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They faked it ! The Moon Landing !!

 
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this photo says a lot

[link to www.hq.nasa.gov]

notice there is no mark from the landing thruster...and the thrusters di9dn't even blow away the moon dust...there is still enough moon dust to leave footprints.
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putin

Good lord, that isn't house or desert dust. That stuff has been there for billions of years and has undergone compaction over all that time. Once again no logic at all.

Oh yeah listen to the landing and Armstrong does say kicking up dust.

Too bad that they didn't send up a black tranny, then none of you idiots would dispute the Moon landing.
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good lord, my ass. you believe that armstrong could talk over the 10,000 pound thruster? and you think that thruster didn't leave a mark? and you think it left a bunch of lose dirt? all kinds of logic.
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The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


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Was Kubrick even shooting 2001 when Nixon was president as alleged?

2001 Release date April 2, 1968 (Premiere)

Nixon becomes president in 1969 you stupid dooshTards
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This poor fellow has never heard of motion picture film. You see it works this way. You photograph images onto it and it stays preserved over a long period of time. That would mean that the shooting of the landing probably took place many years before Nixon became President. This is the most stupid comment of all.
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The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


MORE INFO HERE
[link to www.braeunig.us]
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There are satellites photos from other than US satellites of lunar equipment
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That is absolutely no evidence. Our current techniques are considerably more advanced than at that time. This flag can perhaps be put down recently.
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That means we do have the technlogy to go to moon, and this fact shuts up a large part of consp. theorists who dont believe we have the technology.
Now only the ones who believe we used alien tech and the ones who think we went to moon later are left. I guess thats progress.
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No, it seems the poster was referring to "photoshop" technology, to manipulate images. Not technology to go to the moon. That is why I would not trust images even if they supposedly "exist" either.
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The only sure way to prove the moon landings really happened is to return to the Moon and see if the Apollo hardware is there.

Direct visual verification would certainly put an end to the issue, however there are at least three pieces of hardware on the Moon that are not in dispute. Apollos 11, 14 and 15 erected laser reflectors on the lunar surface. Laser beams are routinely fired at these reflectors through telescopes at McDonald Observatory in Texas and near Grasse in southern France. Timings of these reflected beams are used to measure the Earth-Moon distance to an accuracy of one inch. To explain the existence of these reflectors the hoax advocates have no choice but to claim they were placed on the Moon by robotic landers; a huge undertaking for which there is no supporting evidence. The simple answer: the Apollo astronauts placed them there. (More on robotic missions later.)


MORE INFO HERE
[link to www.braeunig.us]
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There are satellites photos from other than US satellites of lunar equipment
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That is absolutely no evidence. Our current techniques are considerably more advanced than at that time. This flag can perhaps be put down recently.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27459048

That means we do have the technlogy to go to moon, and this fact shuts up a large part of consp. theorists who dont believe we have the technology.
Now only the ones who believe we used alien tech and the ones who think we went to moon later are left. I guess thats progress.
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My writing does not necessarily mean that we now have the technology. I did use the word "perhaps".
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Compaction? There is nothing to compact Moon dust.
That is why I think you can't land anything on the Moon.
It would just disappear like quicksand the minute you
put any weight on it.
It's why a inch wide pebble makes a crater as wide as a football field. There is no compaction.

The video of people walking on the lunar surface only
making a half inch deep depression is fake.

An astronaut in reality would probably sink below the surface in under 2 minutes flat.
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Lunar quakes over billions of years would compact all voids except perhaps a fraction of an inch of surface. Especially since there is no atmosphere to interfere with the process.

BTW, even Hoaxy Hoagland laughs at this MoonTarding.
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Don't be so retarded.
Lunar quakes if they occur would not compact the surface but would assure it stayed silted and churned up.
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I saw what I saw on TV in '69 and formed an opinion that it reeked of propaganda.

My grandfather, "Jack" Allen, who was a lead electrical engineer for Howard Hughes, confirmed it was fraud in front of the whole family that same day.

That also influenced my opinion.
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I think gramps was pulling your leg. Lots of people tell BS stories.

BTW, lead electrical engineer could very well mean he was a drafter and in charge of some young drafters that mostly folded blue prints.

Kubrick filmed 2001 well before Nixon became president. The whole Nixon did it is total idiocy.
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The film was shot between 1964 and 1966 during the making f 2001. You are a seriously stupid person.
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It's interesting that when the apollo capsules returned to Earth they also ditched in the ocean. If they could land a ship so perfectly on the moon, why couldn't they have returned the capsule onto the ground here rather than always ditch in the ocean? Maybe it's legit, but maybe it's also because they really didn't have the ability, just as this guy in the video says, to do the landing the way it's been portrayed. Bottom line is: all we know about our government is that it lies about EVERYTHING repeatedly and compulsively, and without independent verification, we literally cannot believe anything that has come out of the American government at least since the end of WW2.

