred and strife dont you?

Thats not His Doctrine..that is not His message or His teachings

Your point is very shallow, and there is a difference between being tolerant and loving.

Again tell me how your church worships and on what days? And I will show you this is a direct violation of the words of God, and Jesus. It is really that simple.

The Kingdom is not gained by hating those that disagree with you.. but by loving them

Christ cured on sabbath to show that it is not the day that is important

You are lost in doctrine and fail to grasp the essence of the message which is love in my opinion

what is worse to hate his mother?
or to love her?

You know nothing of His teachings, because you do not follow His teachings, you follow the teachings of a whore church and men. If the truth hurts, well I am sorry. Again bring forth your ways, so I can show you that they are, indeed, wrong.

ON JANUARY 1, 1990, through Father Gobbi, Mary further stated: "I am the Mother of the Second Advent. I am preparing you for His new coming."5

The authors of The Thunder of Justice say, "As John the Baptist prepared the way for the first coming of Jesus, Mary prepares the way for His Second Coming.."6

Pope John Paul II in his recent encyclical Redemptoris Mater, speaks of Mary as the historical precursor of Christ. "The church has constantly been aware that Mary appeared on the horizon of salvation history before Christ."7 From this we can clearly see that Mary is acknowledged by Pope John Paul II as the precursor of Christ’s coming as was John the Baptist.

In the video entitled "What Mary says to the world," by Ted Flynn, author of the book The Thunder of Justice, he says: "As John the Baptist was the precursor of Christ in His first coming, in the same way Mary is the precursor of Christ in His Second Coming."

In the Pope’s encyclical mentioned above, he quotes a startling message that Mary gave to Father Gobbi on July 30, 1986, in which she said: "This is the moment for all to take refuge in me, because I am the Ark of the New Covenant. At the time of Noah, immediately before the flood, those whom the Lord had destined to survive His terrible chastisement entered into the Ark. In these your times, I am inviting all my beloved children to enter in the Ark of the New Covenant, which I have built in my Immaculate Heart for you that they may be assisted by me to carry the bloody burden of the great trial which precedes the coming of the day of the Lord."8

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Mary says: "The only weapons which will remain for you will be the rosary. Pray very much the prayers of the rosary. I alone am able to save you from calamities which approach. Those who place their confidence in me will be saved."18

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In a message dated September 8, 1989, to the Marian Movement of Priests, Mary explained about the mark of the beast, she says,: "If my Adversary is signing, with his mark, all his followers, the time has come when I also your heavenly leader am signing, with my motherly seal, all those who have consecrated themselves to my Immaculate Heart and have formed part of my army."10

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Once again you fail to see what I have said, I hate the church which is an institution. I do not hate their followers.

You think we will be condemned because we go to church on Sunday instead of Saturday?
You think we will be condemned for loving Mary and praying to Her?


God is not a fool. Men are fools and pretend that God is made according to their image

We are free to follow our beliefs. We do not foirce you to follow ours. You should respect our choice. We harm no one.

We Love Mary, and nothing you will say will ever change that. She is His Mother. She suffered seeing what was done to Him..in silence. For that and much more we honor Her and Love Her.

If you do not like that accept that it is our choice.

let God judge us..because you certainly have no right to.

Does it not say to pray to God, and God alone?have you heard honor thy father and mother? Have you heard that Jesus came to fulfill the laws of His father, and not change, because Jesus was honoring his father.

Have you not heard of these things? Of course not because your church does not want to talk about the truth.

You shouldn't bow down before any image at all. You only bow to God.

You only pray to God.

And yes you will fall into the pit because you walk the wide path.

Concern yourself not with me..but look at where you step yourself

As to praying to Her..we ask for Her intercession

As at the wedding of Canaa she asked Christ to help and perform the miracle turning water into wine. It was not yet His time yet to please Her He did this. She interceded and He granted the miracle.

And again if we are wrong..whats it to you? Why concern yourself?

Let us follow our path and beliefs.

As a Catholic I believe in the many miracles granted through the powerf of Her intercession.

You are free not to believe..I do

Your post is so full of incorrect and misleading information, I can't respond to it all. What apparition of Mary are you referring to? There are hundreds, if not thousands, reported across the globe. The Catholic church has only approved a handful of these apparitions.

If you really want to know what the Catholic church actually teaches about Revelation and about Mary, why don't you look to the Catechism instead of relying on outside disinformation agents?

Do you even know what an intercessor is? Do you even know what the 'Communion of Saints' is? Catholics do not worship or idolize Mary. They regard her as a loving mother, just as Jesus taught:

"When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, 'Woman, behold your son.' Then he said to the disciple, 'Behold your mother.' And from that hour the disciple took her into his home." John 19:26-27. You think these words made the Book of John, the pinnacle of the Gospels, because Jesus, the son of God, was concerned nobody would take care of his mother?

Mary was born without sin - if she had been a sinful person, how could she possibly have carried in her womb the perfect, sinless and divine Jesus? He had to be born perfect - unsoiled by the sin and evil of this world.

Catholics honor Mary's purity and her complete abandonment to the will of God. This is not idolatry - we don't worship Mary, we ask her to pray for us because she is so beloved by the Father and by Jesus. How can you dishonor Jesus by loving his mother - whose entire existence was dedicated to giving glory and honor to the Father and the Son? It's impossible! We pray to Mary only asking her to pray on our behalf - we do not worship her. We only worship the Triune God (Father, son and Holy Spirit.) All glory and honor belongs to God alone - this is VERY clear in Catholic theology.

