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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24443755 Canada 09/26/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ..... Thought is difficult and painful. The difficulties and pain are due to confusion. From time to time, with enormous intellectual effect, someone creates a little order - a small spot of light in the dark sea of confusion. At first we are all dazzled by the light because we are used to living in the darkness. But when we regain our senses and examine the light we find it comes from a farthing candle - the candle of common sense. To change the metaphor, the sages chase their own tails through the ages. A little child says 'Gentlemen, you are chasing your own tails.' The sages gradually lose their angular momentum, and, glancing over their shoulders, see what they are pursuing. But most of them cannot believe what they see, and the tail chasing does not die out until a generation has passed..... Quoting: Swinging on Spirals - S.y.n.g.e _____________________________ “Why is it that experts can sometimes be so entirely wrong, and yet so emphatic in their convictions? My own belief is that some of the reason lies in the success of "principles of impotence," particularly in modern physics. Somehow it seems part of the scientific approach to postulate impotence.” —R V Jones, The Scientific Intelligencer _____________________________ We are not hopelessly isolated in time and space on a tiny rock, orbiting an insignificant star in an insignificant galaxy. We are hopefully connected with the power and intelligence of the universe. - [link to www.holoscience.com] _____________________________ "We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one new delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first. …Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one." -– Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, 1852 We need to be rebels more often. |
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(OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/26/2012 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I agree, Inch! These quotes have definitely inspired me to think differently than most do. I came across them a couple years ago, and they hit the mark. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
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(OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/26/2012 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for us to evolve we need rebels.....but if the herd dosn't see the light little is gained. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5127800 and earth's herds are not seeing the lights at all. it is very saddening. But individuals are. One by One. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24358110 United States 09/26/2012 10:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for us to evolve we need rebels.....but if the herd dosn't see the light little is gained. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5127800 and earth's herds are not seeing the lights at all. it is very saddening. But individuals are. One by One. Not enough, this is but star seed awakening, not members within herds. this place is in big doo doo. |
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(OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/26/2012 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for us to evolve we need rebels.....but if the herd dosn't see the light little is gained. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5127800 and earth's herds are not seeing the lights at all. it is very saddening. But individuals are. One by One. Not enough, this is but star seed awakening, not members within herds. this place is in big doo doo. It does seem that way. Hopefully, somehow we can right this leaning ship. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24443755 Canada 09/26/2012 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for us to evolve we need rebels.....but if the herd dosn't see the light little is gained. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5127800 and earth's herds are not seeing the lights at all. it is very saddening. But individuals are. One by One. Not enough, this is but star seed awakening, not members within herds. this place is in big doo doo. We're all in it together. one at a time. No one is exempt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24358110 United States 09/26/2012 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24358110 and earth's herds are not seeing the lights at all. it is very saddening. But individuals are. One by One. Not enough, this is but star seed awakening, not members within herds. this place is in big doo doo. We're all in it together. one at a time. No one is exempt. It is too late. The 3Days of Darkness must come. one at a time and the world will finish being destroyed, there is no time left. face the facts. even the star seeds have not awakened as planned. It was planned for 20% of them to remember who they are less than 1% of them have. way less |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24443755 Canada 09/26/2012 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not enough, this is but star seed awakening, not members within herds. this place is in big doo doo. We're all in it together. one at a time. No one is exempt. It is too late. The 3Days of Darkness must come. one at a time and the world will finish being destroyed, there is no time left. face the facts. even the star seeds have not awakened as planned. It was planned for 20% of them to remember who they are less than 1% of them have. way less And how do you know all of this? Hard facts please. |
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(OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/26/2012 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24443755 Canada 09/26/2012 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24358110 Not enough, this is but star seed awakening, not members within herds. this place is in big doo doo. We're all in it together. one at a time. No one is exempt. It is too late. The 3Days of Darkness must come. one at a time and the world will finish being destroyed, there is no time left. face the facts. even the star seeds have not awakened as planned. It was planned for 20% of them to remember who they are less than 1% of them have. way less And how do you know all of this? Hard facts please. No real answers. I give up. |
