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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540638 United States 04/11/2013 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1540638 Hmm yes. That would make sense. Does this make us a parisitic type of animal that is temporarily out of control? I don´t think humans are animals, depends on one´s beliefs though. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540638 United States 04/11/2013 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we are not animals then we would be meant to try to fight nature wouldn\\\'t we? We would not fit into the order of things very well would we? Quoting: numewenon Evolving is better than fighting. Is evolution not the result of a fight between two opposing forces? That´s revolution. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1540638 United States 04/11/2013 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we are not animals then we would be meant to try to fight nature wouldn\\\\\\\'t we? We would not fit into the order of things very well would we? Quoting: numewenon Evolving is better than fighting. Is evolution not the result of a fight between two opposing forces? That´s revolution. Evolution begins with one´s spirituality. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36555947 United States 04/11/2013 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ever been to a modern green house like they have in large cities. giant glass structures with an almost jungle paradise like atmosphere full of plant life and tropical birds and lizards.In an urban downtown surrounded by skyscrapers. the trick is to co-exist. Technology can be used to nurture nature, just like nature can be used to create free energy. We have to learn to do what is best for the compromise between man and nature. Not one or the other. |
numewenon
(OP) User ID: 25749597 Canada 04/11/2013 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If we are not animals then we would be meant to try to fight nature wouldn\\\'t we? We would not fit into the order of things very well would we? Quoting: numewenon Evolving is better than fighting. Is evolution not the result of a fight between two opposing forces? That´s revolution. pondering on this one for sure hmmmmmm |
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(OP) User ID: 25749597 Canada 04/11/2013 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ever been to a modern green house like they have in large cities. giant glass structures with an almost jungle paradise like atmosphere full of plant life and tropical birds and lizards.In an urban downtown surrounded by skyscrapers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36555947 the trick is to co-exist. Technology can be used to nurture nature, just like nature can be used to create free energy. We have to learn to do what is best for the compromise between man and nature. Not one or the other. Iike this. Friendly technology seems to be a solution. But can the jungle support the resorces that went itno making it? for example... all that glass, or polycarbonate? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 36555947 United States 04/11/2013 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ever been to a modern green house like they have in large cities. giant glass structures with an almost jungle paradise like atmosphere full of plant life and tropical birds and lizards.In an urban downtown surrounded by skyscrapers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36555947 the trick is to co-exist. Technology can be used to nurture nature, just like nature can be used to create free energy. We have to learn to do what is best for the compromise between man and nature. Not one or the other. Iike this. Friendly technology seems to be a solution. But can the jungle support the resorces that went itno making it? for example... all that glass, or polycarbonate? Ofcourse it can. just not all at once. Thats where humans come in. We have to slow consumption in order to build a solid foundation for a movement like this. We can plant more trees and use our resources more wisely. As a race we have to think in terms of a 50 or even 100yr timeline. We would have to do it for humanities future,not our own. A generation of us has to be selfless enough to realize we won't get to see it come to fruition our lifetime ans be okay with that. |
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(OP) User ID: 25749597 Canada 04/11/2013 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ever been to a modern green house like they have in large cities. giant glass structures with an almost jungle paradise like atmosphere full of plant life and tropical birds and lizards.In an urban downtown surrounded by skyscrapers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36555947 the trick is to co-exist. Technology can be used to nurture nature, just like nature can be used to create free energy. We have to learn to do what is best for the compromise between man and nature. Not one or the other. Iike this. Friendly technology seems to be a solution. But can the jungle support the resorces that went itno making it? for example... all that glass, or polycarbonate? Ofcourse it can. just not all at once. Thats where humans come in. We have to slow consumption in order to build a solid foundation for a movement like this. We can plant more trees and use our resources more wisely. As a race we have to think in terms of a 50 or even 100yr timeline. We would have to do it for humanities future,not our own. A generation of us has to be selfless enough to realize we won't get to see it come to fruition our lifetime ans be okay with that. Well I think you hit one nail on the head... Humans consume more than they need. They could slow consumption even with 7 billion of us. Look at all the fat people. No offence to anyone who has weight problems. Not your fault really... our shitty food is addictive. Think of all the corn grown for the completley useless cornsyrup. All that land, wasted for nothing. |
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(OP) User ID: 25749597 Canada 04/11/2013 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Master the natural way first. Then integrate technology with nature. My opinion... Quoting: Integrity101 Go into a forest, build a house according to the forest's rules. have all the technology you want so long as it does not upset the overall balance of the forest. I have a hope/beleif that all the technological feats we have accomplished can be done in accordance with nature/balance. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37330836 United States 04/11/2013 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We could design meat eating robots that will hunt you down and kill you and thereby test your mental and physical abilities. We could program so they are just the right intelligence, not too smart, not too fast. "From the file marked “Evidently, many scientists have never seen even one scary sci-fi movie”: The Defense Department is funding research into battlefield robots that power themselves by eating human corpses. What could possibly go wrong? Since they apparently don’t own TVs or DVD players, researchers at Robotic Technology say the robots will collect organic matter, which “could” include human corpses, to use for fuel. But if you picked up anything on flesh-eating robots over the years you know they’ll ignore that tasty soybean field and make a chow line right to the nearest dead body. And, if the machines can’t find enough dead people to eat, they can always make new ones." [link to www.wired.com] I guess you could argue that's what animals are, meat eating robots but they do not merely eat to be eating, they eat to live, not live to eat. Only humans live to eat. |
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(OP) User ID: 25749597 Canada 04/12/2013 06:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We could design meat eating robots that will hunt you down and kill you and thereby test your mental and physical abilities. We could program so they are just the right intelligence, not too smart, not too fast. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37330836 "From the file marked “Evidently, many scientists have never seen even one scary sci-fi movie”: The Defense Department is funding research into battlefield robots that power themselves by eating human corpses. What could possibly go wrong? Since they apparently don’t own TVs or DVD players, researchers at Robotic Technology say the robots will collect organic matter, which “could” include human corpses, to use for fuel. But if you picked up anything on flesh-eating robots over the years you know they’ll ignore that tasty soybean field and make a chow line right to the nearest dead body. And, if the machines can’t find enough dead people to eat, they can always make new ones." [link to www.wired.com] I guess you could argue that's what animals are, meat eating robots but they do not merely eat to be eating, they eat to live, not live to eat. Only humans live to eat. YIKES. I also wonder that. Have any of these scientists (and even politicians etc) pushing this sort of thing ever watched scifi? lol CRAZINESS |
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User ID: 11648979 Czechia 04/12/2013 06:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | same with the bird and his long pecker (developed over time), to get the worm from the depth of a tree thanks to material/tech we extend our options NOW are they ethical/moral ? who should say ? use or missuse ? where is the line ? moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds we make errors in between perception->relation->behaviour |
numewenon
(OP) User ID: 25749597 Canada 04/12/2013 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes a tool. and misused. but what is misuse? referring to an earlier poster, misuse would be an unbalanced expression of our nature. So is there a balanced technology? for example... an heirloom vegetable is a technology of genetic modification in one sense, but it is balanced in that it can get along with the flow of nature. a monsanto GMO crop is not in tune with the order. It is mis-used or unbalanced. If the overall tech (like today) seems to be unbalanced, then something will eventually balance it. the question is, will the balance be closer to nature, or will it be a new balance found in a higher tech sense... Like a whole new robotic ecosystem that can sustain itself. while not fighting "lower" forms of nature? |