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so i rent out a single occupancy apartment.. tenant is sneaky sneaky! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36582160  Canada03/21/2013 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1211208  United States03/21/2013 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No sleepovers? Not cool, not cool at all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24238004 That being said rules are rules. Get 'em. Yeah, its a real tiny apartment, the reason I put no overnight guests was to discourage this from happening. I mention to my tenants when I read the lease aloud, that I'm ok with an occasional guest. I think ill approach her when she comes from work this evening.. Just wonder how ill say it appropriately.. 'Excuse me miss, I've noticed you staying over night frequently, and I'm ok with you doing so for the remanded of tenants lease but ask that you pay me 100 dollars in consideration of the utility costs. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36560442 United States03/21/2013 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1099462  Australia03/21/2013 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1440768 Canada03/21/2013 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some thoughts. When you listed the apartment, did you plan on a price? Did you plan on a different price for 2 people? 3 people? Etc?...probably.not. If he was married say, and they both showed up and said "we're here for the apartment!!" would you have charged them more because its two people? ... Ive never seen an apartment listed with occupancy rates. If the argument is "well its utilities..." , maybe if it was a family or something, but for one person, the fridge doesnt work harder, the furnance etc. Maybe 1 tennant would use twice the power/showers they do. Ive been throufh this before. Im not tearing you down brother, but its unfortunate you see his girlfriend and see dollar signs over being happy for him or making a new friend. They live in your house, close as family. You want these people to be your friends. Or you can play "The landlord" and be treated like any other king...smiles to your face and curses behind your back. Its not my house, its not my life. But if you want an opinion, theres mine. In this crazy enough world, score one for love!!! I guarantee it will make you happier than a lousy 100 bucks! Let it be man!!! Good luck!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36589525  United Kingdom03/21/2013 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lease has area where tenants who occupy apartment go, only one signature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36582160 First night I heard his gf down there, thought ok, maybe just a one night sleepover, enjoy the new place.. 2 weeks have gone by, and I think the girl has never left... The thing is, They are sneaky sneaky.. They are so quiet, that I've never heard them beyond first night or when they do laundry.. the odd time, my gf says she has heard a girl down there... We are upstairs.. apartment is basement. So its like two weeks in and I'm still not totally convinced she's living with him down there. Today, I had to shutoff water so I left a 24 h notice on his door. I must mention he owns a car. So I'm prepping a tiolet to replace and I notice his car is not in driveway, so I try knocking on his door, I immediately hear someone come to answer thinking its the girl, but it was him! So now they have me even more flustered.. if not 15m later, I look outside and a car is in driveway.. not his, its hers... Wtf is going on? I think this dude is coordinating so well with this girl, that he might be parking a street over to make it look less suspecious. So right now, I'm waiting for the girl to leave so I can get a look at her, see if I recognize her from people walking by my street on other occasions so fully verify she has been staying down there. The thing is, they are only here til the end of month, he only subletted one month from my previous tenant.. is it really worth hounding them for 100 bucks and getting them to confess, or just let it be even if I draw the conclusion today that she is staying there. The apartment is priced for single occupancy hence the reason for asking for money, and my lease states no overnight guests and only has tenant as only occupant of the apartment. In the end, I just can't beleive how sneaky they have been. I think you're a fucking freak OP So what! he has a fucking female with him, you're getting your money so STFU The only sneaky shit that's going on is YOU!.....you're sneaking around trying to 'catch them out' You really think you're entitled to MORE money?, when you're getting what you asked for?, a single apartment for a single apartment price, you're a winner already you greedy fuck |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36589525 United Kingdom03/21/2013 02:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36522747 United States03/21/2013 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Excuse me miss, I've noticed you staying over night frequently, and I'm ok with you doing so for the remanded of tenants lease but ask that you pay me 100 dollars in consideration of the utility costs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36582160 Or try saying this: "Excuse me miss, I've noticed you staying over night frequently, and I'm ok with you doing so for the remanded of tenants lease but ask that you give me a BJ in consideration of the utility costs." . |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some thoughts. When you listed the apartment, did you plan on a price? Did you plan on a different price for 2 people? 3 people? Etc?...probably.not. If he was married say, and they both showed up and said "we're here for the apartment!!" would you have charged them more because its two people? ... Ive never seen an apartment listed with occupancy rates. If the argument is "well its utilities..." , maybe if it was a family or something, but for one person, the fridge doesnt work harder, the furnance etc. Maybe 1 tennant would use twice the power/showers they do. Ive been throufh this before. Im not tearing you down brother, but its unfortunate you see his girlfriend and see dollar signs over being happy for him or making a new friend. They live in your house, close as family. You want these people to be your friends. Or you can play "The landlord" and be treated like any other king...smiles to your face and curses behind your back. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1440768 Its not my house, its not my life. But if you want an opinion, theres mine. In this crazy enough world, score one for love!!! I guarantee it will make you happier than a lousy 100 bucks! Let it be man!!! Good luck!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17865384 United States03/21/2013 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Excuse me miss, I've noticed you staying over night frequently, and I'm ok with you doing so for the remanded of tenants lease but ask that you pay me 100 dollars in consideration of the utility costs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36582160 Or try saying this: "Excuse me miss, I've noticed you staying over night frequently, and I'm ok with you doing so for the remanded of tenants lease but ask that you give me a BJ in consideration of the utility costs." .  ------ |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35140188 United Kingdom03/21/2013 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | stop bein such a nobhead... let them live in peace! only thing u got to worry bout is they pay on time and place is clean. how wud you feel if its you... theyre hard up...leave em alone! Lease has area where tenants who occupy apartment go, only one signature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36582160 First night I heard his gf down there, thought ok, maybe just a one night sleepover, enjoy the new place.. 2 weeks have gone by, and I think the girl has never left... The thing is, They are sneaky sneaky.. They are so quiet, that I've never heard them beyond first night or when they do laundry.. the odd time, my gf says she has heard a girl down there... We are upstairs.. apartment is basement. So its like two weeks in and I'm still not totally convinced she's living with him down there. Today, I had to shutoff water so I left a 24 h notice on his door. I must mention he owns a car. So I'm prepping a tiolet to replace and I notice his car is not in driveway, so I try knocking on his door, I immediately hear someone come to answer thinking its the girl, but it was him! So now they have me even more flustered.. if not 15m later, I look outside and a car is in driveway.. not his, its hers... Wtf is going on? I think this dude is coordinating so well with this girl, that he might be parking a street over to make it look less suspecious. So right now, I'm waiting for the girl to leave so I can get a look at her, see if I recognize her from people walking by my street on other occasions so fully verify she has been staying down there. The thing is, they are only here til the end of month, he only subletted one month from my previous tenant.. is it really worth hounding them for 100 bucks and getting them to confess, or just let it be even if I draw the conclusion today that she is staying there. The apartment is priced for single occupancy hence the reason for asking for money, and my lease states no overnight guests and only has tenant as only occupant of the apartment. In the end, I just can't beleive how sneaky they have been. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36578386 Australia03/21/2013 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One month lease is no problem really. I would just ask them up front and try asking for extra money for the extra person. Maybe they will pay up just so they can stay . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462 They are quite guests , so thats a huge plus wow Rental are priced on the going rate for what they are in the area-not how many people are living in it.Asking for extra money is illegal because of the price the lease is stated at. OP-youre being a creep. and i agree with the other poster -the only sneaky one is you. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In response to above, yes, apartment is priced for one person, and yes I make it clear on signing that it is a single occupancy apartment and the tenant signs an area on lease that states occupants; only himself. I have turned down couples as well, its a small space. But I agree, that in consideration that they are only here until the end of the month that its not worth wrecking the fact that all is well. I might still mention that I'm aware of it, I don't know, I'm still pissed off, water is retardedly expensive now adays .. woman like to have showers and wash one pair of jeans everyday. |
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User ID: 27778286 United States03/21/2013 03:03 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No sleepovers? Not cool, not cool at all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24238004 That being said rules are rules. Get 'em. Yeah, its a real tiny apartment, the reason I put no overnight guests was to discourage this from happening. I mention to my tenants when I read the lease aloud, that I'm ok with an occasional guest. I think ill approach her when she comes from work this evening.. Just wonder how ill say it appropriately.. 'Excuse me miss, I've noticed you staying over night frequently, and I'm ok with you doing so for the remanded of tenants lease but ask that you pay me 100 dollars in consideration of the utility costs. First, change your lease to refuse sublets with your next renter. I would never give control over to renter to say who was living on the same property as myself. Remember the boiling rabbit, Pacific Heights or The Babysitter? If it is already the case...you need to have a serious chat with your renter. She violated her lease. If you are in rent control, she could be out on the streets! Since you are screwed for this sublet, you might as well just go with the flow. Knock on the door when you think both are there and you fess up. You and your partner have heard his girlfriend there. You haven't been too nosy if she is there a lot but if she is, you would appreciate them to just continue to be courteous and keep the noise level the same. If she is staying the night, more than just the weekends, if they sublet next time, she'll have to go on the lease next time, so everything is legal, in case someone get's hurt or needs emergency services. You would just prefer people living in honesty than having them feel like they need to sneak around. Or...do nothing and wait for the next 10 days to be over. As above, so below. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36226622 Australia03/21/2013 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24794489 Canada03/21/2013 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who cares? I hate landlords like you Once you said they make no noise I'd leave them alone...At least they have courtesy to be as respectful as possible since there is an extra person life can be hard sometimes money isn't always there...do it for good karma...It's probably his wife...it's only a month, they make no noise..just let it go |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 03:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One month lease is no problem really. I would just ask them up front and try asking for extra money for the extra person. Maybe they will pay up just so they can stay . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462 They are quite guests , so thats a huge plus wow Rental are priced on the going rate for what they are in the area-not how many people are living in it.Asking for extra money is illegal because of the price the lease is stated at. OP-youre being a creep. and i agree with the other poster -the only sneaky one is you. You're a goof, so what, where do you draw the line? The renter does not have go live here, if he doesnt like the lease that is his choice, it states single occupancy. Help move the family in, right? 600 a month / by 10 people, 60 bucks a head, perfect! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36226622 Australia03/21/2013 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In response to above, yes, apartment is priced for one person, and yes I make it clear on signing that it is a single occupancy apartment and the tenant signs an area on lease that states occupants; only himself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36582160 I have turned down couples as well, its a small space. But I agree, that in consideration that they are only here until the end of the month that its not worth wrecking the fact that all is well. I might still mention that I'm aware of it, I don't know, I'm still pissed off, water is retardedly expensive now adays .. woman like to have showers and wash one pair of jeans everyday. Why the fuck are you paying for his water you retard?? He is supposed to pay water usage and sewage disposal!! You pay the fee rates for drainage to property etc. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36226622 Australia03/21/2013 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One month lease is no problem really. I would just ask them up front and try asking for extra money for the extra person. Maybe they will pay up just so they can stay . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462 They are quite guests , so thats a huge plus wow Rental are priced on the going rate for what they are in the area-not how many people are living in it.Asking for extra money is illegal because of the price the lease is stated at. OP-youre being a creep. and i agree with the other poster -the only sneaky one is you. You're a goof, so what, where do you draw the line? The renter does not have go live here, if he doesnt like the lease that is his choice, it states single occupancy. Help move the family in, right? 600 a month / by 10 people, 60 bucks a head, perfect! You can not charge per head its illegal you fucking moron cheap skate dick brain! |
| COINTELPRO Agent
User ID: 31620383 United States03/21/2013 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What you want to do is install hidden cameras. Then confront them with the evidence, and give them a choice: the breaking wheel, or the iron maiden! That'll show 'em... Are you Indian, by any chance? Expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize... |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 03:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is such a thing called stalking you may want to look it up before you end up in Jail. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36226622 Stalking? Lol, and you guys consider adding cameras to a single apartment complex, and you consider looking out the window in my own home and making an observation, nice one troll! |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If i rented out an apartment of mine, for single occupancy, and i got my single occupancy money on time every month i wouldnt give a fuck if he had a whole football team living with him, if he wants to SHARE what HE IS PAYING FOR and be overcrowded...thats his lookout Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36589525 I can see how that makes sense to you, nog owning any properties and making assumptions like yours. Good luck signing any legal binding document and whining to your lawyer that just because it says one thing you can do whatever you want. Grow up, maybe get a credit card and balance that first. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36578386 Australia03/21/2013 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In response to above, yes, apartment is priced for one person, and yes I make it clear on signing that it is a single occupancy apartment and the tenant signs an area on lease that states occupants; only himself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36582160 I have turned down couples as well, its a small space. But I agree, that in consideration that they are only here until the end of the month that its not worth wrecking the fact that all is well. I might still mention that I'm aware of it, I don't know, I'm still pissed off, water is retardedly expensive now adays .. woman like to have showers and wash one pair of jeans everyday. Here(in Oz) you may be in breach of duty for stalking/harassment(legal) and therefore denying tenant quiet and peaceable enjoyment of the premises(tenancy act). You have a point that the lease is for one person-hopwver you cannot approach the fact you know theres someone else there without possibly putting yourself in beach for HOW you know that. Here you can only even do an inspection after the first 6months of a lease has passed and with 7 days written notice.That must be agreed on by the tenant. Lastly water which i assume you pay for because there isnt a separate meter for the rental-it wouldnt matter how much the tenant used as theres no way you can say whos used what unless people have their own meters. lastly your a greedy busybody. single occupancy could well apply to the fact it has one bedroom-not only one person can rent it.Miser. