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People today have been conditioned to only accept information they have been told is true. Anyone who thinks outside the box is labelled a conspiracy theorist or a crazy person.

When you look at how the media portray people with a different view and look closely at the wording you will clearly see the programming in action.

CNN recently caught wind of a person who was questioning how the media handled a tragedy. Look at how it was worded before they actually start talking about his claims...

“We begin with a story that is hard to believe. You will want to sit down for this one”, “there are always conspiracy theorists lurking online who come up with horrifically outrageous claims. Normally we would not dignify these claims with air-time. These claims are obviously sickening to many...”. “It turns out one of the people peddling these conspiracy theories...”.

If you watch the media carefully you' ll notice this pattern of portrayal, i.e. loathing, seedy, basement dwelling crazy people is repeated any time a different theory is mentioned. They build up a huge amount of loathing and disbelief so the viewer is already in the mindset it is unpatriotic, disturbing or disgusting... even when the evidence (or lack of it) is indisputable.

The media has never and will never take a neutral stance when anyone goes against the version they tell. This is exactly the same in science and religion. Why such demonisation for people who question? If what they say is not true just dazzle them with evidence contraindicating theirs.

Do you believe that everything you've ever been told about our history (ancient and modern) is 100% accurate and true? Do you believe there is NOTHING that has ever been kept back?

Would it surprise you that in our ancient history virtually every single religion and ancient text, going back some 60,000 years, all talk about the same type of thing? Would it surprise you that there are over 150 records of the great flood? Would it surprise you that if you draw straight lines around earth from major ancient structures like the Great Pyramids it will also include many other ancient monuments and places of importance?

Did you know there are many ancient artifacts, hieroglyphs, tablets and cuneiforms that show things we have only recently discovered like sacred geometry, cymatics, biology, chemistry and more? Did you know the great pyramid was built using Pi and the golden ratio?

Why is our ancient history never taught in schools? Yes they go back some of the way but even with Egypt they only talk about the simplest of things. Why are the Sumerian and Mayan civilisations, which were in some ways more advanced than we are today, never spoken about?

What is this world all about?

What is the number one thing that drives humanity? FEAR!

Don't believe in the right God? you'll burn in hell. In the media they constantly instil fear into your life. Have you ever been in a terrorist attack, mugged, raped, stabbed, murdered :)?

Have you ever seen it with your own eyes? Yet we are to believe that there is a terrorist, mugger, rapist, murderer on almost every street corner. This whole World is built around FEAR to hide you from the truth.

I do not fear death and for the death of others I will be celebrating their life and not mourning their death because I have my own understanding of who we really are. We have been taught death should be feared. This could not be ANY FURTHER from the truth in my eyes! It is a fear-based system for a very good reason (Just like all the other fear instilled in our lives)!

Seriously, ask yourself; “WHY are we constantly bombarded with fear in every single aspect of our lives?”

While you're doing that ask yourself another question: “Why do we label everyone and then separate society into different sections so we never unite?”

Free-Thinking is not stupid, it is not crazy, it is not anti-evidence. Free Thinking is something that everyone should be doing. The planet is full of drones who blindly accept everything they are told and question nothing. If it's on TV it must be true... right?

The banality of the human race has reached new lows. Never before have answers been so available but never before has society had less interest in finding the answers to the biggest questions.

“The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free.”
-Baruch Spinoza

If you only read the books that everyone else is reading or watch the same shows that everyone else is watching, you can only THINK what everyone else is thinking.

Free-Thinking has been a crime many times in the past and it will be again. The answers need to stay hidden for society to remain where it is in this fear-driven, terror-driven, war-driven, money-driven system of slavery. We are in a prison but most cannot see.

A scene in the film The Matrix summed it up brilliantly...
Morpheus: "The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us, even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when you go to church, or when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth."

Neo: "What truth?"

Morpheus: "That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind."

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“The living being had no need of eyes because there was nothing outside of him to be seen; nor of ears because there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he created thus; his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form which was designed by him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.” -Plato
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It's kinda sad that this message will be only read on a forum where most people have wake up to the truth.

We as open-minded people have the duty to plant seeds on people to make them realize it.

