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To clear up a lot of misunderstanding that surrounds the DEFCON Warning System:

The current DEFCON status IS NOT made public. Though there are many references throughout numerous threads over the past few days stating changes to the DEFCON status - these are not and cannot be accurate.

The most often referred to site is "www.defconwarningsystem.com", and this page IS NOT associated with the US Government, or the US Military. This fact is even stated on their website, and has not been "updated" since 28 Mar 13. There are other similar sites, even some that actually refer to a particular on-line game, but be assured that none of these have an actual representation of the current status, or any change thereof.

Unless you see a direct reference to any statement(s) made regarding the DEFCON Status by The President, Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, or The Joint Chiefs (who wouldn't be relaying this news) - then any reference to a change in status is not founded.

Do I personally believe it has been changed? Yes, I do. That, however, has no bearing on the actual status, the status for a particular area, or that it is fact.

Those within the Cabinet or in certain positions within the US Military that DO know the current status or any changes will not make this information public. They didn't achieve that position by airing every bit of laundry they have come across.

There are also additional "warning systems" in place, primarily operated by DHS, and these MAY also coincide with a current DEFCON status, but not necessarily. You can access these as open information by visiting the DHS site (which I intentionally did not link to GLP).

Lets put the cap on the rumors and disinformation.

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This slaphim and this wakeup for the people that cannot read.
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Thanks guys - the funny part is; the people helping to keep this information up are aware of the false-hoods being tossed around.

I do believe a good portion is simply because people honestly don't know and are repeating information thrown around as sensational fact.

The ME and FE situation is trying enough to keep up with - there's no reason to create any additional fear(s) in people by repeating untruths related to the DEFCON system.

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Thanks guys - the funny part is; the people helping to keep this information up are aware of the false-hoods being tossed around.

I do believe a good portion is simply because people honestly don't know and are repeating information thrown around as sensational fact.

The ME and FE situation is trying enough to keep up with - there's no reason to create any additional fear(s) in people by repeating untruths related to the DEFCON system.
 Quoting: ClydeX


I think some of it is there are so many threads about it, too. Maybe people are speed scrolling through the threads, trying to keep up. I know I find myself doing it and have to go back and reread.
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applause2For OP!


This slaphim and this wakeup for the people that cannot read.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Thank you, and I do agree.

I thought at this point that maybe we could have a centralized posting regarding the system - I'm sure you guys have typed the information numerous times over the past few days as well - this provides a simple link so that people can read for themselves.
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Hi ClydeX,

Your avatar is a cutie!

What is the current DEFCON statis in your best guess knowing what you know? Is moving missiles into launch reason enough for them to consider raising the level?

Thanks for the thread!
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so we wil never know what defcon level we are at?
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Thanks guys - the funny part is; the people helping to keep this information up are aware of the false-hoods being tossed around.

I do believe a good portion is simply because people honestly don't know and are repeating information thrown around as sensational fact.

The ME and FE situation is trying enough to keep up with - there's no reason to create any additional fear(s) in people by repeating untruths related to the DEFCON system.
 Quoting: ClydeX


I think some of it is there are so many threads about it, too. Maybe people are speed scrolling through the threads, trying to keep up. I know I find myself doing it and have to go back and reread.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Sure - that is very valid. I'm on here a lot, but I'm (typically) doing work the same time. If I take a 20 minute phone call, then there's 20 pages of catching up to do.
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Hi ClydeX,

Your avatar is a cutie!

What is the current DEFCON statis in your best guess knowing what you know? Is moving missiles into launch reason enough for them to consider raising the level?

Thanks for the thread!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1053878


Thank you for the kind words.

Do I believe it to be imposing enough to justify raising the level? Quite possibly so, however, there is no way I would say what I think it is in watch that an OPINION (mine) is taken for fact by someone else. I just don't know that it would be responsible - especially on an open forum such as this.
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so we wil never know what defcon level we are at?
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No, darlin', we'll probably never know. It's classified information and the only way we'll know, is if the pres., Sec. Def. or someone else that high up tells us.

That website is NOT official. If it were, it would be a .mil or a .gov.
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so we wil never know what defcon level we are at?
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**IF** it is stated FOR SURE of any change, then an active engagement event IS HAPPENING, or HAS HAPPENED.
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289 views to this thread as of this writing in just under 30 minutes, and a dozen replies. Share it so that the disinformation - intentional or not - is squashed.
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so we wil never know what defcon level we are at?
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**IF** it is stated FOR SURE of any change, then an active engagement event IS HAPPENING, or HAS HAPPENED.
 Quoting: ClydeX


The thing people have to remember, if something is happening, we WILL be aware of the changes. It seems we've forgotten what happened during Desert Shield/Storm and after 911. We don't need a website run in his mom's basement to see what's going on around us.

