Nibiru/doomsday: Nostradamus could also have announced doomsday for March 31st as do the Mayan elders spokesman Don Alejandro!

The choice of the name Francesco by the new pope after his election in March 2013 is a amazingly clear factual confirmation of the timing and the imminence of the big event announced by Nostradamus, as perhaps the refusal of the new pope to be named Francesco Primo, probably in order not to be assimilated to the great King of France François Premier of Valois, born François of Angoulêmes. Maybe it’s because he doesn’t want to match with the “King of terror” of the quatrain of Nostradamus. Furthermore, if he knows that he is the last pope, he knows that a Francesco Secundo is not to expect in the future.

Nonetheless without minimizing the influence of a new pope on the world’s destiny, I think that Nostradamus is hinting to a by far more important event that the election of a new pope. In my opinion, this element is only, as I said before, one more factual clue to confirm the date of the incoming event for those who couldn’t success to decode his mathematical encryption or doubt of their decoding.

Still to determine would be the nature of the “King of terror”!? Will it a person (the great Monarch or the dreadful judge of the Malachy’s prophecy?), or an astronomical event as the impact of an asteroid like the one of about 100m large, which has flown by Earth on March 9th and was detected only six days before. It could be an atomic bomb launched against the symbol of Christianity (Roma) by Islamic terrorists. Finally it could correspond with the periodical visit of our binary black sun for March 31th (Nibiru), according to the prediction of the Mayan Grand Elder Don Alejandro, with an eventual pole shift causing giant tsunami flooding the low altitude cities as Roma.

But it won’t be a brown dwarf, because we would be observing its approach for years and without binocular.

It could only be something we don’t know of, that we never could observe before, maybe the spiral that is illustrated in many petroglyphs all around the world: a dark whirl swiftly rotating, dispending a strong magnetic attraction, but no gravitational pull and intercepting most of the light of the Sun, maybe constituted of dark matter, as is 86% of our universe.

The Kolbrin Bible, a controversial Celtic document, told about such a phenomenon as the Destroyer, in Manuscripts 3:2:
“... It was as a billowing cloud of smoke enwrapped in a ruddy glow, not distinguishable in joint or limb. Its mouth was an abyss from which came flame, smoke and hot cinders.”

I know that my own interpretation of the quatrain should be at minimum the millionth one about this famous quatrain of Nostradamus, but this time I’m not going at random, as did the most of interpreters. I’ve been starting from a possible result in order to possibly confirm the prevision of Don Alejandro. It’s always easier to resolve enigmas when you start from the result. And it seems to match pretty well.

I am ok for Sunday. I'll be sleeping

i find this somewhat plausible. 4 stars.

An alternative to the 13 Ahau theory of Don Alejandro, but it gives also March 31st 2013, because 100 days after December 21st 2012 is March 31st.

Thread: Why would the doomsday have a 100 days delay on the December 21st 2012?

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To complete the prediction of Don Alejandro about March 31st 2013 and to link him with the Nibiru topic, here are several interesting other declarations of him:

In a previous speech, he said that “…the prophecies foretell that the earth’s second sun will pass in front of our existing sun, causing a period of darkness that will last between one and six days…” “…the mechanized world, dissociated from nature and the earth, will be disturbed and destroyed at some level during the hours of darkness…”

[link to www.theosophical.org]

Grand Elder Don Alejandro is spokesman for the council of the Mayan Elders and reflecting the message of the Mayan prophecies to the humanity.

He is extremely positive: “the prophesied days of darkness will be an optimal time for meditation, as collectively the meditators may hold the biospheric space while the shift of the ages unfolds, helping to usher in the sixth sun and greater levels of consciousness.”

In an interview in 2006 by Carl Calleman, he was already speaking of a period of 60-70 hours of darkness between every two suns/areas, that there will be earthquakes, tornadoes and tsunamis (n.b. just like in the movie 2012), but he claimed that we don’t have to be scared. We’ll just have to meditate, to think of the Creator and hope that we will be among the survivors for the following era.

