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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79844014 United States 03/08/2021 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cause it was blocks away and the crowd was cheering. Also, having fired many rifles including one same caliber as the Carcano, it's not any more loud or less loud than any other rifle. The gunshots were recorded for posterity on multiple Dallas PD motorcycle units radios, it's not up for debate.. Yawwwwnnnzzz |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80122455 United States 03/08/2021 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cause it was blocks away and the crowd was cheering. Also, having fired many rifles including one same caliber as the Carcano, it's not any more loud or less loud than any other rifle. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79844014 The gunshots were recorded for posterity on multiple Dallas PD motorcycle units radios, it's not up for debate.. Yawwwwnnnzzz More gunshots on the DPD recording than there are shots according to the official record. Also, you are wrong about it being "blocks away". Oswald was firing just above their heads according to the official record. If you were standing 6 floors under someone firing a Carcano, I guarantee you that you would display startle reactions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79996063 Canada 03/08/2021 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's been proven that a secret service man in the car behind Kennedy took the clean up kill shot. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78232780 There were mostly fill in secret service men that day, the regular crew was called off. As recently leaked, apparently Bush senior was there helping coordinate. It's very obvious in hindsight that the grassy knoll theory is a distraction. There was a good documentary a few years ago (jfk: smoking gun.) that actually tells the truth of how it really happened. But at the end they chicken out from making the obvious accusations as to who or what was behind it. After noting the truth and just going back to watch all of the films, it's quite revealing how they just edited out or didn't show the clips of the car behind Kennedy during the kill shot. They had primative technology and is a joke that can easily be seen through. Hindsight is 20/20 now on this. The jig is up and the cover up is blatant. Their only defense now is to try to kill us all. Indeed, so in theory there could have been 1+ snipers overseeing, alleged garrote, Jackie or and the driver delivering the headshot, all at once to eliminate failure points. The thing is, the assassins, namely possibly Jackie and the driver. I think Jackie is the one who panicked or saw the garrote in action. may have panicked during the assassination action springing into action the second keenedy started struggling with the garrote to keep him from leaning forward or between car seats. |
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lettruthspeak User ID: 80029308 United States 03/08/2021 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the Zapruder film and then the other video below of the Mannlicher Carcano being fired. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1713043 Notice how loud the Mannlicher Carcano really is. This is the rifle that Lee Harvey Oswald was alleged to have used on JFK from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, firing over the heads of the people lining Elm Street. As you watch the Zapruder film below, pay close attention to the moments when the presidential limo makes the turn from Houston to Elm Streets, passing under the TSBD. It is at this point that the Lone Nut crowd alleges that Oswald fired his first shot, missing the limo when it was at the closest point to Oswald, due to the fact that a traffic light post was in the way which deflected the shot. Then, a few moments later, the Lone Nutters claim that LHO fired the shot that would hit both JFK and Governor Connally, as seen in the picture here: :altgens1: Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll. P.S. If there are any Feds monitoring GLP, please feel free to chime in at this time. Simple, because the Zapruder fim was edited. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80122455 United States 03/08/2021 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if the truth of what happened ever was discovered and published what would be done with it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77685789 At least one of the perps is still alive (and I don't mean Poppy Bush although he was certainly a player). Trump told us so when he resealed the remaining classified JFK assassination records in 2017 citing "names and addressess" of individuals still living needing protected. And the fact that JFK assassination records are still classified after 50 years proves that it was not lone-nut Oswald who kill Kennedy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79996063 Canada 03/08/2021 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jackie's panic may have been seeing the garrote in action this is why she moved her hands there giving it the impression she shot him from under while the bullet came from another point, possibly from a remote or pull string gun concealed in the foot rest area and this is why she tried to exit the car instead of ducking for cover only to be told to stay in by an observer and possible backup assassin, (the motorcycle officer) |
lettruthspeak User ID: 80029308 United States 03/08/2021 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the Zapruder film and then the other video below of the Mannlicher Carcano being fired. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1713043 Notice how loud the Mannlicher Carcano really is. This is the rifle that Lee Harvey Oswald was alleged to have used on JFK from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, firing over the heads of the people lining Elm Street. As you watch the Zapruder film below, pay close attention to the moments when the presidential limo makes the turn from Houston to Elm Streets, passing under the TSBD. It is at this point that the Lone Nut crowd alleges that Oswald fired his first shot, missing the limo when it was at the closest point to Oswald, due to the fact that a traffic light post was in the way which deflected the shot. Then, a few moments later, the Lone Nutters claim that LHO fired the shot that would hit both JFK and Governor Connally, as seen in the picture here: :altgens1: Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll. P.S. If there are any Feds monitoring GLP, please feel free to chime in at this time. Simple, because the Zapruder fim was edited. Because the Zapruder film was edited, and this is all the proof you need that our country is run by psychopaths. Nearly 60 years and they still can't tell the truth about it. |
