Off-Duty Cop Hits 4-Year-Old Girl With Motorcycle Then Shoots and Kills Angry Dad | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16213727 United States 08/15/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yet if the Dad was on the ground and being beaten by police after hitting the girls and he pulled a gun to defend himself, he would be charged with various crimes and most likely convicted. THAT is the problem. Had the exact situation occurred but a non-police officer was driving the motorcycle and the off duty cop was the Father of the victim, well, we all know how the article and the story would have played out. I've got to agree with you. While the govt. is trying to take our (law abiding citizens) legal guns rights away - will the 'off duty' cops still be walking around with their guns - cuz they're cops. |
AmericanJedi
User ID: 1503533 United States 08/15/2012 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know. I'd like to see third party accounts. Was the cop speeding? Was he drunk? Were these kids alone? There are too many factors to rush to judgement in favor of either party. (GLP aka American Jedi) Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth. Kenny Powers If you steal the dreams of others long enough, sooner or later you'll end up in a nightmare. American Jedi Intellectuals solve problems, geniuses prevent them. Albert Einstein Satis Eloquentiae, Sapientiae Parum.... "The last of the old?" "No, the first of the new." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22016356 Germany 08/15/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moments after his motorcycle struck a 4-year-old girl, an off-duty Chicago Police officer shot and killed the girl’s irate father after he allegedly attacked the officer, the Chicago Sun Times reports. Quoting: Nostril Domus Fraternal Order of Police Spokesman Pat Camden identified the officer as a 43-year-old veteran of the Chicago Police. The officer was headed home on Saturday evening when the horrifying incident occurred. As he was driving home, the officer says he saw a child unexpectedly run into the street. In order not to strike the girl directly, the cop jumped off his motorcycle, pulling it down on its side on the pavement. However, the motorcycle skidded and flipped, hitting the 4-year-old girl and her 18-year-old cousin, John Passley. As the officer attempted to provide aide to the girl, her father, identified as Christopher Middleton, 26, came running out of a nearby restaurant and aggressively approached the officer and began shouting, officials said. The cop argues that he identified himself as a police officer but Middleton still hit him in the face and knocked him to the ground before striking him repeatedly. According to the Daily Herald, the officer said, “Take it easy, I’m the Police.” But Middleton replied, “I don’t give a f*ck who you are,” and punched him in the face. [link to www.theblaze.com] The police officer is in the wrong. Any normal parent would be out of their minds and attack anyone that would harm their child. It is human instinct. No, it´s not. It might be what the average Joe would do in the US, but that´s another story... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 21333271 Canada 08/15/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was obviously upset and trying to protect his daughter. He overreacted. It doesn't mean he deserved to get killed. The cop shouldn't have brought a gun to a fist fight imo. He's not in uniform or on duty, he doesn't have the right to go around blasting people willy nilly Leave the sentencing to the judge, BUT The father was wrong to attack the cop The cop was WAY MORE wrong to pull a gun and kill the father If you can't see that you are morally defective |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1202994 United States 08/15/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed that Black people tend to walk in the middle of the road a lot. White people don't tend to do this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1202994 Black people tend to wear dark clothes and can be hard to see at night. Walking in the middle of the road wearing dark clothes and with dark skin tends to increase the chances of being hit by a vehicle. I kind of doubt they were just walking directly across the street as in just a 30 foot walk. Most likely the two were walking down the middle of the street and even with headlights were hard to see. Don't walk down the middle of the road at night wearing dark clothes or you may be hit by a car or truck or motorcycle or bicyclist or... You didn't read the article did you? In the time it took you to type up that inaccurate post you could have answered you own speculation by reading the damn link. Yes I read the article. