Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13148732 United States 10/20/2012 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- This is the second in a set of readings for politicians and world leaders. This reading was done in the same style as the reading for Mitt Romney, though this time it is for Barack Obama, and performed at 7:15pm, 10/19/2012. Barack Hussein Obama II The same modified Celtic Cross is used, the details of which are in the other thread. I won't explain it much here, just know that positions 4-7 are different, and 11 cards are used. Here are the cards: 1.) Prince of Swords The intellectual, the eloquent man, a technocrat, a position changer "Being Air in Air, the Prince of Swords is the pure manifestation of mind and intellect, full of plans and ideas which on the worst side may disturb and confuse each other, on the best create an inexhaustible spring of creative thoughts." Creativity, 'richdom' of ideas, intelligence, mastery of words This card being here seems very fitting. Barack Obama often appears very intelligent and well-spoken. This is a HELL of a lot better than having DEBAUCHERY (aka: flat-out corruption) like Mitt Romney did.. lol 2.) 2 of Wands (Dominion) [reversed] Eagerness to fight, courageous, risk-taker, willpower, "recognizing destructive processes as a precondition for creation" The fact that this is reversed could make it a bit malleable, or, it could hint that it is one of the more important qualities to focus on for combating the next card, the "obstacle." 3.) 7 of Swords (Futility) Unexpected obstacles, murky business deals, obstructionism, failing in business deals Obviously a card that hints at an obstacle, simply by its nature. Seems very fitting to me, but not a game-changer. Nothing is set in stone in these readings. 4.) 2 of Cups (Love) This is a great card, shows a deep caring. The card basically speaks for itself. Love, good work climate, cooperation, trusting teamwork I'm skipping again to position #6 now to contrast these two since they are connected. The same is for positions 5-7 going across. 6.) 3 of Cups (Abundance) This is another great card connecting to #4 (Love). An abundance of love? Hey, I call it like I see it! The cards haven't lied to me yet. 5.) Prince of Cups This card can sometimes mean manipulation, or at least potential passivity, but in this position it seems different to me. This is in a more active position, and not in a position of reflection (like in Mitt Romney's spread.) Tender, romantic man, charmer, warm personality, successful connection between intuition and knowledge, enthusiasm This card is moving across into position #7, next. 7.) The Sun (XIX) [reversed] A great card here, and it reinforces my interpretation of the Prince, since these are connected. Here are some keywords, but The Sun usually speaks for itself, since it is such a great card. Happiness, success, culminating point, overcoming difficulties, promising plans for the future, good teamwork, new beginning 8.) Art (XIV) This represents Obama himself in this matter. This is a great card with many meanings. Balance of powers / balance of opposites, resolving conflicts, harmony, creativity, finding the right proportions, overcoming contradictions, "the good mix" 9.) 9 of Wands (Strength) Another good card, this is how others see him right now. The card speaks for itself again. Strength, drawing on abundance, inspiration, beginning a plan with courage and commitment, reaching a new and promising level 10.) Princess of Disks This position is the standard Celtic Cross position that represents hopes and fears, and this card kind of threw me a little bit (it sometimes does.) She is Earth in Earth, so she is stability and creativity. A good card, and one reason I think this card fits here, is because it is a "zero" card, meaning it may be one of the few that fits the particular quality here, but doesn't change the sum of the cards. Naturalness, stability, building something, "fertility" (symbolic?), creativity, lucrative prospects 11.) 8 of Cups (Indolence) [reversed] This is one of the only "bad" cards in here, but I read it more as a warning or hint to focus on and draw from the other cards. I don't see it as being a "lazy" card here (sometimes it is). It is reversed here, so I feel that it is again simply a hint or warning; possibly to look closer at the other reversed cards, Dominion, and The Sun. "Recognizing one's own errors that have led to disappointment." Necessity of change, "endangered job", mismanagement I drew a 12th card to clarify the matter again. The result was **The Tower** (XVI). The Tower is a major card of transformation (like the Death card) but symbolic for the breaking down, or symbolic destruction of old, useless patterns so that something new can be created in it's place. This card goes well with some of the other cards in the spread, such as Art. Sudden perception, breakthrough, exploding old concepts that have been restrictive, cleansing storm Adding up the value of all of the cards, the Quintessence, resulted in: **64** This reduces to 10, as 6+4=10, and further to 1, as 1+0=1. This represents both Fortune (X) and The Magus (I) Consulting what is written in a book (Keywords for the Crowley Tarot) about this for the quintessence has the following: "Recognize a portion of your task in life in the theme of the question. The time has come to dedicate yourself to the matter (Fortune). You now have the strength and the skill to master the related tasks (The Magus)." I thought this was a pretty good spread. Again, some obvious warnings, and most of them seem to be about external influences getting in the way. I have a hard time seeing much negative in these cards, because they fit together so well. (For the record, I was ABSOLUTELY not going to vote for Barack Obama; I was a big time Ron Paul supporter, but this reading has me thinking now.. I may edit this post with a bit more interpretation, but I'd like to get what I have written out there, and edit it later..) Next up, either Netanyahu