Saying that, be careful of believing every post about increased aircraft activity. Some of it is false posting and most of it is just people noticing it. I've lived on bases with jets and heliocopters. Trust me, if they are deploying, you'll know for sure.
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**IF** it is stated FOR SURE of any change, then an active engagement event IS HAPPENING, or HAS HAPPENED.
 Quoting: ClydeX


The thing people have to remember, if something is happening, we WILL be aware of the changes. It seems we've forgotten what happened during Desert Shield/Storm and after 911. We don't need a website run in his mom's basement to see what's going on around us.

Saying that, be careful of believing every post about increased aircraft activity. Some of it is false posting and most of it is just people noticing it. I've lived on bases with jets and heliocopters. Trust me, if they are deploying, you'll know for sure.
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yup i rember seeing the big helicopters during operation afgan after 911
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**IF** it is stated FOR SURE of any change, then an active engagement event IS HAPPENING, or HAS HAPPENED.
 Quoting: ClydeX


The thing people have to remember, if something is happening, we WILL be aware of the changes. It seems we've forgotten what happened during Desert Shield/Storm and after 911. We don't need a website run in his mom's basement to see what's going on around us.

Saying that, be careful of believing every post about increased aircraft activity. Some of it is false posting and most of it is just people noticing it. I've lived on bases with jets and heliocopters. Trust me, if they are deploying, you'll know for sure.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


yup i rember seeing the big helicopters during operation afgan after 911
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Not everyone is going to see them. Where we live now, we're not in a flight path anymore. If I do start seeing them, then I'll know something is up. If you do live/work in a place that sees overflights routinely, you'll start to see so many more. You'll know.
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so we wil never know what defcon level we are at?
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**IF** it is stated FOR SURE of any change, then an active engagement event IS HAPPENING, or HAS HAPPENED.
 Quoting: ClydeX


The thing people have to remember, if something is happening, we WILL be aware of the changes. It seems we've forgotten what happened during Desert Shield/Storm and after 911. We don't need a website run in his mom's basement to see what's going on around us.

Saying that, be careful of believing every post about increased aircraft activity. Some of it is false posting and most of it is just people noticing it. I've lived on bases with jets and heliocopters. Trust me, if they are deploying, you'll know for sure.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


Sure - it's surprising how tied to and dependent we - even a minimalists as I - have become to being "tied in". Sorting through the information to separate the valid, probable, plausible, and invalid information can become quite trying.

That, again is the spirit of this thread - to remove one of the current speedbumps for folks looking for answers or information.
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Thanks for the info OP, such a shame this thread had to be made though, kind of obvious DEFCON info would be clasified.
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As a retired USAF person, I agree with you. I was aware of DEFCON status changes but it is something we never revealed outside the need to know people. As a matter a fact, it is not a warning system at all, rather a status system used only by the military. Any postings concerning DEFCON status should be disregarded.
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Thanks for the info OP, such a shame this thread had to be made though, kind of obvious DEFCON info would be clasified.
 Quoting: alexisj9


I believe many people honestly do not know, then take a posting on a site such as this as being valid. There is a tremendous amount of good information to be found within GLP. There is just as much incorrect information posted here - be that intentional or not.
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so we wil never know what defcon level we are at?
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**IF** it is stated FOR SURE of any change, then an active engagement event IS HAPPENING, or HAS HAPPENED.
 Quoting: ClydeX


The thing people have to remember, if something is happening, we WILL be aware of the changes. It seems we've forgotten what happened during Desert Shield/Storm and after 911. We don't need a website run in his mom's basement to see what's going on around us.

Saying that, be careful of believing every post about increased aircraft activity. Some of it is false posting and most of it is just people noticing it. I've lived on bases with jets and heliocopters. Trust me, if they are deploying, you'll know for sure.
 Quoting: Texan Buckeye


You got it, but you will still not know the DEFCON status.
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Thanks for the info OP, such a shame this thread had to be made though, kind of obvious DEFCON info would be clasified.
 Quoting: alexisj9


I believe many people honestly do not know, then take a posting on a site such as this as being valid. There is a tremendous amount of good information to be found within GLP. There is just as much incorrect information posted here - be that intentional or not.
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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