That's really what it comes down to.....not necessarily just endless conspiracy theories....just a complete lack of belief in ANYTHING they tell us. This would include their whores in the media too who just promote whatever they're told by those controlling the agenda.
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I'm thinking WWI. Or maybe around 1913.
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Yup, probably even before that...say around 1860? They've been lying to us FOREVER and people just keep believing the codswallop because it's easier and it makes them feel "patriotic" - something that actual intelligent, thinking people don't engage in. It's one thing to have love and pride in your country and people, but NO ONE SHOULD EVER LOVE OR TRUST THEIR GOVERNMENT. EVER. Government should always be distrusted as those in it have massive motivation to lie, cheat and steal, and little motivation towards honesty. There's no profit in it.
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I am a pilot and engineer who was in the Air Force. I have studied every detail of aviation and space travel since I was 5 years old. I have a stack of books about the Apollo and Gemini programs going back 30 years.

I have been to the Smithsonian several times to see all the exhibits and I have been to the "non-public" space exhibits as well because my grandfather was a Captain in the navy and a Naval astrophysicist.

AND, I knew one of the Astronauts (Col. Mike Anderson) killed in the shuttle re-entry breakup from the Air Force.

The only things I can say on this subject with 100% certainty are:

There were a HELL of a lot of jobs created in order to build all of that moon stuff so no engineer would question it.

We are actually able to put satellites and shuttles in orbit - I have seen the ISS in orbit with my own eyes.

There some pretty damning videos and pictures of the Apollo stuff - such as guys in the moon falling over and magically being pulled upright.


My advice is to keep an open mind and question anything you see on TV or anything claimed by the government.

The first order of business for all military and government personnel is the BRAINWASH THEM with the current party line.

It is very difficult IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE for some gov. employees to EVER deprogram themselves once they are out.

Combine that with millions of dollars in secret payoffs and legal immunity plus a threat that "if you talk, we'll give your wife and kids cancer" and you see how a hoax COULD persist forever.

same deal with 9/11 :P
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Was Kubrick even shooting 2001 when Nixon was president as alleged?

2001 Release date April 2, 1968 (Premiere)

Nixon becomes president in 1969 you stupid dooshTards
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This poor fellow has never heard of motion picture film. You see it works this way. You photograph images onto it and it stays preserved over a long period of time. That would mean that the shooting of the landing probably took place many years before Nixon became President. This is the most stupid comment of all.
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Look dooshTard, the conspiracy states that Nixon hoaxed up the Moon walk film using Kubricks set to ensure that they had film of astronauts walking around.

Now numbskulls say we didn't even go because we didn't have the technology to make black trannies good enough to go to the Moon back then before iphones to watch honey boo beiber.
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But you guys already knew this...on to the next one! bump
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I am a pilot and engineer who was in the Air Force. I have studied every detail of aviation and space travel since I was 5 years old. I have a stack of books about the Apollo and Gemini programs going back 30 years.

I have been to the Smithsonian several times to see all the exhibits and I have been to the "non-public" space exhibits as well because my grandfather was a Captain in the navy and a Naval astrophysicist.

AND, I knew one of the Astronauts (Col. Mike Anderson) killed in the shuttle re-entry breakup from the Air Force.

The only things I can say on this subject with 100% certainty are:

There were a HELL of a lot of jobs created in order to build all of that moon stuff so no engineer would question it.

We are actually able to put satellites and shuttles in orbit - I have seen the ISS in orbit with my own eyes.

There some pretty damning videos and pictures of the Apollo stuff - such as guys in the moon falling over and magically being pulled upright.


My advice is to keep an open mind and question anything you see on TV or anything claimed by the government.

The first order of business for all military and government personnel is the BRAINWASH THEM with the current party line.

It is very difficult IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE for some gov. employees to EVER deprogram themselves once they are out.

Combine that with millions of dollars in secret payoffs and legal immunity plus a threat that "if you talk, we'll give your wife and kids cancer" and you see how a hoax COULD persist forever.

same deal with 9/11 :P
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Oh shit here comes the Judy WoodTards
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The shills are out but the truth will win. Kubrick directed the landing between 1964 and 1966 while using 2001 A Space Odyssey as a cover. See Kubrick's Odyssey.

