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How Do Federal Reserve Notes Go from Printing Press into Circulation?

 
SteamrolledGobias  (OP)

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ANd the 'money' that is created by the Fed is an asset of the Fed. So the corporation bonds they buy are assets (owned) by the Fed and the Fed receives the payoff when the bond is due. We, the AMerican people don't get it, but corporations that employ us get the use of the money while they have it. So we benefit from it.
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I think, but am not sure, that the Fed can release money by buying stock too. If they get enough stock in a company they can control it.
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wow that I have not heard of.

the bonds, I am surprised because I was not aware that private commercial entities could release "bonds". I thought it was a federal gov't thing because they are public sector

but purchasing stocks? all bets are off. the fed just makes up credit - when they buy something it doesn't come from a bank account, it is made up on the spot. so they could theoretically purchase the entire stock market and own every major conglomerate, if enough stockholders were willing to sell.

thanks for continuing with all this detailed info because it is tough to keep up. but I like checking this thread time to time and seeing new stuff it's great!
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At the risk of being attacked as a religitard, the following interviews, regarding the presence of an altar where babies were sacrificed under the spot where the Federal Reserve was conceived (on Jekyll Island) is quite interesting. You may skip over the first part of part one and begin where he starts to talk about Jekyll Island, particularly if you are the type to call me a religitard, but the beginning does add depth to the conversation. Part 2 is a discussion of debt as slavery.

Canaanite Altars and the Federal Reserve Part 1
[link to www.blogtalkradio.com]

Canaanite Altars and the Federal Reserve Part 2
[link to www.blogtalkradio.com]
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Sorry, can't edit the post, but he starts Jekyll Island at the 68 minute mark, and gets to the meat of the interview at 81 minutes.
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fascinating. Thanks so much for posting. I do not know a lot of the history surrounding the Fed's execution and conception.
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Are you an asset, or are you a liability?

Thread: "Strawman Identities Wall Street buying of our Birth Certificates UCC Form

We the people have been enslaved into a system of bondage that dates back to ancient Babylon. A group of men and a few women scattered all over the US, Canada, England, and Australia have been figuring out how this has been done, and how to escape the bondage.


Bondage is Good

"Look, you bond them at birth,
then teach them how to think of the bond as a good thing...
and then when they turn 18,
the bond also matures and the new security is calculated in the GNP...
that's what we call prime stock
in the suppositional wagering scheme
and fractional reserve banking game.
You should get on it, its a good train."

all wrapped up with a pretty little ribbon i would say.
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It's exactly like printing money, but for them they don't get in trouble
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You do realize the money is created out of thin air - don't you?

Thread: Money is made out of thin air

(goes to 16 pages)
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The question in my view is irrelevant. Maybe it mattered 30-40 years ago, but today everything is digital. You could now live your whole life not ever possessing a single coin or piece of paper.
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At the risk of being attacked as a religitard, the following interviews, regarding the presence of an altar where babies were sacrificed under the spot where the Federal Reserve was conceived (on Jekyll Island) is quite interesting. You may skip over the first part of part one and begin where he starts to talk about Jekyll Island, particularly if you are the type to call me a religitard, but the beginning does add depth to the conversation. Part 2 is a discussion of debt as slavery.

Canaanite Altars and the Federal Reserve Part 1
[link to www.blogtalkradio.com]

Canaanite Altars and the Federal Reserve Part 2
[link to www.blogtalkradio.com]
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Sorry, can't edit the post, but he starts Jekyll Island at the 68 minute mark, and gets to the meat of the interview at 81 minutes.
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fascinating. Thanks so much for posting. I do not know a lot of the history surrounding the Fed's execution and conception.
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Also, keep in mind something else. The actual cash in the economy, called the money supply, and it used to be reported as the M2 money supply report, is only a fraction of the size the economy.

The rest of it is largely electronic ledgers, where in most cases you will never see one dollar of cash in a loan transaction.
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Are you an asset, or are you a liability?

