Difference between colloidal and ionic silver, Nano or Atomic which is best?

Just go out in the street and stop anyone who looks ill with very grey skin.

the mind is a more powerful cure than any worldly item in most cases, as long as a person takes a multi-vitamin meditation, relaxation, good friends, and joy are what heal....

That and some interval exercise and a balanced diet, avoiding excessive carb binging

but if you insist on trying it, colloidal silver is fine. The 'better' it is when it comes to selling online miracle cures, the bigger profit margin from the person selling it usually.

Just don't go paying $500+ for 'clustered' or 'structured' water machines now.. a fool and his money...

I do have a colloidal silver generator sitting around. Silver is a great anti-bacterial agent, then again so is hydrogen peroxide. Don't go drinking MMS, by the way. Another scam. Just breath more and exercise if you want to oxygenate your body.

Take a good look OP

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From my understanding of the grey skin effect, it is

Fraudulent information and is being circulated about Colloidal Silver in an effort to discredit both the product and those who produce it.

In some cases people have unwittingly contaminated themselves with Silver Chlorides, having been led to believe they were making Colloidal Silver in their homes. Silver Chloride contamination causes a condition called argyria (grey/blue skin)

so from what I understand as long as the Collodial Silver doesnt have added salt and it hasnt been boiled then it does not turn into chlorides...is this right? Does anyone know?

Atomic Colloida Silver is 250,000 times smaller than 20 to 500 PPM Colloidal Silver.

That is an undisputable fact.

Because atomic size particles can easily be excreted, meaning they will not get stuck in your kidneys or organs due to their size.

The next question to answer is which is the safest atomic colloidal silver:

Simple, the one that is made with Zero Chemicals.

The FDA has reported that most producers of Colloids use chemicals such as:

Cynide
Hydrogen Peroxide
Hydrochloric Acid
Sulfuric Acid
Nitric Acid
Bromides (Silver Protien)
Chlorides

The interesting thing is that Hydrogen Peroxide has been reported to cause premature gray hair.

Hydrochloric Acid Causes the hair to fall out

Chlorides kill skin cells or other on contact.

Much more research needs to be done on the other chemicals after effects.

Colloidal Silver Atoms is made with ZERO chemical, its clear as water since atomic size particles are invisible to the naked eye and it defies all the conventional tests and methods applicable to nanoparticle silver.

Doctors and scientists agree, that the smaller the particle of any medicine and or element to cure a disease, the better.

Until the past few years, in colloids, the only option available was huge nanoparticle colloids, now you have an atomic size particle option which is rapidly gaining acceptance world wide.

as long as people don't add salt during the electrolysis (to speed up the process), it won't produce silver hydrochloride.

an ionic silver solution (larger particles) is good for topical use; a colloidal silver solution (smaller particles) is good for internal use. neither are any use in your stomach or intestinal tract (except for some rare cases), so have it absorbed by swishing it around in your mouth.

When EVER Salt is added, its used to make the nanoparticles stay suspended in the solution. Nanoparticles are too heavy by themselves to stay afloat.

I would shy away from anything that has salt added to the mixture, since chlroides kill cells on contact.

That would explain why all these people claim to have "spiritual" whirlies, they are killing thier brain cells.

If you do not mind the gray, go with hydrogen peroxide.

I like my hair so I will stay away from HCL (hydrochloric acid).

However, if you should find that your low ppm stuff does not work then try the colloidal atoms products, superior in every way.

Ionic,calloidol,nano are simly size messurements. WARNING: If you find or someone claims ANY type of TRUE "Colloidal" Silver has ANYTHING BUT .9999 Pure Silver and "Distilled Water" ONLY..! Anything else is garbage! Here's the recipe... full and complete. Its as easy to make as cool aid and even easier to MESS IT UP..! Keep in mind "Colloidol Silver" was listed by the American Medical Association in a section of Pharmacudical desk referances and Medical Dr.s Learned about it in Medical School between WWI and WWII as A "CURE ALL" Mean it along with more then a couple other NATURAL HEALERS as such: "Cure All"- a Natural substance in it raw form or tixture form to be TESTED TO KILL EVERY SINGLE PATHITHEN KNOWN TO MAN." Wich was 500 and change it that day.. Now that's over 900 and its still kills every pathogen known to man. Here's the list of THE ONLY PROPERTIES IN TRUE COLLODAL SILVER. NO EXCEPTIONS.

1. - .9999 Silver
2. Distilled Water.

THAT'S IT..!

For anyone that tells you its a heavy metal or ask anyone with grey skin that lookks sick has know idea what there talking about r how to make Collodol Silver.

WHY THE HORROR STORIES ABOUT A FEW IDIOTS TURNING BLUE..? BECAUSE ...

THERE NOT USING COLLOIDOL SILVER..! END OF STORY. IT WAS MADE WRONG.
Only make 12 to 14 ounces at a time NO MORE!