The film was then edited and readied for the fake event. Nixon had nothing to do with it and might have even thought it was all real.

Not all the effects were front screen projection. Huge sets were built with large photographs in the background so they could move cameras on the lunar rover.

In the end it was all faked.
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I saw what I saw on TV in '69 and formed an opinion that it reeked of propaganda.

My grandfather, "Jack" Allen, who was a lead electrical engineer for Howard Hughes, confirmed it was fraud in front of the whole family that same day.

That also influenced my opinion.
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I think gramps was pulling your leg. Lots of people tell BS stories.

BTW, lead electrical engineer could very well mean he was a drafter and in charge of some young drafters that mostly folded blue prints.

Kubrick filmed 2001 well before Nixon became president. The whole Nixon did it is total idiocy.
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The film was shot between 1964 and 1966 during the making f 2001. You are a seriously stupid person.
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you are a pick
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Yes they faked the moon landing, but have been going to the moon ever since 40+ years..

Now can anyone tell me what they are doing up there :) ?
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Yes they faked the moon landing, but have been going to the moon ever since 40+ years..

Now can anyone tell me what they are doing up there :) ?
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watching us.
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I saw what I saw on TV in '69 and formed an opinion that it reeked of propaganda.

My grandfather, "Jack" Allen, who was a lead electrical engineer for Howard Hughes, confirmed it was fraud in front of the whole family that same day.

That also influenced my opinion.
 Quoting: ehecatl


I think gramps was pulling your leg. Lots of people tell BS stories.

BTW, lead electrical engineer could very well mean he was a drafter and in charge of some young drafters that mostly folded blue prints.

Kubrick filmed 2001 well before Nixon became president. The whole Nixon did it is total idiocy.
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The film was shot between 1964 and 1966 during the making f 2001. You are a seriously stupid person.
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you are a pick
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that's your response? I am sorry that you do not understand how film works.
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Yes they faked the moon landing, but have been going to the moon ever since 40+ years..

Now can anyone tell me what they are doing up there :) ?
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That's my view also !
Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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Yes they faked the moon landing, but have been going to the moon ever since 40+ years..

Now can anyone tell me what they are doing up there :) ?
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watching us.
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Yes and preparing.
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It's interesting how the posters who don't think the moon landings were real all sound very intelligent and knowledgeable and literate enough to write in complete sentences, whereas the moon landing supporters sound, well.... retarded and quite illiterate. I wonder why this would be....are their responses being written by some poorly executed computer program? They certainly don't give me much confidence in the state of "science" these days.
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I met Buzz Aldrin during the week, he was in Dublin. I asked him why they faked the moon landings. He angrily said 'You don't know shit' and stalked off with his handlers.

I did it for GLP folks.
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Thank you for making us all look like dipshits. Buzz was right. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.
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I am a pilot and engineer who was in the Air Force. I have studied every detail of aviation and space travel since I was 5 years old. I have a stack of books about the Apollo and Gemini programs going back 30 years.

I have been to the Smithsonian several times to see all the exhibits and I have been to the "non-public" space exhibits as well because my grandfather was a Captain in the navy and a Naval astrophysicist.

AND, I knew one of the Astronauts (Col. Mike Anderson) killed in the shuttle re-entry breakup from the Air Force.

The only things I can say on this subject with 100% certainty are:

There were a HELL of a lot of jobs created in order to build all of that moon stuff so no engineer would question it.

We are actually able to put satellites and shuttles in orbit - I have seen the ISS in orbit with my own eyes.

There some pretty damning videos and pictures of the Apollo stuff - such as guys in the moon falling over and magically being pulled upright.


My advice is to keep an open mind and question anything you see on TV or anything claimed by the government.

The first order of business for all military and government personnel is the BRAINWASH THEM with the current party line.

It is very difficult IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE for some gov. employees to EVER deprogram themselves once they are out.

Combine that with millions of dollars in secret payoffs and legal immunity plus a threat that "if you talk, we'll give your wife and kids cancer" and you see how a hoax COULD persist forever.

same deal with 9/11 :P
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Excellent, excellent points, especially about the motivation of current or former govt employees involved in these scams. If they continue to play ball, they get all kinds of jobs and money and perks. If they DON'T play ball, or become "difficult" they could have their careers and lives destroyed, even be murdered, possibly along with their families, just as you say. Lot of dead whistle blowers out there. Not much motivation to tell the truth from the inside.
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It's interesting how the posters who don't think the moon landings were real all sound very intelligent and knowledgeable and literate enough to write in complete sentences, whereas the moon landing supporters sound, well.... retarded and quite illiterate. I wonder why this would be....are their responses being written by some poorly executed computer program? They certainly don't give me much confidence in the state of "science" these days.
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Some clown named Liar liar pants on fire is commenting about others? Puhleeeze.