Thread: "Strawman Identities Wall Street buying of our Birth Certificates UCC Form

We the people have been enslaved into a system of bondage that dates back to ancient Babylon. A group of men and a few women scattered all over the US, Canada, England, and Australia have been figuring out how this has been done, and how to escape the bondage.


Bondage is Good

"Look, you bond them at birth,
then teach them how to think of the bond as a good thing...
and then when they turn 18,
the bond also matures and the new security is calculated in the GNP...
that's what we call prime stock
in the suppositional wagering scheme
and fractional reserve banking game.
You should get on it, its a good train."

all wrapped up with a pretty little ribbon i would say.
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Here is a 36 page PDF document on the topic of redemption via the UCC process. You are advised to download this document and study it carefully:

[link to sedm.org]

A lot of people have spent time in prison over these tactics.

And bottom line; it is all about a malfunctioning and poorly designed monetary system.
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The question in my view is irrelevant. Maybe it mattered 30-40 years ago, but today everything is digital. You could now live your whole life not ever possessing a single coin or piece of paper.
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Your viewpoint is correct, and here is why;

Money is at it's core a communication by means of symbols and contracts that allow humans to rationalize the distribution and ownership of real things by means of proxy instruments. Those proxy instruments are the "money."

Proper assignment of the seigniorage is the critical issue to take under consideration; once this error is corrected the books will balance.

I am in possession of a report to the European branch of the Club of Rome - Brussels office that mentions another method of providing for professional administration of a redesigned monetary system.

Look for my review... within the next week.
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From page 16: Thread: Money is made out of thin air (Page 16)

The Tom Schauf writings are well worth adding to your personal collection. Schauf is (was?) a CPA who figured out the entire scheme and went on to testify in money and banking court cases. Get them here:

[link to www.4shared.com]

Money is an abstraction.

IN ANALOGY LIKE A ROAD MAP IS TO THE PHYSICAL ROAD

Men create abstract institutions to serve specific needs but then forget that these institutions are indeed abstract imaginative constructs, and spend much energy defending the construct even in the face of evidence that suggests a faulty underpinning.

And by "defending the construct" I don't mean simply intellectual discussion like rational people might engage themselves in, but actual physical attacks, imprisonment, and even murder... for ideas. How stupid is that?

But the money system shows signs of collapse, and everyone presumes that life as we know it will suddenly cease and all of the physical economy fail.

Wrong conclusion.

Call in a different engineering team and tell them to build new and check the old blueprint so as to make certain that mistakes are not repeated.
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another question I have is about how the Fed retains all their money - which it seems like they dont.

Fractional Reserve Banking means the Fed should always have some dollars in the vault, correct? But it seems like the Fed would just write new checks and print money whenever they need it.

So do they have some FRNs stashed away just in case somebody needs a loan?

Also sort-of related, but where do they go to purchase all these toxic assets and mortgages? because that whole operation seems very shady. it's a private banking institution purchasing land within the US.

The whole Federal Reserve Bank doesn't even seem to have a business plan other than rape and pillage. The company is just trying to own as much shit as possible while passing the debt+interest onto the federal national debt.

it seems like these guys are doing a lot of illegal things.. am I wrong? There is plenty of justification for the people who run the Fed to be arrested & indicted with felony charges. conspiracy to defraud investors, oh and we've never seen a full audit have we? no audits of any bookkeeping from outside sources.
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The FED is the ultimate clearinghouse of check and transfers outside local banking between bank transactions.
For instance Local Bank A received deposits drawn on Banks B and C. B and C received deposits drawn on Bank A. And so on. The FED comes along with tally totals and determines at the end of the day who owes who what and each bank writes a check to each to settle. At the same time the FED man will pick up checks out of area to sort at a major clearinghouse and repeats the cyle. The FED charges money for this service. Banks don't like it and prefer customers use debit transactions.