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“The living being had no need of eyes because there was nothing outside of him to be seen; nor of ears because there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he created thus; his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form which was designed by him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.” -Plato
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It's kinda sad that this message will be only read on a forum where most people have wake up to the truth.

We as open-minded people have the duty to plant seeds on people to make them realize it.
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I agree. I wrote this a while ago and just wanted a record of it. The issue is that most do not want to think for themselves and I don't believe I should be forcing anything on others.

I am just sad that TV (mostly the media) have such a tight hold on humanity. More so because answers to many questions have never, in history, been this easy to find.
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It's kinda sad that this message will be only read on a forum where most people have wake up to the truth.

We as open-minded people have the duty to plant seeds on people to make them realize it.
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I agree. I wrote this a while ago and just wanted a record of it. The issue is that most do not want to think for themselves and I don't believe I should be forcing anything on others.

I am just sad that TV (mostly the media) have such a tight hold on humanity. More so because answers to many questions have never, in history, been this easy to find.
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Yeah I have found that forcing our mindset on other people doesn't work. I think the effective way to do it is by how I said earlier, 'planting seeds'.

Just think of a coherent quote or short statement that makes sense and if you can add a clear example of how it's true.

Perhaps they won't realize it immediately but it will surely eco in their minds when they find an inconsistency or conflict.

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“The living being had no need of eyes because there was nothing outside of him to be seen; nor of ears because there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he created thus; his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form which was designed by him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.” -Plato
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It's kinda sad that this message will be only read on a forum where most people have wake up to the truth.

We as open-minded people have the duty to plant seeds on people to make them realize it.
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


I agree. I wrote this a while ago and just wanted a record of it. The issue is that most do not want to think for themselves and I don't believe I should be forcing anything on others.

I am just sad that TV (mostly the media) have such a tight hold on humanity. More so because answers to many questions have never, in history, been this easy to find.
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The answers really are so easy to find now, but it takes time to put them together & paint the picture of the truth that people can understand. It's sooo complex that's its almost actually simple, but our minds have been trained to see/think a certain way ... Does humanity have enough time to save itself??? Or are there far too many people who are too closed minded to even have a chance at a REAL change???
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Something I just thought about .... You know you hear people say all the time that when a criminal WANTS to get caught, they tend to be more open, leaving clues behind as to who they are .... Is this the end of the road for the "criminals". Do they know that more & more people are waking up, and they won't be able to hide anymore?

I read somewhere that TPTB wouldn't ever let their secrets be known until its too late. Until there's no turning back, and their operation is unstoppable. ... Are they bluffing??

Have they really lost their battle? So now they just want to bring everyone down with their sinking ship??

You know God will not allow us to destroy his creation, and that is just about what we've done. Destroyed it beyond repair .... He has no choice but to step in soon......
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Much like the MSM calling the brothers deranged, lunatics, insane, etc., before they were even apprehended and questioned. I do not see the MSM calling the Obama Administration the same for killing innocent men, women & children with drones and then lying and hiding evidence of their crimes. Who are the "real" deranged ones?
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The answers really are so easy to find now, but it takes time to put them together & paint the picture of the truth that people can understand. It's sooo complex that's its almost actually simple, but our minds have been trained to see/think a certain way ...
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I absolutely agree with that!
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People today have been conditioned to only accept information they have been told is true. Anyone who thinks outside the box is labelled a conspiracy theorist or a crazy person.

When you look at how the media portray people with a different view and look closely at the wording you will clearly see the programming in action.

CNN recently caught wind of a person who was questioning how the media handled a tragedy. Look at how it was worded before they actually start talking about his claims...

“We begin with a story that is hard to believe. You will want to sit down for this one”, “there are always conspiracy theorists lurking online who come up with horrifically outrageous claims. Normally we would not dignify these claims with air-time. These claims are obviously sickening to many...”. “It turns out one of the people peddling these conspiracy theories...”.

If you watch the media carefully you' ll notice this pattern of portrayal, i.e. loathing, seedy, basement dwelling crazy people is repeated any time a different theory is mentioned. They build up a huge amount of loathing and disbelief so the viewer is already in the mindset it is unpatriotic, disturbing or disgusting... even when the evidence (or lack of it) is indisputable.