Clearly, there’s nothing else to do than to be in the right place at the right moment!

[link to www.mayanmajix.com] A link to the French translation of the interview. I couldn’t access to the English version.:amazing:

Nostradamustardism + Nibirutardism
too much retardation in this thread

Third prophecy corroborating a doom in 2013

The prophecy of St Malachy, designing the current new pope as the last and the pope of the end of times with the nickname of Petrus Romanus, still gives a little more credibility to the prediction of Don Alejandro. This third doomsday prophecy became now compatible and possibly corroborative of the two others since the resignation of Pope Benedict XV a month ago and the election of the new pope Francesco. It would make a very short reign for him with a doom for Easter, but why not?

I was, like most doomstards, a few disappointed by the non-election of one Peter, Pietro or Pedro as the new pope, but I think that after all, his nickname of Petrus Romanus will be sufficiently verified by his predicted fate, if the Malachy prophecy verifies itself, to need a further confirmation a priori by a name, family name or origin. In his first speech, the new pope has introduced himself as the new bishop of Roma (Romanus) and he is supposed to die as the second pope-martyr, after Peter, in the destruction of Roma, according to the Malachy’s prophecy. It would have been much too easy to be able to identify him as Petrus Romanus, if his name or origin had been directly linked to this nickname.

The Bible clearly announced that the doom will occurred unexpected and that evil people must keep acting as they did before and do today, because they don’t deserve to have a chance to change their behavior at the last moment, as a consequence of too evident clues confirming the pertinence of the Malachy’s warning and/or the imminence of the last judgment, something like the fact that the new Pope would have be named Peter or had chosen the name of Peter. But a posteriori, after the destruction of Roma and the death of the new pope, the clue will be evident for every survivor.

Fourth prophecy hinting to a doom in 2013: the visions of Prophet Daniel.

Daniel XII:11-13: “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. As for you, go your way till the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days you will rise to receive your allotted inheritance.”

Like for Nostradamus, many interpretations are possible and nobody can be sure of the meaning of Daniel’s images. But the construction of the Al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mont of Jerusalem seems to fit pretty well with the description of “the set up of the abomination” from a jewish point of view.

The problem is to determine the date of completion of the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Most sources note that it was ALREADY completed in 679 and that it was begun around 674. So the most probable date of completion should be 677 or 678. In a Hadith, it is affirmed that the Al-Aqsa Mosque is the second one constructed 40 years after the Holy Mosque of Mecca. It is established that the first wall around the Ka’ba was set up in 638 by Caliph Omar. [link to www.info.gov.sa]
It gives then 638+40 = 678.

Let’s then take the 678 hypothesis. It gives 678+1290 = 1968 for the Jerusalem re-appropriation by Israel. Although the military conquest occurred in 1967, the annexation of the Arab eastern Al-Quds became LEGALLY effective on June 28th 1968 by the adoption of the related law by the Israel Knesset. So the end of times would come sometimes in 1968 + 45 more years = 2013.

But the connection between the “set up of the abomination that causes desolation” and the construction of the Al-Aqsa Mosque needs to be ascertained, beyond the mathematical match with the 1968 end mark. Maybe the reference to Daniel 9, 27 would help: “…And on a WING [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation…” and to Daniel, "His armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation…” would be helpful. So the abomination seems to be a construction set up in the temple fortress, BUT NOT ON THE DOME OF ROCK.

When Herod reconstructed the temple, he built a new magnificent basilica named royal Stoa on the south wall parallel to the temple himself, to celebrate his own power. As it was related to the temple by the west wall, it can certainly be considered as a wing of the temple and that’s exactly where the Muslims choice to set up their Al-Aqsa mosque. It seems that they only intended to build a shrine for pilgrims and not a mosque on the Dome of Rock (687-691), most probably because the Al-Aqsa mosque already existed. But it was made of wood and they had at first re-constructed it in stone. It seems then that Daniel rather referred to the Al-Aqsa mosque as the abomination that causes desolation. So the designed year for the calculation of the 1290 days/years would be 678.

