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Dark Matter Mystery - Closer to Being Solved?

 
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Dark Matter Mystery - Closer to Being Solved?
The Mystery of Dark Matter May Be Near to Being Deciphered
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Copenhagen, Denmark (SPX) Sep 05, 2012

The universe is comprised of a large amount of invisible matter, dark matter. It fills the space between the galaxies and between the stars in the galaxies. Since the prediction of the existence of dark matter more than 70 years ago, all sorts of researchers - astronomers, cosmologists and particle physicists have been looking for answers to what it could be...

...The Planck satellite, which was launched in 2009, has extremely sensitive instruments that can map microwave radiation in the entire sky with great precision. The latest data from the Planck mission reveals unusual radiation from our own galaxy, which open a new direction in understanding the most fundamental properties of the space, time and matter in the Universe.

"We have observed a very unique emission of radio radiation from the centre of our galaxy, the Milky Way. By using different methods to separate the signal for very broad range of wavelengths, we have been able to determine the spectrum of the radiation.

The radiation originates from synchrotron emission, i.e. electrons and positrons circulating at high energies around the lines of the Magnetic Field in the centre of the galaxy, and there are quite strong indications that it could come from dark matter," explains Pavel Naselsky...

..."But we know from theoretical predictions that the concentration of dark matter particles around the centre of galaxies is very high and we have a strong argument they can collide there and in the collision electrons and positrons are formed. These electrons and positrons start to rotate around the magnetic field at the centre of the galaxy and in doing so produce this very unusual synchrotron radiation.

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It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO)
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Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS!
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Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS!
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I drove through a dark matter storm the other day...almost wrecked my damn car! Stuff is a nuisance, gets all over the sidewalks. Somebody needs to get rid of the stuff!
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Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS!
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Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust.

Want to try again ?
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Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549


Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust.

Want to try again ?
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Yeah, he was way off. lol
"Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body,
but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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SS- you seemed to know a lot of things regarding our universe and giving us constant clue to "confused" people like me .

Can you pls let us know if you are referring to Paul Laviollete's superwave?
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Well. this is pretty well all Greek to me, although I do have a dim recollection in the dark recesses of my mind.Carry on genius. Maybe I'll learn someting. I live in hopes.lolsign
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SS- you seemed to know a lot of things regarding our universe and giving us constant clue to "confused" people like me .

Can you pls let us know if you are referring to Paul Laviollete's superwave?
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Not in this instance.

But, I think other things that we have discussed concerning fluff, and the giant magnetic fields, etc can be associated with the dr.'s work. But, it may be unrelated as well. The reason I say this, is that it is very 'dynamic' out there, and we don't know a whole lot.

Laviolette has stated that the superwave may travel at the speed of light, therefor we would never see it coming, and could never have a warning of its coming because of it moving at light speed.

That's different than the idea that magnetic field lines and electric charges are carrier waves of energy. But, it is all related as well. lol It is more of a matter of how anyone may be relating these things to whatever they may be influencing.

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It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO)
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



Do you know what was it related to before being related to magnetic fields?
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Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549


Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust.

Want to try again ?
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


Yeah, he was way off. lol
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc.

It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far.

AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in.

tomato
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It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO)
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



Do you know what was it related to before being related to magnetic fields?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Some of the theories wrapped its cause and effect around gravity waves. Meanwhile, we cannot even detect a gravity wave.

So, we can't detect gravity waves, we can't detect dark matter, and yet they think that this is what it is. lol

I have always thought that it had to do with magnetic fields. Magnetism is invisible.
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Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549


Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust.

Want to try again ?
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


Yeah, he was way off. lol
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc.

It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far.

AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in.

tomato
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


I'll check it out. Damn, just did a search on Youtube for him. I think I will like him!


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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust.

Want to try again ?
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


Yeah, he was way off. lol
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc.

It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far.

AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in.

tomato
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


I'll check it out. Damn, just did a search on Youtube for him. I think I will like him!


 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


His lectures are great !

He does : Quantum Mechanics, Statistical Mechanics, Cosmology, M-Theory, Quantum Entanglements, the Theoretical Minimum, SR and GR, plus a few others.

He was also close friends with Feynman, and his lectures remind me of how well Feynman was at explaining difficult concepts, granted some of the more difficult math goes over my head, but most of it is easy to understand. On top of all that, he's a pretty funny guy.

Here's two recent lectures that are nice and succinct

Demystifying the Higgs Boson



The Black Hole Wars

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Dark matter... BS science. If there were so much "dark matter" spread all over the universe, we wouldn't be able to see the stars at night. Especially the ones that are "claimed" to be 15 billion light years away. If there was even one particle of dust per square mile of space, it would be like trying to look through a snowstorm. Science wrapped in religion! Complete BS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21943549


Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust.

