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Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done-

 
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Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done-
I decided to do a Tarot reading around 12:30pm today, 10/19/2012, using a modified version of the Celtic Cross using 11 cards for one of our favorite running politicians!:

Willard Mitt Romney

People used to the traditional spread will have to take into account these modified positions that I use which work best for me (it hasn't failed me yet.)
I shuffled the deck at least 11 times (approximately) using near casino-style shuffling, 3 cuts, with some rotations of the cut packs, etc. But enough about that.
I never choose a Significator anymore, but let the deck do it.


So without further ado, here are the cards:
(This is using the tHOTH Tarot deck.)
Powerful stuff.


1.) 7 of Cups (Debauch)
This one is great. I knew the reading was going to be interesting after seeing just this card. This is basically a card representing corruption. How fitting! Go look up the word if you want (addiction to sensual pleasures, etc.) You know, something you would want your President to embrace!

debauch
verb [ trans. ]
destroy or debase the moral purity of; corrupt.
noun
a bout of excessive indulgence in sensual pleasures, esp. eating and drinking.



2.) Prince of Wands [reversed]
I don't use reversed cards in the way that others usually might, meaning I don't reverse the actual meaning of the card. Sometimes it hints to me that these qualities may be some that are more flexible or necessary for change, etc. Here are a few good quotes on this card.

"..lacking the patience of the earth, the Prince of Wands wants it all and he wants it now.."
"..he can be a juggler and trickster, wanton and frolic, recklessly abusing the powers of his mind to fool and ridicule the slow and harmless.."
"..all his attributes can exaggerate to their worst, resulting in reckless destruction and even in cruelty and sadism. His impatience can mount into instability, always seeking for novelty without getting anything done, with all his powers burning out unused.."

Debauchery, trickery, and potentially reckless destruction. Yay!


3.) Adjustment (VIII)
This is the crossing card of the matter. Looks like he needs a little "adjustment" in some areas. Not really surprised!


4.) 4 of Wands (Completion) [reversed]
For this position (which is right underneath the other 3 (I deal cards 4, 5, 6, and 7 clockwise around the first 3 cards) and this represents a more subconscious / mental issue. Completion of the election cycle no doubt. This card moves up toward card 6 to form a line representing mental influence, basically subconscious to conscious. I will list card number SIX next, so you can see the link here.


6.) 5 of Disks (Worry)
Worry about the election? I don't think I need to add anymore to this. It seemed pretty obvious.


5.) The Aeon (XX)
This card was formerly Judgement (with Rider-Waite). This line going across from cards 5 to 7 represent a more physical and "doing" aspect. Not so much in the mind, but more active and physical. This card represents new things, change, hope, transformation, etc. There are a lot of meanings. Very fitting for an election.


7.) 10 of Cups (Satiety) [reversed]
This card speaks for itself, it represents completion and satisfaction, but more on an emotional level. It is reversed so maybe it is not definite? I would take this reversal to mean that satiety is not necessarily guaranteed, especially if other aspects are ignored.


8.) 7 of Wands (Valour)
This position represents how he sees himself. this is a fire card and kind of speaks of the ego a bit. It means that there is threat, or endangered position. I think this goes very well with Satiety being reversed. this card also means hard assignment, difficulties, and taking a risk, among other things.


9.) Prince of Cups
This card position represents how others see him. This prince is very Watery, which is passive. He can be open to influence, and easily changed. Not always bad, but for person in his position (and in this spread) it could be dangerous. He flip-flops a lot in the media (this is obvious) and this is almost the perfect card to represent that here, I think. This card can also represent hiding of secrets in some cases.

Some quotes (not by me):

"..he appears introverted and reversed, and indeed he tends to keep his secrets to himself.."
"..he seems to be easily susceptible.."
"..he can be quite shifty in dealings.."


10.) 10 of Disks (Wealth)
This position is the standard Celtic Cross position that represents hopes and fears. It says his hopes are more wealth. So fitting. I think this one speaks for itself.


11.) Ace of Cups
This represents the whole of the Water cards. Emotional fulfillment, etc. It is a great card. But again, it does not guarantee success (no spread does), especially if the message(s) in the rest of the cards is completely ignored. Look at the reversed cards, and the Trumps, such as Adjustment (VIII). Without adjustment, this card may not come to pass..