The media has never and will never take a neutral stance when anyone goes against the version they tell. This is exactly the same in science and religion. Why such demonisation for people who question? If what they say is not true just dazzle them with evidence contraindicating theirs.

Do you believe that everything you've ever been told about our history (ancient and modern) is 100% accurate and true? Do you believe there is NOTHING that has ever been kept back?

Would it surprise you that in our ancient history virtually every single religion and ancient text, going back some 60,000 years, all talk about the same type of thing? Would it surprise you that there are over 150 records of the great flood? Would it surprise you that if you draw straight lines around earth from major ancient structures like the Great Pyramids it will also include many other ancient monuments and places of importance?

Did you know there are many ancient artifacts, hieroglyphs, tablets and cuneiforms that show things we have only recently discovered like sacred geometry, cymatics, biology, chemistry and more? Did you know the great pyramid was built using Pi and the golden ratio?

Why is our ancient history never taught in schools? Yes they go back some of the way but even with Egypt they only talk about the simplest of things. Why are the Sumerian and Mayan civilisations, which were in some ways more advanced than we are today, never spoken about?

What is this world all about?

What is the number one thing that drives humanity? FEAR!

Don't believe in the right God? you'll burn in hell. In the media they constantly instil fear into your life. Have you ever been in a terrorist attack, mugged, raped, stabbed, murdered :)?

Have you ever seen it with your own eyes? Yet we are to believe that there is a terrorist, mugger, rapist, murderer on almost every street corner. This whole World is built around FEAR to hide you from the truth.

I do not fear death and for the death of others I will be celebrating their life and not mourning their death because I have my own understanding of who we really are. We have been taught death should be feared. This could not be ANY FURTHER from the truth in my eyes! It is a fear-based system for a very good reason (Just like all the other fear instilled in our lives)!

Seriously, ask yourself; “WHY are we constantly bombarded with fear in every single aspect of our lives?”

While you're doing that ask yourself another question: “Why do we label everyone and then separate society into different sections so we never unite?”

Free-Thinking is not stupid, it is not crazy, it is not anti-evidence. Free Thinking is something that everyone should be doing. The planet is full of drones who blindly accept everything they are told and question nothing. If it's on TV it must be true... right?

The banality of the human race has reached new lows. Never before have answers been so available but never before has society had less interest in finding the answers to the biggest questions.

“The highest activity a human being can attain is learning for understanding, because to understand is to be free.”
-Baruch Spinoza

If you only read the books that everyone else is reading or watch the same shows that everyone else is watching, you can only THINK what everyone else is thinking.

Free-Thinking has been a crime many times in the past and it will be again. The answers need to stay hidden for society to remain where it is in this fear-driven, terror-driven, war-driven, money-driven system of slavery. We are in a prison but most cannot see.

A scene in the film The Matrix summed it up brilliantly...
Morpheus: "The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us, even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window, or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work, or when you go to church, or when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes, to blind you from the truth."

Neo: "What truth?"

Morpheus: "That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else, you were born into bondage, born inside a prison that you cannot smell, taste, or touch. A prison for your mind."
 Quoting: WeAreOne


Agreed totally, he who rules by fear shall be king.

It's a shame that so many so called 'awakened' people are still only following the herd......just a different herd......
We are not children of celestial fuckin' light, walkin' arm-in-arm into the Age of Aquarius. We are wankers who wreck the planet an' piss on each other, 'til half the world's starvin' an' the other half's busy findin' new ways to keep from noticin' it. That's the fuckin' limit've our potential, believe me.
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What I've ALWAYS found is that people who call themselves free-thinkers are invariably the most closed-minded individuals I've ever met.
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What I've ALWAYS found is that people who call themselves free-thinkers are invariably the most closed-minded individuals I've ever met.
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Then my friend they are not free-thinkers in the true sense.

I openly admit I know nothing and I have no firm belief so I can change my views as new research arises. The "free" part of free thinkers is having nothing blocking new research or evidence.

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As Nietzsche wrote: "The quickest way of corrupting a youth is to teach him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently."

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It's all HYPNOTISM and the MSM are masters at it.
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Something I just thought about .... You know you hear people say all the time that when a criminal WANTS to get caught, they tend to be more open, leaving clues behind as to who they are .... Is this the end of the road for the "criminals". Do they know that more & more people are waking up, and they won't be able to hide anymore?

