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So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands

 
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To be honest, they can't do such a move. Egypt already has societal and financial problems, the last thing they want to add are diplomatic tensions and possible international isolation.

Greece however has a problem 'cos the potential EEZ coincides with both Cypriot and Egyptian EEZs, and Egypt does not accept the Megisti-Stroggyli-Rho EEZ, clearly because of Turkish intervention.
 Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 35718159


Yeah, sounds a decade late, oil companies are already in Cyprus, foreign influence to scrap deals is same in Libya and Albania.
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
In an all out war involving only Greece and Turkey, who wins? Can either overpower the other?

Could the Turks take the islands?

Could the Greeks retake any territory they lost in 1920?
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
There won't be a full-scale war, 'cos obviously this lead to collapse of NATO and direct Russian intervention.

It's almost impossible for the Turks to take big islands 'cos this means huge mobility of air-mobile/airborne units. Same with Thrace in the mainland borders of Greece and Turkey.

In smaller, uninhabited or low inhabited islands they have many more chances. Some years ago Greek officials were examining a "Falklands-style" Turkish invasion of certain islands, crucial for the Greek EEZ, which, according to the Turks, have "disputed status".
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Greece starts joint navy drills with US and Israel between Crete and South East Med. Drills ends on March 21st.
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Greece is screwed if they go to war with Turkey.
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Could very well be. FYI Greece is not governed by Greeks the last 3 years, this is international criminal banking cartel, EU and IMF war-mongering that want to push the 2 countries in to a conflict after they sold to both of the countries billions and billions worth of weapons. Parallels with the 1967 CIA imposed military coup that led to Cyprus invasion are obvious for me.

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bump
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Greece, Turkey Can’t Agree On Sea Deal

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The Greco-Turkish dispute over the Aegean Sea : a possible solution ?


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The Greco-Turkish dispute over the Aegean Sea : a possible solution ?


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Thanks for links mate. cheers
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
siren2 siren2 siren2

Turkey sent verbal notice to the UN rejecting Greece's claim that the island shave Continental Shelf and Exclusive Economic Zone(EEZ)

[link to translate.google.gr]

More to follow. Coincidence eh? New Pope, Eurozone in the brink of collapse, Juncker admitting Europe is going to face a new war...
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siren2 siren2 siren2

Turkey sent verbal notice to the UN rejecting Greece's claim that the island shave Continental Shelf and Exclusive Economic Zone(EEZ)

[link to translate.google.gr]

More to follow. Coincidence eh? New Pope, Eurozone in the brink of collapse, Juncker admitting Europe is going to face a new war...
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Not unexpected, not a coincidence. 5a
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Don't expect peace when Erdogan acts like a "Sultan" and Davotoglu praises "Ottoman pride and heritage".
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There will be peace when the filth is driven back to Turkestan.
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Shut up Yank.Try if you dare,those lands would be your grave.
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They won't have to. Russia plans to turn Turkey into a sheet of glass
hiding
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well that would be just fine...
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Genocidal Maniac
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fu, turkey...if greece and turkey go to war the muzz in the white house may support you, but the people of this country will support greece...
 Quoting: davvi


As if i fucking care who people of US support.I dont give a flying fuck.Also who give you right to speak for the whole US population?Most of you cant even find greece or turkey on the map.Fuck off mossad shill!I will cheer when americans wake up and kick you dual citizen traitors out of their country.
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Turkey is claiming Greek continental shelf in the islands of Rhodos and Kastelorizo


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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Russia is moving into the Aegean.

Look for a Gazprom deal to be signed over the next few days (Currently a german/russian deal is being played) and this will make it difficult for the U.S. which is using Turkey as a proxy to block a Russian move into the Gas/oil fields.

Italy has already agreed to restart the building of a new connection to the peleponese and with Spain and France now realising that the resources in Greece are huge are beginning to realign their strategies for Resource procurement.

For those who want the Euro to collapse be careful what you wish for.

Greece needs to sell the Resources it has using the Euro and not a devaluated Drahma.

Remember it was the Anglo's (U.S/U.K) that where jealous of how productive Germany had become and started WW1/WWII. Yes there where other geopolitical reason but it was germany/russia that where against Federal reserve type private banks and this is happening again.

Why do you think Germany is against setting up more power to the ECB?

Has Germany and other Euro countries made mistakes yes plenty but who put the bad derivatives onto the books of European banks?
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Turkey is claiming Greek continental shelf in the islands of Rhodos and Kastelorizo


[link to translate.google.gr]
 Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 35949365


spock

Nice. EU is also voting for EEZ and Energy Roadmap 2050 today.
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Russia is moving into the Aegean.

