So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands | |
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Anatolian User ID: 34560495 Turkey 02/16/2013 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means. hahahh you guys speaking nonsense.. IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses.. TURKEY + USA = LOVE AND USA + EU = ? no love ? So .. logic ? or no logic ? What attacks, what wars are you speaking about... total ignorance.. peace yooo we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist. Get off your high horse dude, your country is no way in a position to decide which nation exist or not. If we manage to kick out american puppets in control,i would gladly accept an alliance with our brothers Iranians. You cant do shit.Even some afghani shepherds with rusty Aks and Rpgs kicked your sorry ass. People like you are the ones who give Americans a bad reputation throughout the globe |
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User ID: 34523998 Belgium 02/18/2013 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands ... Quoting: Seelenheilkunde I wouldn't say so,if Greece will be attacked by the turks all neighbouring countries including here :Bulgaria,Serbia,Romania or Russia will go helping the greeks will all means. hahahh you guys speaking nonsense.. IGNORANT NONSENSE .. not exucses.. TURKEY + USA = LOVE AND USA + EU = ? no love ? So .. logic ? or no logic ? What attacks, what wars are you speaking about... total ignorance.. peace yooo we only have an interest in turkey as long as they are a muslim democracy that supports our wars and ambitions. there is no love. are you new to politics? all turkey needs is to elect a shia radical and they become part of the axis of evil, but as long as they have contracts with the pentagon and they pay their bill on time, we will allow them to exist. Get off your high horse dude, your country is no way in a position to decide which nation exist or not. If we manage to kick out american puppets in control,i would gladly accept an alliance with our brothers Iranians. You cant do shit.Even some afghani shepherds with rusty Aks and Rpgs kicked your sorry ass. People like you are the ones who give Americans a bad reputation throughout the globe hehe yes and no my turkey brother .. Neither they (USA) .. neither the others they ( the shephards ) wanted a big thing.. especially the first ones.> They have easier way, a satellite weapons, if so much needed, but noooo, THERE MUST BE A PROLONGED CONFLICT.. SO U CAN SELL WEAPONS.. You guys really dont get it.. those AK's are waay above '' rusty '' and trust me, on a RPG, there's nothing much to rust ..... But you still do not get it : " THERE MUST BE A PROLONGED CONFLICT.. SO U CAN SELL WEAPONS.. " SO WHERE THOSE AK's COME FROM ? ... THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST IS FLOODED WITH THEM, AND MAYBE I LOVE RUSSIA.. BUT ITS THE ONLY PLACE RIGHT ABOUT NOW THAT MASSEVLEY PRODUCES AKs ..... So then again... Syria, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Afghanista... and many many more.. ALL USE AK-47 ................ AND NEXT TO THEM IS RUSSIA.. NOW EVEN A TWO YEARS OLD GONNA GUESS THE RIGHT ANSWER.. really sad Ive gotta point all those facts.... peace yo and WAKE UP These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)--------------------------------------EACH ONE TEACH ONE----------------------------------------P.OSiTiVE -> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <- ----------------------------------------------------NO JUSTICE----------------------------------------------E.NERGY is the only way youths listen to--------------------------------------------------------------------------------JUST US---------------------------------------A.CTiVATES the Prophets !!! ------------------------------------"..artificial physical material posessions posses you--------------------------------------------------------C.ONSTANT -----------------------------------------------------------------------------you are your own self rescue------------------------------------------------------------E.LEVATiON PROOF -> 'CAN YOU CATCH iT???' --------------------------------------GOD BLESS YOU " [link to www.youtube.com] ---------------------------- remembah: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH [link to www.youtube.com] separation is the ego's greatest politRick----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [link to www.youtube.com] CONTROL YOUR OWN THOUGHT PATTERNS ! Do NOT allow to be controlled ! -------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- SELF-DESTRUCTION IS THA POWA LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D ----------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE FUNCTION IS !!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- [link to www.youtube.com] peace2daUNIVERSE------------------- There's NO MYSTERiES, ONLY KNOWLEDGE & iGNORANCE ----------------- SAD TO SEE MEDICINE DIVORCE MORALITY... ;/ |
