Meditation: Universally accepted as something Great: Doctors, Jesus, Ghandi, Buddha, AMA

I hate when people think meditation gives you magic powers (I'm not talking about the skeptics only but also the doers). I don't believe in "chi". I do believe that meditation strengthens the mind to do some amazing things. Even if meditation is a bunch of bullshit, it still relieves stress and strengthens cognitive thinking. The mind is a powerful thing.

Why do u guys quote Gandhi?

Yea, I would say 2-3 weeks to start to see/feel changes. From there it depends on the person.

I agree about not realizing about relaxing. Sometimes you think you didnt relax at all. I find if I think back to the moments of meditation after I am done, I realize certain points during mediation when I had those moments of "oneness".

Which reminds me. The first few times I had these moments, I was so happy and elated it brought me almost immediately out of the meditative state.

I had a hard time breaking through to maintain those moments. You get so excited that you did it. Was hard for me anyways.

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Or those moments when you are doing an athletic activity. When you loose all thought, all emotion. Become one with the activity.

What is your point?

Why would you even bring this to the thread?

It is irrelevant to our conversation.

Completely irrelevant. Even if true.

Everyone is capable of negative thoughts. Even Ghandi.


Thee who is without sin... or something like that.

Please take these negative posting out of my thread. They have no value here.

I've found and walked the path of the "etheric way", but no one cares and anyone wanna found my researches.

It's really a shame the German haven't offered me a scientific contract research yet. I'm an Illuminati God, and no one wanna give a shit about me? Fuck Off bitch asses phunks!










Last Edited by Apopheros on 04/10/2013 07:00 PM

Why did u quote Gandhi?

We are all Gods. We have just "forgotten".

Would you have me take it off based on this persons books?

Did he not do some wonderful things?

Is his belief in meditation wrong?

Hitler believed in meditation too. Not getting why that matters to this thread?


Please, take it elsewhere.

I want to know why did you quote him. There are more prominent figures in history who believed in meditation.

I can give my own take on meditation but first clear for me..

Every single living being is a vast deep ocean of consciousness only they just don't know it. Sooner or later they will each decide they have had enough and are driven to find the way back home. Throw yourself away to find yourself. Blessings to all.

OP not trolling, just giving another example of others using Meditation.



Last Edited by Terrebonne on 04/10/2013 07:25 PM

Wasnt directed at you. Was directed at the person who called meditation pagan. I was using your quote to battle the "troll".

I agree with the scripture you posted.

Namaste Brother.

Last Edited by Forgotten on 04/10/2013 07:25 PM

I am waiting..

Because he did some wonderful things for India. Because he helped unite a country.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Not that he is in the same realm as Buddha or Jesus, but he is in the same realm as doctors and AMA.

Doctors can be racist, but they still agree meditation is good.

But again, all that is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Last Edited by Forgotten on 04/10/2013 07:29 PM

Fucking Christians.
Get that fucking head out of your catholic asses and think...

You pray every day before bed without meditation, how do you expect to hear an answer without tuning to Gods Radio with a sheep mind human have, it would be a miss.

Meh, then again why would a human want to "Listen" to what other energies has to say, humans just want to pound their prayers and expect to get a message without proper participation in communication ....

Hmm... Ok.

My take on meditation is that it connects you with the your self and answers the doubts of yourself being. In other words it helps you in the process of 'self-realisation'.

Yes, this is one of the benefits of meditation.

I study the teachings of Jesus Christ...most good Christians actually read the bible

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[link to www.openbible.info]

Meditation

Joshua 1:8 ESV / 118 helpful votes

This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.

Psalm 19:14 ESV / 58 helpful votes

Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my rock and my redeemer.

Psalm 1:2 ESV / 57 helpful votes

But his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night.

Psalm 119:15 ESV / 43 helpful votes

I will meditate on your precepts and fix my eyes on your ways.

Psalm 104:34 ESV / 39 helpful votes

May my meditation be pleasing to him, for I rejoice in the Lord.

Philippians 4:8 ESV / 38 helpful votes

Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

Proverbs 4:20-22 ESV / 35 helpful votes

My son, be attentive to my words; incline your ear to my sayings. Let them not escape from your sight; keep them within your heart. For they are life to those who find them, and healing to all their flesh.

Psalm 49:3 ESV / 25 helpful votes

My mouth shall speak wisdom; the meditation of my heart shall be understanding.

