What will you do?

JUMP Froggy BOY!!....Don't see your ass doing a DAMN THINK....Yada, Yada, Yada you are just another "Hot air Bafoon"

Who are you talking too?

not you smoke

I don't have to do anything because I'm not registered as a slave like you are. I've already done what I've suggested to the OP.

Anyway thanks for your time. Hopefully your ass is doing a damn THINK.

After they kill the dollar and hyperinflation sets in, the choices will get tough, the weak will not make it. The experts predict half the population will be dead in a year without electricity. Maybe after the herd is thinned we will have a better chance.

At first glance yes, but believe me, if you just do what you want to do, they can't do anything. That's there are so much permits and illusions, in order to create fear. Once you've overcome that, you are invincible.

Yep, Autocorrect at it's best!

Ah, you must be living under a bridge or "in a van, down by the River"....

You would have to be homeless to not play the game these days. That is true

It's not true.

Either you can live with a willing slave or you can just build your own home. Simple as that.

I have my wooden house and built it with my friends. It may be considered illegal, but I don't give a flying fuck, because the police doesn't go into the forest, unless they have the order to do so.

Honestly what is wrong with you people ? You make it way harder than it is - why ? Because you became addicted to the comfort this system brings. You may call people who deny work in general, roaches, scum and lazy, but fact is, those complying with the system are lazy as fuck and the actual scum, that upholds the system.

Come on over here to good ole america and build your ass a house in the woods... Haha

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It is not possible in this country... How do you eat?

this came right to mind:

"No phone, no lights no motor cars,
Not a single luxury,
Like Robinson Crusoe,
As primitive as can be."

I'm half american and been in the US plenty of times. Of course it is possible. Are you fucking kidding me ?

That's what I'm talking about. People have so much fear of the idea being self-reliant that they neglect it right away believing it is impossible.

I would put my life on the line in order to bet, that if someone in the US would build their own home somewhere in the woods (of course not right in front of a hunting territory) no one would notice unless you tell it around.

How to eat ? Hunt your own shit just like a lot of americans love to do it. Fuck a permission, because you know more than anyone else, how much you need.

It's so fucking easy, that it might seem unbelievable, but once you get used to it, you find a life in the system waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder, than a self-reliant lifestyle. Believe me.

Do you have children? Do they go to school? Do you hunt for your food?

Exactly that was my point. People got addicted to useless technology and became to comfortable.

A phone ? For what ? If you don't work anymore and live by yourself (with your family or whatever) you don't need one. Guess what, a couple of hundred years ago (I know it's not even that long ago) it worked too.

Light ? If you have the knowledge of how it works, you can easily produce it yourself or you simply use fire.

Motor cars ? Fuck that shit. Cars are completely useless. You may think: "Hey, but I can move faster from A to B" - But if you honestly think about it, the only time you move from A to B with your motor car, is when you are ordered to. Which means, when you have to work, get food, go to the doctor etc. But if you are self-reliant, you don't anyone else anymore, so you don't have to visit anyone real fast with your motor car. But let's say you need one, so what ? If you would'nt be so lazy, working for somebody else, in order to have all luxury presented to you, you could've gained the knowledge of how to build such a motor car, or even better, how to build a motor car, with a motor that doesn't run on oil.

Anyway, my point is, what you call luxury, is actually the whip and the chains the keep you enslaved to this system. Once you notice, that the so called luxury is nothing that you need in order to survive or become happy, you will find out how beautiful life and freedom can be.

I don't eat meat, but I grow everything I need myself. I'm only 22 so I don't have children, nor would I send them to school.

The only reason why I can use a computer like this, is because most of my family is stuck in the system and doesn't mind what the fuck I'm doing. Still I love them and visit them as often as I can. While I'm at that I do use the internet in order to gain knowledge and to swap ideas like this on forums.

Sounds a bit idealistic, and improbable. I agree we are all shacked slaves to debt and luxury. Unfortunately here in the U.S. children are required by law to attend school, if you run around hunting out of season or fishing without a license you will get 3 hot and a cot in jail, if you were to acquire the parts to build a car that ran on water it would be unwise to drive it around as you risk being followed to your hideout in the forest which is most likely owned either privately or by state of federal gov. Add then trespassing. It is illegal to collect rainwater or grow a garden here anymore and suicide seeds are the norm now. If I were to go as deep as possible into the Ozarks I would still be found.

