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Message Subject Is Logic a Belief?
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Obviously, you have never read Karl Popper.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


No, never heard of him? I will look him up, I love stuff like this. Which book you mean exactly?
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Can't remember the title.

His ultimate conclusion: "The fundamental assumptions of any definitional system cannot be proven", or something to that effect.

The argument goes "If...then".

The "if" cannot be proven. It is assumed to be a given.

A radical over-simplification; but that's the gist.

Logic has to do with the fundamental structures of the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

But there are other approaches to reality; for example, poetry.

Poetry can never be proven.

Poetry approaches the issue of truth from a completely different perspective.

"The moon was a ghostly galleon, tossed upon cloudy seas" is, for example, a truth; but it cannot be proven, nevertheless.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Sort of like mathematics... you have your axioms as the basis. You cannot prove these "ifs"

See that's where it gets all trippy to my mind. because the axiom of logic is the assumption that logic is logic.

I don't know if i can write down the strange feeling it gives me in words when I think too hard about it.
 Quoting: numewenon


Right.

Popper was a mathematician first.

What you are experiencing is the transition between dimensions of consciousness; between the consciousness of the 'thinker' and the consciousness of the "self"; which can be summarized as the difference between science and logic and poetry and the lyrics of songs.

But there is another dimension of consciousness beyond these two dimensions as well:

[link to science-of-consciousness.blogspot.com]

Ultimately, the three dimensions of consciousness is neither a logical, nor a poetical description of reality; but, rather, something that can be directly observed.

Michael
 
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