Psalm 119:97 ESV / 24 helpful votes

Oh how I love your law! It is my meditation all the day.

Psalm 119:1-176 ESV / 21 helpful votes

Blessed are those whose way is blameless, who walk in the law of the Lord! Blessed are those who keep his testimonies, who seek him with their whole heart, who also do no wrong, but walk in his ways! You have commanded your precepts to be kept diligently. Oh that my ways may be steadfast in keeping your statutes! ...

Isaiah 26:3 ESV / 17 helpful votes

You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he trusts in you.

Matthew 6:6 ESV / 15 helpful votes

But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.

Psalm 119:48 ESV / 15 helpful votes

I will lift up my hands toward your commandments, which I love, and I will meditate on your statutes.

Psalm 119:148 ESV / 14 helpful votes

My eyes are awake before the watches of the night, that I may meditate on your promise.

Psalm 119:11 ESV / 14 helpful votes

I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you.

Psalm 1:1-6 ESV / 14 helpful votes

Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers; but his delight is in the law of the Lord, and on his law he meditates day and night. He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers. The wicked are not so, but are like chaff that the wind drives away. Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous; ...

Psalm 63:6 ESV / 11 helpful votes

When I remember you upon my bed, and meditate on you in the watches of the night;

Psalm 119:97-99 ESV / 10 helpful votes

Oh how I love your law! It is my meditation all the day. Your commandment makes me wiser than my enemies, for it is ever with me. I have more understanding than all my teachers, for your testimonies are my meditation.

Psalm 119:9-11 ESV / 10 helpful votes

How can a young man keep his way pure? By guarding it according to your word. With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments! I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you.

Psalm 4:4 ESV / 10 helpful votes

Be angry, and do not sin; ponder in your own hearts on your beds, and be silent. Selah

Psalm 119:59 ESV / 8 helpful votes

When I think on my ways, I turn my feet to your testimonies;

Psalm 77:10-12 ESV / 8 helpful votes

Then I said, “I will appeal to this, to the years of the right hand of the Most High.” I will remember the deeds of the Lord; yes, I will remember your wonders of old. I will ponder all your work, and meditate on your mighty deeds.

Psalm 46:10 ESV / 8 helpful votes

“Be still, and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth!”

Genesis 24:63 ESV / 8 helpful votes

And Isaac went out to meditate in the field toward evening. And he lifted up his eyes and saw, and behold, there were camels coming.

2 Timothy 3:16-17 ESV / 7 helpful votes

All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.

1 Timothy 4:15 ESV / 7 helpful votes

Practice these things, immerse yourself in them, so that all may see your progress.

1 Timothy 4:13-15 ESV / 7 helpful votes

Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation, to teaching. Do not neglect the gift you have, which was given you by prophecy when the council of elders laid their hands on you. Practice these things, immerse yourself in them, so that all may see your progress.

Philippians 4:13 ESV / 7 helpful votes

I can do all things through him who strengthens me.

Psalm 143:5 ESV / 7 helpful votes

I remember the days of old; I meditate on all that you have done; I ponder the work of your hands.

Psalm 119:78 ESV / 7 helpful votes

Let the insolent be put to shame, because they have wronged me with falsehood; as for me, I will meditate on your precepts.

Psalm 39:3 ESV / 7 helpful votes

My heart became hot within me. As I mused, the fire burned; then I spoke with my tongue:

Psalm 119:55 ESV / 6 helpful votes

I remember your name in the night, O Lord, and keep your law.

Psalm 119:23 ESV / 6 helpful votes

Even though princes sit plotting against me, your servant will meditate on your statutes.

Psalm 139:17 ESV / 5 helpful votes

How precious to me are your thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them!

Psalm 119:16 ESV / 5 helpful votes

I will delight in your statutes; I will not forget your word.

Psalm 63:5 ESV / 5 helpful votes

My soul will be satisfied as with fat and rich food, and my mouth will praise you with joyful lips,

Isaiah 1:1-31 ESV / 4 helpful votes

The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth; for the Lord has spoken: “Children have I reared and brought up, but they have rebelled against me. The ox knows its owner, and the donkey its master's crib, but Israel does not know, my people do not understand.” Ah, sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, offspring of evildoers, children who deal corruptly! They have forsaken the Lord, they have despised the Holy One of Israel, they are utterly estranged. Why will you still be struck down? Why will you continue to rebel? The whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. ...