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14494585 United States03/21/2013 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lease has area where tenants who occupy apartment go, only one signature. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36582160 First night I heard his gf down there, thought ok, maybe just a one night sleepover, enjoy the new place.. 2 weeks have gone by, and I think the girl has never left... The thing is, They are sneaky sneaky.. They are so quiet, that I've never heard them beyond first night or when they do laundry.. the odd time, my gf says she has heard a girl down there... We are upstairs.. apartment is basement. So its like two weeks in and I'm still not totally convinced she's living with him down there. Today, I had to shutoff water so I left a 24 h notice on his door. I must mention he owns a car. So I'm prepping a tiolet to replace and I notice his car is not in driveway, so I try knocking on his door, I immediately hear someone come to answer thinking its the girl, but it was him! So now they have me even more flustered.. if not 15m later, I look outside and a car is in driveway.. not his, its hers... Wtf is going on? I think this dude is coordinating so well with this girl, that he might be parking a street over to make it look less suspecious. So right now, I'm waiting for the girl to leave so I can get a look at her, see if I recognize her from people walking by my street on other occasions so fully verify she has been staying down there. The thing is, they are only here til the end of month, he only subletted one month from my previous tenant.. is it really worth hounding them for 100 bucks and getting them to confess, or just let it be even if I draw the conclusion today that she is staying there. The apartment is priced for single occupancy hence the reason for asking for money, and my lease states no overnight guests and only has tenant as only occupant of the apartment. In the end, I just can't beleive how sneaky they have been. I think you're a fucking freak OP So what! he has a fucking female with him, you're getting your money so STFU The only sneaky shit that's going on is YOU!.....you're sneaking around trying to 'catch them out' You really think you're entitled to MORE money?, when you're getting what you asked for?, a single apartment for a single apartment price, you're a winner already you greedy fuck Clearly you are a person like most flamers in this thread who would sign something without bothering to read it because they figure its just generic. Good luck. Tenant signed a lease and hes not meeting it. Would it help you understand if he failed to meet one other statement on the lease? In the end, I'm just trying to enforce the lease |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No sleepovers? Not cool, not cool at all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24238004 That being said rules are rules. Get 'em. Yeah, its a real tiny apartment, the reason I put no overnight guests was to discourage this from happening. I mention to my tenants when I read the lease aloud, that I'm ok with an occasional guest. I think ill approach her when she comes from work this evening.. Just wonder how ill say it appropriately.. 'Excuse me miss, I've noticed you staying over night frequently, and I'm ok with you doing so for the remanded of tenants lease but ask that you pay me 100 dollars in consideration of the utility costs. First, change your lease to refuse sublets with your next renter. I would never give control over to renter to say who was living on the same property as myself. Remember the boiling rabbit, Pacific Heights or The Babysitter? If it is already the case...you need to have a serious chat with your renter. She violated her lease. If you are in rent control, she could be out on the streets! Since you are screwed for this sublet, you might as well just go with the flow. Knock on the door when you think both are there and you fess up. You and your partner have heard his girlfriend there. You haven't been too nosy if she is there a lot but if she is, you would appreciate them to just continue to be courteous and keep the noise level the same. If she is staying the night, more than just the weekends, if they sublet next time, she'll have to go on the lease next time, so everything is legal, in case someone get's hurt or needs emergency services. You would just prefer people living in honesty than having them feel like they need to sneak around. Or...do nothing and wait for the next 10 days to be over. Thanks for a legitimate and knowledgable response.. even if I don't ask for money, its just important her name is on occupancy list. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36582160 Canada03/21/2013 03:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One month lease is no problem really. I would just ask them up front and try asking for extra money for the extra person. Maybe they will pay up just so they can stay . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1099462 They are quite guests , so thats a huge plus wow Rental are priced on the going rate for what they are in the area-not how many people are living in it.Asking for extra money is illegal because of the price the lease is stated at. OP-youre being a creep. and i agree with the other poster -the only sneaky one is you. You're a goof, so what, where do you draw the line? The renter does not have go live here, if he doesnt like the lease that is his choice, it states single occupancy. Help move the family in, right? 600 a month / by 10 people, 60 bucks a head, perfect! You can not charge per head its illegal you fucking moron cheap skate dick brain! Relax. Apartment lease is for single occupancy. Nothing more. I'm not attempting to charge per head, I only am considering it because lease has been exploited. |