A further confirmation of 1968 is the vision of Daniel 8 of a ram and a goat, referring clearly to the battle of Issus and the victory of Alexander the Great against Darius III, in November 333 BC.

Daniel 8 : 13-14 :

Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said to that certain one who was speaking, “How long will the vision be, concerning the daily sacrifices and the transgression of desolation, the giving of both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled underfoot?”And he said to me, “For two thousand three hundred days; then the sanctuary shall be cleansed.” Other translations of the last sentence give “then the sanctuary will regain its law (meaning the Jewish law).

It seems then to refer at the same event that the vision of Daniel 12, the legal re-appropriation of the Temple Mount by Israel. Here the calculation gives: 2300-333+1(for no year zero) = 1968 again! The end of the count remains the same based on Daniel 12. The end of the times will be in 1968+45 = 2013!!

and where is nibiru , if its coming its too big to be hidden so post its location

I've been bringing up those quartrains and a few others aswell.

Something to note:


Nisan (or Nissan) is the first month of the ecclesiastical year and the seventh month (eighth, in leap year) of the civil year, on the Hebrew calendar.


Gregorian Equivalent: March–April

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

All glory goes to Jesus and his father in heaven!

So you will cease and desist on Monday will you?

Last input from myself before doom, even more far fetched!


Calculation of the duration of the Nibiru’s orbital periodicity basing on the date of the creation of the current Sun ((4 Ahau 8 Kumk’u) and the date of its end (4 Ahau 3 K’ankin), as given by the Mayan Tradition:

Duration of the virtual Venus Cycle according the Ritual Calendar = 65 x 584 days (virtual Venus year) = 104 x 365 days (Haab Calendar year) = 146 x 260 days (Tzolkin Calendar year) = 37,960 days

Actual duration of 104 solar years according the Mayan notion of year’s duration = 104 x 365.2422 days = 37,985.2 days. With a corrective addition of 25 extra-days every 104 years and of one more extra-day every 520 years, without including them into the virtual calendar round and the Long Count, the matching of the actual count of years and days can be maintained to the same timing, respect the Tzolkin calendar, in order that the Ritual Calendar remained unchanged in relation to the virtual Cycle of Venus. So the Great Cycle of the Mayan calendar can begin on a day 4 Ahau and finish on a day 4 Ahau, as the Mayan tradition is claiming.

Actual duration of the Venus Cycle (65 Venus Years) according the Mayan notion of the Venus Year of 583.92027 days = 65 x 583.92027 days = 37,954.81755 days. So the (virtual) Venus Cycle of the Ritual Calendar duration remain actually nearer (+5.18245 days) of the actual Venus Cycle than of the real year (-25.2 days)before correction and deserves its name.
But the virtual count cannot be corrected in the same time for the actual Solar year and for the actual Venus year. They had to let one of them drift along the actual solar year and it seems logical to have chosen not to let the virtual Solar year drift, because the Haab Calendar’s purpose was primarily to situate important activities along the year. And that why the Great Cycle isn't finishing on a day 8 Kumku, but on a day 3 Kankin!

So they let the actual Venus Cycle drift in relation to their virtual Venus Cycle from 5.2 days every Mayan cycle of 104 years. So the Venus opposition marking the end of each Venus Cycle would be advanced every 104 years from 5,2 days related to the initial opposition on a 4 Ahau 8 Kumk’u and related to the virtual count (and also related to the corrected actual Haab year calendar). And the accumulated drifting of this date up to the one of the end of the Sun 4 Ahau 3 K’ank’in should give us the duration of the entire period, with the possible addition of an entire year for one more completed round.