I read somewhere that TPTB wouldn't ever let their secrets be known until its too late. Until there's no turning back, and their operation is unstoppable. ... Are they bluffing??

Have they really lost their battle? So now they just want to bring everyone down with their sinking ship??

You know God will not allow us to destroy his creation, and that is just about what we've done. Destroyed it beyond repair .... He has no choice but to step in soon......
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I agree with most of your statement, however we, the people, have not destroyed God's Creation. "They" have destroyed it, and are now perhaps in their death throes. I hope.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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To think, or not to think, that is the question.

There are two critical aspects to making a decision - the extent of the facts that of necessity must be known to make a decision and the level of proof of those facts.

People are taught to be knee-jerk reactionaries. Once a scenario is given to them by MSM as facts, they are impliedly asked to make a conclusion of guilt or innocence. Invariably, the scenario never contains all the facts, and the immediate knee-jerk reaction will be made. It is rare, but I love it when a set of "facts" is presented and the sheeple immediately respond "guilty"! "Off with their heads"! And, then shortly later, new facts are presented that demonstrate innocence. The dilemma is often overwhelming for the sheeple. One part of their brain knows right from wrong, but the other part, the conditioned part, can't make the call of not guilty. That's why the American jurisprudence system of jury trials is so fraught with error. The jury of one's peers has been trained to be knee-jerk reactionaries who believe what their masters in the government tell them. (A more perfect system may be professional juries.)

When MSM tell the sheeple a set of "facts", and impliedly or directly expect the sheeple to reach a shared conclusion of guilt, the sheeple never ask the question of "What the limits of the facts necessary to make a conclusion of guilt?". No sheeple ever screams at the TV and says - "Hey, not enough facts here - give me more - I need to know about x, y and z before I can conclude the person is guilty!"

Scientists have been corrupted in a similar way in that scientists, in arriving at a conclusion, often turn speculative evidence into absolute truth. No one remembers that "truth" is an abstract, and that there are different levels of truth - for instance, in the American legal system, there are levels of truth, in a hierarchy of greater confidence in the evidence:

1) a "hunch" (not sufficient for a cop to stop someone and frisk them;
2) a "reasonable suspicion" (more than a hunch, but not certain - enough for a cop to search);
3) a "preponderance of the evidence" - it is more likely than not likely something is true. That's to say, there is more than a 50% chance something is true. Enough to win a civil case. It still could be not true, but you get to win your case.
4) "clear and convincing" evidence - more than a preponderance, but less than the next one. Enough for the government to take your kid away from you.
5) "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" - that's not all doubt, but just what you'd call reasonable doubt. This is the standard by which criminals are convicted.
6) "beyond all doubt" - not a legal standard in America.

Scientists are subject to funding issues - and if they don't present their findings in conformity with The Powers That Be, they won't get funding. So, often the facts upon which their findings are made are not vetted out by a hierarchy of proof of truth and conclusions are made to conform to the commonly accepted standard model. For instance, OOPARTS have not been properly addressed by the Archeological community because the history of man is supposedly very recent. OOPARTS demonstrating that man may have been on this planet for millions of years is not accepted, thus the OOPARTS are ignored for to do otherwise would challenge the "factual" conclusions in the currently accepted model of the history of man.

So, the question is, To Think, Or Not To Think.
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Something I just thought about .... You know you hear people say all the time that when a criminal WANTS to get caught, they tend to be more open, leaving clues behind as to who they are .... Is this the end of the road for the "criminals". Do they know that more & more people are waking up, and they won't be able to hide anymore?

I read somewhere that TPTB wouldn't ever let their secrets be known until its too late. Until there's no turning back, and their operation is unstoppable. ... Are they bluffing??

Have they really lost their battle? So now they just want to bring everyone down with their sinking ship??

You know God will not allow us to destroy his creation, and that is just about what we've done. Destroyed it beyond repair .... He has no choice but to step in soon......
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I agree with most of your statement, however we, the people, have not destroyed God's Creation. "They" have destroyed it, and are now perhaps in their death throes. I hope.
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Yes, their ideas destroyed it, but man has to take responsibility at some point.