See if I were still 22 and unattatched I would be living the dream too brother. Had to grow up and do it for real though. I was unaware in those days, joined the Navy when I turned 18... Crazy but Ignorance was bliss.

Really ? Is that the truth or just what they want you to believe ?

(Btw don't act like the USA is any different than other countries. Kids in Germany are also required by law to go to school, but if I would become a child, I would'nt let my wife give birth to the kid in a hospital, so it can't be registered. But that's a different topic.)

So you truly believe whoever does that, WILL BE CAUGHT and sentenced ?

Anyway like I said at the beginning of this discussion, you don't get it at all. Everything you just mentioned are laws from the system you despise. If you truly want to be free, you have to ignore them and do your thing.

How is that any different from putting up a fight ? It's funny, once everybody is willing to something (lika a revolution) people like you are one of the first to jump on the bandwagon, but when somebody like me tells you how it is, you are to scared to accept it and try to find any kind of excuse you can come up with.

Let's say you've done all that and got caught ? So what ? I thought you bear arms in order to protect yourself ? Why not use them when they want to send you to jail ? Oh, my bad, you have fear that they will come back with even more.

But I have to thank you. You made my point clear. Humanity isn't ready for freedom, so a fucking revolution won't change a thing - well it won't change for the better, but will make the system more vicious and evil than it was before. Thanks for showing, how so called truthers and freedom fighters actually are and when it boils down to the real truth, they get scared and shit their pants.

That's a lot to look forward to.

Bring on the FEMA trains, choo choo!!!

Off to the furnace for a little tan? Oh how luck me!

I 'woke' up with 18. I may not have the same experience, but I do understand where you are coming from.

Trust me though, this dream as you named it, is never to late to achieve and the only way to become free. It's your choice. Either you value your life as a slave living caged and void, or you live your life to the fullest as a free and fullfilled being, that wouldn't have any regrets dying.

No need to be rude man, just trying to have a conversation. It is a clear sign of your age though, and your generation. I am happy to help you make your point, I wish it were feesable in this age. As you grow up and mature you will realize things are not so black and white. I admire your spirit and dedication to freedom. Wish you the best, but you will not see my point until you are a little wiser.

...Maybe take some advice from Iron Maiden. I am not a strong man.

Sorry for being rude, but I can't hide my emotions.

While you sound wise and age has a lot to do with experience, I doubt that I will come to understand you, because your logic is twisted.

You claim you are willing to give your life (put up a fight) for your rights, once a revoltion goes down, but you are not able, nor willing to give your life for freedom that can be achieved as long as you are not literally sitting in a cell, which is observed by others to make sure you can't escape.

The prison humans are living in is not phsyical, but mental. One day you'll figure that out and will notice that a life like this isn't worthy and that people that don't fight (not literally punching and shooting) for freedom don't deserve freedom in the first place.

I have been a young idiot who was willing to die for freedom, I have seen the world via the U.S. Navy and served proudly for four years. I have lived all over this country and have a trade not a job, I actually have a skill, i am a journeyman painter. I am 38 and have seen alot, though at the end of the day the only thing I am sure of is what I do NOT know. I know the idea of freedom that is fed to the public is that of consumption and obediance. The illusion of choice, and the complete brainwashing of generation after generation. Everything begins as an Idea in one persons head. Freedom is no different. Everything is relative my boy, Everything is perspective. Make allowances for other peoples shortcomings as quickly as you do your own, and judge them from where they stand not where you stand. Then you will be a wise man.

Also, do not hide your emotions, just express them more eloquently.

I think that after the economy collapses and the population is smaller we will come together, return to the local mentality of the 1800's. I for one welcome it.

To be honest, I don't even find my post to be that rude. It's not like I insulted you heavily. I merely added so more compassion against the oppostion.

Besides that let's agree to not agree. I don't think I will ever take your standpoint, nor do I think you will take mine (supposedly) again, so continuing is rather pointless, since we I've finished up my poit anyway.

I hope one day you and our other brothers and sisters can truly become free, but as long as it stays as it is nothing will change. I guess we'll see, once the ELite lays out their revolution scenario, in order to provoke those wanting freedom to finally stand up and fight, but by then it will be too late. Or maybe a miracle will happen.

Have a nice day and take care.

I do not hope to derail the elites plan, I hope that when it is all said and done we figure out what is really important. I Wish you the best! We need more young ones like you!