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Facts and Explanation of DEFCON Warning System

 
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I think if you want a true assessment of what STATE we are in... just go to your local Military base and try to get on... If we are under heightened alert.. You WON'T be getting on!
Maybe if they turned the economy off and then turned it back on it might run better. Works for my computer.
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Thanks for the thread OP!

I was one yesterday on a thread that had questioned the validity of the status and someone was kind enough to inform me that it was NOT a legit gov't site.

It's good to be able to separate fact from fiction when we can as the info we can absolutely.. definitely nail down as fact is slim to none for sure.
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why should DEFCON be classified exactly?

who serves who again?

remind me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37111464


As a Constitutional Libertarian, I surely believe in transparency in government.

That being said, there are things that need to be and will always need to be kept as closely-held information.

A great deal of this stems from not necessarily keeping the American citizenry in the dark, but moreso to create additional hurdles for our enemies - and regardless of how many community organizers take office, we have and will continue to have enemies; hence the situation we're currently in.

If no other shining example for this comes to mind, consider the Ft. Hood terroristic event (Nadal/ and yes it was terroristic), or those who suddenly fall to the "Sudden Jihad Syndrome", or even yet those who feel the need to share every tidbit of information they happen across in an effort to build or support themselves as being more "in-the-know" than their peers - many of these right within the bounds of GLP.

There are many folks here on GLP that actually have the existing ties in place from which they ARE "in-the-know", and even more that have retained ties and associations from their former lives. None of these people will be the ones reporting that any DEFCON related status changes have been made.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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op is the astromut of the US industrial military complex

laying down the truth
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"Astromut"? I don't think I'm understanding your point.
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A super pin would be nice, it would debunk the dozens of BS threads all at one time.
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This
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why should DEFCON be classified exactly?

who serves who again?

remind me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37111464


As a Constitutional Libertarian, I surely believe in transparency in government.

That being said, there are things that need to be and will always need to be kept as closely-held information.

A great deal of this stems from not necessarily keeping the American citizenry in the dark, but moreso to create additional hurdles for our enemies - and regardless of how many community organizers take office, we have and will continue to have enemies; hence the situation we're currently in.

If no other shining example for this comes to mind, consider the Ft. Hood terroristic event (Nadal/ and yes it was terroristic), or those who suddenly fall to the "Sudden Jihad Syndrome", or even yet those who feel the need to share every tidbit of information they happen across in an effort to build or support themselves as being more "in-the-know" than their peers - many of these right within the bounds of GLP.

There are many folks here on GLP that actually have the existing ties in place from which they ARE "in-the-know", and even more that have retained ties and associations from their former lives. None of these people will be the ones reporting that any DEFCON related status changes have been made.
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. You won't get a DEFCON post from me.
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why should DEFCON be classified exactly?

who serves who again?

remind me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37111464


As a Constitutional Libertarian, I surely believe in transparency in government.

That being said, there are things that need to be and will always need to be kept as closely-held information.

A great deal of this stems from not necessarily keeping the American citizenry in the dark, but moreso to create additional hurdles for our enemies - and regardless of how many community organizers take office, we have and will continue to have enemies; hence the situation we're currently in.

If no other shining example for this comes to mind, consider the Ft. Hood terroristic event (Nadal/ and yes it was terroristic), or those who suddenly fall to the "Sudden Jihad Syndrome", or even yet those who feel the need to share every tidbit of information they happen across in an effort to build or support themselves as being more "in-the-know" than their peers - many of these right within the bounds of GLP.

There are many folks here on GLP that actually have the existing ties in place from which they ARE "in-the-know", and even more that have retained ties and associations from their former lives. None of these people will be the ones reporting that any DEFCON related status changes have been made.
 Quoting: ClydeX


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. You won't get a DEFCON post from me.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Yes sir.............. Those who DO know, are also aware of the gravity associated that has warranted any such change.

There was a time when the populous of our country was proud of the country and worked together. Everyone had a part - even if that meant keeping your trap shut about certain things.

Sadly, that time passed, and likely before most of the posters here were even born.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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Thanks for the RED PIN!!!!!!!!!

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Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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why should DEFCON be classified exactly?

who serves who again?

remind me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37111464


As a Constitutional Libertarian, I surely believe in transparency in government.

That being said, there are things that need to be and will always need to be kept as closely-held information.

A great deal of this stems from not necessarily keeping the American citizenry in the dark, but moreso to create additional hurdles for our enemies - and regardless of how many community organizers take office, we have and will continue to have enemies; hence the situation we're currently in.

If no other shining example for this comes to mind, consider the Ft. Hood terroristic event (Nadal/ and yes it was terroristic), or those who suddenly fall to the "Sudden Jihad Syndrome", or even yet those who feel the need to share every tidbit of information they happen across in an effort to build or support themselves as being more "in-the-know" than their peers - many of these right within the bounds of GLP.

There are many folks here on GLP that actually have the existing ties in place from which they ARE "in-the-know", and even more that have retained ties and associations from their former lives. None of these people will be the ones reporting that any DEFCON related status changes have been made.
 Quoting: ClydeX


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. You won't get a DEFCON post from me.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Yes sir.............. Those who DO know, are also aware of the gravity associated that has warranted any such change.

