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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29801624 United States 03/30/2013 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its not often i will share the voice of others, but today when i logged onto facebook a beautiful message waited for me. Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER Thanks to Luke Swan for this message =) The obsession to find truth, can also become an inability to see truth. Why keep fighting each other over who's right or wrong, when it's irrelevant who's right or wrong if the righteousness doesn't meet the wrongness? What I mean by that it’s that everyone argues over something because consciously or unconsciously, they either feel threatened by others’ takes or ideas, or because they’re claiming superiority, or because they are just obsessed with questioning and doubting, the obsession of truth, especially all over the internet where there is this phenomena that I call “The Truth syndrome”, that is people fighting and arguing over ABSURDITY, and feeling so offended by things that are completely irrelevant to their lives, but still they think those things are relevant to them. Release yourself from YOU, it’s not them, it’s YOU, everything begins and ends with YOU. A million things are possible, a million things are impossible, but in any case, the idea is to focus on what can make things possible for you now, forget the rest, it's irrelevant to you. The true ascending and revelation it’s "getting rid" of all the crap that occupied your mind and denied you true access to your heart and intuition, to the orgasm of your senses and your magnificent awareness. Good and evil are just different aspects from a same source, we just have different agendas, so integration it’s all about creating THE AGENDA! And the agenda is THE UNIVERSAL WORLD! The phrase "reality is perception" doesn’t mean the world is literally different for everyone, it means the world is symbolically different for everyone, it doesn’t make things less real or truer than they already are, that’s why energies can work through symbols, and if you can open up and expand to levels close to infinity, you see the "real perception of reality", hence reality is perception, it is how much you can perceive of something, not how much you can deny something. Absolute view dissolves individual views and makes them One above All. Infinity is the top. Top it. Religious fervor is one of those, God vs. no God, Jesus vs. no Jesus, the unbelievable amount of people who still believe in religious and politics leaders, failing to see that they’re all part of a same gang, and another one it’s the new world orderers against namastes and lightworkers and all the gamma of “tags and separations and groups” including new agers who ironically claim that we are all one, but you have to belong to one group or tag in specific to be ONE, love and light or you’re out but “not” about. I get it every time, every day: “if you’re a lightworker you shouldn’t do that or say that” So divisions and clashes revive again. It is ALL a psychological game. Good and evil are just different aspects from a same source, we just have different agendas, you will NEVER and I repeat NEVER get remotely close to a descent level of awareness if you keep thinking and believing in this dual God/Satan, goodness/evilness combo. That inevitably leads you to see things squared and lineal, thus you create a good and evil reality; also "believe what you want" shouldn't be just a choice because at the end of the day, it matters a lot, your belief define your existence, I see just so MUCH misguidance, it is just unbelievable, you can't get to level 9 without understanding the level before, and the one before that one, you can't embrace and create a new world if you still believe the very lies that hold the old one. HOW DARE YOU NOT “BELIEVING” THIS? People go crazy when they can’t tag because they’re used to categorize everything into one thing or another, and then when they find something or someone who is this, that and more of that, they can’t handle it because it can’t be tagged, and therefore must be rejected and considered blasphemous. I’ll tell you this: THAT IS THE TRUE BLASPHEMY OF IT ALL. That is ONE strange philosophy of unity, and that is one of the secret missions or behaviour altering methods of this virtual internet world, inciting people’s intolerance which in turn, flowers into aggressiveness, violence, narrow mindedness, and then all that it’s replayed into their real lives, that is one reason why it seems the world is going crazier and crazier, needless to say that is the perfect environment for ego to have a merry and happy go around, and it gets even more absurd, because those are the same people condemning others for their egos. Really funny that is. Same with the absurdity of sexual taboos. More divisions and more ignorance. The ignorance of not knowing thyselves. The ignorance of ignorance so "Knowing thyself" is probably the bottom line of the bottom line. Become ONE with The Force that can bring a New World into this reality. You belong with that force. You don’t