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WOW!! **Researchers developing 3D printer, 'bio-ink' to create human organs ** | |
| ~Andariel~
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 35286220  Canada03/09/2013 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soon you will be able to order a set of lungs or a heart to be printed to your specification. 3D printing is shaping up to be one hell of an industry. Whats next?  March 9 2013 Researchers developing 3D printer, 'bio-ink' to create human organs "The second branch of the group involves biomanufacturing and is led by my colleague and AMTecH co-director Ibrahim Ozbolat, assistant professor of mechanical and industrial engineering," says Marler. "The long-term goal of this branch is to create functioning human organs some five or 10 years from now. This is not far-fetched." Read more at: [link to phys.org] Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
| BRIEF
User ID: 35833055  United States03/09/2013 10:58 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.latimes.com] I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.  |
| ~Andariel~
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| NSF001
User ID: 35832050  United Kingdom03/09/2013 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw this recently, heriot-watt the uni involved is just up the road from me. Basically organs can be printed from stem cells. Given stem cells are becoming more and more readily avaliable this could change everything. [link to www.hw.ac.uk] Last Edited by NSF001 on 03/09/2013 11:03 AM I don't think so, he's up there with the others laying low, vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul, |
| NSF001
User ID: 35832050 United Kingdom03/09/2013 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ~Andariel~ I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. I don't think so, he's up there with the others laying low, vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul, |
| BRIEF
User ID: 35833055 United States03/09/2013 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ~Andariel~ Not for me, God gave us the intelligence to create such things to improve our lives , to not use it when needed would be an insult. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| ~Andariel~
(OP) User ID: 35286220 Canada03/09/2013 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I saw this recently, heriot-watt the uni involved is just up the road from me. Basically organs can be printed from stem cells. Given stem cells are becoming more and more readily avaliable this could change everything. Quoting: NSF001 [link to www.hw.ac.uk] I whole wholehearted agree! Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
| BRIEF
User ID: 35833055 United States03/09/2013 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ~Andariel~ I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| ~Andariel~
(OP) User ID: 35286220 Canada03/09/2013 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ~Andariel~ I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. At this point in time and at the current level of technology available today, I agree with you. Unfortunately DNA manipulation is done everyday in labs allover the world. Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
| NSF001
User ID: 35832050 United Kingdom03/09/2013 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ~Andariel~ I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. I don't think so, he's up there with the others laying low, vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul, |
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| BRIEF
User ID: 35833055 United States03/09/2013 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Growing organs from stem cells and stem cell research is fine as long as aborted babies are not used...including laboratory grown embryos. Last Edited by BRIEF on 03/09/2013 11:27 AM I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| ~Andariel~
(OP) User ID: 35286220 Canada03/09/2013 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Well, if this 3D printing technology does become main stream I guess it will come down to "if" you can afford it at first. I'm guessing that like any tech introduced today, prices will come down to the point where just about anyone will be able to afford an organ. However you still have to pay a skilled surgeon for the actual transplant. Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
| BRIEF
User ID: 35833055 United States03/09/2013 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NSF001 I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Well, if this 3D printing technology does become main stream I guess it will come down to "if" you can afford it at first. I'm guessing that like any tech introduced today, prices will come down to the point where just about anyone will be able to afford an organ. However you still have to pay a skilled surgeon for the actual transplant. Nah, I'll just have a whole clone of me waiting for a head transplant...when this body is done they will just sew my head on the new me :) I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| ~Andariel~
(OP) User ID: 35286220 Canada03/09/2013 11:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Well, if this 3D printing technology does become main stream I guess it will come down to "if" you can afford it at first. I'm guessing that like any tech introduced today, prices will come down to the point where just about anyone will be able to afford an organ. However you still have to pay a skilled surgeon for the actual transplant. Nah, I'll just have a whole clone of me waiting for a head transplant...when this body is done they will just sew my head on the new me :) "Who wants to live forever" Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
| ~Andariel~
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 961432 United States03/09/2013 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NSF001 I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Well, if this 3D printing technology does become main stream I guess it will come down to "if" you can afford it at first. I'm guessing that like any tech introduced today, prices will come down to the point where just about anyone will be able to afford an organ. However you still have to pay a skilled surgeon for the actual transplant. Nanobots accessing 3-d printers man. The world is running amuck.  |
| veracious common sense
