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Notes from an "alternate universe": July 18, 2012 - The Return of the Gods

 
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Haha! Hey..
U3, how are you doing on your Genius map?
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Last one was to bring Chaol back and I did it in the Alternate thread. It worked pretty good considering I messed up the symbol.....but it didn't bring the real Chaol back. I haven't figured out how to do it again, yet.

What about you? Do you have any Genius maps you're doing?
 Quoting: U3


Of course the Genie is always at play...
(more on this later)

Have you ever considered 'it worked' to bring you a more relative representation of the representation to "bring Chaol back"?
Now all you have to do is interact with it, which you are doing now. Or are you? Haha
 Quoting: Ordoz II




Yes, I would like to know more about the Genie always at play. How much later before you share on it? :)

I see that my Genius worked even with the problem. I'll be glad to look at what you are trying to point me toward, though. I would like to try again.

I see what you mean about the relative chaol. However, I'm afraid the energy for that interaction has passed. I think I interacted with him once. I"ll go check.

Anyway, after I realized my mistake with the symbol, I found posts between Chaol and Nooch where Nooch had done the same type thing. Chaol told him he would have to start over with a new Genius map and new symbol. So this is where I find myself, now. Trying to figure out how to do it again.

What's your take?
 Quoting: U3


I meant that we are always interacting with 'new' symbols and so the genius is always working, but perhaps you picked up on the coming genius map we'll be working on. Do you see it?

'My take' is this, visit the four houses every day. Follow the code of X, then perhaps eventually you will get "sick" for a couple of weeks and wake up one morning to find a note from yourself.
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Do you know anything about Timbavati, S. Africa?
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No I can't say that I do, are you sure it's in South Africa? What about it...?
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Last one was to bring Chaol back and I did it in the Alternate thread. It worked pretty good considering I messed up the symbol.....but it didn't bring the real Chaol back. I haven't figured out how to do it again, yet.

What about you? Do you have any Genius maps you're doing?
 Quoting: U3


Of course the Genie is always at play...
(more on this later)

Have you ever considered 'it worked' to bring you a more relative representation of the representation to "bring Chaol back"?
Now all you have to do is interact with it, which you are doing now. Or are you? Haha
 Quoting: Ordoz II




Yes, I would like to know more about the Genie always at play. How much later before you share on it? :)

I see that my Genius worked even with the problem. I'll be glad to look at what you are trying to point me toward, though. I would like to try again.

I see what you mean about the relative chaol. However, I'm afraid the energy for that interaction has passed. I think I interacted with him once. I"ll go check.

Anyway, after I realized my mistake with the symbol, I found posts between Chaol and Nooch where Nooch had done the same type thing. Chaol told him he would have to start over with a new Genius map and new symbol. So this is where I find myself, now. Trying to figure out how to do it again.

What's your take?
 Quoting: U3


I meant that we are always interacting with 'new' symbols and so the genius is always working, but perhaps you picked up on the coming genius map we'll be working on. Do you see it?

'My take' is this, visit the four houses every day. Follow the code of X, then perhaps eventually you will get "sick" for a couple of weeks and wake up one morning to find a note from yourself.
 Quoting: Ordoz II




Oh, ok, yes, we are always interacting with new symbols. The thing is, what Chaol taught us is how to manifest what we want with our Genius. No, I don't see the new Genius map we will be working on, but I am ready. Glad for you to take the lead, too. :)

OMG.....lol! I suppose you're telling me the same thing happened to you that happened to Neo?

I do visit the 4 houses....not sure about following the code of X. What's that?
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Do you know anything about Timbavati, S. Africa?
 Quoting: U3


No I can't say that I do, are you sure it's in South Africa? What about it...?
There were tremors yestermorning in the heart of RSA. I'm not pointing any fingers (Sekhmet... Or should I say, a BOOK?)
 Quoting: Ordoz II





Yes, I'm sure it's in S. Africa. It's an interesting area....first life found there (pre-ameobic), the white lions are from there and the first one returned back to it's homeland was born Christmas Day, 2000 in Bethlehem, S. Africa. There's more....search white lion in GLP's search.


heart of RSA? You mean USA?

Which book? You are as cryptic as Chaol!!!!!
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Of course the Genie is always at play...
(more on this later)

Have you ever considered 'it worked' to bring you a more relative representation of the representation to "bring Chaol back"?
Now all you have to do is interact with it, which you are doing now. Or are you? Haha
 Quoting: Ordoz II




Yes, I would like to know more about the Genie always at play. How much later before you share on it? :)

I see that my Genius worked even with the problem. I'll be glad to look at what you are trying to point me toward, though. I would like to try again.