JB1969
User ID: 80083482 United States 03/08/2021 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the Zapruder film and then the other video below of the Mannlicher Carcano being fired. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1713043 Notice how loud the Mannlicher Carcano really is. This is the rifle that Lee Harvey Oswald was alleged to have used on JFK from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, firing over the heads of the people lining Elm Street. As you watch the Zapruder film below, pay close attention to the moments when the presidential limo makes the turn from Houston to Elm Streets, passing under the TSBD. It is at this point that the Lone Nut crowd alleges that Oswald fired his first shot, missing the limo when it was at the closest point to Oswald, due to the fact that a traffic light post was in the way which deflected the shot. Then, a few moments later, the Lone Nutters claim that LHO fired the shot that would hit both JFK and Governor Connally, as seen in the picture here: :altgens1: Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll. P.S. If there are any Feds monitoring GLP, please feel free to chime in at this time. I met a guy about 20 years ago while visiting the site. He was on the grassy knoll that day and he said without question the shots game from there and maybe other places. He’s written books and was a consultant for the JFK movie. He showed me places on the curb and the entrance to the concrete underpass where stray bullets hit the concrete. I doubted it anyway, but he convinced me that there’s was no way Oswald did it. JB |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78311810 United States 03/08/2021 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Mannlicher-Carcano that Oswald SUPPOSEDLY ordered (researcher and author of “Harvey and Lee” John Armstrong has demonstrated that the money order for it was never cashed) probably wasn’t fired on 11/22/63. The actual rifle used may have been a much higher-quality Mauser. Years after the assassination when roofers were installing a new roof on the Dallas Records Building just east of the Texas School Book Depository they found a used shell that seems to have been fired from a Mauser but was specially altered to accommodate a bullet of the size fired by a Mannlicher-Carcano i.e. a sabot. |
Captain KC Jones
User ID: 76144701 United States 03/08/2021 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agreed. Also, what could be so important to national security that our Government had to reseal the JFK assassination records when they came to Trump's desk for review in October, 2017? I thought it was just a lone nut? I thought it was "case closed?" Obviously, there's more to this story if the Government continues to seal the records over 50 years since "case closed." UFOs, The Alien Problem, Sharing secret info with the USSR in prep for joint space operations as proposed by jfK to Khrushchev. IKE told JFK that MJ12 had become a rogue agency snd had to be brought back under presidential control. Read E. Howard Hunt's deathbed statement. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78708111 United States 03/08/2021 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where did the bullet hole in the windshield come from? The bridge overpass, that is where from. Quoting: Nemesis8 It didn't take LBJ long at all to have that windshield removed. It was never properly examined and in fact the entire limousine was scrubbed down and evidence destroyed before it even left Parkland hospital. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76229835 United States 03/08/2021 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though I agree with you, dissecting minutiae of the JFK assassination in 2013 - with all the important shit that's going down today - is about as relevant as the people still trying to figure out who Jack the Ripper was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35502402 The CIA rubbed Kennedy out. The same CIA that fought against Trump. They and the FBI are INTERNAL ENEMIES of the Republic, and until they are PURGED of TRAITORS, America will ALWAYS be in peril from within. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76229835 United States 03/08/2021 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even though I agree with you, dissecting minutiae of the JFK assassination in 2013 - with all the important shit that's going down today - is about as relevant as the people still trying to figure out who Jack the Ripper was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35502402 The CIA rubbed Kennedy out. The same CIA that fought against Trump. They and the FBI are INTERNAL ENEMIES of the Republic, and until they are PURGED of TRAITORS, America will ALWAYS be in peril from within. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79844014 United States 03/08/2021 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Mannlicher-Carcano that Oswald SUPPOSEDLY ordered (researcher and author of “Harvey and Lee” John Armstrong has demonstrated that the money order for it was never cashed) probably wasn’t fired on 11/22/63. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78311810 The actual rifle used may have been a much higher-quality Mauser. Years after the assassination when roofers were installing a new roof on the Dallas Records Building just east of the Texas School Book Depository they found a used shell that seems to have been fired from a Mauser but was specially altered to accommodate a bullet of the size fired by a Mannlicher-Carcano i.e. a sabot. :rere23: You clearly don't what what a sabot is, you clearly don't understand how rifles work, you clearly don't grasp what a supposedly "used" shell is.... Yawwwwnnnzzz |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33659422 United States 03/08/2021 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1713043 In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll. Did you see that video of those people getting shot shoveling snow? They didn't react until after they had been shot already several times. And yeah I know INB4, that video was fake everything is fake including me and you but just maybe it was a really good fake showing how people react differently than you would expect sometimes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80122455 United States 03/08/2021 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1713043 In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll. Did you see that video of those people getting shot shoveling snow? They didn't react until after they had been shot already several times. And yeah I know INB4, that video was fake everything is fake including me and you but just maybe it was a really good fake showing how people react differently than you would expect sometimes. Their adrenaline had already been elevated for several minutes before shots were fired at the snow shovelers. But the people lining Elm Street were in a relaxed state and should have reacted to a high-powered rifle being fired above their heads. |
