BREAKING # Obama Gives OK For BLACK BOX DATA RECORDERS to Be Installed in ALL CARS | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27129259 United States 12/10/2012 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | therefore they have you, when ever they want you, don't say shit, don't say shinola against them, kiss their ring, do their slave labor, go home and shut up, eat your mush and drink your vodka.... no freedom, no hiding from the evil, evil government thats simply what its all about the cell door is slamming shut |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1405546 United States 12/10/2012 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most new cars have a black box, idiots Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29403640 When I was towing, ICBC would come get the cpu box under the seat for crash investigations. What I'd be worried about is shit like gps and on-star and that microphone in your rear view mirror. I would be more worried about hackers. It isn't too hard to hack them if you have the right equipment. Which can be purchased online. A car behind you could have a passenger hacker with a laptop activating your microphone to listen in. Even activate the speaker to send a message. |
geminilion
User ID: 12895036 United States 12/10/2012 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have to wonder what other information will be gathered that they don't tell you about. ..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way." Heraclitus |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15993935 Netherlands 12/10/2012 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second of all, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935 Identification laws not only require YOU to show ID but also the person ASKING your ID. Really? And how does that look like? A cop showing his ID? You must be joking! This is the law that Dutch police MUST follow: >>>> Artikel 2 De ambtenaar legitimeert zich met het legitimatiebewijs dat aan hem is verstrekt: a. bij optreden in burgerkleding ongevraagd, tenzij bijzondere omstandigheden dit onmogelijk maken, en b. bij optreden in uniform, op verzoek daartoe. <<<<< See, it's in the LAW. Now if you had taken the time to read the LAW instead of conspiracy theory bullshit pieces trying to scare you to make the conspiracy theorists more money. Then you would be ; 1. Less scared and anxious. 2. More confident and knowledgable about your rights. I've had discussions with police officers where the police officer actually admits that there are police officers out there that do not do their work properly and only harrass people. (In plain English the law states that an officer must identify him/herself if asked by a citizen, UNLESS, special circumstances make this impossible, such as during a fight, robbery, arrest of other people. Part B states that even if they are in UNIFORM they must show their Identification if asked by people) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29234319 United States 12/10/2012 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
RoXY
(OP) User ID: 19973059 Netherlands 12/10/2012 08:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second of all, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935 Identification laws not only require YOU to show ID but also the person ASKING your ID. Really? And how does that look like? A cop showing his ID? You must be joking! This is the law that Dutch police MUST follow: >>>> Artikel 2 De ambtenaar legitimeert zich met het legitimatiebewijs dat aan hem is verstrekt: a. bij optreden in burgerkleding ongevraagd, tenzij bijzondere omstandigheden dit onmogelijk maken, en b. bij optreden in uniform, op verzoek daartoe. <<<<< See, it's in the LAW. Now if you had taken the time to read the LAW instead of conspiracy theory bullshit pieces trying to scare you to make the conspiracy theorists more money. Then you would be ; 1. Less scared and anxious. 2. More confident and knowledgable about your rights. Bijdehand. You ask a cop for his servicenumber (dienstnummer). But you avoid answering the issue I mentioned. The fact that laws are introduced for petty reasons, and used to rob citizens. The ID law is a perfect example of that. And perhaps you never had a problem, but there are tens of thousands of people who got a fine for something as a broken light on their bicycle, - very common in cities - and than another one for not being able to show their ID. A drivers license for instance, is NOT a legitimate ID. Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21427624 Canada 12/10/2012 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NHTSA claims that “EDRs do not collect any personal identifying information or record conversations and do not run continuously.” Also in the news: 1. I love you 2. Check's in the mail. 3. I won't *** in your mouth :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27972246 United States 12/10/2012 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can shut down any car built after 1988 via satalite, across the grid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29489824 So why don't they do this in high speed chases? Or earlier this year when those thugs were driving through LA throwing cash out the windows... I hear that RGPs work pretty good for that purpose. |
-GooGooFlexy-
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Spitting Into The Wind
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Burt Gummer
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truthwillsetyoufreeagain
User ID: 23952927 United States 12/10/2012 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't think bikes are allowed on the highway. Unless you mean motorcycles. Hmmm, wonder if the fascists will be putting a black box in motorcycles. ______________ As long as I am an American citizen and American blood runs in these veins I shall hold myself at liberty to speak, to write, and to publish whatever I please on any subject.” - Elijah Parish Lovejoy(1802-1837) All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent...Thomas Jefferson The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government...Thomas Jefferson When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty...Thomas Jefferson Truth will ultimately prevail where there is pains to bring it to light...George Washington |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15993935 Netherlands 12/10/2012 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Second of all, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935 Identification laws not only require YOU to show ID but also the person ASKING your ID. Really? And how does that look like? A cop showing his ID? You must be joking! This is the law that Dutch police MUST follow: >>>> Artikel 2 De ambtenaar legitimeert zich met het legitimatiebewijs dat aan hem is verstrekt: a. bij optreden in burgerkleding ongevraagd, tenzij bijzondere omstandigheden dit onmogelijk maken, en b. bij optreden in uniform, op verzoek daartoe. <<<<< See, it's in the LAW. Now if you had taken the time to read the LAW instead of conspiracy theory bullshit pieces trying to scare you to make the conspiracy theorists more money. Then you would be ; 1. Less scared and anxious. 2. More confident and knowledgable about your rights. Bijdehand. You ask a cop for his servicenumber (dienstnummer). But you avoid answering the issue I mentioned. The fact that laws are introduced for petty reasons, and used to rob citizens. The ID law is a perfect example of that. And perhaps you never had a problem, but there are tens of thousands of people who got a fine for something as a broken light on their bicycle, - very common in cities - and than another one for not being able to show their ID. A drivers license for instance, is NOT a legitimate ID. You are obviously misinformed. Enjoy your misinformed life. Sayonara. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22890929 United States 12/10/2012 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This technology is already in your car. (ECU) engine control unit. (BCU) body control unit (TCU) transmission control unit. All these computers have memory that can be downloaded. Can't be removed or your car won't run. Move along....not an issue. |