Want to try again ?
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


Yeah, he was way off. lol
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc.

It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far.

AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in.

tomato
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


I could care less what some pseudo-scientist has to pontificate on his "science discoveries"... Sometimes common sense takes over. Unless you're a potato. Until these quacks take into account all the other dimensions and realms, they're looking in an empty paper bag for the answers. Quacks and Bozos!
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Yeah, he was way off. lol
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc.

It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far.

AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in.

tomato
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


I'll check it out. Damn, just did a search on Youtube for him. I think I will like him!


 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


His lectures are great !

He does : Quantum Mechanics, Statistical Mechanics, Cosmology, M-Theory, Quantum Entanglements, the Theoretical Minimum, SR and GR, plus a few others.

He was also close friends with Feynman, and his lectures remind me of how well Feynman was at explaining difficult concepts, granted some of the more difficult math goes over my head, but most of it is easy to understand. On top of all that, he's a pretty funny guy.

Here's two recent lectures that are nice and succinct

Demystifying the Higgs Boson



The Black Hole Wars


 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen



The Higgs Boson?!? Please, this thread is getting far too stupid. The "God" particle?!?! Like I said before, Quacks and Bozos!
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It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO)
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



Do you know what was it related to before being related to magnetic fields?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Some of the theories wrapped its cause and effect around gravity waves. Meanwhile, we cannot even detect a gravity wave.

So, we can't detect gravity waves, we can't detect dark matter, and yet they think that this is what it is. lol

I have always thought that it had to do with magnetic fields. Magnetism is invisible.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



I figured the response would be gravity, it seems to be the fall guy when an unknown is at hand.

Magnetics makes sense to me also, like a common/intuitive type of sense. In my own non-scientific way of thinking I consider dark matter to be creative potential. That it would give rise to positive and negative charged particles interacting with one another - the dance of the spiral - seems to me to be creation of matter...even if it is invisible.

Although I find science fascinating I'm so out of my league trying to discuss it - as may be evident by what I've above written - so I'll just read along from here on out.

I love-love these kinds of threads. Thanks for posting the article!


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It is interesting to note that dark matter is now being related to magnetic fields. (as it should, IMO)
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



Do you know what was it related to before being related to magnetic fields?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


Some of the theories wrapped its cause and effect around gravity waves. Meanwhile, we cannot even detect a gravity wave.

So, we can't detect gravity waves, we can't detect dark matter, and yet they think that this is what it is. lol

I have always thought that it had to do with magnetic fields. Magnetism is invisible.
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals



I figured the response would be gravity, it seems to be the fall guy when an unknown is at hand.

Magnetics makes sense to me also, like a common/intuitive type of sense. In my own non-scientific way of thinking I consider dark matter to be creative potential. That it would give rise to positive and negative charged particles interacting with one another - the dance of the spiral - seems to me to be creation of matter...even if it is invisible.

Although I find science fascinating I'm so out of my league trying to discuss it - as may be evident by what I've above written - so I'll just read along from here on out.

I love-love these kinds of threads. Thanks for posting the article!


hf
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Actually, you were pretty accurate in the way you expressed it.

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Dark matter isn't hypothesized to be dust.

Want to try again ?
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


Yeah, he was way off. lol
 Quoting: Swinging on Spirals


I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc.

It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far.

AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in.

tomato
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


I could care less what some pseudo-scientist has to pontificate on his "science discoveries"... Sometimes common sense takes over. Unless you're a potato. Until these quacks take into account all the other dimensions and realms, they're looking in an empty paper bag for the answers. Quacks and Bozos!
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Of course you don't.

You have an " opinion " about something based on a lack of knowledge.

There's a word to describe a lack of knowledge.....oh yeah...." Ignorance ".

Who's a quack ?

You charlie
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Actually, you were pretty accurate in the way you expressed it.

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Actually, you were pretty accurate in the way you expressed it.

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I've had good teachers, SoS wink.
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As have I. chuckle
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Yeah, he was way off. lol
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I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc.

It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far.

AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in.

tomato
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


I could care less what some pseudo-scientist has to pontificate on his "science discoveries"... Sometimes common sense takes over. Unless you're a potato. Until these quacks take into account all the other dimensions and realms, they're looking in an empty paper bag for the answers. Quacks and Bozos!
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Of course you don't.

You have an " opinion " about something based on a lack of knowledge.

There's a word to describe a lack of knowledge.....oh yeah...." Ignorance ".