Now another function goes on from this. The FED determines what the limit amount is for any bank to hold in it's vault on a daily basis based on transaction data. They get to keep that and not a penny more. If in excess the Fed bundles it up and takes it away. If the bank has too little, they are loaned an amount to keep the vault in balance. At the same time, the banks are required to send money deemed damaged to the FED for proper shredding to keep newer bills in circulation.

A trick to hide the monetization of debts and the inflation the banks come up with a variety of currencies.
The introduction of the State Quarters.
The Sacajawea Dollars
Susan B. Anthony.
5 Different versions of the $20, $10 and three versions of $50, and $5 denominations.
Now you are told these were improvements to counter counterfeits. However, the old versions are not removed.
They are kept in circulation also until worn out.
Sometimes even past their durability.
This also is to hide from the public how much money goes offshore for drug trades and other dealings.
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I probably should have added that the amount of money transacted inhouse and outside is determined when the
electronic encoded is done all throughout the day by
keying in the clearinghouse number, the account number and
then the amount of the transaction to each piece of paper
The first two are already encoded onto deposits and checks.
This is how it is drafted to and from accounts all over the country. And then settlement checks are done at the end of the day between banks, because they already took care of the "float" during the daily transactions.
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From 2008 when someone asked a similar question:

Thread: I have a question about the fiat money system to see if I understand this correctly.
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When you go down to the local bank to take out a loan, they do not have that money lying around in the vault either.
It is another layer of fractional reserves wherein it is determined how much actual deposits there are and the multiple that can be applied to it to "loan".
The money is then created by writing a check and depositing it into an account for a home, a car, or whatever.
Now an account is created for the repayment of the loan with an arbitrary amount of interest attached based on another arbitrary number called a FICO score.

The higher the FICO score, the more the bank sees you as a
sucker.

The problem for small banks is that they do not offer an incentive to keep money deposited with them for a long enough period of time to raise their reserve capacity to fractionalize. This was formerly done with CDs.
Demand Deposit accounts flucuate to be reliable.
Because people take their money for larger returns elsewhere is the reason why your local bank is probably part of a larger bank now or has changed names numerous times.
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Poster 1482838 obviously has technical knowledge of day to day operations.

Checking accounts have very small to zero reserves. So, if you write an overdraft for a few bux and the bank honors it, they will likely charge a relatively hefty fee.

Beyond the time involved of having an employee consult with you for up to 30 minutes, this overdraft is quite profitable to the bank. Lets say you have an overdraft fee of $35 - after employee salary - this becomes a near infinite return on the banks investment which is close to zero. Some banks pay nearly all of their immediate operational costs and overhead with overdraft fees. They are secretly hoping you will continue your bad acts.

Anyway, from two years ago: Thread: IF EVERY NATION IS SO INDEBTED WHO THE F*** ARE THEIR CREDITORS?
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From a Canadian poster in 2008; the first post is quite good but could used better formatting with paragraph breaks. The last post talks about red seal notes and green seal notes and has the formatting problem corrected:

Thread: The Great Banking Deception
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Thread: Pay No Taxes legally -End the FED -synopsis page 8-Why are waiting for someone to do it for us like Ron paul (Page 87)
federal reserve notes are a private currency you pay tribute/user fee to use them. web search: irrecusable obligation Get mad, and demand the Peoples interest free money United States Notes at your bank.
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You better pay your taxes or you'll go to jail. Don't believe that nonsense.
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Poster 1482838 obviously has technical knowledge of day to day operations.

Checking accounts have very small to zero reserves. So, if you write an overdraft for a few bux and the bank honors it, they will likely charge a relatively hefty fee.

Beyond the time involved of having an employee consult with you for up to 30 minutes, this overdraft is quite profitable to the bank. Lets say you have an overdraft fee of $35 - after employee salary - this becomes a near infinite return on the banks investment which is close to zero. Some banks pay nearly all of their immediate operational costs and overhead with overdraft fees. They are secretly hoping you will continue your bad acts.