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The Rickest Rick Sanchez
User ID: 79987139 United States 03/08/2021 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1713043 In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll. Did you see that video of those people getting shot shoveling snow? They didn't react until after they had been shot already several times. And yeah I know INB4, that video was fake everything is fake including me and you but just maybe it was a really good fake showing how people react differently than you would expect sometimes. I keep seeing people say that, but I don't think that is accurate. The audio and video were way off, not in sync. None of it matched up with what was going on. Been a while since I first watched it, but it was super obvious that there was huge lag. The universe is basically an animal. It grazes on the ordinary. It creates infinite idiots just to eat them. The Rickest Rick Sanchez comments are meant for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed to reflect the feelings and opinions, implied or expressed, of the author. |
The Old Timer
User ID: 44147937 United States 03/08/2021 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the Zapruder film and then the other video below of the Mannlicher Carcano being fired. Quoting: FreakObserver Notice how loud the Mannlicher Carcano really is. This is the rifle that Lee Harvey Oswald was alleged to have used on JFK from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, firing over the heads of the people lining Elm Street. As you watch the Zapruder film below, pay close attention to the moments when the presidential limo makes the turn from Houston to Elm Streets, passing under the TSBD. It is at this point that the Lone Nut crowd alleges that Oswald fired his first shot, missing the limo when it was at the closest point to Oswald, due to the fact that a traffic light post was in the way which deflected the shot. Then, a few moments later, the Lone Nutters claim that LHO fired the shot that would hit both JFK and Governor Connally, as seen in the picture here: :altgens: Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll. P.S. If there are any Feds monitoring GLP, please feel free to chime in at this time. Even though I agree with you, dissecting minutiae of the JFK assassination in 2013 - with all the important shit that's going down today - is about as relevant as the people still trying to figure out who Jack the Ripper was. NO time limit for a murder!! Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80122455 United States 03/08/2021 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the Zapruder film and then the other video below of the Mannlicher Carcano being fired. Quoting: FreakObserver Notice how loud the Mannlicher Carcano really is. This is the rifle that Lee Harvey Oswald was alleged to have used on JFK from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, firing over the heads of the people lining Elm Street. As you watch the Zapruder film below, pay close attention to the moments when the presidential limo makes the turn from Houston to Elm Streets, passing under the TSBD. It is at this point that the Lone Nut crowd alleges that Oswald fired his first shot, missing the limo when it was at the closest point to Oswald, due to the fact that a traffic light post was in the way which deflected the shot. Then, a few moments later, the Lone Nutters claim that LHO fired the shot that would hit both JFK and Governor Connally, as seen in the picture here: :altgens: Now, here is my dilemma: why don’t we see any startle reactions by the people standing in the line along Elm Street to the high powered rifle that is allegedly being fired right above them? In fact, the only real startle reactions that we ever see in the Zapruder Film come from the people closest to the Grassy Knoll. P.S. If there are any Feds monitoring GLP, please feel free to chime in at this time. Even though I agree with you, dissecting minutiae of the JFK assassination in 2013 - with all the important shit that's going down today - is about as relevant as the people still trying to figure out who Jack the Ripper was. NO time limit for a murder!! Especially when it involves a genuine American war hero and genuine American statesman. I don't think it is a coincidence that America's "golden age" rapidly started coming to an end shortly after JFK was assassinated. It's like America has been under a curse ever since. A good way to begin reversing that curse would be to do justice for JFK, even at this late stage, given that at least one of the perps must still be alive as Trump alluded when he reclassified the records in October, 2017 citing "names and addresses." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80039448 Chile 03/08/2021 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hi Op, Don't forget the Zapruder film has been altered from the original. Frames missing (therefore audio timing messed up) and image alterations: The Zapruder Film Mystery So, even if you think you have something based on the Zapruder film, it is likely not a true description of what transpired. :( |
RYFYRMAN91
User ID: 79462467 United States 03/08/2021 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you really think Jackie killed JFK, you literally are a retarded fucking moron. There's NO POSSIBLE WAY any NORMAL human can look at the Z film and conclude that. When the "shot is fired" that explodes his head, there is ZERO reaction from her. She doesn't behave like a person that just pulled the fucking trigger on a gun. There's NO kickback. There's NO physical or behavioral "reaction" from her. Fucking morons... |
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