create a new world just by closing your eyes saying “new world come here.” We have to make it happen, with the intent that we can do it, and others helping us in doing so and leading us to it. Not everyone is supposed to get it and that is ok, everyone’s got a talent or something that they can do too. It is our job to make them fit into the agenda, not necessarily excluding them from it, ´cause a Wise Soul can recognize an ignorant person because he was once ignorant, but an ignorant person can't recognize a wise soul because he's never been wise before. THE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE MANTRA: Put apart anyone who tries to pollute the message. Be faithful to your Spirit. LOVE your commitment! LOVE the vision! LOVE the joy! LOVE to love into a pure context, without forcing it into “unconditional” the mantra “unconditional love” it’s another reverse effect mantra like “We are One” because it FORCES people to be “unconditional” which in turn becomes “forced love” and no one wants to be “consciously” forced to do anything, unconditional love makes love even more conditional, no one’s forced to love, but everyone should feel the need to be themselves, to be love, but not imposed onto them, especially being forced to love as most people equates love with suffering and pain, not with bliss and infinity, and then understandably they go “but what is unconditional love?” and some try to explain as they can, some in the knowing, and some not in the knowing, but the bottom line is that they don't get it, much less FEEL IT, because you can’t take people from one point of perception, to a radically different and immensely more expanded point of perception in one leap. It needs to be progressive but constant. Very simple really LOVE just IS! No need to define it as conditional or unconditional. The mantra of Unconditional love also get people into hunting mode by all those different groups I mentioned at the beginning who seek glory and unity in poetry but not in the actual reality because they are forcing a reality based upon more ignorance, more hate, and more extreme and absurd rationality, no change, just continuity, no Universalism simply because they don’t comprehend reality. It is our job to shape their skills to make them fit into that reality, not excluding them from it. THE UNIVERSAL MESSAGE: It all revolves around the confusion of where the real conditionals end and begin, the confusion of psychological energy, and while trying to find or identify those as extremes, we have coffee with our very best friend Mrs or Mr. Duality. It’s dual right? The message is not "Be stupid", the message is "Be Real" and being real deals with a world of fairness and harmony, not with a world of tags and extremes, pure integration, pure ambiguity. True Oneness. Being the love doesn’t mean you have to deal and stay stuck to some people’s misery, it’s not a contradiction while done in “fair terms”, all the opposite, it keeps you pure, it keeps you real, be the love doesn't mean "let them crush you" or "stay where the filth is". We project, we mirror and dance with that reflection, and create another reflection, that is one thing, but if you know the way it works, exposing yourself to "re projections" it's suffering at will. Love has nothing to do with good and evil, light or dark. It is beyond all those absurd human interpretations of reality, and that's why humans have such a hard time "trying" to Love and actually never do. You can be energetically protected, not connecting with anything harmful for you, but that doesn't mean that you don't take care of yourself, that doesn't mean you stand in the middle of the road waiting for a bus to run you over. It’s that simple. Rejoice in the NOW with purpose, dedication, and the “key” word: COMMITMENT! Rise fearless. I call you and encourage you. I’ll hold you and protect you. Come together and Live an Orgy of Love. Metaphorically or literally. Just be it! I Love You. |
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(OP) User ID: 35650651 Norway 03/30/2013 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We humans, have anywhere from 12,000 to 60,000 thoughts per day. But according to some research, as many as 98 percent of them are exactly the same as we had the day before. Talk about creatures of habit! Even more significant, 80 percent of our thoughts are negative. Negative thoughts are particularly draining. Thoughts containing words like “never,” “should,” and “cant,” complaints, whining or thoughts that diminish our own or anothers sense of selfworth deplete the body by producing corresponding chemicals that weaken the physiology. No wonder were exhausted at the end of the day =) Last Edited by DontBeAfraidEVER on 03/30/2013 11:21 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29801624 United States 03/30/2013 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i really could, but i can't right now. Quoting: RDprofessor sorry. the answers don't lie in "yourself", they certainly don't lie in fleshly appetites and they don't lie in relativism. The answers do exist within the self, but most people are afraid to go there. The idea of 'satan' is a Jungian construct, representing the human subconscious or shadow. This is the area where all that you hate, fear, deny and repress in yourself resides. When we react to something and lack self-knowledge, we usually create chaos('the devil made me do it' saying acknowledges this). The journey within is not an easy journey. In ancient times this was referred to as Initiation, whereby the initiate would be called twice-born after said ordeal. Christ taught this. He said to 'clean the inside of the cup, then the whole cup would be clean.' He also said the kingdom is within man. This is the meaning of being 'born-again'. Christianity fails to teach this. |