Anyway, from two years ago: Thread: IF EVERY NATION IS SO INDEBTED WHO THE F*** ARE THEIR CREDITORS?
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The angle is for the largest item presented for payment to be deducted first.
Say you have a checking account with a $100 balance.
You have a deposit for $100 to add but alas you arrive after 2pm, it will go on Next Day business.
However someone else has presented for payment today,
a check or debit for $125, one for $30, one for $10,
and another one for $10. You think that they will at least
pay the $30, and the two $10s. But, they won't.
They will bounce you at the $125 and then the others also at a deficit, causing you to pay, 4 separate overdraft fees rather than 1.
Or they might return all four. Or they might pay all four and charge you no fees based upon the knowledge that you have a deposit which hadn't cleared yet. All of this is arbitrary too and depends on your "standing" with the branch manager. But, mostly they are in the business of collecting 'fees'.
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when money of credit is paid back.

it returns back into thin air where it came from.

when you request a commercial bank to inflate it's balance sheet and create money out of thin air.

when the money comes back as a payment...the money supply along with the debt vanishes.

So then you have to sustain inflation forever...or collapse is the result.

Like what happened before 2008...The collapse of the 1991 to 2005 real estate boom.
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Does the Vatican hold your mortgage?

[link to willthomasonline.net]

29 pages with pictures - 18+ megabytes
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damn you guys have posted a lot of older threads which bring up excellent insight. kudos for the in-depth knowledge.

I particularly enjoy this quote:

When a bank loans somebody a 100Gs, 100Gs magically appears out of thin air. That money goes into wide circulation. And everybody is happy.

Then comes a day when that person decides to pay back the 100Gs. He then takes 110Gs out of general circulation (100 + 10Gs more for intrest) and gives it back to the bank...where and when it promptly disappears *back* into the thin air it came from. Now nobody is happy because there is $110,000 *missing* from circulation.

So you see if people pay off old money at faster rate than they borrow new money the general supply of it in circulation drops.

This mysterious process is called "a recession".
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I think above all else, I am looking for "legalese" to explain how this is illegal.

I mean, honestly this seems very illegal. right?

I know usury is a felony and the Federal Reserve is definitely guilty of Usury. They don't pay any interest on the money but get to decide what they charge. Plus, regular people can't borrow from the fed, only member banks.

Hey also, the name "FEDERAL RESERVE" seems illegal too.

I can't just start a new grocery store "Federal Municipal Groceries" because that's attempting to deceive customers into thinking my business is federal. I don't know the legal jargon, but I know it's illegal.
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"Federal Reserve" might seem illegal, but it isn't.

You know that other federal outfit; "Fed Ex" - not illegal. (full name federal express)

Likewise, the word "dollar" is not owned by anyone. One good reason the jury should have turned ALD founder Bernard von NotHaus loose. His silver dollars were closer to the original design than federal reserve notes are.

Incidentally, this: "Then comes a day when that person decides to pay back the 100Gs. He then takes 110Gs out of general circulation (100 + 10Gs more for intrest) and gives it back to the bank...where and when it promptly disappears *back* into the thin air it came from. Now nobody is happy because there is $110,000 *missing* from circulation." is incorrect. 100K is borrowed, 100K is paid back and that portion disappears. However, the 10K interest remains to the banks account. That is how central banking becomes super rich and manages to purchase everything.

They have a license granted by government to loan the people's credit to the people and to profit from the exercise of that license. Search and find "The parable of the cards" written by Franklin Sanders.

The Eleventh Marble by Michael Rivero also explains the problem, but the Franklin Sanders version is more accurate.
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"Federal Reserve" might seem illegal, but it isn't.

You know that other federal outfit; "Fed Ex" - not illegal. (full name federal express)

Likewise, the word "dollar" is not owned by anyone. One good reason the jury should have turned ALD founder Bernard von NotHaus loose. His silver dollars were closer to the original design than federal reserve notes are.