There was a time when the populous of our country was proud of the country and worked together. Everyone had a part - even if that meant keeping your trap shut about certain things.

Sadly, that time passed, and likely before most of the posters here were even born.
 Quoting: ClydeX

Exactly, all of the above.
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[link to www.patriotresistance.com]
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Easiest way to tell DEFCON level is to check security protocol at entrance gate at nearest mil base. The higher the DEFCON the more inspection at the gate. If they disallow civie workers you are nearing highest DEFCON level. FYI.
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Easiest way to tell DEFCON level is to check security protocol at entrance gate at nearest mil base. The higher the DEFCON the more inspection at the gate. If they disallow civie workers you are nearing highest DEFCON level. FYI.
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That's not necessarily true, either. There have been base exercises where essential civilian workers where allowed on base. No family members allowed, though.

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ClydeX  (OP)

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I'm not sure what you're sharing there, friend.

I checked your link, clicked on one of the "DEFCON" buttons, and not only was it not valid, it was dated 2011.

This thread is about accurate information and dispelling myths - help me and the readers of this thread to understand the purpose of this link so that it is not taken out of context nor discounted if it has some other merit that I have overlooked.
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8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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hey OP is your last name "Lewis" by chance?? Just wondering.
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hey OP is your last name "Lewis" by chance?? Just wondering.
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Nope, not at all
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why should DEFCON be classified exactly?

who serves who again?

remind me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37111464


As a Constitutional Libertarian, I surely believe in transparency in government.

That being said, there are things that need to be and will always need to be kept as closely-held information.

A great deal of this stems from not necessarily keeping the American citizenry in the dark, but moreso to create additional hurdles for our enemies - and regardless of how many community organizers take office, we have and will continue to have enemies; hence the situation we're currently in.

If no other shining example for this comes to mind, consider the Ft. Hood terroristic event (Nadal/ and yes it was terroristic), or those who suddenly fall to the "Sudden Jihad Syndrome", or even yet those who feel the need to share every tidbit of information they happen across in an effort to build or support themselves as being more "in-the-know" than their peers - many of these right within the bounds of GLP.

There are many folks here on GLP that actually have the existing ties in place from which they ARE "in-the-know", and even more that have retained ties and associations from their former lives. None of these people will be the ones reporting that any DEFCON related status changes have been made.
 Quoting: ClydeX


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. You won't get a DEFCON post from me.
 Quoting: Desert Fox



Why is that DF???

Is it taboo to speak about it??

I trust you tounge
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why should DEFCON be classified exactly?

who serves who again?

remind me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37111464


As a Constitutional Libertarian, I surely believe in transparency in government.

That being said, there are things that need to be and will always need to be kept as closely-held information.

A great deal of this stems from not necessarily keeping the American citizenry in the dark, but moreso to create additional hurdles for our enemies - and regardless of how many community organizers take office, we have and will continue to have enemies; hence the situation we're currently in.

If no other shining example for this comes to mind, consider the Ft. Hood terroristic event (Nadal/ and yes it was terroristic), or those who suddenly fall to the "Sudden Jihad Syndrome", or even yet those who feel the need to share every tidbit of information they happen across in an effort to build or support themselves as being more "in-the-know" than their peers - many of these right within the bounds of GLP.

There are many folks here on GLP that actually have the existing ties in place from which they ARE "in-the-know", and even more that have retained ties and associations from their former lives. None of these people will be the ones reporting that any DEFCON related status changes have been made.
 Quoting: ClydeX


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. You won't get a DEFCON post from me.
 Quoting: Desert Fox



Why is that DF???

Is it taboo to speak about it??

I trust you tounge
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior

Those who access to DEFCON levels are of high security clearance and bound to not talking. Simple security. Stiff penalties are involved for violating security.

Last Edited by Desert Fox on 04/04/2013 12:17 PM
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Thanks OP for clearing up.
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Thanks for the post, OP.

Just wondering -- after 9/11, there was a lot of going back and forth between "yellow" and "orange" status. Does anyone know if that is still going on? And does it relate to DEFCON in any way?

Sorry for my ignorance -- I really don't pay much attention to such things.
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Thanks for the post, OP.

Just wondering -- after 9/11, there was a lot of going back and forth between "yellow" and "orange" status. Does anyone know if that is still going on? And does it relate to DEFCON in any way?

Sorry for my ignorance -- I really don't pay much attention to such things.
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Those are civilian codes, nothing at all to do with DEFCON.
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why should DEFCON be classified exactly?

who serves who again?

remind me
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37111464


As a Constitutional Libertarian, I surely believe in transparency in government.

That being said, there are things that need to be and will always need to be kept as closely-held information.

A great deal of this stems from not necessarily keeping the American citizenry in the dark, but moreso to create additional hurdles for our enemies - and regardless of how many community organizers take office, we have and will continue to have enemies; hence the situation we're currently in.