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2773589 United States 08/15/2012 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moments after his motorcycle struck a 4-year-old girl, an off-duty Chicago Police officer shot and killed the girl’s irate father after he allegedly attacked the officer, the Chicago Sun Times reports. Quoting: Nostril Domus Fraternal Order of Police Spokesman Pat Camden identified the officer as a 43-year-old veteran of the Chicago Police. The officer was headed home on Saturday evening when the horrifying incident occurred. As he was driving home, the officer says he saw a child unexpectedly run into the street. In order not to strike the girl directly, the cop jumped off his motorcycle, pulling it down on its side on the pavement. However, the motorcycle skidded and flipped, hitting the 4-year-old girl and her 18-year-old cousin, John Passley. As the officer attempted to provide aide to the girl, her father, identified as Christopher Middleton, 26, came running out of a nearby restaurant and aggressively approached the officer and began shouting, officials said. The cop argues that he identified himself as a police officer but Middleton still hit him in the face and knocked him to the ground before striking him repeatedly. According to the Daily Herald, the officer said, “Take it easy, I’m the Police.” But Middleton replied, “I don’t give a f*ck who you are,” and punched him in the face. [link to www.theblaze.com] Dad of the year there, instead of seeing if his 4 year old girl was alright, he uses it as an excuse to strike a cop. Thats teaching your children forgiveness and love right there, dude deserved to die, now his daughter can be raised by someone with a little more heart and humility. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1369739 United States 08/15/2012 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess a white guy would have just stood there and cried after some stupid dipshit ran over his kid. Yes because thats what civilized people do. Accidents happen all the time, doesn't give one party the right to try to beat them to death. If I had a gun and was being attack I would of shot him as well. I cannot BELIEVE you just said that. I would rather be uncivilized and die fighting than be someone like you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22016886 United Kingdom 08/15/2012 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If a kid runs into the road and they get run over the parent should get angry but has to realize it was an accident and it was the kids fault or even the parents. I'm not being racist, but black people always think their right and tend to be violent. Not racism, fact. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2773589 United States 08/15/2012 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess a white guy would have just stood there and cried after some stupid dipshit ran over his kid. Yes because thats what civilized people do. Accidents happen all the time, doesn't give one party the right to try to beat them to death. If I had a gun and was being attack I would of shot him as well. I cannot BELIEVE you just said that. I would rather be uncivilized and die fighting than be someone like you. I would rather tend to my daughter then fight a cop for accidentally hitting my daughter, he jumped off his bike to try and avoid hitting her, it was an ACCIDENT! the dood is an angry black guy and he deserved to be shot in self defense. You blacksicans never learn. Attacking a cop is not a priority over the wellfare of my daughters being. sorry just isnt |
Captain Spaulding User ID: 21326363 United States 08/15/2012 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everything else aside, the motorcycle was in the wrong. NEVER lay your bike down when you can't stop. Ask yourself - what stops better on asphalt, rubber (tires) or metal? Rubber. Way back in the old days they used to teach motorcycle cops to lay the bikes down in an emergency stopping situation. Since the 80's they got wise and started using stunt riders and pro racers to teach police how to ride and survive. Rubber provides more friction than metal. You have more control over where the machine is going and the choice to go up and over if you hit and time it right. Maybe the officer missed his safety riding class. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1369739 United States 08/15/2012 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont condone either mans actions. I can only imagine the emotions that were going through the dads head as he seen his daughter get run over. But then i can imagine the fear that the cop has, as he is getting beat by this guy. Quoting: Nostril Domus It was an accident period. A crime happened afterwards by both parties involved. +1 Sums it up nicely. yes, a trained cop, in fear from getting beat up by one man. Must have been overwhelming for his witty bitty psyche. |
Edge Rider