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User ID: 36920794 Romania 03/30/2013 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i really could, but i can't right now. Quoting: RDprofessor sorry. the answers don't lie in "yourself", they certainly don't lie in fleshly appetites and they don't lie in relativism. when you will fully experience life from the perspective of the Soul, you will understand that 'yourself' does not necessarily mean fleshly appetites, but on the contrary |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20541213 United States 03/30/2013 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The faith, Roman Catholicism stands alone proclaiming she has the fullness of Truth, the fullest means to God's graces. Go for the fullness and reject the tiny bit all other ecclesiastical communities including non-Christian religions profess. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37097921 United States 03/30/2013 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | However, a problem, I see, with these posts, is that when you dig deep, and find the person's actual beliefs, the same person who criticizes other beliefs, is ironically presenting another alternative belief system. The person, believe his / her beliefs, is somehow more evolved and transcended since it's not labeled / 'tagged', but this is false. The person, is merely presenting his / her own personal beliefs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37097921 United States 03/30/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's post criticizes and speaks condescendingly about other beliefs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37097921 However, a problem, I see, with these posts, is that when you dig deep, and find the person's actual beliefs, the same person who criticizes other beliefs, is ironically presenting another alternative belief system. The person, believe his / her beliefs, is somehow more evolved and transcended since it's not labeled / 'tagged', but this is false. The person, is merely presenting his / her own personal beliefs. To elaborate, Luke Swan, is stating his beliefs is 'evolved' and 'transcended', and without labels / 'tags'. but his beliefs, can be 'tagged'. It's basically 'Secular humanism'. The rabbit hole, goes much much deeper than this. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20541213 United States 03/30/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's post criticizes and speaks condescendingly about other beliefs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37097921 However, a problem, I see, with these posts, is that when you dig deep, and find the person's actual beliefs, the same person who criticizes other beliefs, is ironically presenting another alternative belief system. The person, believe his / her beliefs, is somehow more evolved and transcended since it's not labeled / 'tagged', but this is false. The person, is merely presenting his / her own personal beliefs. A help, don't you see a person's belief unless it agrees with God's revelation, is worthless. There is one divine plan. We all have a fallen nature, in the New Jesus Covenant Christ revealed more fully how God imparts His very presence in your soul. This is called "sanctifying grace." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36663943 United Kingdom 03/30/2013 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its not often i will share the voice of others, but today when i logged onto facebook a beautiful message waited for me. Quoting: DontBeAfraidEVER Thanks to Luke Swan for this message =) The obsession to find truth, can also become an inability to see truth. Why keep fighting each other over who's right or wrong, when it's irrelevant who's right or wrong if the righteousness doesn't meet the wrongness? What I mean by that it’s that everyone argues over something because consciously or unconsciously, they either feel threatened by others’ takes or ideas, or because they’re claiming superiority, or because they are just obsessed with questioning and doubting, the obsession of truth, especially all over the internet where there is this phenomena that I call “The Truth syndrome”, that is people fighting and arguing over ABSURDITY, and feeling so offended by things that are completely irrelevant to their lives, but still they think those things are relevant to them. Release yourself from YOU, it’s not them, it’s YOU, everything begins and ends with YOU. A