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User ID: 381742 United States 10/24/2012 11:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on Artists are typically right brained and therefore subject to more emotional type of thinking instead of left brain logical thinking...which is why they lean left politically and tend to self-medicate with drugs and alcohol...basically they are just crazy bitches. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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User ID: 23725672 United States 10/24/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on "How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on. As they are genuinely gifted, this does not prevent them from creating masterpieces from time to time. But it is others who benefit from these masterpieces, while they themselves suffer and will go on suffering, so long as they do not impose a discipline on themselves to control the dark forces destroying them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26194600 But this is not something the public generally thinks about. So long as they find certain books or works of art interesting and inspiring, they are not really affected by the tragedies experienced by the creators of these works; in fact, they will even delve eagerly into their biographies and revel in the slightest detail. There is great cruelty in this fascination, but people are not aware of it. And more importantly, they do not know that artists who have not maintained their gifts and talents through inner discipline lose them sooner or later, in this life or the next. Since they have squandered all their capital through their dissolute behaviour, they will return to earth as totally insignificant people. Artistic creation and moral life cannot be kept separate for long." My heart truly aches for gentle spirits such as these. OP, you seem to know about this "first- hand" like you either are currently an artist, believe you are the reincarnation of an artist, or have been close to and loved, intimately a gifted soul. Would you like to enlighten us on this? Maybe we can help in some way? I am an artist, my husband who has Asperger's is a gifted artist and I come from a family whose eldest daughter was a truly gifted pianist and suffered terribly. This topic is, obviously, close to my "pain-body" (as per Eckhart Tolle's THE POWER OF NOW). I can truly relate. Cheers! SK (Proof that the disciple John--seen behind Jesus in the above painting, then at AN AIRPORT in the lower photo) reincarnated. Hmmmmmm!) At least one reincarnating artist had enough cash for an airplane ticket--can't be doing too badly this lifetime! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26147374 United States 10/24/2012 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on i know a genuinely talented and gifted man, or i did...loved him deeply...he's gone now, by his choice. sensitive people, empaths, have a difficult time being understood. people who live in their reptilian brain don't have a clue, do they? brief. |
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User ID: 381742 United States 10/24/2012 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on i know a genuinely talented and gifted man, or i did...loved him deeply...he's gone now, by his choice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26147374 sensitive people, empaths, have a difficult time being understood. people who live in their reptilian brain don't have a clue, do they? brief. There is a balance that you are overlooking... "by his own choice" means suicide, and you don't think that supports my point? LOL I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22413637 United States 10/24/2012 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on Artists are typically right brained and therefore subject to more emotional type of thinking instead of left brain logical thinking...which is why they lean left politically and tend to self-medicate with drugs and alcohol...basically they are just crazy bitches. Quoting: BRIEF Typically yes. I am a freak in that I am a left-brained conservative artist. I won't lie, I have had substance abuse problems in the past as well, though those days are long gone, thankfully. Most of the artists I know are still hardcore alcoholics and stoners though, so your assessment is not totally inaccurate. |
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User ID: 24127987 United States 10/24/2012 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on That photo is a picture of the painting lol. Airport?? Also Jesus and the disciples were not standing for portraits. This may come as a shock but there is no living image of any of them. |
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User ID: 1295673 United States 10/24/2012 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on Artists are typically right brained and therefore subject to more emotional type of thinking instead of left brain logical thinking...which is why they lean left politically and tend to self-medicate with drugs and alcohol...basically they are just crazy bitches. Quoting: BRIEF Typically yes. I am a freak in that I am a left-brained conservative artist. I won't lie, I have had substance abuse problems in the past as well, though those days are long gone, thankfully. Most of the artists I know are still hardcore alcoholics and stoners though, so your assessment is not totally inaccurate. Society routinely disdains the lowly artist in his obscurity... patiently waiting for the opportunity to devour him in his success. It's an old story. |
eve incognito User ID: 25954406 Bosnia and Herzegovina 10/24/2012 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on with no disrespect meant to anyone, art, in this day and age is OBSOLETE, so obsolete. (unless you are a rock band, rock bands are cool). it's an ego trip, at least if you are any good at it. i was a gifted poetess at one point in my life, in two languages no doubt. all it did was inflate my ego, and make me trip that i was this tortured artistic soul, that was somehow more sensitive than avrege person, and therefore doomed to be unhappy.then i just threw it all away and stopped writing, and i was finally free. free to be happy, free no to be talented.free no to mingle with a bunch of pretentious snobs, genius wannabies. free no to get disected by college kids and their unimaginative teachers, in 200 years when i am long dead and gone....free from all that BS, or more importantly, from wanting it, persuing it, and never getting it, untill i am so long dead and gone, that i couldn't possibly care... i still wrote pomes to boys, as a means to get them to fall in love with me, but that never proved as a good strategy, coz the one boy i was meant to be all along, THE ONE, he needed no poems, or to know how smart and talented i was, he was so amazing, and cool, and kind, to love me as i am....as a disturbed screw up, who couldn't do anything right, not even pretend i was an insane bitch....he just loved me....besides people lie in their song, we all do. if i want to do something nice for my husband i should make him dinner, go down on him... do the laundary..etc or SHUT UP....poetry, and writing poems/songs, is for people too afraid/selfish to really do something for the poeple they love... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26147374 United States 10/24/2012 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on i know a genuinely talented and gifted man, or i did...loved him deeply...he's gone now, by his choice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26147374 sensitive people, empaths, have a difficult time being understood. people who live in their reptilian brain don't have a clue, do they? brief. There is a balance that you are overlooking... "by his own choice" means suicide, and you don't think that supports my point? LOL you lack a point because you lack perspective. creative sensitive people think people like YOU are insane. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26147374 United States 10/24/2012 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on with no disrespect meant to anyone, art, in this day and age is OBSOLETE, so obsolete. Quoting: eve incognito 25954406 (unless you are a rock band, rock bands are cool). it's an ego trip, at least if you are any good at it. i was a gifted poetess at one point in my life, in two languages no doubt. all it did was inflate my ego, and make me trip that i was this tortured artistic soul, that was somehow more sensitive than avrege person, and therefore doomed to be unhappy.then i just threw it all away and stopped writing, and i was finally free. free to be happy, free no to be talented.free no to mingle with a bunch of pretentious snobs, genius wannabies. free no to get disected by college kids and their unimaginative teachers, in 200 years when i am long dead and gone....free from all that BS, or more importantly, from wanting it, persuing it, and never getting it, untill i am so long dead and gone, that i couldn't possibly care... i still wrote pomes to boys, as a means to get them to fall in love with me, but that never proved as a good strategy, coz the one boy i was meant to be all along, THE ONE, he needed no poems, or to know how smart and talented i was, he was so amazing, and cool, and kind, to love me as i am....as a disturbed screw up, who couldn't do anything right, not even pretend i was an insane bitch....he just loved me....besides people lie in their song, we all do. if i want to do something nice for my husband i should make him dinner, go down on him... do the laundary..etc or SHUT UP....poetry, and writing poems/songs, is for people too afraid/selfish to really do something for the poeple they love... huh, weird...looks like you were an artist for different reasons than others, ie., ego. but congrats on shutting down your creative impulses. i'm guessing there is flouride in your water. |
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User ID: 381742 United States 10/24/2012 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on i know a genuinely talented and gifted man, or i did...loved him deeply...he's gone now, by his choice. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26147374 sensitive people, empaths, have a difficult time being understood. people who live in their reptilian brain don't have a clue, do they? brief. There is a balance that you are overlooking... "by his own choice" means suicide, and you don't think that supports my point? LOL you lack a point because you lack perspective. creative sensitive people think people like YOU are insane. I'm just stating facts, your feelings about the facts don't change them. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12195955 United States 10/24/2012 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on with no disrespect meant to anyone, art, in this day and age is OBSOLETE, so obsolete. Quoting: eve incognito 25954406 (unless you are a rock band, rock bands are cool). it's an ego trip, at least if you are any good at it. i was a gifted poetess at one point in my life, in two languages no doubt. all it did was inflate my ego, and make me trip that i was this tortured artistic soul, that was somehow more sensitive than avrege person, and therefore doomed to be unhappy.then i just threw it all away and stopped writing, and i was finally free. free to be happy, free no to be talented.free no to mingle with a bunch of pretentious snobs, genius wannabies. free no to get disected by college kids and their unimaginative teachers, in 200 years when i am long dead and gone....free from all that BS, or more importantly, from wanting it, persuing it, and never getting it, untill i am so long dead and gone, that i couldn't possibly care... i still wrote pomes to boys, as a means to get them to fall in love with me, but that never proved as a good strategy, coz the one boy i was meant to be all along, THE ONE, he needed no poems, or to know how smart and talented i was, he was so amazing, and cool, and kind, to love me as i am....as a disturbed screw up, who couldn't do anything right, not even pretend i was an insane bitch....he just loved me....besides people lie in their song, we all do. if i want to do something nice for my husband i should make him dinner, go down on him... do the laundary..etc or SHUT UP....poetry, and writing poems/songs, is for people too afraid/selfish to really do something for the poeple they love... I think this is a totally valid point and I found it insightful! I would say that if you have true creative motivation, then you should create your art because you ENJOY IT or just feel DRIVEN to do it. However, any expectations or desires for MONETARY GAIN or CRITICAL ACCLAIM must be abandoned, because they will mainly drive you crazy and leave you disappointed, which can easily lead to massive depression and substance abuse. Make art because you love it, not because you want people to love you or pay you for it. For musicians especially, it is next to impossible to make ANY money nowadays, let alone enough to live on.. I can speak to that from real experience in performing and producing music, and I have proper albums released on real labels (ie not just self-released CDrs or bandcamp).. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26203530 United States 10/24/2012 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on i enjoy painting i just finished a collection of horse paintings in may, i gave it to a young mexican guy who was going to send it to his father in mexico, i left one in la, the other two are with me......i based the last one on a painting by a mexican artist reveria,{spelling lol} i was fortunate to meet one of his relatives, i had a wonderful time in la, i photographed the eclipse, i am going to paint this on a huge canvas,,,,,, i love painting, nothing would stop me Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26099747 hope your feeling better |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23917036 United States 10/25/2012 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How many artists live in anxiety and torment! To keep going, some indulge in drink, drugs, debauchery, and so on Art can be like metaphorically journaling, or it can just be a painstaking process that obsesses the mind to the point in which thinking is not an option. Thus, people with lots of issues can find creating art an outlet for emotions that may otherwise have negative effects on their life. For some this is enough. But like you said, many indulge in other forms of oblivion. Never leave the mind quiet for the torment that comes in the silence. |