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(OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/26/2012 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I discussed something with OYE the other day, and he said something that rang true. Our leaders have lost their integrity. If integrity could be restored, so many problems we are facing would be fixed. Thinking on how powerful integrity is to the collective, it saddens me, frustrates me, that such an incredible trait is absent from the ones attempting to lead us. Dion also said something concerning these quotes: Exactly, We Exchange the classic lines and qualities of constructive being for the ephemeral attributes of the fad and it's inherent fall. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The ride up on the roller coaster is never as much fun as the precipitous plummet. This culture builds heroes not to mimic them but for the ecstasy of watching them come apart. Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 09/26/2012 11:20 AM "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24443755 Canada 09/26/2012 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I discussed something with OYE the other day, and he said something that rang true. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Our leaders have lost their integrity. If integrity could be restored, so many problems we are facing would be fixed. Thinking on how powerful integrity is to the collective, it saddens me, frustrates me, that such an incredible trait is absent from the ones attempting to lead us. Dion also said something concerning these quotes: Exactly, We Exchange the classic lines and qualities of constructive being for the ephemeral attributes of the fad and it's inherent fall. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The ride up on the roller coaster is never as much fun as the precipitous plummet. This culture builds heroes not to mimic them but for the ecstasy of watching them come apart. Who is leading who? And where? |
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(OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/26/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” - Nikola Tesla Last Edited by Swinging on Spirals on 09/26/2012 11:30 AM "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
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(OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/26/2012 11:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” Quoting: Swinging on Spirals - Nikola Tesla They're not the only ones. This is completely off the original topic. "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24443755 Canada 09/26/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” Quoting: Swinging on Spirals - Nikola Tesla They're not the only ones. This is completely off the original topic. :MOE: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24301231 Canada 09/26/2012 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I discussed something with OYE the other day, and he said something that rang true. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Our leaders have lost their integrity. If integrity could be restored, so many problems we are facing would be fixed. Thinking on how powerful integrity is to the collective, it saddens me, frustrates me, that such an incredible trait is absent from the ones attempting to lead us. Dion also said something concerning these quotes: Exactly, We Exchange the classic lines and qualities of constructive being for the ephemeral attributes of the fad and it's inherent fall. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The ride up on the roller coaster is never as much fun as the precipitous plummet. This culture builds heroes not to mimic them but for the ecstasy of watching them come apart. Who is leading who? And where? Watch the actions and the words are inconsequential. Monies have been created not as a vested store of transaction, unit of account and exchange but as a way to alter intent and reward the conflicted. It has thus made self perpetuating/fulfilling logic the precursor to action/intent and cleaved the mind in two. No true artist creates with a mind to end or remuneration but for the process itself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24301231 Canada 09/26/2012 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I discussed something with OYE the other day, and he said something that rang true. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Our leaders have lost their integrity. If integrity could be restored, so many problems we are facing would be fixed. Thinking on how powerful integrity is to the collective, it saddens me, frustrates me, that such an incredible trait is absent from the ones attempting to lead us. Dion also said something concerning these quotes: Exactly, We Exchange the classic lines and qualities of constructive being for the ephemeral attributes of the fad and it's inherent fall. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The ride up on the roller coaster is never as much fun as the precipitous plummet. This culture builds heroes not to mimic them but for the ecstasy of watching them come apart. Who is leading who? And where? Watch the actions and the words are inconsequential. Monies have been created not as a vested store of transaction, unit of account and exchange but as a way to alter intent and reward the conflicted. It has thus made self perpetuating/fulfilling logic the precursor to action/intent and cleaved the mind in two. No true artist creates with a mind to end or remuneration but for the process itself. Think Circle instead of spiral. In contradiction of pattern in process. |