Incidentally, this: "Then comes a day when that person decides to pay back the 100Gs. He then takes 110Gs out of general circulation (100 + 10Gs more for intrest) and gives it back to the bank...where and when it promptly disappears *back* into the thin air it came from. Now nobody is happy because there is $110,000 *missing* from circulation." is incorrect. 100K is borrowed, 100K is paid back and that portion disappears. However, the 10K interest remains to the banks account. That is how central banking becomes super rich and manages to purchase everything.

They have a license granted by government to loan the people's credit to the people and to profit from the exercise of that license. Search and find "The parable of the cards" written by Franklin Sanders.

The Eleventh Marble by Michael Rivero also explains the problem, but the Franklin Sanders version is more accurate.
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I've read the Eleventh Marble so I will check out the other reading. thanks for the feedback it puts that whole idea into a better perspective.

crazy but it's all true. and it is even harder to believe there are people out there who have no idea how this shit works.. they'd even go so far as to deny this is true. without doing any research on their own.

sad world we live in. thanks for sharing all your knowledge because I haven't met a single person IRL who understand the full banking ponzi scheme
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do any other countries use such a wacky system for printing and distributing money?
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The Franklin Sanders "parable of the cards" is mentioned here:

Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 41)

and is pasted into a post here:

Thread: Nesara - The National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act as proposed by Dr. Harvey Barnard, PhD (Page 2)

Look for the word "mnemonic" at the top of that page followed by some explanation of the importance of a concept together with a reference to some writing by head of Minnesota fed Narayana Kocherlakota.

That poster #60210 really has a good grasp on this stuff.
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do any other countries use such a wacky system for printing and distributing money?
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yes every single country aside from 3 have some type of central bank.

Thread: Only 3 countries left that don't have a ROTHSCHILD Central Bank!
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do any other countries use such a wacky system for printing and distributing money?
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Australia and New Zealand use the same system with minor modifications.

See the top of page 51: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 51)


Dr Finlay Thompson, Department of Mathematics, Victoria University figured out the scheme in the period from 1998 to 2000. That was why he and a small group of reformers created the New Zealand bank reform group.
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The Franklin Sanders "parable of the cards" is mentioned here:

Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 41)

and is pasted into a post here:

Thread: Nesara - The National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act as proposed by Dr. Harvey Barnard, PhD (Page 2)

Look for the word "mnemonic" at the top of that page followed by some explanation of the importance of a concept together with a reference to some writing by head of Minnesota fed Narayana Kocherlakota.

That poster #60210 really has a good grasp on this stuff.
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I think I have the article in full here:

[link to www.24hgold.com]

It's very good and explains much of the same ideas I was looking for.

I think what bugs me is that what is happening isn't "illegal", but it sure isnt fair or moral. just because there aren't laws on the books doesnt mean there shouldn't be.

I mean... how I understand it, literally the ONLY method new money comes into existence is thru the Federal Reserve. Either via loans to banks, or purchasing tbills. that's it. everything comes through a member bank or goes right to the feds.

brand new money is NEVER given directly to small businesses or to individuals for car loans/mortgages.
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I am not getting why people think the money disappears once it is repaid to the FED.

Or to the local bank, for that matter.
Yes, the account itself is closed.
Now, the loan was probably sold off a long time ago to
a broker or bond dealer who trades MBS.
So the bank got paid a (small) portion of the loan value when it sold. The interest is going to the whatever financial institution is handling that. The bank gets a loan servicing fee for the transfer, unless they use a separate loan servicing company and are just the loan origintors.

But, the FED, as a private financial institution gets to keep the money in it's books when banks pay off loans to the them. But, it's such a revolving door, most of the money is recirculated and loaned back out again.
Over and over. I would say the FEDs books are in the many Hundreds of Trillions if not Quadrillions in Assets and Liabilities, at this point.





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