I'm a fucked up individual, and I would love nothing more than to say, "ahhh its okay, because I was under the influence" but no, its not okay.

Very rarely do you meet a road without a fork in it. Every living being ultimately makes his own choices .... Do I believe in mind control, yes. Do I believe in evil, yes ... Do I feel the presence of both, sometimes, yes! But never has either put a gun to my head AND pulled the trigger.
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As Nietzsche wrote: "The quickest way of corrupting a youth is to teach him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently."

Michael
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I also hear a lot lately: "I'll see what the experts have to say about that [insert controversial subject] first."

Group-thinking sheep automatically defer to authority. This starts very young in public school indoctrination systems.
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Agreed!
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Something I just thought about .... You know you hear people say all the time that when a criminal WANTS to get caught, they tend to be more open, leaving clues behind as to who they are .... Is this the end of the road for the "criminals". Do they know that more & more people are waking up, and they won't be able to hide anymore?

I read somewhere that TPTB wouldn't ever let their secrets be known until its too late. Until there's no turning back, and their operation is unstoppable. ... Are they bluffing??

Have they really lost their battle? So now they just want to bring everyone down with their sinking ship??

You know God will not allow us to destroy his creation, and that is just about what we've done. Destroyed it beyond repair .... He has no choice but to step in soon......
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Good post. It does seem that in the last few major events, there have been very obvious errors. So obvious that many of us have thought they were done on purpose.
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Great post, OP.

I think it gets harder and harder to plant those seeds though. :(
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Something I just thought about .... You know you hear people say all the time that when a criminal WANTS to get caught, they tend to be more open, leaving clues behind as to who they are .... Is this the end of the road for the "criminals". Do they know that more & more people are waking up, and they won't be able to hide anymore?

I read somewhere that TPTB wouldn't ever let their secrets be known until its too late. Until there's no turning back, and their operation is unstoppable. ... Are they bluffing??

Have they really lost their battle? So now they just want to bring everyone down with their sinking ship??

You know God will not allow us to destroy his creation, and that is just about what we've done. Destroyed it beyond repair .... He has no choice but to step in soon......
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Good post. It does seem that in the last few major events, there have been very obvious errors. So obvious that many of us have thought they were done on purpose.
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And I think that's the case, but unlike the post you quoted, in my opinion they are basically saying 'Hey we have enslaved you so much that it doesn't matter if we tell you about it, you will not believe us anyway'.

And there's little we can do to change that...
“The living being had no need of eyes because there was nothing outside of him to be seen; nor of ears because there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he created thus; his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form which was designed by him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.” -Plato
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"Don't let schooling interfere with your education." - Mark Twain

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This should be plastered on every street corner.
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Re: Free-thinking... ridiculed by people who will never think for themselves.
Something I just thought about .... You know you hear people say all the time that when a criminal WANTS to get caught, they tend to be more open, leaving clues behind as to who they are .... Is this the end of the road for the "criminals". Do they know that more & more people are waking up, and they won't be able to hide anymore?

I read somewhere that TPTB wouldn't ever let their secrets be known until its too late. Until there's no turning back, and their operation is unstoppable. ... Are they bluffing??

Have they really lost their battle? So now they just want to bring everyone down with their sinking ship??

You know God will not allow us to destroy his creation, and that is just about what we've done. Destroyed it beyond repair .... He has no choice but to step in soon......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38526847


Good post. It does seem that in the last few major events, there have been very obvious errors. So obvious that many of us have thought they were done on purpose.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


And I think that's the case, but unlike the post you quoted, in my opinion they are basically saying 'Hey we have enslaved you so much that it doesn't matter if we tell you about it, you will not believe us anyway'.

And there's little we can do to change that...
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


To a point yes, but look at the bigger picture. They have completed what they were sent out to do. Sheeps like the rest of us. Now what??? There IS a next step. But its up to man to stand up, take blame, and fix what we ALLOWED to happen, and contributed to!
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Something I just thought about .... You know you hear people say all the time that when a criminal WANTS to get caught, they tend to be more open, leaving clues behind as to who they are .... Is this the end of the road for the "criminals". Do they know that more & more people are waking up, and they won't be able to hide anymore?