The drifting from the 8 Kumk’u (348th day of the Haab year) to the 3 K’ank’in (263rd day of the (following) Haab year is of 365-348+263=280 days. So a single round of drifting would correspond to a complete period of 280,2422 : 5.18245 x 104 years = 5,623.8 years, so a few more than one Great Cycle of 5,125 years alleged by the Long Count Calendar.
But one round of drifting added to one complete year makes 280,2422 days+365,2422 days -3 days (because March 31st is 3 days after the superior conjunction of Venus on March 28th, meaning that the precedent doomsday have occurred as well three days after the corresponding conjunction) = 642,4844 days : 5.18245 = 123.973 Venus Cycles

Therefore the count would be: one Great Year = 124 Venus Cycle = 124 x 104 year = 12,896 years. It is very near of the count of a half of the precession cycle of the equinoxes, also known as Great Year or Platonic Year = 25,920 years : 2 = 12,960 years. But nowadays this value is rather estimated to 25,800 years: 2 = 12,900 years. So the count would be very close from the actual value!!

Nice day in Arizona today!! No doom yet!!

ERRATUM AND ADDENDUM

I was glad LIKE MOST OF YOU that finally the dooms didn’t occur on March 31st 2013, according the prediction of Don Alejandro. Nevertheless I’m not totally reassured yet.

Because there’s still a possibility for a doom around April 13th, basing on the other related predictions that I mentioned as possibly corroborating the Don Alejandro prediction.


Concerning my interpretation of the quatrain of Nostradamus and the possible D-date at end March, I forgot that Nostradamus was using the Julian calendar in 1555 when he wrote his quatrains. So March 31st 1555 corresponds to April 10th 1555 in the Gregorian calendar (10 days of delay on the solar year). “Before after March” could then refer to this days or maybe a few days afterwards.

Furthermore, if this prediction is actually hinting to 2013, the discrepancy between the Julian calendar and the Gregorian calendar would be of 13 days. So finally the doomsday could occur around April 13th 2013, according the Nostradamus prophecy.



Concerning the drifting of the Mayan Haab Calendar related to the actual solar year (and our Gregorian calendar), my first hypothesis was that the Mayas would have corrected in advance the accumulated discrepancy of their Haab calendar with the solar year (25 days every 104 years) on every beginning Venus cycle (104 years), to be just in time for the end of the following Venus Cycle and the possibly incoming doomsday.

They would have added 25 extra-days to the count in 1492, doubling the Kumku and Wayeb civil months, while suspending the Long Count, which could so remained coupled to the religious Tzolkin Calendar, also suspended for this period (out of time). So the discrepancy would have been to zero in 1596 for the following correction, which in fact never occurred, after the Spanish conquest. So the discrepancy would have started ever since to accumulate: 25 days in 1700, 50 days in 1804, 75 days in 1908 and 100 days in 2012.

So the 4 Ahau 3 Kankin would have in fact occurred 100 days later than the famous December 21st 2012, on March 31st 2013, which happens by chance to be the doomsdate (wrongly) assumed by Don Alejandro.

But I didn’t thought that in that configuration, the discrepancy of the Haab calendar with the solar year would have grown to a maximum of 25 days every 104 years. Such a long delay would have been uncomfortable for a people of cultivators like the Mayas, even though it was already much more realistic that the official thesis of the absence of correction.

Yet there is another possibility. As the Venus cycle is composed of two calendar rounds of 52 years, the corrective advance of 25 days could have been applied at the end of the calendar rounds preceding every Venus Cycle. So the count would also have been exact at the moment of the Venus cycle, but the drifting of the Haab calendar would have varied from -12.5 days to zero, for the end of the Venus cycle, and then to +12.5 days at the end of the following calendar round. The count would then have been corrected again from +12.5 days to -12.5 days (-25 days). With such a method, the virtual calendar wouldn’t be more than 12.5 days wrong, related to the actual solar calendar, instead of 25 days with the other method. So it seems to be a better system and probably the one actually used by the Mayas.

But that changes also the calculation to determinate the actual Gregorian date for the famous 4 Ahau 3 Kankin of the Tortuguero Monument 6 and the possible D-day.

The last correction of 25 days (in fact of 26 days this time, because 1492 is the end of an Ekomal Tun of 520 years) would have been made 52 years earlier in 1440. So the accumulated discrepancy would have been: -13 days in 1492, +13 days in 1596, +38 days in 1700, +63 days in 1804, +88 days in 1908...

and +113 days in 2012.