.9999 Silver Rods---- in cobalt blue or brown glass. Placed in a dark cabenet. Find a specific 27 Volts percisely...27 Volts (this among everything else will tell you your "Size Partical" is calloidal or smaller and ONLY SILVER, worried about it not staying suspended in the water, shaked the damn bottle ONE time before using.)

Make sure the water is at least room temp (72F or a little higher)

27 Volts for a period of lnow less then 20 minutes and know more then 30 minutes.... ANY LONGER THEN THAT THE CLOUDIER IT GETS AS THE PARTICALS OF SILVER BREAKING OF THE RODS FROM THE CURRENT AND THE SIZE PARTICAL GETS BIGGER """COLLOID"" ""coloidal"" is a size messurement. If the water is cloudy its either contaminated or BIGGER then a colloid and WILL NOT be able to excape thhrough your skin when you sweat and/or larger particals get logged through out the body under the skin, when the sun light more so but any light hits the silver particals the particals reflect...reflect your blue blood to the surface of your skin!

IMPORTANT NOTICE: COLLOIDOL SILVER HAS IS COMPLETELY AMAZING WHEN MADE PROPERLY.

You must keep in in cobalt blue or brown glass in the dark. A bottle inside a small card board box is best. "American Biotics" brand name sells there already in a box.

WHY: Anyone old enough to have used Film style cameras knows if you open the camera the film is destroy ONCE THE U.V. RAYS DESTROY THE ELECTRIC LIFE IN THE "SILVER PARTICALS" IN THE FILM..! So it does so to Colloidol Silver and then its just Distilled Water.

If the bull ^%$# bad propaganda worries you, understand that the budget for research,developement and manufacturing for the American Medical Association that banned Colloidol Silver claims to heal anything laws were passed the same time. ANTI BIOTICS WERE MADE SYNTHETICALLY TO COPY SILVERS ACTIONS. Commercialy be able to patent... so Silver being natural can not be patented. Chemo was made around the same time.

Some U.S. Hospitals in certain liability cases where there at fault will take a colloidol silver (this is done around the world for decades that do not have certain insurances) The distilled water is distilled a minamum of 3 times. Then made into Colloidol Silver. Then put in an I.V. bag and main line right into the blood stream to cure what ever "Incurable" mistake that may have been made because anti boitics were positively known to kill floural in digestion and cause life time of disease and if to much is used will kill you right then. Silver will NOT harn you in any dose as long as the size partical is calloid or smaller if ingested.

I prefer ionic nanosilver, and I prefer it in topical form. I prefer it as it comes in a product called Powerstrips because I've seen what it they do for infections and it is amazing.

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Enough of this nonsense argument over colloidal versus ionic silver. What is an ion? An ion is a single atom of an element that is either missing (positive charge) or has an excess (negative charge) of one or more electrons. A single atom of a substance is still of that substance. Anyone who can argue against this is either trying hard to sell you something or sadly misinformed. A few minutes with Google will clear up the matter. Search “what is an atom? What is a particle? What is an element?” It is that simple.

Metal atoms form positive ions, while non-metal atoms form negative ions. The strong electrostatic forces of attraction between oppositely charged ions are called ionic bonds.
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Zarathushtra: “With an open mind, seek and listen to all the highest ideals. Consider the most enlightened thoughts. Then choose your path, person by person, each for oneself.”

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Chemically produced Silver nanoparticles have been around for a long time. Dilute forms of silver nitrate were used before antibiotics dominated the field of medicine. It has become necessary to explore the antimicrobial properties of silver-based chemicals again because microbes have gained resistance against the wide range of present-day antibiotics. The advancements in medicine and technology started to merge to combat microbes' adaptability as they successfully become tolerant to antibiotics. It manifested in the form of current technology, Nanomedicine.
In recent years, silver nanoparticles (Ag NPs) have been the subject of many studies due to their potential as antimicrobials. Their special and unique properties can be attributed to their smaller size and larger specific surface area. Many preparation processes have been proposed for controlling the physical or chemical characteristics of Ag NPs. The pharmaceutical industry is well aware of the problem of antibiotic resistance. They want to use silver. Silver is the obvious choice as an antibiotic, antifungal, and antiviral substance.
Pharmaceutical companies are developing patentable processes to produce Ag NPs with diameters of less than 10nm using a process that employs D-glucose as the reducing agent and soluble starch as the stabilizing agent. The particle sizes of Ag NPs are controlled by modifying reaction system parameters such as pH, temperature, and reactant concentrations. The choice of stabilizing agent is an essential factor for controlling the particle size of Ag NPs since it is reduced within the nanoscopic templates of the stabilizing agent.
The fact that the silver ions are the effective agents is well documented. They cannot sell silver ions as there is no profit in it. The freely available knowledge in "The art of making colloidal silver" and other publications have made it possible for anyone with access to water, silver, and electricity to make EIS, electrically isolated silver.