Look for a Gazprom deal to be signed over the next few days (Currently a german/russian deal is being played) and this will make it difficult for the U.S. which is using Turkey as a proxy to block a Russian move into the Gas/oil fields.

Italy has already agreed to restart the building of a new connection to the peleponese and with Spain and France now realising that the resources in Greece are huge are beginning to realign their strategies for Resource procurement.

For those who want the Euro to collapse be careful what you wish for.

Greece needs to sell the Resources it has using the Euro and not a devaluated Drahma.

Remember it was the Anglo's (U.S/U.K) that where jealous of how productive Germany had become and started WW1/WWII. Yes there where other geopolitical reason but it was germany/russia that where against Federal reserve type private banks and this is happening again.

Why do you think Germany is against setting up more power to the ECB?

Has Germany and other Euro countries made mistakes yes plenty but who put the bad derivatives onto the books of European banks?
 Quoting: Anonymous 33714435


Thanks for interesting post and view. Yes, Russia is trying to move in the Med, Gazprom president met Samaras yesterday, we'll be in massive trouble if we sell the natgas company to Gazprom or any other Russian company though, nothing off the table after that, i expect major provocations if that happens.

I don't think that euro will ever be an oil/natgas trade currency tbh, but never say never, north-south division is inevitable for the survival of EU/euro, swhtf big time if not, Greece and rest of the south can't keep up with this currency, with the euro most Greeks will be dead in 10 years time that Greece will be able to sell some of the resources, it's a very problematic currency and even oil/gas/gold can't save it imo. Always interesting to see the German deals with Russia though.
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The vote on the European Parliament got a delay for the European MP and vice-president Georgios Papastamkos passed out during the voting process.

Parliament VP Papastamkos, who earlier collapsed in the European Parliament plenary chamber after the #CAP vote, has been taken to hospital

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Speedy recovery and I hope it's not a stroke.
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The vote on the European Parliament got a delay for the European MP and vice-president Georgios Papastamkos passed out during the voting process.

Parliament VP Papastamkos, who earlier collapsed in the European Parliament plenary chamber after the #CAP vote, has been taken to hospital

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Speedy recovery and I hope it's not a stroke.
 Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 11314535


Wtf. Speedy recovery indeed.
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Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands
Joint Cypriot-Israeli drill starts tommorow
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Joint Cypriot-Israeli drill starts tommorow
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Turks will cry about it.. they consider the whole mediterranean sea as their EEZ.
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Joint Cypriot-Israeli drill starts tommorow
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Turks will cry about it.. they consider the whole mediterranean sea as their EEZ.
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Read a report from Turkish War Academy and a think tank that is widely accepted by them, they 'negotiate/advocate' the whole Cypriot EEZ without Cyprus and want to find the median line straight with Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, so yeah, what you say it's true, they think it's all theirs.
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European arrangement of the EEZ requested by European Parliament's resolution


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^^^

Ooops, sorry I wanted to add the bump sign.

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European arrangement of the EEZ requested by European Parliament's resolution


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 Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 11314535


Hello bro, thanks for sharing. The you know who disinfo defense website is making things up today, i've read the original EU text some weeks back and mentions nothing for co-sharing, Greece or Turkey. Just says that negotiations and potential frictions can take place for EEZ, nothing more nothing less.

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Here it is the artcile 77 who supposedly says these things:
Emphasises that the granting of licensing rights for drilling and the delineation of EEZs will become a source of friction with third countries, and that the EU should maintain a high political profile in this respect and seek to preclude international discord; underlines that energy should be used as a motor for peace, environmental integrity, cooperation and stability;

[link to www.europarl.europa.eu]

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Correct, but don't forget it's not only the issue between Greece and Turkey. There are issued between Malta-Libya (I think they came to an agreement), Greenland's EEZ in the North Pole, and also between Porugal and Spain over Ilhas Selvagens

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Correct, but don't forget it's not only the issue between Greece and Turkey. There are issued between Malta-Libya (I think they came to an agreement), Greenland's EEZ in the North Pole, and also between Porugal and Spain over Ilhas Selvagens

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 11314535


Yep. cheers
Just that website pisses me off, completely making things up, people not smart to research will believe these things, disinfo spreading is bad. :)
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Why you think it's called "pradvanet"? Plus, it is now registered to a Bulgarian living in Athens (Kypseli).

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Why you think it's called "pradvanet"? Plus, it is now registered to a Bulgarian living in Athens (Kypseli).

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 Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 11314535


Amazing.
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Turkish oceanographic research vessel in Greek territorial waters/continental shelf between Rhodes and Kastelorizo. Greece complains to Turkey. Another cruise by a Turkish corvette in the Aegean islands, Greek armed forces in state of alarm.
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