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Discussions and views on Existentialism

 
Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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I was not refering to specifically Patrick, but in general.
See the works of this man who introduced me to the topic.

[link to www2.binghamton.edu]
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Oh nice, you went to school a couple hours away from where I am currently.

Thanks for the link.
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How is life in Gods country, lol. So awesome out there.

Phenomenology World Wide: Foundations

This should answer all your questions if you can get through it. It is not light reading.

A book which examines phenomenology and its greatest thinker, Edmund Husserl.

[link to books.google.com]

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Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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How is life in Gods country, lol. So awesome out there.

Phenomenology World Wide: Foundations

This should answer all your questions if you can get through it. It is not light reading.

A book which examines phenomenology and its greatest thinker, Edmund Husserl.

[link to books.google.com]
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Thanks man, I'll look into it.
Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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I don't know much about it formally (and really, who does?) but I do find myself leaning towards the Absurd, I don't see any higher objective meaning to existence other than that which we, with our gloriously limited minds, choose to assign to it and when we do, the Absurd will make sure that meaning gets steamrolled at the earliest opportunity.

When we do it in groups, we call it "society" or "religion" or "culture" and when we do it as individuals we are called "insane" lol.

The Absurd is the one constant truth in the world imo and will always assert itself whenever we try to suppress it.

I haven't done much reading beyond the big names but I do know a good joke about Sartre...

Sartre was sitting in a cafe when a waitress approached him: "Can I get you something to drink?"

Sartre says, "I'd like a cup of coffee with sugar, but no cream".

The waitress goes to get the order and comes back and says "I'm sorry sir, we are all out of cream -- how about with no milk?"

Eh? I like that one.

If I'm honest my favorite existential philosopher is the Joker, he gets it.

whoopdedo
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Lol, I get this now, I just read Nausea.
Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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Also just curious, has anyone here read "The Myth of Sisyphus", by Camus? It is an essay, maybe 90 pages. I'm not going to lie, it can be some hard reading, but it is the most thought provoking thing I think I have ever read.

I just want to hear some other peoples thoughts on it, if you have read or are familiar with it.
Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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Also just curious, has anyone here read "The Myth of Sisyphus", by Camus? It is an essay, maybe 90 pages. I'm not going to lie, it can be some hard reading, but it is the most thought provoking thing I think I have ever read.

I just want to hear some other peoples thoughts on it, if you have read or are familiar with it.
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A quick summary...

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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Has anyone ever read any Kierkegaard? Like "Either/Or"?

Very interesting, but kind of difficult to read, just because of his style of writing.
Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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Has anyone ever read any Kierkegaard? Like "Either/Or"?

Very interesting, but kind of difficult to read, just because of his style of writing.
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Bump for Kierkegaard!
Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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BUMP!!!! For some reading suggestions. My favorite so far are definitely Camus, Dostoyosky, Kierkegaard, and Sartre.

I would love some suggestions!
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Those are must reads, great suggestions!!!!

I read Dostoevsky as a kid.

The rest I did when older. The one I know the least about is Camus.

However, I found Sartre's novels quite boring, I read up the third or fourth of the series.

People here on Glp may find Nietzsche's Genealogy of morals very interestig.

If I had to add one author/philosopher people should read it would be Michel Foucault.

I'll be very happy and grateful if someone recomends to me some economy books for non economists, I really feel like trying t understad what's going on in the world a little better. I took a look at some cheap second hand economy books, but I didn't know which ones are good. I'm also taking a short tip soon to a place where books are much cheaper than where I live, so any recommendations would be very welcome.
Patrick Bateman  (OP)

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Those are must reads, great suggestions!!!!

I read Dostoevsky as a kid.

The rest I did when older. The one I know the least about is Camus.

However, I found Sartre's novels quite boring, I read up the third or fourth of the series.

People here on Glp may find Nietzsche's Genealogy of morals very interestig.

If I had to add one author/philosopher people should read it would be Michel Foucault.

I'll be very happy and grateful if someone recomends to me some economy books for non economists, I really feel like trying t understad what's going on in the world a little better. I took a look at some cheap second hand economy books, but I didn't know which ones are good. I'm also taking a short tip soon to a place where books are much cheaper than where I live, so any recommendations would be very welcome.
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The only Sartre novel I have read that I truly liked so far was Nausea, which imo was great.

My favorite of them all though, the great Existentialist authors, is beyond a doubt, Camus.

The Myth of Sisyphus is one of the most intellectually stimulating pieces of writing I have ever read. It is an essay, not a novel, but a great one.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

But, The Fall, and The Stranger, are two great novels also by Camus. I would recommend all three!

I have read a few Dostoyevsky, Crime and Punishment, of course the most famous, The Gambler, but my favorite of his, Notes From Underground. Thanks for the reply!

Here is a wiki link to Notes From Underground.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Edit, Also, Nietzsche imo, is the most over-rated of the Existential authors.

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Just wanted to bump for new readers and try to gather more views as well as reading material. Any read any great books that are Existential in nature? New or classic, I am always looking for great reads :)
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Read ecclesiastes.

Probably one of my favorite literary works of all time.

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I have read it again since I last saw this post and I love how Solomon rights and the wisdom and intelligence he shares.
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Read ecclesiastes.

Probably one of my favorite literary works of all time.

[link to www.biblegateway.com]
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I have read it again since I last saw this post and I love how Solomon rights and the wisdom and intelligence he shares.
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Also it may the least contradictory book in the Bible which makes me love it that much more.
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I would approach it from the side of linguistics just to
understand what existentialism is in general about.

People think that words are basically clear and well-defined,
when actually they are not. Many nouns are just generic words with no clear definition, yet people pretend that they
are being specific; for example 'liberal', 'conservative',
'religion', 'atheism', 'art', 'science', humanism' etc...
especially the most inclusive noun 'God'.

So, existentialism starts with the knowledge of a vagueness
in semantic meanings and requires that we supply the meaning
ourselves. Naturally, psychology and word associations play
a main role in the matter.

Take as simple of a word as 'health'.
You may have one interpretation of health, while Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci have other interpretations.
Obviously not everyone will have a coherent or constructive
knowledge of 'health' or 'healing'! Which is why the existentialist must make a coherent or appealing case for
their definitions.

Capice?
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You change your first name from Patrick to Master.





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