User ID: 1377922 United States 08/15/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Row, row, row your boat...gently down the stream...merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily...life is but a dream... [link to en.wikipedia.org] / [link to www.youtube.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22016886 United Kingdom 08/15/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21988459 I guess a white guy would have just stood there and cried after some stupid dipshit ran over his kid. Yes because thats what civilized people do. Accidents happen all the time, doesn't give one party the right to try to beat them to death. If I had a gun and was being attack I would of shot him as well. I cannot BELIEVE you just said that. I would rather be uncivilized and die fighting than be someone like you. I would rather tend to my daughter then fight a cop for accidentally hitting my daughter, he jumped off his bike to try and avoid hitting her, it was an ACCIDENT! the dood is an angry black guy and he deserved to be shot in self defense. You blacksicans never learn. Attacking a cop is not a priority over the wellfare of my daughters being. sorry just isnt Good man! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1369739 United States 08/15/2012 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21988459 I guess a white guy would have just stood there and cried after some stupid dipshit ran over his kid. Yes because thats what civilized people do. Accidents happen all the time, doesn't give one party the right to try to beat them to death. If I had a gun and was being attack I would of shot him as well. I cannot BELIEVE you just said that. I would rather be uncivilized and die fighting than be someone like you. I would rather tend to my daughter then fight a cop for accidentally hitting my daughter, he jumped off his bike to try and avoid hitting her, it was an ACCIDENT! the dood is an angry black guy and he deserved to be shot in self defense. You blacksicans never learn. Attacking a cop is not a priority over the wellfare of my daughters being. sorry just isnt you freakin' idiot. you DO NO DO NOT DO NOT know how you would react in a similar situation, nor should you be judging others for reacting that way. I hope you find out someday, but everybody lives. You judgmental arshole. |
Streets are not playgrounds User ID: 1443960 United States 08/15/2012 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moments after his motorcycle struck a 4-year-old girl, an off-duty Chicago Police officer shot and killed the girl’s irate father after he allegedly attacked the officer, the Chicago Sun Times reports. Quoting: Nostril Domus Fraternal Order of Police Spokesman Pat Camden identified the officer as a 43-year-old veteran of the Chicago Police. The officer was headed home on Saturday evening when the horrifying incident occurred. As he was driving home, the officer says he saw a child unexpectedly run into the street. In order not to strike the girl directly, the cop jumped off his motorcycle, pulling it down on its side on the pavement. However, the motorcycle skidded and flipped, hitting the 4-year-old girl and her 18-year-old cousin, John Passley. As the officer attempted to provide aide to the girl, her father, identified as Christopher Middleton, 26, came running out of a nearby restaurant and aggressively approached the officer and began shouting, officials said. The cop argues that he identified himself as a police officer but Middleton still hit him in the face and knocked him to the ground before striking him repeatedly. According to the Daily Herald, the officer said, “Take it easy, I’m the Police.” But Middleton replied, “I don’t give a f*ck who you are,” and punched him in the face. [link to www.theblaze.com] The police officer is in the wrong. Any normal parent would be out of their minds and attack anyone that would harm their child. It is human instinct. Most states in the United States have laws requiring you to supervise your children. Some parents claim this can't be done at all times. I disagree. I remember in boot camp all the things we had to keep track of all the time. You know if the drill instructor came in and your locker wasn't kept at zero when closed or you were more than a 3 or 4 steps from an open locker you got pushups. We kept track of a myriad of things at all times and we were only 18. How about boot camp for parents who want to let their 4 year olds play in the street in violation of the law? Or boot camp for parents who say they can't keep their 4 year olds supervised? They can be trained to provide their children their legal right to be supervised. This girl could be molested as well as run over. |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1429850 United States 08/15/2012 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I hardly every side with the police on these issues but this is one instance where the rider being a cop is totally irrelevant, and being a rider myself and having had to take evasive action many times to avoid people who seem to think a motorcycle automatically has to yield the right of way no matter what and having had numerous kids run out in front of me on both my bike and in my car, I can truly say the father was stupid and got what he deserved. i would have shot both of them myself. |