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User ID: 34523998 Belgium 02/18/2013 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands not get it ?? okey then .. BUUUUUUUUUUUUMP These dayz through THA REAL RAP (element of hip-hop)--------------------------------------EACH ONE TEACH ONE----------------------------------------P.OSiTiVE -> (THERE iS NO REAL RAP ON TV or RADiOs) <- ----------------------------------------------------NO JUSTICE----------------------------------------------E.NERGY is the only way youths listen to--------------------------------------------------------------------------------JUST US---------------------------------------A.CTiVATES the Prophets !!! ------------------------------------"..artificial physical material posessions posses you--------------------------------------------------------C.ONSTANT -----------------------------------------------------------------------------you are your own self rescue------------------------------------------------------------E.LEVATiON PROOF -> 'CAN YOU CATCH iT???' --------------------------------------GOD BLESS YOU " [link to www.youtube.com] ---------------------------- remembah: FEAR iS THA MiND-KiLLAH [link to www.youtube.com] separation is the ego's greatest politRick----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [link to www.youtube.com] CONTROL YOUR OWN THOUGHT PATTERNS ! Do NOT allow to be controlled ! -------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- SELF-DESTRUCTION IS THA POWA LiGHT = iNFORMATiON ;D ----------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------- WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE FUNCTION IS !!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- [link to www.youtube.com] peace2daUNIVERSE------------------- There's NO MYSTERiES, ONLY KNOWLEDGE & iGNORANCE ----------------- SAD TO SEE MEDICINE DIVORCE MORALITY... ;/ |
An ordinary Greek User ID: 24388155 Greece 02/19/2013 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Seems we've got the "go ahead" for the EEZ. Greek PM: There're energy resources within the Greek EEZ. [link to translate.google.gr] And seems France is in favour of the EEZ declaration, although Hollande is pro-Turkey. |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/19/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands We had very important elections taking place in Cyprus 2 days ago. Anastasiades who is pro-bailout, won the first round and is a favorite to win next week too in the second and final round. Hacker group Anonymous threatened to attack Cyprus election without giving a precise reason for it other than that "the future of Cyprus, the future of the world, the future of all of us" depends on these elections. [link to www.globalpost.com] [link to www.youtube.com] Anastasiades is or at least as he says 'was' a pro-Annan plan politician as he had supported the plan. Uncovered by various wikileaks cables he seems to be supportive for a new Annan plan.Turks and Turkish press off course were rooting for an Anastasiades win. [link to translate.google.gr] [link to www.todayszaman.com] The daily and most important news the last couple of months in Cyprus, besides the elections, are the bailout negotiations and if Russia is going to be involved in the bailout or not, troika wants to take control of the energy revenues and gas deposits and the negotiations are ongoing for months now. Off course troika attempts to snatch the gas revenues haven't gone down too well with Cypriot govt. Eurogroup president: future revenues from natural gas deposits in Cyprus could be taken into account in bailout talks, Deutsche Bank seems to agree with him too off course. [link to www.cyprus-mail.com] [link to famagusta-gazette.com] Cypus Commerce Minister: Cyprus can manage its own gas thanks, Cyprus govt spokesman: Some are coveting the Russian deposits and possibly natural gas in Cyprus [link to www.cyprus-mail.com] [link to translate.google.gr] [link to translate.google.gr] ECB President Draghi at odds with German Finance Minister Schäuble over Cyprus bailout, ECB's Asmussen sees Cyprus bailout by end of March [link to www.spiegel.de] [link to www.ekathimerini.com] Russia's Medvedev: help for Cyprus only if conditions met, G-20 meeting: EU Official Urges Russia to Join Cyprus Bailout [link to www.indiaeveryday.in] [link to online.wsj.com] In other news, Cyprus has upgraded Palestine’s diplomatic mission to that of an embassy, Hellenic-Israeli alliance is formed in US congress for the first time. [link to www.cyprus-mail.com] [link to translate.google.gr] [link to www.washingtontimes.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/19/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Don't forget to cover the defense pact that is developing between Israel and Greece, in exchange for drilling rights of course. Quoting: MHz Well, since the defense pact has been signed in 2011, it's not that "developing" now is it? I don't have problem to report something about it, but i think everyone in the world is aware of it after the mini-crisis in Cyprus on 2011. You're wrong off course about the 'exchange for drilling rights' and jumping to your own conclusions. Firstly, Greece is years away from drilling, secondly Israel doesn't need more drilling rights anywhere else, both Leviathan and Tamar have more natgas and drilling rights than Israel can handle, this is about geographical space and Israel having common maritime borders with the EU so they can sell/transport their gas in Europe and they have decided to do this through Cyprus/Greece, that's why Turkey is pissed and that's why the sea between Greece and Cyprus and the EEZ of Kastelorizo are very important for this story. Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 02/19/2013 08:51 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/19/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands All of the oil and natural gas is in the Ionian Sea and below Crete, so there isn't actually anything to be bothered with the Turks. There is no obstacle in exploiting these oil/gas sources other than they must estimate their sizes. Until now they estimate it in some trillion of euros worth only for the one under Crete, so this is not bad at all. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34404947 That's true. According to Lygeros estimates there are 20 billion barrels under Crete, 6 billion in Aegean and 2 billion in Ionian. |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/19/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Could very well be. FYI Greece is not governed by Greeks the last 3 years, this is international criminal banking cartel, EU and IMF war-mongering that want to push the 2 countries in to a conflict after they sold to both of the countries billions and billions worth of weapons. Parallels with the 1967 CIA imposed military coup that led to Cyprus invasion are obvious for me. they are both in NATO. unless the treaty is broken, which seems unlikely without some sort of larger war that they get sucked into, then they will have to compromise on who gets the islands. looks like greece is taking advantage of the syria situation. Both NATO indeed and that's what i'm telling since the start, this can't go full scale annihilation, it always have been a controllable conflict by all major powers, maybe a 2-day conflict at most but that's about it. Islands are not disputable and most of them are inhabited by Greek population, so there won't be any dealing there just typical Turkish twisting of intl. law foreign policy. Islands are the excuse for Turkey who just want some oil, point is if an energy-thirsty EU will give them some from EU soil. EU in it's own EEZ maps fully back the Greek position on the matter, should be interesting for sure. |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/19/2013 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Get off your high horse dude, your country is no way in a position to decide which nation exist or not. Quoting: Anatolian 34560495 If we manage to kick out american puppets in control,i would gladly accept an alliance with our brothers Iranians. You cant do shit.Even some afghani shepherds with rusty Aks and Rpgs kicked your sorry ass. People like you are the ones who give Americans a bad reputation throughout the globe Whats up Anatolian? Hope you're well. Alliance with Iran is quite hard to be achieved they way things are going right now imo, lots of things need to happen, a revolution probably. Already fighting 1 and half proxy war with them and i can see one more coming soon. |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/19/2013 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Seems we've got the "go ahead" for the EEZ. Greek PM: There're energy resources within the Greek EEZ. [link to translate.google.gr] And seems France is in favour of the EEZ declaration, although Hollande is pro-Turkey. Nice, he also said that oil/natgas should be exploited according to international law and that France is willing to help. Where does it come from that Hollande is pro-Turkey? |
An ordinary Greek User ID: 24388155 Greece 02/19/2013 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands From this France says ready to unblock EU entry talks with Turkey on regional policy [link to thestar.com.my] |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/19/2013 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands From this Quoting: An ordinary Greek 24388155 France says ready to unblock EU entry talks with Turkey on regional policy [link to thestar.com.my] If it's only from this and the unblocking of certain chapters it doesn't mean that he is pro-something imho coz both EU and Turkey know that there's no chance for all the chapters getting completed. Hollande is going to Armenia for the Genocide Remembrance Day, he's also supportive of criminalizing Armenian genocide in France but this move usually stops by business interests between the two countries, doesn't strike me as a pro-Turkey dude tbh. Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 02/19/2013 10:30 AM |
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An Ordinary Greek User ID: 24388155 Greece 02/21/2013 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Greece files Note Verbale [verbal notice]to the UN over Greek continental shelf [link to translate.google.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/21/2013 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Greece files Note Verbale [verbal notice]to the UN over Greek continental shelf [link to translate.google.com] |