So the famous 4 Ahau 3 Kankin, end of the 13th Baktun and of the 5th Sun, could also correspond to April 13th 2013 in the Gregorian calendar (113 days after December 21st 2012).


And last but not least argument for this hypothesis: the 3 Kankin would in that case fall mid April, like it should according to its name (= yellow smoke, caused by the traditional burning of maize fields in April).



Those two prophecies of Nostradamus and of the ancient Mayas could then finally hint to the same D-date: April 13th 2013.

And the other prophecies (Malachy, Daniel) corroborating 2013 as the doom’s year obviously remain valid.

There’s a third possibility concerning the drifting of the Mayan Haab calendar related to the solar year. We cannot exclude that the Bishop Landa was finally pointing out a reality while saying that the Mayas added a day in their calendar every four year, although most of the mayanists claimed that he was extrapolating. He only forgot to mention or didn't know that this extra-day was only a civil day (probably a 6 Wayeb) and was not counted in the religious Tzolkin calendar and in the Long Count calendar. It was actually a kind of day out of time. Landa also reported July 26th as the Haab calendar beginning in his writing. [link to www.xibalbacacao.com]

The notion of “days out of time” actually exists in the Mayan culture to design the five last days of the Mayan Haab year and was only re-used to name the last day (July 25th) of the yearly calendar in a new calendar system (13 months of 28 days = 364 days +this last day = 365 days) proposed by the new Age author Jose Arguilles. But the interesting fact is that he also mentioned that the traditional begin of the Haab before the Spanish conquest was the July 26th, according to Mayan scribes. This could be correct, just as the fact that the July 25th was sometimes (as a day 6 Wayeb), every four or fifth year generally, actually celebrated as a day out of time, because it was not counted in the ritual Mayan calendar and in the Long Count calendar.

[link to fr.scribd.com]

Here is the most relevant part of this document, sustaining the July 26th hypothesis:

“In fulfillment of the cycle of 13, in 1519, the Aztec year One Reed, Hernan Cortez arrived in Mesoamerica and brought with him an end to the Aztec civilization. At this time, inspired by the seminal figure Nacom Balam, a mysterious lineage of Maya priests came to the fore, the Chilam Balam, interpreters of the hidden prophecies. The purpose of the Chilam Balam was to witness the transition from the cycle of the Oxlahuntiku to that of the Bolontiku, and to leave a record of the synchronization of the traditional count to what has become the Dreamspell. As paradoxical as it seems, although the first calendar-round of the Bolontiku was a period of great destruction and tragedy for the Maya, it also was a truly auspicious and magical age of Maya prophecy, for at this time the age-old civil calendar of 365 days -- the Haab -- which had been slowly slipping through the seasons due to its lack of leap years, came into perfect alignment with the solar new-year, celebrated on the day of the midsummer solar zenith in the Yucatan on the equivalent of July 26, or at that time in the Julian calendar July 16. The incredible sophistication of the Chilam Balam time-science allowed them to commemorate this momentous synchronization even under the brutal conditions of the conquest.

Although the full scope of the Chilam Balam synchronization is not recognized in academic literature, anthropologists have nevertheless recognized that a revolutionary change in the calendar was formalized by Maya priests at the site of Mayapan in the year 1539. This event is known as the Mayapan calendar reform. In the traditional count July 26 1539 (July 16 Julian) was 8 Chuen, which fell on the last day of the civil year. Even today among the highland Maya the day 8 Chuen (or Baatz) is recognized as “the first thread” or the day to “celebrate the re-creation of the sacred calendar.” The year that followed brought with it a katun ending (11.16.0.0.0. 13 Ahau, Nov. 12, 1539) and with the leap-day of 1540, the perfection of the alignment between the beginning of the Haab and the solar-zenith new year, correlating to the Julian date of July 16 to which the Chilam Balam then synchronized the beginning of the civil year for centuries into the future.