If no other shining example for this comes to mind, consider the Ft. Hood terroristic event (Nadal/ and yes it was terroristic), or those who suddenly fall to the "Sudden Jihad Syndrome", or even yet those who feel the need to share every tidbit of information they happen across in an effort to build or support themselves as being more "in-the-know" than their peers - many of these right within the bounds of GLP.

There are many folks here on GLP that actually have the existing ties in place from which they ARE "in-the-know", and even more that have retained ties and associations from their former lives. None of these people will be the ones reporting that any DEFCON related status changes have been made.
 Quoting: ClydeX


This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. You won't get a DEFCON post from me.
 Quoting: Desert Fox


Yes sir.............. Those who DO know, are also aware of the gravity associated that has warranted any such change.

There was a time when the populous of our country was proud of the country and worked together. Everyone had a part - even if that meant keeping your trap shut about certain things.

Sadly, that time passed, and likely before most of the posters here were even born.
 Quoting: ClydeX


Yep, we have been deceived and divided.

Great post in the OP btw!

hf
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hey OP is your last name "Lewis" by chance?? Just wondering.
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Nope, not at all
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ahh ok was just wondering if you were THE Clyde Lewis from ground zero radio.
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hey OP is your last name "Lewis" by chance?? Just wondering.
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Nope, not at all
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ahh ok was just wondering if you were THE Clyde Lewis from ground zero radio.
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Understood / no worries-

I posted earlier in this thread that "ClydeX" actually refers to
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op is the astromut of the US industrial military complex

laying down the truth
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"Astromut"? I don't think I'm understanding your point.
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He's calling you an expert in the field, but your facts conflict with his beliefs, so he doesn't like you.

win
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Well thanks for clearing that up!

I really look for folks to define the memes and slang that they throw around, as most of them are just repeats of something they've seen or heard from someone else (much like a child when they start using inappropriate language), but I haven't seen him back around.
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so we wil never know what defcon level we are at?
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Sunrise approaching in NK, so the rhetoric is sure to pick back up. I'll be in and out over the course of the evening, but let's make sure this information doesn't get lost in the shuffle as new threads are bound to pop up with references to DEFCON.
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NICE

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To clear up a lot of misunderstanding that surrounds the DEFCON Warning System:

The current DEFCON status IS NOT made public. Though there are many references throughout numerous threads over the past few days stating changes to the DEFCON status - these are not and cannot be accurate.

The most often referred to site is "www.defconwarningsystem.com", and this page IS NOT associated with the US Government, or the US Military. This fact is even stated on their website, and has not been "updated" since 28 Mar 13. There are other similar sites, even some that actually refer to a particular on-line game, but be assured that none of these have an actual representation of the current status, or any change thereof.

Unless you see a direct reference to any statement(s) made regarding the DEFCON Status by The President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, or The Joint Chiefs (who wouldn't be relaying this news) - then any reference to a change in status is not founded.

Do I personally believe it has been changed? Yes, I do. That, however, has no bearing on the actual status, the status for a particular area, or that it is fact.

Those within the Cabinet or in certain positions within the US Military that DO know the current status or any changes will not make this information public. They didn't achieve that position by airing every bit of laundry they have come across.

There are also additional "warning systems" in place, primarily operated by DHS, and these MAY also coincide with a current DEFCON status, but not necessarily. You can access these as open information by visiting the DHS site (which I intentionally did not link to GLP).

Lets put the cap on the rumors and disinformation.
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lolol your obviously a shill stop spreading disinfo fag
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To clear up a lot of misunderstanding that surrounds the DEFCON Warning System:

The current DEFCON status IS NOT made public. Though there are many references throughout numerous threads over the past few days stating changes to the DEFCON status - these are not and cannot be accurate.

The most often referred to site is "www.defconwarningsystem.com", and this page IS NOT associated with the US Government, or the US Military. This fact is even stated on their website, and has not been "updated" since 28 Mar 13. There are other similar sites, even some that actually refer to a particular on-line game, but be assured that none of these have an actual representation of the current status, or any change thereof.

Unless you see a direct reference to any statement(s) made regarding the DEFCON Status by The President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, or The Joint Chiefs (who wouldn't be relaying this news) - then any reference to a change in status is not founded.

Do I personally believe it has been changed? Yes, I do. That, however, has no bearing on the actual status, the status for a particular area, or that it is fact.

Those within the Cabinet or in certain positions within the US Military that DO know the current status or any changes will not make this information public. They didn't achieve that position by airing every bit of laundry they have come across.

There are also additional "warning systems" in place, primarily operated by DHS, and these MAY also coincide with a current DEFCON status, but not necessarily. You can access these as open information by visiting the DHS site (which I intentionally did not link to GLP).

Lets put the cap on the rumors and disinformation.
 Quoting: ClydeX


lolol your obviously a shill stop spreading disinfo fag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20443423


Oh no, the secret is out.

May I at least retain my ability to spell "you're" correctly? What about grammar? Punctuation? Can I at least retain one of these before I need to begin posting like you?

goaway
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Correct. American DEFCON levels are not public.

Currently, DEFCON readiness is at 2.

Best of luck.





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