I drew an extra 12th card to clarify the matter a little bit more. The result was the 2 of Disks (Change). I think this emphasized the importance of the crossing card, Adjustment (VIII), if anything.

Adding up the value of all of the cards, the Quintessence, resulted in: 72

This reduces to 9, as 7+2=9. This represents The Hermit (IX) as as addition to this spread. Consulting what is written in a book (Keywords for the Crowley Tarot) about this value for the quintessence has the following:


"Retreat within yourself to find out what you really want. Don't let yourself be influenced."


Pretty interesting stuff, especially Debauch, Prince of Wands, Worry, and Wealth.

I thought this was a very fitting spread. It isn't bad (none of them really ever are), but there are some obvious warnings, or things to consider.

Any comments?
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Up next, Barack Obama. :)

Should be able to do this one after dinner.
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Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done-
This is the second in a set of readings for politicians and world leaders. This reading was done in the same style as the reading for Mitt Romney, though this time it is for Barack Obama, and performed at 7:15pm, 10/19/2012.

Barack Hussein Obama II

The same modified Celtic Cross is used, the details of which are in the other thread. I won't explain it much here, just know that positions 4-7 are different, and 11 cards are used.

Here are the cards:

1.) Prince of Swords

The intellectual, the eloquent man, a technocrat, a position changer

"Being Air in Air, the Prince of Swords is the pure manifestation of mind and intellect, full of plans and ideas which on the worst side may disturb and confuse each other, on the best create an inexhaustible spring of creative thoughts."

Creativity, 'richdom' of ideas, intelligence, mastery of words

This card being here seems very fitting. Barack Obama often appears very intelligent and well-spoken. This is a HELL of a lot better than having DEBAUCHERY (aka: flat-out corruption) like Mitt Romney did.. lol

2.) 2 of Wands (Dominion) [reversed]

Eagerness to fight, courageous, risk-taker, willpower, "recognizing destructive processes as a precondition for creation"

The fact that this is reversed could make it a bit malleable, or, it could hint that it is one of the more important qualities to focus on for combating the next card, the "obstacle."

3.) 7 of Swords (Futility)

Unexpected obstacles, murky business deals, obstructionism, failing in business deals

Obviously a card that hints at an obstacle, simply by its nature. Seems very fitting to me, but not a game-changer. Nothing is set in stone in these readings.

4.) 2 of Cups (Love)

This is a great card, shows a deep caring. The card basically speaks for itself.

Love, good work climate, cooperation, trusting teamwork

I'm skipping again to position #6 now to contrast these two since they are connected. The same is for positions 5-7 going across.

6.) 3 of Cups (Abundance)

This is another great card connecting to #4 (Love). An abundance of love? Hey, I call it like I see it! The cards haven't lied to me yet.

5.) Prince of Cups

This card can sometimes mean manipulation, or at least potential passivity, but in this position it seems different to me. This is in a more active position, and not in a position of reflection (like in Mitt Romney's spread.)

Tender, romantic man, charmer, warm personality, successful connection between intuition and knowledge, enthusiasm

This card is moving across into position #7, next.

7.) The Sun (XIX) [reversed]

A great card here, and it reinforces my interpretation of the Prince, since these are connected. Here are some keywords, but The Sun usually speaks for itself, since it is such a great card.

Happiness, success, culminating point, overcoming difficulties, promising plans for the future, good teamwork, new beginning

8.) Art (XIV)

This represents Obama himself in this matter. This is a great card with many meanings.

Balance of powers / balance of opposites, resolving conflicts, harmony, creativity, finding the right proportions, overcoming contradictions, "the good mix"

9.) 9 of Wands (Strength)

Another good card, this is how others see him right now. The card speaks for itself again.

Strength, drawing on abundance, inspiration, beginning a plan with courage and commitment, reaching a new and promising level

10.) Princess of Disks

This position is the standard Celtic Cross position that represents hopes and fears, and this card kind of threw me a little bit (it sometimes does.)

She is Earth in Earth, so she is stability and creativity. A good card, and one reason I think this card fits here, is because it is a "zero" card, meaning it may be one of the few that fits the particular quality here, but doesn't change the sum of the cards.

Naturalness, stability, building something, "fertility" (symbolic?), creativity, lucrative prospects

11.) 8 of Cups (Indolence) [reversed]

This is one of the only "bad" cards in here, but I read it more as a warning or hint to focus on and draw from the other cards. I don't see it as being a "lazy" card here (sometimes it is).