The chief distinguishing features of the Mayapan calendar are the use of the “type IV”, or “Gate-way” year-bearers Kan, Muluc, Ix, and Cauac, and the implementation of a leap-year method called the “u mol box”. The new set of year-bearers is the same as that followed in the Dream-spell, answering Pacal Votan’s prophecy for the year beginning July 26 2012 to be 7-Cauac, Resonant Storm, while the “u mol box” allows the beginning of the civil year to consistently begin on the solar new-year.”

Note that we have two independent sources corroborating the hypothesis that the Haab calendar is beginning on July 26th and on the easiest day of the year to determine: the solar zenith (maximal solar height in the sky or minimal shadow). Such a starting date seems to be totally logical, as the use by the Mayan priests of the corresponding date of the Julian calendar of solar zenith (July 16th) as a new reference, in order to safeguard the accuracy of the Haab calendar and of the related prophetic calendar against the pendant cultural elimination of all written Mayan documents and the physical genocide in progress of all priests by the Spanish conquistadors.
Their fears and anticipations were largely justified, but their descendants misunderstood their safeguard measure. They simply continued to use the Haab calendar as always, but without applying the due Mayan correction system, that was the reserved domain of the priests and without restarting systematically the Haab year on the July 26th. So they let the Haab calendar slip backwards though the seasons up to the current beginning of the Haab on the February 22nd.

Without applying the due correction, they caused then a complete disconnection between the actual Haab (tropic solar year of 365.2423) the virtual Haab (Vague year of 365 days) combined with the religious Tzolkin calendar (260 days) in the ritual calendar and related to the long count. Therefore they remove any predictive power to the Mayan prophecies and discredited the warning of their ancestors, because such a misunderstanding and misuse of the Mayan calendar have leaded to the prediction of the famous December 21st 2012 as its end date.

There are two methods to reestablish the connection between the actual solar Haab and the prophetic virtual Haab.
The easier method is to trust the report of De Landa and the “testament” of the last Mayan priest for the Haab beginning on July 26th (and the logical hypothesis of the zenith starting). Consulting the table of the Haab months included in this link: [link to www.xibalbacacao.com] , you can see that the Kankin month is starting on April 12th. So April 12th being the day 0 Kankin, the 3 Kankin 4 Ahaw of the Tortuguero prophecy and end of the Long Count Calendar would in fact correspond to Monday April 15th 2013.

A second method is to estimate the omitted corrective leap day since the starting date of the erroneous (and almost universally admitted GMT correlation system), establishing the correspondence between the Mayan ritual calendar and our current Gregorian calendar. [link to mayan-calendar.com] .

As you can read in this document, all the system is constructed on the correspondence between the Julian date 1539 Nov 3rd, and the Mayan date 13 Ahaw 7 Xul (ritual calendar) and 11.7.0.0.0. That correlation is correct for a Haab of 365 days, when corrected every four year with a leap day to remain correlated with the actual solar year. So the ritual calendar is still correct today, but suffer of a considerable advance, because it had to be suspended during those corrective extra-days (a day 6 Wayed; sort of December 32nd /February 29th).

Remember that our clever mayanists assumed that the Mayas let the Haab year drift through the year their civil (agricultural!!!) calendar of 25 days per century, because they couldn’t find a written trace of correction mechanisms, thanks to Diego De Landa, chief inquisitor and associates. Such a calendar is as useful as a broken clock, which is exact two times a day. LOL!

But we have traces of the Aztec mechanisms of correction to a calendar equivalent to the Haab and most probably inherited from the Mayan Haab system. This adjustment system was applied by the Aztecs since 249 ACN (Ante Christum Natum). It’s extremely logical and it was relatively easy to guess basing on the mathematical possibilities and it is near of what I tried to guess in my preceding posts. The only difference is that the leap days are added every four year along with the four year bearers and that probably their purpose.

I couldn’t find a link in English about it, but this is a French link, which nicely describes this correction mechanism. [link to www.discip.crdp.ac-caen.fr] Take a look on the table describing the system on 52 years!