or Ahmadinejad! (These are done, but not typed up. Netanyahu's final cards were "Illusions", Dominion, Cruelty, and Power...) I'll add formatting in a bit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18225135 United States 10/20/2012 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- So does your damn cards say anything about welfare up 36% in 4 years. Or highest amount of government spending in the last 4 years in contrast to all the administrations in history. What about O's communistic and anti-colonialist approach to government. Tarot is bullshit, folks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13148732 United States 10/20/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- Looks like Obama has been manipulated by others, most likely. All politicians usually are these days, I'd imagine. Maybe you have to play ball for a while until you are in a position to finally change the game? (If you think its bullshit, then give me your most common name, a daily nickname is fine, and maybe a date of birth. And prepare to tell me it's shit when you see your secrets come out. Of course, you won't, and you will just continue to say it's shit without backing it up. What are you afraid of? Yourself?) ;) People can lie, and keep secrets, but you can't lie and keep secrets from the Universe.. Anyway, I did Ahmedinejad and Netanyahu last night, and just did one on the Pope. I'll list the cards for the Pope right now, but interpretations on these have to wait until I have time to do a writeup (I'm going out of town for today.) Pope Benedict XVI Card positions are the same, I'm just listing these exactly like the others: 1.) 2 of Wands (Dominion) 2.) 5 of Disks (Worry) 3.) 10 of Cups (Satiety) 4.) The Emperor (IV) [reversed] 7.) Prince of Wands [reversed] 5.) 6 of Swords (Science) [reversed] 6.) The Tower (XVI) [reversed] 8.) The Hermit (IX) 9.) Knight of Swords [reversed] 10.) Prince of Disks 11.) Lust (XI) Extra clarifier: 5 of Swords (Defeat) [reversed] This was not a very good spread, I can explain later. This guy looks relatively dangerous and very controlling, as well as likely not very honest, and not thinking things through with regards to potential damages. Everything is upside down. Very science-minded and looking for change there, but 4, 7, and 11 aren't looking too hot here. The sum of the cards is 63, which is 9: The Hermit (IX) This is the same overall message as the one for Romney. "Retreat within yourself to find out what you really want. Don't let yourself be influenced." |
Deanler User ID: 1477491 Canada 10/20/2012 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- For what its worth, I believe you have a very accurate picture of these two - Although Mitt seems very polished, there is something about him that doesn't ring true, and I just get the feeling he is not the right choice. I don't "believe" him... I am not an American, but I also was/am a Ron Paul supporter from the sidelines - here in Alberta, back in the day, we had a premier who made a lot of "unpopular" decisions, but he took our province out of debt, and created wealth for the people in the end. If I were faced with these two, honestly, I would say that Barak is the better option, notwithstanding all the controversy over his origins. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13148732 United States 10/20/2012 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- I despised Obama the past few years and was a MAJOR Ron Paul supporter myself. Seems like there are a LOT of people / influences manipulating these people, or trying to. So who is MORE manipulatable? Is it obvious? Good guys face adversity too. Nobody is totally bulletproof, and when you are in front of a firing squad, you might be fucked. The cards have yet to lie to me, but people most certainly do. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11157340 United States 10/20/2012 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- I'm putting these down so that I can fill in the details when I'm not out on the road and on this damn phone.. Performed ~10:35pm, 10/19/2012: MAHMOUD AHMEDINEJAD 1.) Queen of Wands 2.) Fortune (X) [reversed] 3.) 7 of Swords (Futility) 4.) The Fool (0) 6.) Ace of Disks 5.) The Tower (XVI) 7.) 6 of Wands (Victory) [reversed] 8.) Lust (XI) 9.) 3 of Wands (Virtue) [reversed] 10.) 9 of Disks (Gain) 11.) 6 of Cups (Pleasure) [reversed] Clarifier: Queen of Disks [reversed] Quintessence: 69 reducing to 15 and 6. "Perceive your concealed motivations. Bring light into the darkness. Free yourself from dependencies so that you can take the path of the hearts free decision." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11159627 United States 10/20/2012 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- BENJAMIN NETANYAHU Performed ~11:00pm, 10/19/2012. 1.) 3 of Disks (Works) 2.) Princess of Cups 3.) The Moon (XVIII) 4.) 3 of Wands (Virtue) [reversed] 6.) 7 of Disks (Failure) [reversed] 5.) Queen of Disks 7.) Knight of Disks 8.) The Magus (I) [reversed] 9.) 2 of Wands (Dominion) [reversed] 10.) 9 of Swords (Cruelty) 11.) 4 of Disks (Power) Clarifier: 4 of Swords (Truce) [reversed] Quintessence: 47 reducing to 11. This is the Lust (XI) card... (Lust for money and material power and control? Truce with Palestine necessary? I see ego problems with Virtue moving to Failure, both reversed.) "Show your desire and approach this topic with passion (Lust), completely trusting that your inner voice (The Priestess) will guide you in the decisive moment." More on all this later, but Cruelty for hopes & fears, and Power (a very material card) may speak for themselves. Queen moving to the Knight, material Earthy cards may back up the Power card, or could also represent a older man and woman in position of power that is important.. Or both. I'll be back to fill all of this in with more detail from my notes. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 16453458 United States 10/24/2012 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- Sure! Will do. I almost forgot about him. I slightly tweaked/bent one of my cards by accident so I need to get a fresh deck soon... :( But I can get some info on him. :) Last night, I did the 9/11 attacks and also GWB... It's on my Tarot thread for other people's readings: 9/11 Attacks (negative aspect?): Thread: Tarot Readings... (Currently closed..) (Page 6) 9/11 Attacks (positive aspect?): Thread: Tarot Readings... (Currently closed..) (Page 6) The reason I have negative and positive, is that I found out that I seem to get double messages when dealing from different sides of the deck after shuffling really good. Adds a little different dimension, or polarity to the "event" in question. GWB had two polarities, but they weren't all good. One side added up to 13 (Death), and the other was 16 (The Tower). Go figure. ;) When I was doing the GWB stuff, Rachael Maddow started talking about him on TV in the other room, and about disasters and genocide. It was so fitting. lol The Tower readings had the aspects of the tower, destruction, sacrifice, defeat -> death, emperor (ruling), wealth, and sorrow. The other side had new beginnings, change, love, fertility, etc. It was very interesting. But not much new there, huh? What other kinds of things do we want to know and find out, that might be covered in lies and deception? The truth is out there, just have to ask and receive it. Sometimes the truth is painful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1243271 United States 02/19/2013 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- Quoting: AkashicRecord Thread: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- It doesn't work like that. It is NOT fortune-telling, anyone who says that is a charlatan and a liar. Remember that we all have "Free Will" and can always make choices; only some people don't make good ones.. Looks like Obama has been manipulated by others, most likely. All politicians usually are these days, I'd imagine. Maybe you have to play ball for a while until you are in a position to finally change the game? (If you think its bullshit, then give me your most common name, a daily nickname is fine, and maybe a date of birth. And prepare to tell me it's shit when you see your secrets come out. Of course, you won't, and you will just continue to say it's shit without backing it up. What are you afraid of? Yourself?) ;) People can lie, and keep secrets, but you can't lie and keep secrets from the Universe.. Anyway, I did Ahmedinejad and Netanyahu last night, and just did one on the Pope. I'll list the cards for the Pope right now, but interpretations on these have to wait until I have time to do a writeup (I'm going out of town for today.) Pope Benedict XVI Card positions are the same, I'm just listing these exactly like the others: 1.) 2 of Wands (Dominion) 2.) 5 of Disks (Worry) 3.) 10 of Cups (Satiety) 4.) The Emperor (IV) [reversed] 7.) Prince of Wands [reversed] 5.) 6 of Swords (Science) [reversed] 6.) The Tower (XVI) [reversed] 8.) The Hermit (IX) 9.) Knight of Swords [reversed] 10.) Prince of Disks 11.) Lust (XI) Extra clarifier: 5 of Swords (Defeat) [reversed] This was not a very good spread, I can explain later. This guy looks relatively dangerous and very controlling, as well as likely not very honest, and not thinking things through with regards to potential damages. Everything is upside down. Very science-minded and looking for change there, but 4, 7, and 11 aren't looking too hot here. The sum of the cards is 63, which is 9: The Hermit (IX) This is the same overall message as the one for Romney. "Retreat within yourself to find out what you really want. Don't let yourself be influenced." bingo, the vatican stuck by lightening.. hence, Lightening Struck Tower... |
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User ID: 1243271 United States 02/19/2013 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- I hope the OP returns to this thread . We NEED more insight Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
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User ID: 1243271 United States 02/20/2013 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- bump for more insight Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 16453458 United States 03/13/2013 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- It was brought (back) to my attention recently to look at what I had pulled for the Pope a few months ago. At the time, I was not really focusing on the Vatican (more on the election and silly politics), so I kind of just shelved this reading and didn't really look into it too much. Then, there was an actual lightning strike, and the resignation, something which, as far as I know, hasn't happened too frequently. I am at a very interesting point now after these past few weeks, so I may return to this and see what comes up... I wanted to say that the Tower card in its position when I pulled these cards was referring to something in the physical or material world, that is what I attribute those two horizontal cards to with this modified spread. So tje Tower is most certainly change and transformation, but different than Death (XIII), as that is more like rebirth and resurrection, or rather, change that cannot be avoided (as all living things die), whereas the Tower (XVI) is more or less a "death" or change that is violent, or unwelcome (the latter in this case, though that bird getting attacked was kind of "funny.") |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 16453458 United States 03/13/2013 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done- Furthermore, the Lust (XI) card is the final position as a "result" was kind of "funny" because of all the sex-related allegations that came up after the resignation. This was all over the comedy shows (Daily Show, Colbert Report) that I watch. Pretty much the only things I watch on trash-TV anymore... I don't even need to mention anything about DEFEAT... and the TOWER has kind of expressed itself in more than one way, literally. |
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