User ID: 1462016 Canada03/09/2013 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the wave of the future. slowly to begin weeding out the need for humankind. amazing technology but very scary to think were it could, and most likely will lead too. "we must make the world honest before we can honestly say to the children that honesty is the best policy! " George Bernard Shaw. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9066073 United States03/09/2013 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Well, if this 3D printing technology does become main stream I guess it will come down to "if" you can afford it at first. I'm guessing that like any tech introduced today, prices will come down to the point where just about anyone will be able to afford an organ. However you still have to pay a skilled surgeon for the actual transplant. Nah, I'll just have a whole clone of me waiting for a head transplant...when this body is done they will just sew my head on the new me :) But..but..you believe in Jebus and think you're going to Heaven, so why would you want to live on Earth longer than you need to? |
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| Soph User ID: 35837753  Denmark03/09/2013 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NSF001 I expect some religious people will have the same issues with this as they do cloning. Playing around with genetics is a different issue, selective breeding of animals and plants is fine, but when you mess with DNA God gets pissed. I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Well, if this 3D printing technology does become main stream I guess it will come down to "if" you can afford it at first. I'm guessing that like any tech introduced today, prices will come down to the point where just about anyone will be able to afford an organ. However you still have to pay a skilled surgeon for the actual transplant. I've been posting about this for years. We all have the stemcells necessary to repair anything in our body. The Russians science would astound you. Their tools are intelligent and work with the users/doctors heart/mind and intention... sort of sci-fi tech, kind of like the Montauk Chair can be controlled by mental power. They can rebuild the hardest material in the body - teeths. What next step will be are PURE ENERGY MEDICINE with hologram robotics, kind of like seen in this movie. (as you all in the know are aware about, we are pure energy) [link to www.youtube.com] But I guess the fascists in top echelon will put the lid on as usual - as the only way those evil freaks use this tech for is to mindfuck and assault humans with, and it's kept secluded to repairing the elite reptilian aliens bodies....  |
| ~Andariel~
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| Soph User ID: 35837753 Denmark03/09/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is the early stages of the replicator technology from star trek. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33984290 We already have that.... not officially though.  In the field of Atom-engineering, the buildingblocks of life are used and it builds up anything almost like in organ-printing in 3D printers... it's about building/designing anything from the atoms up to finished product... Alchemy. This might interest you: TECH v2012: Energy, Replicators, and Starships - Adam Apollo Our current technological development is reaching an apex, seemingly only limited by the physical constraints of this universe. Yet our entire structure of physical understanding is undergoing a massive transformation, as new theories and equations succeed in describing the spacetime fabric as a lattice of wormholes connecting everything simultaneously. An award winning paper in Physics from the revered CASYS conference in Belgium shows that small black holes could lie at the center of every proton, and all matter, replacing the strong and weak force with gravity. These new physics focusing on the spacetime structure reveal that we could engage and adjust the fabric itself, changing localized gravity and accessing energy in extremely efficient ways. Science fiction technologies like replicators, free energy systems, and gravity drives now appear to be completely possible to produce. This talk explores these new technologies emerging from recent physics insights, and the effect they would have on the entire structure of human life and society. It also covers the practical challenges in development and implementation of these technologies from physics and engineering perspectives. More Information: [link to adamapollo.info] [link to www.youtube.com] |
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| ~Andariel~
(OP) User ID: 35286220 Canada03/09/2013 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ~Andariel~ LMFAO you said ethical!!! As if ethics were of any value to humans anymore. Correct! Ethics are fading away but some still use that word as a shield against the unknown. Space, the final frontier...or is it? Knowledge is power |
| pinkshirtguy
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| BRIEF
User ID: 35837315 United States03/09/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NSF001 I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Well, if this 3D printing technology does become main stream I guess it will come down to "if" you can afford it at first. I'm guessing that like any tech introduced today, prices will come down to the point where just about anyone will be able to afford an organ. However you still have to pay a skilled surgeon for the actual transplant. Nah, I'll just have a whole clone of me waiting for a head transplant...when this body is done they will just sew my head on the new me :) "Who wants to live forever" Not forever, but I'd like an insurance policy just in case this body gets squished... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
| BRIEF
User ID: 35837315 United States03/09/2013 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: NSF001 I'm really not sure where the line comes is. For me, this is alright, especially if stem cells can be taken/made from blood as recent research suggests. GM shit though, I don't trust. But that's a different issue. Another potential moral issue would be, for example George Best, a footballer and alcoholic. He kept drinking after receiving a liver transplant and killed himself, that liver could have went to somebody else who may not have abused it. I don't suppose that's such an issue in the US, given unlimited organs and no donors required then sure, take as many as you need as long as you can afford a surgeon to fire it in for you. Well, if this 3D printing technology does become main stream I guess it will come down to "if" you can afford it at first. I'm guessing that like any tech introduced today, prices will come down to the point where just about anyone will be able to afford an organ. However you still have to pay a skilled surgeon for the actual transplant. Nah, I'll just have a whole clone of me waiting for a head transplant...when this body is done they will just sew my head on the new me :) But..but..you believe in Jebus and think you're going to Heaven, so why would you want to live on Earth longer than you need to? Just a backup...and that's why the soul must be in the brain, the mind... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