FatalW1shes
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RoXY
(OP) User ID: 19973059 Netherlands 12/10/2012 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are obviously misinformed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15993935 Enjoy your misinformed life. Sayonara. Enjoy yours Last Edited by RoXY on 12/10/2012 09:50 AM Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213681 United States 12/10/2012 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $100 bucks says that will nullify your insurance policy. ..and you KNOW they will do something like that. :grnrolleyes: Older cars are made better anyway. Which happens first, world destruction or putting up with some temporary sh*t spawned by madmen until they choke on their own improbable antivisionary pile of rot. :D |
-GooGooFlexy-
User ID: 16797449 United States 12/10/2012 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | $100 bucks says that will nullify your insurance policy. ..and you KNOW they will do something like that. I hate to say it...but it's likely true in most states. However, SC doesn't do inspections or anything and I know some dudes down here that empty out the catalytic converters and sell the platinum lol. It ups the power and sound too. Never any issues with insurance or po po. -GooGooFlexy- |
TTX8K82
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RoXY
(OP) User ID: 19973059 Netherlands 12/10/2012 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
Burt Gummer
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29550674 United States 12/10/2012 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "You know that “check engine” light on your dashboard? What if instead of just telling you that the car’s computer has detected some fault with the emissions control system, it told the government – via roadside readers and satellite uplinks? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16151153 It’s called OBD III – and it’s right around the corner." "It would also be possible to send the info directly to any nearby cop, who would then pull you over immediately – saving the government some time while making some more money off motorists. This is not sci-fi. It’s impending reality. All the technical issues have been solved. Most new cars already come with GPS systems capable of receiving and sending data. It would be a simple matter to salt the roads with scanners capable of ID’ing every car that passes by, automatically establishing a communications link with your car’s computer. This would occur continuously and constantly, too – not just every once-in-a-while. OBD III as envisioned would literally make it possible to constantly monitor and record every vehicle so equipped, from the moment it left the driveway to the moment it returned at night." If and when this happens, use an RF Shield around the transceiver to block any signals going out or into the device. The shielding could be made out of tin foil or tin, but make sure all potential openings are sealed to prevent RF transmission. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29550674 United States 12/10/2012 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | most new cars have a black box, idiots Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29403640 When I was towing, ICBC would come get the cpu box under the seat for crash investigations. What I'd be worried about is shit like gps and on-star and that microphone in your rear view mirror. I would be more worried about hackers. It isn't too hard to hack them if you have the right equipment. Which can be purchased online. A car behind you could have a passenger hacker with a laptop activating your microphone to listen in. Even activate the speaker to send a message. Take it to the next level... A hacker, who is a terrorist, hacks into everyone's vehicle and shuts it down. Thereby, stopping all traffic and clogging all roads and highways so that nothing can be delivered by ground based trucking. Imagine no food deliveries to supermarkets, no supplies to manufacturing and industry. No import and export of any goods. Total chaos and anarchy would transpire within 3 days. The USA infrastructure would collapse. To put the icing on the cake, a hacker/terrorist could shut down the power grid by either overloading power stations and transformers or just shutting down the controllers so that no energy can be controlled on the system. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27515407 United States 12/10/2012 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes yes EVERYTHING is about Obama we know we know...cuz if a republican were in the white house this would NEVER happen, I mean it's not like a republican created the Patriot Act or anything...oh wait... you people need to break free of your left/right dichotomy, this is how they control you. |
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doomsucker
User ID: 29206474 United States 12/10/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like a rather good idea to me. Just think of all the useful data that will be gleened from tragic accidents.This can be used to make future structural and technical changes in the cars and trucks so they become even more safe. |
AZ wonders
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RoXY
(OP) User ID: 19973059 Netherlands 12/11/2012 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an 8 year old kid supporting the famous Rotterdam soccer club Feijenoord. The (lucky) shot was made 12 years ago. And the kid's still a fanatical fan. Fabulous tracks (1988-2013) [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Pure Happiness Thread: FEEL GOOD !!! # FOUR (4) - & more - MINUTES of PURE HAPPINESS !!! # (Videos) Good Food Thread: MONSANTO # (GMO) FOOD 4 THOUGHT - Know What You Eat # (Ongoing Videos & Articles) Watch This! Thread: WATCH THIS !!! # An Ongoing, Carefully Selected Collection of MUST SEE VIDEOS Big Brother Thread: BIG BROTHER in the age of INTERNET # (Ongoing - Links, Articles & Videos) Economy Thread: THE ECONOMY & YOU # (Daily Updated Videos & Articles) UFOs Thread: UFO PHOTOS (1200+) # World UFO Photo Gallery + Ongoing Links, Articles & Videos The Better You Look, The More You See... Educate Yourself! |
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