That said, Mary clearly has an integral role in God's plan. If you notice above, in the book of John, when Jesus refers to his mother, he uses the word 'Woman' and 'Woman' is capitalized. This conjures up and refers back to the 'Woman' in Genesis - "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers, they will strike at your head while you strike at their heel." Genesis 3:15. Mary's complete abandonment to the will of God as well as her purity and her absence of sin are the antidotes to evil in this world. Why should her example not be held up for us to emulate?

Back to the apparitions - it is possible, in fact, very likely, that a large number of these apparitions are either fake or demonic in nature - a trick of the enemy. This is why it is imperative that the faithful should treat any apparition that has not been investigated and approved by the Church. And the Church is very clear on this point.

Are you anti-Christian, or just anti-Catholic?

Great response to this thread. You know this is all a part of the plan...

Eve was seduced into sin by satan, God deemed the world to be redeemed by a woman in return, through Mary giving birth to His Son. Mary was not just any "woman" as she is called "Blessed among women", "Full of Grace".
And least we all forget, She is "IMMACULATE" BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT SIN CANNOT INTERMINGLE WITH WHAT IS PURE, AND HOLY AS GOD IS IN THE PERSON OF "CHRIST", OUR REDEEMER.

THAT IS A FACT.
Why do people not see that God chose the Immaculate Mary to preserve for His Son to be born from??? He made Adam and Eve to be free from sin and because they were sinless, He walked with them. They sinned and the sin separated them from Him. So right there we see that HOLINESS cannot abide in OR WITH SIN.

Satan hates Mary for bringing forth Jesus Christ, the Redeemer of mankind. Her "yes" began the process of saving souls. We were hell bound before she said "yes".

Most do not want to really understand her part in this process called redemption. Most agree that Eve was the reason why the human race fell. Well, God had a way out of hell for His children through the Mother of Christ. Mary, most virgin.
Lust is a sin. We all arive in this world having been conceived in the sin of "lust". Lust is made sacred through the act of Marriage. Marriage is God's way of making what was a sin a sacrament and sanctified in His eyes.
So, Christ was not born from the "sin" of lust. He was born from purity. From a special virgin.

Those who continue to curse Christ's Mother might better give this another good study.
Mary is honored as the Mother of Christ, who is God in the second person of the Trinity. Therefore she IS the Mother of God in the person of Jesus Christ.

Great response to this thread. You know this is all a part of the plan...for satan to cause as many as he can to hate Christ's Mother, Mary and for good reason.....See,

Eve was seduced into sin by satan, God deemed the world to be redeemed by a woman in return, through Mary giving birth to His Son. Mary was not just any "woman" as she is called "Blessed among women", "Full of Grace".
And least we all forget, She is "IMMACULATE" BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT SIN CANNOT INTERMINGLE WITH WHAT IS PURE, AND HOLY AS GOD IS IN THE PERSON OF "CHRIST", OUR REDEEMER.

THAT IS A FACT.
Why do people not see that God chose the Immaculate Mary to preserve for His Son to be born from??? He made Adam and Eve to be free from sin and because they were sinless, He walked with them. They sinned and the sin separated them from Him. So right there we see that HOLINESS cannot abide in OR WITH SIN.

Satan hates Mary for bringing forth Jesus Christ, the Redeemer of mankind. Her "yes" began the process of saving souls. We were hell bound before she said "yes".

Most do not want to really understand her part in this process called redemption. Most agree that Eve was the reason why the human race fell. Well, God had a way out of hell for His children through the Mother of Christ. Mary, most virgin.
Lust is a sin. We all arive in this world having been conceived in the sin of "lust". Lust is made sacred through the act of Marriage. Marriage is God's way of making what was a sin a sacrament and sanctified in His eyes.
So, Christ was not born from the "sin" of lust. He was born from purity. From a special virgin.

Those who continue to curse Christ's Mother might better give this another good study.
Mary is honored as the Mother of Christ, who is God in the second person of the Trinity. Therefore she IS the Mother of God in the person of Jesus Christ.

*Mary* said: "If my Adversary is signing, with his mark, all his followers, the time has come when I also your heavenly leader am signing, with my motherly seal, all those who have consecrated themselves to my Immaculate Heart and have formed part of my army."


Errr...... that is not quite what the scriptures say. Ezekiel 9: "And AHYH said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of men that sigh and that cry over all the abominations that are done in the midst thereof, And to the others he said in my hearing, Go ye through the city after him, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity; slay utterly the old man, the young man and the virgin, and little children and women; but come not near any man upon whom is the mark: and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began with the old men that were before the house. And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and smote in the city."

The above verse is speaking of the mark of AHYH which is put on the righteous. The mark of the beast is a direct counterfeit of this mark

Truth doesn't matter Shamar, just as prophesied By Gods chosen prophets. They wallow in the filth of the whore, and as the product in which they wallow they will be treated as the product, sons and daughters of Satan.

Should times be any different then when Jesus was here? Only when he departed did his message gain in traction, should it be any different now that the church age is ending?

History was happened and will once again happen again. What has happened in the old will happen in the new, as the new makes way for the old.

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Seems I left out a very important part, the Marian Apparition. Once again not Mary, but an angel of Light from none other then Satan.

So satan tells people to repent..not sin and to pray?

wow

So satan tells people to repent..not sin and to pray?

wow

The enemy draws people onto itself and away from the Most High. These marian apparitions draw people to *mary* by claiming to be co-redemtrix, by requesting people pray to her, to say the rosary, etc. ad nauseum.

The visions do nothing to point to the Father.

Usually when anothers beliefs are attacked..ad nauseam..it is not because the "attacker" believes these beliefs are wrong..but because he is afraid.. that they are right

I presented facts based on the only truth, the word of God, and I was attacked for it, ok.