It is reversed here, so I feel that it is again simply a hint or warning; possibly to look closer at the other reversed cards, Dominion, and The Sun.

"Recognizing one's own errors that have led to disappointment."

Necessity of change, "endangered job", mismanagement

I drew a 12th card to clarify the matter again. The result was **The Tower** (XVI).

The Tower is a major card of transformation (like the Death card) but symbolic for the breaking down, or symbolic destruction of old, useless patterns so that something new can be created in it's place. This card goes well with some of the other cards in the spread, such as Art.

Sudden perception, breakthrough, exploding old concepts that have been restrictive, cleansing storm

Adding up the value of all of the cards, the Quintessence, resulted in: **64**

This reduces to 10, as 6+4=10, and further to 1, as 1+0=1. This represents both Fortune (X) and The Magus (I) Consulting what is written in a book (Keywords for the Crowley Tarot) about this for the quintessence has the following:

"Recognize a portion of your task in life in the theme of the question. The time has come to dedicate yourself to the matter (Fortune). You now have the strength and the skill to master the related tasks (The Magus)."

I thought this was a pretty good spread. Again, some obvious warnings, and most of them seem to be about external influences getting in the way.

I have a hard time seeing much negative in these cards, because they fit together so well.

(For the record, I was ABSOLUTELY not going to vote for Barack Obama; I was a big time Ron Paul supporter, but this reading has me thinking now.. I may edit this post with a bit more interpretation, but I'd like to get what I have written out there, and edit it later..)

Next up, either Netanyahu or Ahmadinejad!
(These are done, but not typed up. Netanyahu's final cards were "Illusions", Dominion, Cruelty, and Power...)

I'll add formatting in a bit.
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So who wins the election?
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So does your damn cards say anything about welfare up 36% in 4 years. Or highest amount of government spending in the last 4 years in contrast to all the administrations in history. What about O's communistic and anti-colonialist approach to government. Tarot is bullshit, folks.
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It doesn't work like that. It is NOT fortune-telling, anyone who says that is a charlatan and a liar. Remember that we all have "Free Will" and can always make choices; only some people don't make good ones..

Looks like Obama has been manipulated by others, most likely. All politicians usually are these days, I'd imagine. Maybe you have to play ball for a while until you are in a position to finally change the game?

(If you think its bullshit, then give me your most common name, a daily nickname is fine, and maybe a date of birth. And prepare to tell me it's shit when you see your secrets come out. Of course, you won't, and you will just continue to say it's shit without backing it up. What are you afraid of? Yourself?) ;)

People can lie, and keep secrets, but you can't lie and keep secrets from the Universe..

Anyway, I did Ahmedinejad and Netanyahu last night, and just did one on the Pope. I'll list the cards for the Pope right now, but interpretations on these have to wait until I have time to do a writeup (I'm going out of town for today.)

Pope Benedict XVI

Card positions are the same, I'm just listing these exactly like the others:

1.) 2 of Wands (Dominion)
2.) 5 of Disks (Worry)
3.) 10 of Cups (Satiety)

4.) The Emperor (IV) [reversed]
7.) Prince of Wands [reversed]

5.) 6 of Swords (Science) [reversed]
6.) The Tower (XVI) [reversed]

8.) The Hermit (IX)
9.) Knight of Swords [reversed]
10.) Prince of Disks
11.) Lust (XI)

Extra clarifier: 5 of Swords (Defeat) [reversed]

This was not a very good spread, I can explain later. This guy looks relatively dangerous and very controlling, as well as likely not very honest, and not thinking things through with regards to potential damages. Everything is upside down. Very science-minded and looking for change there, but 4, 7, and 11 aren't looking too hot here.

The sum of the cards is 63, which is 9: The Hermit (IX)

This is the same overall message as the one for Romney.

"Retreat within yourself to find out what you really want. Don't let yourself be influenced."
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For what its worth, I believe you have a very accurate picture of these two - Although Mitt seems very polished, there is something about him that doesn't ring true, and I just get the feeling he is not the right choice. I don't "believe" him... I am not an American, but I also was/am a Ron Paul supporter from the sidelines - here in Alberta, back in the day, we had a premier who made a lot of "unpopular" decisions, but he took our province out of debt, and created wealth for the people in the end. If I were faced with these two, honestly, I would say that Barak is the better option, notwithstanding all the controversy over his origins.
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I despised Obama the past few years and was a MAJOR Ron Paul supporter myself.