million things are possible, a million things are impossible, but in any case, the idea is to focus on what can make things possible for you now, forget the rest, it's irrelevant to you. The true ascending and revelation it’s "getting rid" of all the crap that occupied your mind and denied you true access to your heart and intuition, to the orgasm of your senses and your magnificent awareness. Good and evil are just different aspects from a same source, we just have different agendas, so integration it’s all about creating THE AGENDA! And the agenda is THE UNIVERSAL WORLD! The phrase "reality is perception" doesn’t mean the world is literally different for everyone, it means the world is symbolically different for everyone, it doesn’t make things less real or truer than they already are, that’s why energies can work through symbols, and if you can open up and expand to levels close to infinity, you see the "real perception of reality", hence reality is perception, it is how much you can perceive of something, not how much you can deny something. Absolute view dissolves individual views and makes them One above All. Infinity is the top. Top it. Religious fervor is one of those, God vs. no God, Jesus vs. no Jesus, the unbelievable amount of people who still believe in religious and politics leaders, failing to see that they’re all part of a same gang, and another one it’s the new world orderers against namastes and lightworkers and all the gamma of “tags and separations and groups” including new agers who ironically claim that we are all one, but you have to belong to one group or tag in specific to be ONE, love and light or you’re out but “not” about. I get it every time, every day: “if you’re a lightworker you shouldn’t do that or say that” So divisions and clashes revive again. It is ALL a psychological game. Good and evil are just different aspects from a same source, we just have different agendas, you will NEVER and I repeat NEVER get remotely close to a descent level of awareness if you keep thinking and believing in this dual God/Satan, goodness/evilness combo. That inevitably leads you to see things squared and lineal, thus you create a good and evil reality; also "believe what you want" shouldn't be just a choice because at the end of the day, it matters a lot, your belief define your existence, I see just so MUCH misguidance, it is just unbelievable, you can't get to level 9 without understanding the level before, and the one before that one, you can't embrace and create a new world if you still believe the very lies that hold the old one. HOW DARE YOU NOT “BELIEVING” THIS? People go crazy when they can’t tag because they’re used to categorize everything into one thing or another, and then when they find something or someone who is this, that and more of that, they can’t handle it because it can’t be tagged, and therefore must be rejected and considered blasphemous. I’ll tell you this: THAT IS THE TRUE BLASPHEMY OF IT ALL. That is ONE strange philosophy of unity, and that is one of the secret missions or behaviour altering methods of this virtual internet world, inciting people’s intolerance which in turn, flowers into aggressiveness, violence, narrow mindedness, and then all that it’s replayed into their real lives, that is one reason why it seems the world is going crazier and crazier, needless to say that is the perfect environment for ego to have a merry and happy go around, and it gets even more absurd, because those are the same people condemning others for their egos. Really funny that is. Same with the absurdity of sexual taboos. More divisions and more ignorance. The ignorance of not knowing thyselves. The ignorance of ignorance so "Knowing thyself" is probably the bottom line of the bottom line. Become ONE with The Force that can bring a New World into this reality. You belong with that force. You don’t create a new world just by closing your eyes saying “new world come here.” We have to make it happen, with the intent that we can do it, and others helping us in doing so and leading us to it. Not everyone is supposed to get it and that is ok, everyone’s got a talent or something that they can do too. It is our job to make them fit into the agenda, not necessarily excluding them from it, ´cause a Wise Soul can recognize an ignorant person because he was once ignorant, but an ignorant person can't recognize a wise soul because he's never been wise before. THE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE MANTRA: Put apart anyone who tries to pollute the message. Be faithful to your Spirit. LOVE your commitment! LOVE the vision! LOVE the joy! LOVE to love into a pure context, without forcing it into “unconditional” the mantra “unconditional love” it’s another reverse effect mantra like “We are One” because it FORCES people to be “unconditional” which in turn becomes “forced love” and no one wants to be “consciously” forced to do anything, unconditional love makes love even more conditional, no one’s forced to love, but everyone should feel the need to be themselves, to be love, but not imposed onto them, especially being forced to love as most people equates