Just admit that you are a MoonTard that even Richard C Hoaxland laughs at. Even a guy like him couldn't latch on to that idiocy and make a dime on it.
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I met Buzz Aldrin during the week, he was in Dublin. I asked him why they faked the moon landings. He angrily said 'You don't know shit' and stalked off with his handlers.

I did it for GLP folks.
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Thank you for making us all look like dipshits. Buzz was right. YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT.
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I take it then that Buzz "knows shit". I don't doubt that.
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I am a pilot and engineer who was in the Air Force. I have studied every detail of aviation and space travel since I was 5 years old. I have a stack of books about the Apollo and Gemini programs going back 30 years.

I have been to the Smithsonian several times to see all the exhibits and I have been to the "non-public" space exhibits as well because my grandfather was a Captain in the navy and a Naval astrophysicist.

AND, I knew one of the Astronauts (Col. Mike Anderson) killed in the shuttle re-entry breakup from the Air Force.

The only things I can say on this subject with 100% certainty are:

There were a HELL of a lot of jobs created in order to build all of that moon stuff so no engineer would question it.

We are actually able to put satellites and shuttles in orbit - I have seen the ISS in orbit with my own eyes.

There some pretty damning videos and pictures of the Apollo stuff - such as guys in the moon falling over and magically being pulled upright.


My advice is to keep an open mind and question anything you see on TV or anything claimed by the government.

The first order of business for all military and government personnel is the BRAINWASH THEM with the current party line.

It is very difficult IF NOT IMPOSSIBLE for some gov. employees to EVER deprogram themselves once they are out.

Combine that with millions of dollars in secret payoffs and legal immunity plus a threat that "if you talk, we'll give your wife and kids cancer" and you see how a hoax COULD persist forever.

same deal with 9/11 :P
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35670267




Excellent, excellent points, especially about the motivation of current or former govt employees involved in these scams. If they continue to play ball, they get all kinds of jobs and money and perks. If they DON'T play ball, or become "difficult" they could have their careers and lives destroyed, even be murdered, possibly along with their families, just as you say. Lot of dead whistle blowers out there. Not much motivation to tell the truth from the inside.
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wtf

450,000 people worked on a project to go to the Moon but they all faked it and they all kept quite about it, mmmmm k
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...an interesting angle you rarely hear mentioned from "either" side.
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It's interesting how the posters who don't think the moon landings were real all sound very intelligent and knowledgeable and literate enough to write in complete sentences, whereas the moon landing supporters sound, well.... retarded and quite illiterate. I wonder why this would be....are their responses being written by some poorly executed computer program? They certainly don't give me much confidence in the state of "science" these days.
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It reflects the generation and education level of most paid shills these days.
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stupid idiots!!! the moon has less gravity and there is no atmosphere!! the rockets dispersed IMMEDIATELY!! stupid ppl!
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Prove it.
Wild Weasels? You've got to be shitting me!
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It's interesting how the posters who don't think the moon landings were real all sound very intelligent and knowledgeable and literate enough to write in complete sentences, whereas the moon landing supporters sound, well.... retarded and quite illiterate. I wonder why this would be....are their responses being written by some poorly executed computer program? They certainly don't give me much confidence in the state of "science" these days.
 Quoting: Liar liar pants on fire 1524722


Some clown named Liar liar pants on fire is commenting about others? Puhleeeze.

Just admit that you are a MoonTard that even Richard C Hoaxland laughs at. Even a guy like him couldn't latch on to that idiocy and make a dime on it.
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Seriously...you all sound like mouth-breathing, drooling, brass plated idiots. You really do. I presume your agenda is just plain ridicule as you have...no actual arguments to support your position other than....saying that the whores and bullies of the government media complex say so and how could we question the perceived reality of the 1960s... I'm sure you also believe that Oswald killed Kennedy, now dontcha?. Really, when you have to cite someone as pathetic as Richard Hoagland to support your cause, you really don't have much ammo in your BB gun. Try again.
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The broadcasting was maybe a fake but the landing did happen, mirrors are still there and you can hit them with a laser from earth and it will reflect back.
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Weird, cause the Sun's rays can too, without mirrors.
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ya think them mirrors would reflect bright spots back to earth when the shine shines on the moon





GLP