It's called a fence. User ID: 1443960 United States 08/15/2012 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 941914 United States 08/15/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For once in a long time, I am on the cop's side. He tried his best that any human could to avoid the girl, even pulling the motorcycle on its side. The man was furious and in schock, but why was he trying to beat this man who was trying to help his daughter, and not try to help him to help the daughter and the other hit child? WHY THE FUCK WAS THE FATHER IN A RESTAURANT AND THE CHILDREN OUTSIDE PLAYING IN THE STREET????? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19314724 United States 08/15/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Child was unsupervised, runs out into the street. Man driving home from work dumps bike as child runs out into the street. Man tries to render aid to child. Father of child and others go ape-shit on man. Man fears for his life and caps mofo attacking him. Mofo stops attacking. Seems pretty simple to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 941914 United States 08/15/2012 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For once in a long time, I am on the cop's side. He tried his best that any human could to avoid the girl, even pulling the motorcycle on its side. The man was furious and in schock, but why was he trying to beat this man who was trying to help his daughter, and not try to help him to help the daughter and the other hit child? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 941914 WHY THE FUCK WAS THE FATHER IN A RESTAURANT AND THE CHILDREN OUTSIDE PLAYING IN THE STREET????? SOME KIND OF 'CONCERN' THE FATER HAD FOR HIS DAUGHTER AND THE OTHER CHILD. REALLY WHAT AN ASSHOLE. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1369739 United States 08/15/2012 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1131166 Yes because thats what civilized people do. Accidents happen all the time, doesn't give one party the right to try to beat them to death. If I had a gun and was being attack I would of shot him as well. I cannot BELIEVE you just said that. I would rather be uncivilized and die fighting than be someone like you. I would rather tend to my daughter then fight a cop for accidentally hitting my daughter, he jumped off his bike to try and avoid hitting her, it was an ACCIDENT! the dood is an angry black guy and he deserved to be shot in self defense. You blacksicans never learn. Attacking a cop is not a priority over the wellfare of my daughters being. sorry just isnt Good man! yeah, so "Noble": help the CHILD. Don't become violent. You watch some idiot tip sideways while his motorbike slides down the road and runs down your child and ...oh forget it. You pacificst freaks. If this is because of color, screw you. If it's because your stupid - like you never heard of a "crime of passion" or why the COURT SYSTEM does not judge people as harshly when the mind is so traumaticlaly assaulted that a person's actions are understandable - you have clue about any of that. I'll tell you one thing, I'M biased. I have known a TON of people killed in motorcycle accidents and that caused car accidents with their motorcycles. Motorcycle, IMHO, should not be allowed on the roadways because the mind cannot adapt quickly enough from a car to a little sliver of a thing coming down the road. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7533675 United States 08/15/2012 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you retarded? The guy was in some restaurant while his kid was outside running around in the middle of the fucking street. You people are SO STUPID it is unreal. In the real world, you can't just attack people. Germans can't read English. She was with his older sister he was taking them out to lunch. During his lunch break from work. Stand up guy no police record at all. First you say blacks don't work,take care their children and marry their woman you just killed one who was doing all the above. Why are you not defending him. Simple because your a racist it does not matter the circumstances he will never be human in your eyes. This is what really makes you the animal that needs to be put down |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1369739 United States 08/15/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Child was unsupervised, runs out into the street. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19314724 Man driving home from work dumps bike as child runs out into the street. Man tries to render aid to child. Father of child and others go ape-shit on man. Man fears for his life and caps mofo attacking him. Mofo stops attacking. Seems pretty simple to me. and yeah, ALWAYS trust the media when reporting about cops. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1369739 United States 08/15/2012 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont condone either mans actions. I can only imagine the emotions that were going through the dads head as he seen his daughter get run over. But then i can imagine the fear that the cop has, as he is getting beat by this guy. Quoting: Nostril Domus It was an accident period. A crime happened afterwards by both parties involved. +1 Sums it up nicely. yes, a trained cop, in fear from getting beat up by one man. Must have been overwhelming for his witty bitty psyche. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20881300 United States 08/15/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Child was unsupervised, runs out into the street. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19314724 Man driving home from work dumps bike as child runs out into the street. Man tries to render aid to child. Father of child and others go ape-shit on man. Man fears for his life and caps mofo attacking him. Mofo stops attacking. Seems pretty simple to me. and yeah, ALWAYS trust the media when reporting about cops. or on the reporting of anything that challenges tptb. "To avoid striking the girl, the officer purposely ditched his motorcycle, putting it down on its side on the pavement, according to a statement from Maywood village spokesman Larry Shapiro." [link to www.suntimes.com] And there is the official position from the town crier. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18169141 United States 08/15/2012 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yet if the Dad was on the ground and being beaten by police after hitting the girls and he pulled a gun to defend himself, he would be charged with various crimes and most likely convicted. THAT is the problem. Had the exact situation occurred but a non-police officer was driving the motorcycle and the off duty cop was the Father of the victim, well, we all know how the article and the story would have played out. Exactly. An off duty cop is being hailed as a hero duty as he shoots and kills a biker on a murderous rampage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18169141 United States 08/15/2012 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yet if the Dad was on the ground and being beaten by police after hitting the girls and he pulled a gun to defend himself, he would be charged with various crimes and most likely convicted. THAT is the problem. Had the exact situation occurred but a non-police officer was driving the motorcycle and the off duty cop was the Father of the victim, well, we all know how the article and the story would have played out. Exactly. An off duty cop is being hailed as a hero duty as he shoots and kills a biker on a murderous rampage. As a hero today^ just woke up sorry |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1429850 United States 08/15/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, so "Noble": help the CHILD. Don't become violent. You watch some idiot tip sideways while his motorbike slides down the road and runs down your child and ...oh forget it. You pacificst freaks. If this is because of color, screw you. If it's because your stupid - like you never heard of a "crime of passion" or why the COURT SYSTEM does not judge people as harshly when the mind is so traumaticlaly assaulted that a person's actions are understandable - you have clue about any of that. I'll tell you one thing, I'M biased. I have known a TON of people killed in motorcycle accidents and that caused car accidents with their motorcycles. Motorcycle, IMHO, should not be allowed on the roadways because the mind cannot adapt quickly enough from a car to a little sliver of a thing coming down the road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739 YOU'RE NOT ONLY AN ASSHOLE , YOU'RE A LIAR.STATISTICALLY ACCORDING TO MY INSURANCE COMPANY'S BROCHURE (ALLSTATE), OVER 90% OF ACCIDENTS INVOLVING MOTORCYCLES AND CARS INVOLVE AN AUTOMOBILE THAT HAS VIOLATED THE LAW WHILE THE RIDER WAS IN COMPLETE COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW. IF YOU CAN'T SEE A MOTORCYCLE, STOP DRIVING, BEFORE YOU MEET ME OUT THERE AND RUN ME OFF THE ROAD.. |
Anonymous astrophysicist User ID: 1429850 United States 08/15/2012 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yeah, so "Noble": help the CHILD. Don't become violent. You watch some idiot tip sideways while his motorbike slides down the road and runs down your child and ...oh forget it. You pacificst freaks. If this is because of color, screw you. If it's because your stupid - like you never heard of a "crime of passion" or why the COURT SYSTEM does not judge people as harshly when the mind is so traumaticlaly assaulted that a person's actions are understandable - you have clue about any of that. I'll tell you one thing, I'M biased. I have known a TON of people killed in motorcycle accidents and that caused car accidents with their motorcycles. Motorcycle, IMHO, should not be allowed on the roadways because the mind cannot adapt quickly enough from a car to a little sliver of a thing coming down the road. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369739 YOU'RE NOT ONLY AN ASSHOLE , YOU'RE A LIAR.STATISTICALLY ACCORDING TO MY INSURANCE COMPANY'S BROCHURE (ALLSTATE), OVER 90% OF ACCIDENTS INVOLVING MOTORCYCLES AND CARS INVOLVE AN AUTOMOBILE THAT HAS VIOLATED THE LAW WHILE THE RIDER WAS IN COMPLETE COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW. IF YOU CAN'T SEE A MOTORCYCLE, STOP DRIVING, BEFORE YOU MEET ME OUT THERE AND RUN ME OFF THE ROAD.. i'll lay odds ten to one odds your a dumb racist darky too |