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Our silver ions will have to pierce the cell wall of the bacterium. The most important component of the most bacteria cell walls are composed of an endotoxin called lipopolysaccharide. These endotoxin molecules carry a negative charge.

Lipopolysaccharide

The positively charged single atoms of silver will eagerly bind with them, disabling their function. The destruction of these bacteria would explain the Herxheimer effect experienced to some degree by people using colloidal (ionic) silver for the first time infected by one of these organisms.

There is a great deal of confusion about ionic versus particulate colloidal silver. The way we measure the concentration or strength of colloidal silver is by its conductivity. It is measured in Microsiemens. One Microsiemen of conductivity equals one ppm of ionic colloidal silver. The presence of ions causes conductivity in a liquid. Without ions, there is no conductivity. It is an insulator. No current will flow. So the same measure that we use to denote the strength of a colloidal silver solution is, by definition, the number of ions present. An ion is a single atom of an element, in this case, silver, with a single electron, either missing or added. In the case of silver, the outer valence bond band contains only one electron. It is relatively easy for silver to become an ion. Its outer electron is only loosely held. It becomes a positive ion looking for some other element with which it can share an electron. Your body is one huge electrical factory with all sorts of elements very busily combining and disassociating. All of this happens cut with ions. If you go into a hospital where they have to find out what’s wrong with you, one of the first things they will do is check your electrolytes. An electrolyte is a substance that dissociates into ions in solution and acquires the capacity to conduct electricity. Sodium, potassium, chloride, calcium, and phosphate are examples of electrolytes, informally known as lytes.

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Argyria is the graying of the skin. Colloidal silver can be produced either chemically or electrically. Argyria is a result of ingesting high doses of chemically produced colloidal silver. There has never been a case of Argyria caused by electrically produced colloidal silver.
Please be clear about this, electrically produced silver colloid does not cause Argyria. Hundreds of thousands of people worldwide have been taking electrically produced colloidal silver for decades. The concern is with silver salts, not colloidal silver.
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Chemically produced colloidal silver causes Argyria. Colloidal silver was widely used in the early 1900s. Scientists at the time discovered that if they chemically combined the silver colloid with a protein, it would not only be better digested, they could produce it in greater concentration.
This led to silver nitrate and silver salts. Before the early 1900s, there had never been any adverse side effects with ingesting silver, so testing the toxicity was not a big concern. But before the toxicity was tested, doctors had already begun to use it on their patients.
As we know now, silver nitrate and other silver salts were toxic in high doses. It caused Argyria, cosmetic bluing, or graying of the skin produced by a build-up of un-dissolved silver particles in the tissues.

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The only effect reported by some colloidal silver users is a phenomenon called the “Herxheimer effect,” named after doctor Karl Herxheimer (who identified this phenomenon).
Sometimes, when taking colloidal silver for the first time, some people may experience mild headaches, cold, or flu. The reason is that colloidal silver is so efficient at killing pathogens that the body may not adequately dispose of the dead pathogens fast enough through the normal organs of elimination, and it resorts to the secondary ones, the lungs, sinuses, and skin.
The user may experience mild diarrhea as the body tries to flush itself out. In that case, one merely needs to reduce the dose or completely abstain for a day or so. Once the body has been thoroughly cleansed, these symptoms will not reappear.

Electrically produced colloidal silver is completely safe and non-toxic. There has never been a single case of Argyria caused by electrically generated silver colloids. Humans have consumed it for years without any adverse side effects.

Clear is good
A clear colloidal silver solution signifies that there is no agglomeration to form larger particles. Agglomeration means that some of the particles are starting to share electron rings and are no longer repelling each other. This, in turn, may render the colloidal silver less potent.

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Over six years ago, I started a thread on a forum called goldismoney2. It is a forum created by people who believe in investing in Precious Metals. It is unique in the fact of not allowing any commercial content whatsoever. Any advertising or product promotion is strictly forbidden. It is well moderated and allows complete freedom of expression for the members. As long as the members do not engage in really obnoxious behavior, members can express themselves freely. I chose this forum as it was the only one I could find that had a section concerning Alternative Health topics, including colloidal silver. There was no other place for people to get honest information about colloidal silver. Someone in a colloidal silver business owns every other source I can find or they advertise on the site. Let’s face it. If you accept money from somebody, you’re not going to criticize them for what they say. Once you take money from someone, you are their prisoner. Let’s not kid ourselves. Money Talks, BS walks. Goldismoney2 is supported entirely and only by occasional contributions by the members.
I gave the three most important factors that I had found over the years for making colloidal silver. There were many members of goldismoney2 who had been making colloidal silver for years. They were using a great variety of methods, and many had colloidal silver generators from various manufacturers.

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