Seems like there are a LOT of people / influences manipulating these people, or trying to. So who is MORE manipulatable? Is it obvious?

Good guys face adversity too. Nobody is totally bulletproof, and when you are in front of a firing squad, you might be fucked.

The cards have yet to lie to me, but people most certainly do.
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I'll be back on Sunday with more information and interpretations on Netanyahu (his was not good), Ahmedinejad (not too shabby), and the Pope (relatively awful)...
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you got to be lefty, you pushing smoke.
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you got to be lefty, you pushing smoke.
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Does a circle have two sides?
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I'm putting these down so that I can fill in the details when I'm not out on the road and on this damn phone..

Performed ~10:35pm, 10/19/2012:

MAHMOUD AHMEDINEJAD

1.) Queen of Wands
2.) Fortune (X) [reversed]
3.) 7 of Swords (Futility)

4.) The Fool (0)
6.) Ace of Disks

5.) The Tower (XVI)
7.) 6 of Wands (Victory) [reversed]

8.) Lust (XI)
9.) 3 of Wands (Virtue) [reversed]
10.) 9 of Disks (Gain)
11.) 6 of Cups (Pleasure) [reversed]

Clarifier: Queen of Disks [reversed]

Quintessence: 69 reducing to 15 and 6.

"Perceive your concealed motivations. Bring light into the darkness. Free yourself from dependencies so that you can take the path of the hearts free decision."
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BENJAMIN NETANYAHU

Performed ~11:00pm, 10/19/2012.

1.) 3 of Disks (Works)
2.) Princess of Cups
3.) The Moon (XVIII)

4.) 3 of Wands (Virtue) [reversed]
6.) 7 of Disks (Failure) [reversed]

5.) Queen of Disks
7.) Knight of Disks

8.) The Magus (I) [reversed]
9.) 2 of Wands (Dominion) [reversed]
10.) 9 of Swords (Cruelty)
11.) 4 of Disks (Power)

Clarifier: 4 of Swords (Truce) [reversed]

Quintessence: 47 reducing to 11.

This is the Lust (XI) card...

(Lust for money and material power and control? Truce with Palestine necessary? I see ego problems with Virtue moving to Failure, both reversed.)

"Show your desire and approach this topic with passion (Lust), completely trusting that your inner voice (The Priestess) will guide you in the decisive moment."

More on all this later, but Cruelty for hopes & fears, and Power (a very material card) may speak for themselves. Queen moving to the Knight, material Earthy cards may back up the Power card, or could also represent a older man and woman in position of power that is important.. Or both.

I'll be back to fill all of this in with more detail from my notes.
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...Tarot is bullshit, folks.
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You can tell yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

A challenger appeared! (And ran away scared...)
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Big words! Oh wait, it was just an image..
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Big words! Oh wait, it was just an image..
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Yeah, Obama is a destroyer........................of our traditional way of life in favor of socialism and second-ratedness worlwide.
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Big words! Oh wait, it was just an image..
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Yeah, Obama is a destroyer........................of our traditional way of life in favor of socialism and second-ratedness worlwide.
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So do you love the Federal Reserve? (Serious question.)
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Thank you for this!
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Nice thread.. Is there anything more you can say about the spread you did on the Pope?
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How about doing a spread on Ron Paul then? ;) Thanks OP! hf
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How about doing a spread on Ron Paul then? ;) Thanks OP! hf
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Sure! Will do. I almost forgot about him.

I slightly tweaked/bent one of my cards by accident so I need to get a fresh deck soon... :(

But I can get some info on him. :)


Last night, I did the 9/11 attacks and also GWB... It's on my Tarot thread for other people's readings:

9/11 Attacks (negative aspect?):
Thread: Tarot Readings... (Currently closed..) (Page 6)

9/11 Attacks (positive aspect?):
Thread: Tarot Readings... (Currently closed..) (Page 6)

The reason I have negative and positive, is that I found out that I seem to get double messages when dealing from different sides of the deck after shuffling really good. Adds a little different dimension, or polarity to the "event" in question.

GWB had two polarities, but they weren't all good. One side added up to 13 (Death), and the other was 16 (The Tower). Go figure. ;)

When I was doing the GWB stuff, Rachael Maddow started talking about him on TV in the other room, and about disasters and genocide. It was so fitting. lol

The Tower readings had the aspects of the tower, destruction, sacrifice, defeat -> death, emperor (ruling), wealth, and sorrow. The other side had new beginnings, change, love, fertility, etc.