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An Ordinary Greek User ID: 24388155 Greece 02/21/2013 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Avramopoulos (Greek Minister of Foreign Affairs) explaining the reason for informing the UN. Turkey wants to conduct search on Greek continental shelf and territorial waters [link to translate.google.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/21/2013 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands Avramopoulos (Greek Minister of Foreign Affairs) explaining the reason for informing the UN. Turkey wants to conduct search on Greek continental shelf and territorial waters[/quote [link to translate.google.com] Thanks for updates Ordinary Greek, appreciate it. Violations of airspace and territorial waters are endless the last couple of days. Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 02/21/2013 03:53 PM |
An Ordinary Greek User ID: 24388155 Greece 02/21/2013 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands It's been like that for the last 10 days. Apparently they're trying to find the exact locations the Exocet anti-ship missiles. Read this twitter account the converstions between Kipreos and gmillisis. [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/21/2013 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands It's been like that for the last 10 days. Apparently they're trying to find the exact locations the Exocet anti-ship missiles. Read this twitter account the converstions between Kipreos and gmillisis. Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 24388155 [link to twitter.com (secure)] Yeah i know, posted a bit about Kalymnos, locals complaining there, but today and yesterday was something else. Drougos says he's gonna do a story about Samos soon, apparently shtf wasn't that far away there either, red alert and all, kept secret so far. Last Edited by insertfunnyusername on 02/21/2013 04:06 PM |
An Ordinary Greek User ID: 24388155 Greece 02/21/2013 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands LOL, LOL, LOL Velopoulos says that, according to his sources, the shelf coordinates are till the 25th parallel. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Avramopoulos refers to the shelf of ALL Greek islands. And yes, this included Megisti, Rho, Stroggyly, the area Turkish Petroleum Company (TPAO) wants to conduct. I once respected him, but stopped listening to him when voted in favour of the first IMF/ECB/EuroCommision MoU |
An Ordinary Greek User ID: 24388155 Greece 02/21/2013 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands The islands of Rhodos and Kastelorizo have full shelf and EZZ. There's also the "note verbale" that was submitted to the UN [link to translate.google.com] |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/21/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands LOL, LOL, LOL Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 24388155 Velopoulos says that, according to his sources, the shelf coordinates are till the 25th parallel. [link to twitter.com (secure)] Avramopoulos refers to the shelf of ALL Greek islands. And yes, this included Megisti, Rho, Stroggyly, the area Turkish Petroleum Company (TPAO) wants to conduct. I once respected him, but stopped listening to him when voted in favour of the first IMF/ECB/EuroCommision MoU Lol, that's a very weird interpretation of the move. Why would he say that? Never been a fan of Velopoulos tbh, all these things with selling books and tile-asty would be quite an embarrassment for every politician imho. |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/21/2013 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands IMPORTANT! Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 24388155 The islands of Rhodos and Kastelorizo have full shelf and EZZ. There's also the "note verbale" that was submitted to the UN [link to translate.google.com] Guess we gonna have to wait for the response now. |
An Ordinary Greek User ID: 24388155 Greece 02/21/2013 04:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands I wonder if it'll be after the Cypriot elections or within 48 hours. I'm waiting for an article from a Turkish pro-Erdogan newspaper. I also wonder what are Papandreou and Droutsas now thinking... |
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(OP) User ID: 33954516 Greece 02/21/2013 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: So It Begins: Turkey Warns Greece Against Oil Exploration In The Aegean, Turkish experts accuse Greece of illegally snatching 16 islands I wonder if it'll be after the Cypriot elections or within 48 hours. I'm waiting for an article from a Turkish pro-Erdogan newspaper. Quoting: An Ordinary Greek 24388155 I also wonder what are Papandreou and Droutsas now thinking... Could be just a destabilization inside the country imo, govt is not that stable lately,riots half of what Dekembriana were and they're down, and it's really not that hard to achieve right now with the society getting restless. I think the Cyprus elections will go as planned, it's in their favor after all. |