Who's a quack ?

You charlie
 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


Is my lack of knowledge concerning this so-called dark matter? Oh wait, they can't find it, can't see it, and can't confer it's there. If that's ignorance, I'll accept that. You must remove yourself from mainstream science to get the proper answers. Dig deep, the answers are out there. It's just like the mainstream news, nothing but lies. If science spoke the truth, you'd never hear of it.
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 Quoting: Spruce Bringsteen


I'd highly recommend Leonard Susskind's 8 part lecture series on FLRW cosmology, filmed at Stanford U, he explains in explicit detail what is known, what isn't known, all the unanswered questions, all the problems and holes in the current model/s, radiation dominated universe as opposed to matter dominated universe, etc, etc.

It's the best lecture series on the FLRW model I've found so far.

AC,...sometimes it helps to actually know about what you say you don't believe in.

tomato


+1...yea this lecture is awesome, explained so that it's easy to understand.
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So, we can't detect gravity waves, we can't detect dark matter, and yet they think that this is what it is. lol

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Yea, and he describes dark matter as particles...maybe, maybe not?

"...the concentration of dark matter particles around the centre of galaxies"
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AC 21943549, you're quick to admonish posters on this thread and discount the article and other offered material, yet I haven't read you state what you think it is. You say to look elsewhere, but don't offer anything of substance to explore...like a link to what you're eluding to.

So, an honest question: How can you discount the exploration of this (purported) unknown, whether it's dark matter itself or what dark matter produces, if you yourself do not have the solution?

Why would you so vehemently squelch discussion and discovery?...I mean, I'm not seeing anyone on this thread saying they have all the answers, but I am seeing posters who want to learn and understand.

Humanity would be even more ignorant than what it is if imaginations and thought processes hadn't been stretched beyond the denseness of concrete (purported) intellectual and intuitive passivity.

Last Edited by cosmicgypsy on 09/05/2012 12:12 PM
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Lets start be acknowegeing that space is the opposite of a vacume.

It's a combination of different pressures, tempetures and fluides.
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I don't think that mainstream scientists will ever find 'dark matter,' because it will take a huge paradigm shift in the thinking of the established scientific community to 'look in the right place' for it, so to speak.

It will take too radical a scientists to take that step, the scientific community don't like people who stray from the 'official line' of doing things. They usually shun radicals.
Not to mention who pays for the funding ect. ect.

But when they start breaking the rules of empiricism, & start looking at concepts that you CANT observe, (like MIND, for example) then they might start getting somewhere
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I don't think that mainstream scientists will ever find 'dark matter,' because it will take a huge paradigm shift in the thinking of the established scientific community to 'look in the right place' for it, so to speak.

It will take too radical a scientists to take that step, the scientific community don't like people who stray from the 'official line' of doing things. They usually shun radicals.
Not to mention who pays for the funding ect. ect.

But when they start breaking the rules of empiricism, & start looking at concepts that you CANT observe, (like MIND, for example) then they might start getting somewhere
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good post!
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

We do not Die, We Awaken to the Dream that We Lived.
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I don't think that mainstream scientists will ever find 'dark matter,' because it will take a huge paradigm shift in the thinking of the established scientific community to 'look in the right place' for it, so to speak.

It will take too radical a scientists to take that step, the scientific community don't like people who stray from the 'official line' of doing things. They usually shun radicals.
Not to mention who pays for the funding ect. ect.

But when they start breaking the rules of empiricism, & start looking at concepts that you CANT observe, (like MIND, for example) then they might start getting somewhere
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good post!
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Thread: Paradigm Transformation - Cosmic in Scale
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but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!"

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Re: Dark Matter Mystery - Closer to Being Solved?
I don't think that mainstream scientists will ever find 'dark matter,' because it will take a huge paradigm shift in the thinking of the established scientific community to 'look in the right place' for it, so to speak.

It will take too radical a scientists to take that step, the scientific community don't like people who stray from the 'official line' of doing things. They usually shun radicals.
Not to mention who pays for the funding ect. ect.

But when they start breaking the rules of empiricism, & start looking at concepts that you CANT observe, (like MIND, for example) then they might start getting somewhere
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good post!
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Thanks for the link,

I got my info from this book (I'd love to pretend I'm super-smart lol)

[link to www.amazon.com]
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Re: Dark Matter Mystery - Closer to Being Solved?
Dark matter/energy what have you is truly not dark but as we humans only put images to about 1% of the light spectrum we see it as dark but truly it is vibrant and full of unperceived energy.......or magnetic fields whichever way you percieve it

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For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.





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