There are 25.2 leap days every Venus cycle of 104 years, adding 0.2423 days to the count, making a corrected Haab year of 365.2423 (tropic solar year = 365.2422).

So it’s highly probable that the Mayas possessed a similar system to corrected their Haab calendar and that the virtual Haab was perfectly corrected and just in time.

You can notice that for the year 1539, the calendar converter (based on the GMT correlation system) gives the beginning of the year (day 0 Pop) for July 27th (+1 day), instead of July 26th and gives the dates 1 Imix (+1 day) 9 Xul (+2 days), instead of 13 Ahaw 7 Xul in the reference date Novembre 3rd (Julian Calendar) of De Landa. So it seems that the converter system is incapable to convert exactly its date of reference. Very good performance!! [link to funaba.org]

But the author of the text sustaining the Jose Arguilles paradigm is mentioning a date of reference of Haab is already biased by the system (+1 day related to the Tzolkin calendar). Though, a correct correspondence (13 Ahaw 7 Xul) would then give a 0 Pop for July 26th. And it would be a great coincidence, if the Mayas had really left their calendar drift through the seasons, that the beginning of the Haab just falls on July 26th in that year of reference.

So we assume that the correspondence of the Haab with the solar topic year was almost perfect and that it began to drift from the year of reference on. So the virtual Haab would be short of:

1 leap-day due to the end of the katun in 1540, according to the text above.
1 leap-day to 1544, which is the last year of a calendar round, but not of a Venus cycle, if we apply the correction system of the Aztec calendar. Then we have an accumulated advance of 2 days in 1544 (+2 days)
12 more leap-days for the calendar round from 1544-1596 (+ 14 days)
25 more leap-days for the Venus cycle 1596-1700 (+39 days)
25 more leap-days for the Venus cycle 1700-1804 (+64 days)
25 more leap-days for the Venus cycle 1804-1908 (+89 days)
25 more leap-days for the Venus cycle 1908-2012 (+114 days)

So the virtual Haab would have taken 114 days of advance related to the tropic solar year, because it hasn’t been duly corrected and the end of the fifth Sun would or rather will occur 114 days after the famous December 21st 2012 on April 14th 2013, if the GMT correlation was correctly calculated (without including the correction mechanism).

The converter gives the correct date for December 21st 2012: 4 Ahaw 3 Kankin, but as I mentioned it gives a wrong date for the starting date: 1 Imix instead of 13 Ahaw, the 13 Ahaw falling at November 2nd. So the actual end with the uncorrected Haab would be in fact the December 22nd, which would push the corrected date for the actual end of the fifth Sun one day farther to April 15th 2013.

Therefore both simply and rather complicated method are leading us to the same D-date:
APRIL 15TH 2013!!!

Finally, the Kankin (yellow smoke) month is named after the smoke made by the traditional burning of the maize field in April. So a 3 Kankin falling April 15th would fit pretty well!

If Don Alejandro was right on the form of the last days of the fourth/fifth Sun, the 4 Ahau 3 Kankin day would correspond at the return of the Sun (of Kukulkan) from the West, meaning that the Sun would change its sense of rotation after an upside down pole shift of Earth, in accordance with the record to Herodotus who told him that the Sun has already changed four times its sense of rotation as a consequence of the Great Cataclysm. The Mayan mythological version of those same events is that the Sun already died four times in the past and returned to live. The current Sun would then be the fifth Sun for the Aztecs and the fourth for the Mayas. But their stories seems to describe the same events that the Egyptian priests.

The three days of Darkness would then begin 60/70 hours before April 15th, perhaps on April 13th, which would fit with the prediction for 2013 March 31st (Julian calendar), corresponding with April 13th in the Gregorian calendar.

I mean tomorrow, probably in the night for Europe. LOL!

you=stupid... look for something and there is nothing on the 15,13...etc..
on the other side: 25/26 april lunar eclipse in scorpio...not cancri...the end of times...(when the time stop not a big deal but all will be in order.)

three eclipses in 2013 full moon on 25...
[link to the-red-thread.net]