assuming the shroud of turin is real, wouldnt that mean that they exhumed christs body and have it somewhere?

assuming the shroud of turin is real, then because of the blood evidence it shows a man who survived a crucifixion. dead people don't bleed.

jesus was only on the cross for a few hours, and most scholars feel that this was too short a time for someone to die.
it was nearing sundown so joseph of arimethia ask for the "body" of jesus so he could bury it before sundown. instead, they doctored and cared for jesus' wounds until he was able to travel. then josephof arimethia, mary magdalene, and jesus(holy grail) fled and went to france or england.

jesus survived his crucifixion.

Dead people don't bleed, but their wounds DO continue to ooze blood, and hence a cloth such as that at Turin could possibly be stained accordingly.

I personally have never believed the Shroud of Turin to be genuine, but rather a forgery sanctioned and created by the Roman Catholic Church as a means of reinforcing the faith of their masses.

The inventive scenario presented in the post directly above is creative, to say the least! But, if people can also believe that Jesus' body was transported to heaven by aliens... well, whatever give you comfort serves its purpose.

After studying many, many theories and scientific analyses regard the Shroud's authenticity I came to the conclusion that it was most probably a fake for the reason I mentioned above.
Throughout it's frequently cloaked history the Holy See has deliberately perpetrated frauds in their efforts to strengthen their foundation -a practice which still continues today.

If you REALLY believe that the bones and organs revered in reliquaries in
Catholic santuaries around the world are truly genuine then the church has accomplished its goal... the clever sculpting of myth. I've seen the 'undecayed' body of Saint Bernadette of Lourdes and noted the thick layer of wax covering her claimed 'perfect' and 'corruption-free' face and hands. I could accomplish the same thing with a rotting melon. For a display, I once sprayed a loaf of bread with polyurethane. Five years later, it still looks fresh from the oven. It's quite stale, I'm sure... but it's NOT moldy! Is this proof of a miracle?
Hardly.

Most recently in the news we have reports that tests are to be done on relics of St. Joan of Arc. Even if these tests prove little, the church of their deposit had better install additional pews for the newly-faithful.
For, if nothing else history has shown that people will always flock to see a sideshow, regardless of the presence of truth.

"I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.

But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.

As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed." -Galatians 1:6-9

For anyone interested in this subject, I thoroughly recommend Ian Wilson's many books about the Shroud. Although he's a confirmed believer in the 'Christ's burial cloth' hypothesis, I found Wilson to be very fair-minded indeed. Particularly recommended is 'Holy Places, Secret Places'.

OP here.


so is that a yes or a no to my question

nolo me tangere,

when they tested the blood samples on the shroud of turin, did they find the God gene?

Its a fake.

The image on the shroud is of Jacques de Molay. It's a Templar relic.

Jesus and Mary are both "walking" as we speak. The only difference is that Jesus has always been "walking" ie: alive & transmutating whilst Mary has been around (this time round for approximately 40 yrs) {{she is the holy grail}}

The Shroud of Turin is a FAKE.

The depiction of Jesus that we all know and love did not come about until after the fall of Byzantium, HUNDREDS of years after his death...and then was based on the profile of the son of a powerful Church leader.

You're all suckers. Don't worship idols!

THE JESUS CONSPIRACY :
THE TURIN SHROUD &
THE SECRETS ABOUT THE RESURRECTION

Two Burials In St. John's Gospel
Therefore let us go back to that dramatic hour on Good Friday, when Jesus was nailed to the cross and the same day hurriedly put in the tomb.

Let us then turn to the text of John as a record which describes a historical event.

It is a rather long, fact filled, interesting, enlightening article.
For those who want to know.

[link to www.apollonius.net]

You're all suckers. Don't worship idols!

look half-way down page for Jesus as a serpent god & the turin shroud resemblence.
[link to williamhenry.net]

67789:
To suggest that ignorant peasantry were sophisticated enough to recognize the possible future importance of so-called 'relics' is absolutely ABSURD!
These people believed whatever the Church told them to believe and questioned NOT.
Further: during this time period ALL
'scientific' data was viewed as heresy and was punishable by the same fate of the Maid of Orleans.
How otherwise rational people could venerate a 'relic' is questionable at best -but, then there are those among us who collect autographs of professional wrestlers with the concept that they really have SOMETHING so obviously ignorance has most certainly not gone out of style!
Indeed, it appears to be flourishing, still!
OP: you'll NEVER get an accurate answer to your inquiry as long as the faithful walk among us, for to them the Church is [and always will be] infallable and incapable of misleading its collective flock.
How sad mankind has progressed so little in the last 500 years.

It recently came to my attention that it may be the image of Jaques De Molay.Grandmaster of the Knights Templar.I read his story. It is equally horrifying.

67789:
Sorry[!]: One final point -

The reason that we still entertain and avidly discuss the authenticity of the Shroud Of Turin is the basis of all Christianity... without a resurrection, there can be no Christ.

The Church has for centuries waved the Shroud as a banner in the faces of the faithful as verifiable proof of their doctrines.

Thus, we discuss!

67789:
WOW! What timing! We were composing responses simultaneously.
My use of the term 'ignorant peasants' was NOT derogatory, but merely historically accurate. The working classes were most certainly undereducated- what little study they had came from [guess who???] the Church, which taught.... well, you can figure that out.
Only the wealthier classes were allowed access to 'true' knowledge; but, don't forget that all scholars of the period were also under the oppressive thumb of the papacy.
And, I think you'll find that the reverence of Roman citizenry for these
'criminals against Ceasar' was severely lacking during the earliest days of the foundation of the Church of Saint Peter. Indeed, most of the common populace were [again, forgive my use of the inflammatory term] ignorant of the movement that the Christian martyrs created. That of course, changed with time.
Carbon-dating for all church relics?
Why bother? As I alluded earlier, the results will make very little difference to the devoted and have minimal impact upon the scientific world [BTW: thanks[!] for the compliment!] ~~~ so, all things considered why not let all those tired old bones rest, eh?
On the OTHER hand... it may make for some very lively discussions here at GLP!!!