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(OP) User ID: 865798 United States 09/26/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I discussed something with OYE the other day, and he said something that rang true. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Our leaders have lost their integrity. If integrity could be restored, so many problems we are facing would be fixed. Thinking on how powerful integrity is to the collective, it saddens me, frustrates me, that such an incredible trait is absent from the ones attempting to lead us. Dion also said something concerning these quotes: Exactly, We Exchange the classic lines and qualities of constructive being for the ephemeral attributes of the fad and it's inherent fall. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The ride up on the roller coaster is never as much fun as the precipitous plummet. This culture builds heroes not to mimic them but for the ecstasy of watching them come apart. Who is leading who? And where? Watch the actions and the words are inconsequential. Monies have been created not as a vested store of transaction, unit of account and exchange but as a way to alter intent and reward the conflicted. It has thus made self perpetuating/fulfilling logic the precursor to action/intent and cleaved the mind in two. No true artist creates with a mind to end or remuneration but for the process itself. “We build but to tear down. Most of our work and resource is squandered. Our onward march is marked by devastation. Everywhere there is an appalling loss of time, effort and life. A cheerless view, but true.” -Nikola Tesla "Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24443755 Canada 09/26/2012 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I discussed something with OYE the other day, and he said something that rang true. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Our leaders have lost their integrity. If integrity could be restored, so many problems we are facing would be fixed. Thinking on how powerful integrity is to the collective, it saddens me, frustrates me, that such an incredible trait is absent from the ones attempting to lead us. Dion also said something concerning these quotes: Exactly, We Exchange the classic lines and qualities of constructive being for the ephemeral attributes of the fad and it's inherent fall. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The ride up on the roller coaster is never as much fun as the precipitous plummet. This culture builds heroes not to mimic them but for the ecstasy of watching them come apart. Who is leading who? And where? Watch the actions and the words are inconsequential. Monies have been created not as a vested store of transaction, unit of account and exchange but as a way to alter intent and reward the conflicted. It has thus made self perpetuating/fulfilling logic the precursor to action/intent and cleaved the mind in two. No true artist creates with a mind to end or remuneration but for the process itself. Not necessarily. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24301231 Canada 09/26/2012 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I discussed something with OYE the other day, and he said something that rang true. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Our leaders have lost their integrity. If integrity could be restored, so many problems we are facing would be fixed. Thinking on how powerful integrity is to the collective, it saddens me, frustrates me, that such an incredible trait is absent from the ones attempting to lead us. Dion also said something concerning these quotes: ... Who is leading who? And where? Watch the actions and the words are inconsequential. Monies have been created not as a vested store of transaction, unit of account and exchange but as a way to alter intent and reward the conflicted. It has thus made self perpetuating/fulfilling logic the precursor to action/intent and cleaved the mind in two. No true artist creates with a mind to end or remuneration but for the process itself. Not necessarily. If you create with the end in mind you will never be freed by the awareness you come to. Even in Dostoeyevsky's Tome justifying the ends his means propelled him from the foregone conclusion and freed him from his own malaise. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5127800 Canada 09/26/2012 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” Quoting: Swinging on Spirals - Nikola Tesla I discussed something with OYE the other day, and he said something that rang true. Quoting: Swinging on Spirals Our leaders have lost their integrity. If integrity could be restored, so many problems we are facing would be fixed. Thinking on how powerful integrity is to the collective, it saddens me, frustrates me, that such an incredible trait is absent from the ones attempting to lead us. Dion also said something concerning these quotes: Exactly, We Exchange the classic lines and qualities of constructive being for the ephemeral attributes of the fad and it's inherent fall. Quoting: Dionysian Fullaflattus The ride up on the roller coaster is never as much fun as the precipitous plummet. This culture builds heroes not to mimic them but for the ecstasy of watching them come apart. Who is leading who? And where? Watch the actions and the words are inconsequential. Monies have been created not as a vested store of transaction, unit of account and exchange but as a way to alter intent and reward the conflicted. It has thus made self perpetuating/fulfilling logic the precursor to action/intent and cleaved the mind in two. No true artist creates with a mind to end or remuneration but for the process itself. And there is a prime example of what Tesla meant by thinking clearly and not just deeply! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5127800 Canada 09/26/2012 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the actions and the words are inconsequential. Monies have been created not as a vested store of transaction, unit of account and exchange but as a way to alter intent and reward the conflicted. It has thus made self perpetuating/fulfilling logic the precursor to action/intent and cleaved the mind in two. for this quote alone this thread deserves 5 stars....don't let it go to your head DFF. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24443755 Canada 09/26/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watch the actions and the words are inconsequential. Monies have been created not as a vested store of transaction, unit of account and exchange but as a way to alter intent and reward the conflicted. It has thus made self perpetuating/fulfilling logic the precursor to action/intent and cleaved the mind in two. No true artist creates with a mind to end or remuneration but for the process itself. Not necessarily. If you create with the end in mind you will never be freed by the awareness you come to. Even in Dostoeyevsky's Tome justifying the ends his means propelled him from the foregone conclusion and freed him from his own malaise. Sometimes, I think that you you think too narrowly. Not everything is cut and dried. |