I read somewhere that TPTB wouldn't ever let their secrets be known until its too late. Until there's no turning back, and their operation is unstoppable. ... Are they bluffing??

Have they really lost their battle? So now they just want to bring everyone down with their sinking ship??

You know God will not allow us to destroy his creation, and that is just about what we've done. Destroyed it beyond repair .... He has no choice but to step in soon......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38526847


Good post. It does seem that in the last few major events, there have been very obvious errors. So obvious that many of us have thought they were done on purpose.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


And I think that's the case, but unlike the post you quoted, in my opinion they are basically saying 'Hey we have enslaved you so much that it doesn't matter if we tell you about it, you will not believe us anyway'.

And there's little we can do to change that...
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


True for some, but sadly, most people do believe them. I think it's just recently when they're actually starting to realize that there is a growing number who don't. I think it might also be, especially lately with some attention being given by MSM to "conspiracy theorists," that because they know there's nothing much we can do, they blatantly throw out the inconsistencies, just to rub it in our faces. Like, "Here you go. Some of you know we're lying, here's a tease to prove you're right. Now, what are you going to do about it?" They know there's not all that much we can do. It's all one great big game to them.
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I think it's an attempt to separate the wheat from the chaff. Where is the future of mankind headed and what type of people would be most beneficial to society?

Herd mentality worker drones can be replaced with robotics but human creativity and compassion can not.
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bump..... hf
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When I tell people I haven't had cable for 5 years, they look at me like I don't have a head.
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As Nietzsche wrote: "The quickest way of corrupting a youth is to teach him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently."

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But Nietzsche, OTOH, was a very good channel for Ahriman as, as Rudolf Steiner mentioned, Nietzsche's "Ecce Homo" was in fact written by Ahriman.
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Something I just thought about .... You know you hear people say all the time that when a criminal WANTS to get caught, they tend to be more open, leaving clues behind as to who they are .... Is this the end of the road for the "criminals". Do they know that more & more people are waking up, and they won't be able to hide anymore?

I read somewhere that TPTB wouldn't ever let their secrets be known until its too late. Until there's no turning back, and their operation is unstoppable. ... Are they bluffing??

Have they really lost their battle? So now they just want to bring everyone down with their sinking ship??

You know God will not allow us to destroy his creation, and that is just about what we've done. Destroyed it beyond repair .... He has no choice but to step in soon......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38526847


Good post. It does seem that in the last few major events, there have been very obvious errors. So obvious that many of us have thought they were done on purpose.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


And I think that's the case, but unlike the post you quoted, in my opinion they are basically saying 'Hey we have enslaved you so much that it doesn't matter if we tell you about it, you will not believe us anyway'.

And there's little we can do to change that...
 Quoting: Ðisembodied~Mind


True for some, but sadly, most people do believe them. I think it's just recently when they're actually starting to realize that there is a growing number who don't. I think it might also be, especially lately with some attention being given by MSM to "conspiracy theorists," that because they know there's nothing much we can do, they blatantly throw out the inconsistencies, just to rub it in our faces. Like, "Here you go. Some of you know we're lying, here's a tease to prove you're right. Now, what are you going to do about it?" They know there's not all that much we can do. It's all one great big game to them.
 Quoting: AnonymousGirl


Indeed.
“The living being had no need of eyes because there was nothing outside of him to be seen; nor of ears because there was nothing to be heard; and there was no surrounding atmosphere to be breathed; nor would there have been any use of organs by the help of which he might receive his food or get rid of what he had already digested, since there was nothing which went from him or came into him: for there was nothing beside him. Of design he created thus; his own waste providing his own food, and all that he did or suffered taking place in and by himself. For the Creator conceived that a being which was self-sufficient would be far more excellent than one which lacked anything; and, as he had no need to take anything or defend himself against any one, the Creator did not think it necessary to bestow upon him hands: nor had he any need of feet, nor of the whole apparatus of walking; but the movement suited to his spherical form which was designed by him, being of all the seven that which is most appropriate to mind and intelligence; and he was made to move in the same manner and on the same spot, within his own limits revolving in a circle. All the other six motions were taken away from him, and he was made not to partake of their deviations. And as this circular movement required no feet, the universe was created without legs and without feet.” -Plato





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