It was very interesting.


But not much new there, huh?


What other kinds of things do we want to know and find out, that might be covered in lies and deception? The truth is out there, just have to ask and receive it. Sometimes the truth is painful.
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It doesn't work like that. It is NOT fortune-telling, anyone who says that is a charlatan and a liar. Remember that we all have "Free Will" and can always make choices; only some people don't make good ones..

Looks like Obama has been manipulated by others, most likely. All politicians usually are these days, I'd imagine. Maybe you have to play ball for a while until you are in a position to finally change the game?

(If you think its bullshit, then give me your most common name, a daily nickname is fine, and maybe a date of birth. And prepare to tell me it's shit when you see your secrets come out. Of course, you won't, and you will just continue to say it's shit without backing it up. What are you afraid of? Yourself?) ;)

People can lie, and keep secrets, but you can't lie and keep secrets from the Universe..

Anyway, I did Ahmedinejad and Netanyahu last night, and just did one on the Pope. I'll list the cards for the Pope right now, but interpretations on these have to wait until I have time to do a writeup (I'm going out of town for today.)

Pope Benedict XVI

Card positions are the same, I'm just listing these exactly like the others:

1.) 2 of Wands (Dominion)
2.) 5 of Disks (Worry)
3.) 10 of Cups (Satiety)

4.) The Emperor (IV) [reversed]
7.) Prince of Wands [reversed]

5.) 6 of Swords (Science) [reversed]
6.) The Tower (XVI) [reversed]

8.) The Hermit (IX)
9.) Knight of Swords [reversed]
10.) Prince of Disks
11.) Lust (XI)

Extra clarifier: 5 of Swords (Defeat) [reversed]

This was not a very good spread, I can explain later. This guy looks relatively dangerous and very controlling, as well as likely not very honest, and not thinking things through with regards to potential damages. Everything is upside down. Very science-minded and looking for change there, but 4, 7, and 11 aren't looking too hot here.

The sum of the cards is 63, which is 9: The Hermit (IX)

This is the same overall message as the one for Romney.

"Retreat within yourself to find out what you really want. Don't let yourself be influenced."
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bingo, the vatican stuck by lightening.. hence, Lightening Struck Tower...
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Nice thread.. Is there anything more you can say about the spread you did on the Pope?
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Lightening Struck Tower, and retreating into himself just as the OP said
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lay one out for the next pope
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Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done-
lay one out for the next pope
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I hope the OP returns to this thread . We NEED more insight
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in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

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lay one out for the next pope
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I hope the OP returns to this thread . We NEED more insight
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bump for more insight
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

"If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine

The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short!

A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2


For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible

"A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller

Checkd, Keked, and Rekt!

#Kids2
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Re: Tarot Readings for Politicians & World Leaders: Romney, Obama -done- & Pope Benedict XVI, Ahmedinejad, & Netanyahu -partly done-
It was brought (back) to my attention recently to look at what I had pulled for the Pope a few months ago. At the time, I was not really focusing on the Vatican (more on the election and silly politics), so I kind of just shelved this reading and didn't really look into it too much.

Then, there was an actual lightning strike, and the resignation, something which, as far as I know, hasn't happened too frequently.

I am at a very interesting point now after these past few weeks, so I may return to this and see what comes up...


I wanted to say that the Tower card in its position when I pulled these cards was referring to something in the physical or material world, that is what I attribute those two horizontal cards to with this modified spread.

So tje Tower is most certainly change and transformation, but different than Death (XIII), as that is more like rebirth and resurrection, or rather, change that cannot be avoided (as all living things die), whereas the Tower (XVI) is more or less a "death" or change that is violent, or unwelcome (the latter in this case, though that bird getting attacked was kind of "funny.")
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Furthermore, the Lust (XI) card is the final position as a "result" was kind of "funny" because of all the sex-related allegations that came up after the resignation. This was all over the comedy shows (Daily Show, Colbert Report) that I watch. Pretty much the only things I watch on trash-TV anymore...

I don't even need to mention anything about DEFEAT... and the TOWER has kind of expressed itself in more than one way, literally.
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Edit: (Lost my notes on what I was going to post here.)





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