love with suffering and pain, not with bliss and infinity, and then understandably they go “but what is unconditional love?” and some try to explain as they can, some in the knowing, and some not in the knowing, but the bottom line is that they don't get it, much less FEEL IT, because you can’t take people from one point of perception, to a radically different and immensely more expanded point of perception in one leap. It needs to be progressive but constant. Very simple really LOVE just IS! No need to define it as conditional or unconditional. The mantra of Unconditional love also get people into hunting mode by all those different groups I mentioned at the beginning who seek glory and unity in poetry but not in the actual reality because they are forcing a reality based upon more ignorance, more hate, and more extreme and absurd rationality, no change, just continuity, no Universalism simply because they don’t comprehend reality. It is our job to shape their skills to make them fit into that reality, not excluding them from it. THE UNIVERSAL MESSAGE: It all revolves around the confusion of where the real conditionals end and begin, the confusion of psychological energy, and while trying to find or identify those as extremes, we have coffee with our very best friend Mrs or Mr. Duality. It’s dual right? The message is not "Be stupid", the message is "Be Real" and being real deals with a world of fairness and harmony, not with a world of tags and extremes, pure integration, pure ambiguity. True Oneness. Being the love doesn’t mean you have to deal and stay stuck to some people’s misery, it’s not a contradiction while done in “fair terms”, all the opposite, it keeps you pure, it keeps you real, be the love doesn't mean "let them crush you" or "stay where the filth is". We project, we mirror and dance with that reflection, and create another reflection, that is one thing, but if you know the way it works, exposing yourself to "re projections" it's suffering at will. Love has nothing to do with good and evil, light or dark. It is beyond all those absurd human interpretations of reality, and that's why humans have such a hard time "trying" to Love and actually never do. You can be energetically protected, not connecting with anything harmful for you, but that doesn't mean that you don't take care of yourself, that doesn't mean you stand in the middle of the road waiting for a bus to run you over. It’s that simple. Rejoice in the NOW with purpose, dedication, and the “key” word: COMMITMENT! Rise fearless. I call you and encourage you. I’ll hold you and protect you. Come together and Live an Orgy of Love. Metaphorically or literally. Just be it! I Love You. There is no truth in your post, the title of this thread however is a different matter |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 35650651 Norway 03/30/2013 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP's post criticizes and speaks condescendingly about other beliefs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37097921 However, a problem, I see, with these posts, is that when you dig deep, and find the person's actual beliefs, the same person who criticizes other beliefs, is ironically presenting another alternative belief system. The person, believe his / her beliefs, is somehow more evolved and transcended since it's not labeled / 'tagged', but this is false. The person, is merely presenting his / her own personal beliefs. Why do you call this criticing, are you that easily offended? Nothing of what posted here is written in a hostile manner, and nobody are forced to read this. In short its like you are saying that we should never listen to other people, because everybody is equally smart/stupid. Thats one of the biggest obstacles of this movement in my opinion. Everybody wants to be the teacher, and nobody wants to listen. It will NEVER EVER work =) One day, somehow, we will have to unite, and start speaking to each other again without borders of fear or labelling. OP's post criticizes and speaks condescendingly about other beliefs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37097921 However, a problem, I see, with these posts, is that when you dig deep, and find the person's actual beliefs, the same person who criticizes other beliefs, is ironically presenting another alternative belief system. The person, believe his / her beliefs, is somehow more evolved and transcended since it's not labeled / 'tagged', but this is false. The person, is merely presenting his / her own personal beliefs. To elaborate, Luke Swan, is stating his beliefs is 'evolved' and 'transcended', and without labels / 'tags'. but his beliefs, can be 'tagged'. It's basically 'Secular humanism'. The rabbit hole, goes much much deeper than this. Why cant you just read the words, forget who wrote them, take what you feel is truth, and ignore the rest? Whenever someone is giving your information the smartest and easiest way is just relate to whatever you can relate to, and dont let the rest irritate you. Look for the things that empowers you, dont look for the ones that irritate you. |
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