Psalm 77:11 ESV / 3 helpful votes

I will remember the deeds of the Lord; yes, I will remember your wonders of old.

John 2:23-25 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Now when he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Feast, many believed in his name when they saw the signs that he was doing. But Jesus on his part did not entrust himself to them, because he knew all people and needed no one to bear witness about man, for he himself knew what was in man.

John 1:14 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Psalm 139:18 ESV / 2 helpful votes

If I would count them, they are more than the sand. I awake, and I am still with you.

Psalm 73:12-22 ESV / 2 helpful votes

Behold, these are the wicked; always at ease, they increase in riches. All in vain have I kept my heart clean and washed my hands in innocence. For all the day long I have been stricken and rebuked every morning. If I had said, “I will speak thus,” I would have betrayed the generation of your children. But when I thought how to understand this, it seemed to me a wearisome task, ...

2 Samuel 6:11 ESV / 2 helpful votes

And the ark of the Lord remained in the house of Obed-edom the Gittite three months, and the Lord blessed Obed-edom and all his household.

According to me that is the only purpose of meditation but it has other benefits of keeping your body ans soul and the bridge between them in balance.

How to meditate? Do I just sit down? I like the hand gesture of right palm under left palm and then the two thumbs connecting (the gesture of balance). ALso can you meditate while doing stuff? I find this is very hard to maintain the focus or concentrate. I saw this video "HOW TO STOP THINKING" on youtube and it helped a lot, it's a 50 minute tape and basically says you cannot learn how to stop thinking you do it by doing it. SO i guess meditation will help me with focus and concentration.

What IS meditation? Help me please

Liike when I go out in public and there a lot of people around me, cars, etc. and I stop thinking everything around me becomes inside of me and then I lose control(focus or concentrate) and the mind starts thinking and then uncomfortable/awkward things happen.
Can anyone help me

Basically I learn the universal truth, that is about perception and consciousness; the absolute. Now knowing it is all me I just feel like a bad person and I want to be good and everybody to be well and be happy and stuff and have un but it's like i am stuck in this situation and it's all up to me and it just seems really hard caus i am only 17- it makes me feel like i need to go and be alone for like a week or a weekend just meditate.

If you want to learn how to meditate, google search "Jack Kornfield", one of his books or audiobooks on vipasanna will help you, he is the best meditation master IMO.

Maybe you SHOULD block out some sort of extended period to meditate. Find a place where you won't be disturbed... maybe a safe natural setting... let those around you who could be concerned by your absence know about it, and get your meditation on! You may only be 17, but IMHO, you can do a LOT for the world by spending that time at peace with yourself... and with the extension of yourself... the world.

It's very simple. As I said in an earlier thread, you will think that you're not accomplishing anything while you're meditating, but you are. Just give it time.

Not too long ago, I watched Deepak Chopra on TV.

He talked about the importance of meditation. He said if you meditate for 21 days straight, it will change your life. Certainly, meditating after 21 days is important, but he says you will see a difference in your life after 21 days.

Much of what he said about meditating is what I learned years ago at a transcendental meditation class...and I KNOW it works! We were also advised to turn off a phone that might ring. I found out that's important. You don't realize it at the time, but you are so relaxed while meditating, that a sudden noise, such as a ringing phone, will startle you.

Deepak meditates for 2 hours every morning...from 4-6am (ARGH), but....this is his advice:

* 15-20 minutes is good for us in morning and ideally again, around 4 or 5 pm (before dinner) At least do it in morning! It will energize you. Will lower B/P, stress, etc.
* Don't eat or drink coffee...meditate on empty stomach
* Sitting position. Palms up, touch thumb to tip of index (pointer) finger
* Legs crossed or not crossed...just be comfortable
* Let thoughts flow...don't try to silence them. (I was told to think of a peaceful scene)
* Don't say mantra outloud...do it mentally
* Best mantra is "soooo humm" soooo when inhaling.....humm when exhaling (This is Deepak's advice. I never did the inhale-exhale thing)
* Your breath will get slower and deeper, but don't concentrate on it

He said you can meditate anywhere....even on an airplane, but never while driving.
Never meditate before bedtime....meditation will energize you.

Last Edited by nutmeg on 04/10/2013 08:43 PM

Excellent post!!!!