I see what you mean about the relative chaol. However, I'm afraid the energy for that interaction has passed. I think I interacted with him once. I"ll go check.

Anyway, after I realized my mistake with the symbol, I found posts between Chaol and Nooch where Nooch had done the same type thing. Chaol told him he would have to start over with a new Genius map and new symbol. So this is where I find myself, now. Trying to figure out how to do it again.

What's your take?
 Quoting: U3


I meant that we are always interacting with 'new' symbols and so the genius is always working, but perhaps you picked up on the coming genius map we'll be working on. Do you see it?

'My take' is this, visit the four houses every day. Follow the code of X, then perhaps eventually you will get "sick" for a couple of weeks and wake up one morning to find a note from yourself.
 Quoting: Ordoz II




Oh, ok, yes, we are always interacting with new symbols. The thing is, what Chaol taught us is how to manifest what we want with our Genius. No, I don't see the new Genius map we will be working on, but I am ready. Glad for you to take the lead, too. :)

OMG.....lol! I suppose you're telling me the same thing happened to you that happened to Neo?

I do visit the 4 houses....not sure about following the code of X. What's that?
 Quoting: U3


Perhaps I've already said too much, haha.
We're interacting right now, did you notice any other 'new' representations in your perspective besides 'me' ?
Maybe some structure will make it more apparent

And it sounds like you're doing a great job, keep at it! The bridge is built but there is no sidewalk. Those who don't feel like driving and those with no licenses are counting on yoUS !
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Do you know anything about Timbavati, S. Africa?
 Quoting: U3


No I can't say that I do, are you sure it's in South Africa? What about it...?
There were tremors yestermorning in the heart of RSA. I'm not pointing any fingers (Sekhmet... Or should I say, a BOOK?)
 Quoting: Ordoz II





Yes, I'm sure it's in S. Africa. It's an interesting area....first life found there (pre-ameobic), the white lions are from there and the first one returned back to it's homeland was born Christmas Day, 2000 in Bethlehem, S. Africa. There's more....search white lion in GLP's search.


heart of RSA? You mean USA?

Which book? You are as cryptic as Chaol!!!!!
 Quoting: U3


That does sound interesting! I'll look into it...
I'm currently in South Africa so maybe I'll even go down to check it out.
RSA being the Republic of South Africa (the corporation under which the US is buying the country with)
:) Hey if I wasn't cryptic you wouldn't have to figure stuff out haha I think it's better this way, fun fun fun !
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No, no, no! You have not said too much!!!!!!!

Please, more data!!!!!! :)



New representations besides you? Are you talking about in the thread, on GLP, dreamtime or life?

To answer...no new ones in the thread, new ones in GLP but that's another story...after all, it's a big forum, pretty easy to find a new representation. Real life, no but more interaction with one fairly new one and yes, a new one in dreamtime.

So, what do you suggest for structure to make it more apparent? I feel like you know something I don't!



Interesting comment about those who don't feel like driving etc are counting on us. What do you sense? (PM me if you want...I can open a PM but I can't send one. Send an email address if you want!)

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Do you know anything about Timbavati, S. Africa?
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No I can't say that I do, are you sure it's in South Africa? What about it...?
There were tremors yestermorning in the heart of RSA. I'm not pointing any fingers (Sekhmet... Or should I say, a BOOK?)
 Quoting: Ordoz II





Yes, I'm sure it's in S. Africa. It's an interesting area....first life found there (pre-ameobic), the white lions are from there and the first one returned back to it's homeland was born Christmas Day, 2000 in Bethlehem, S. Africa. There's more....search white lion in GLP's search.


heart of RSA? You mean USA?

Which book? You are as cryptic as Chaol!!!!!
 Quoting: U3


That does sound interesting! I'll look into it...
I'm currently in South Africa so maybe I'll even go down to check it out.
RSA being the Republic of South Africa (the corporation under which the US is buying the country with)
:) Hey if I wasn't cryptic you wouldn't have to figure stuff out haha I think it's better this way, fun fun fun !
 Quoting: Ordoz II




Oh my gosh....how far are you from that area? There is so much there. Here's my thread on it Thread: White Lions: Sacred animal in a sacred land

Oh please, give me more hints, then! Geez! If you want me to work for it, you gotta give better clues....like stair steps!!! I don't know how to put together tremors in S Africa with Sekhmet and a book???????




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Return of the Gods, who said they left?
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Return of the Gods, who said they left?
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Glad to see you are still around, LeKing.

Here is something that I was reading just tonight:

Hi Choal,


Some time ago their was an instruction manual going around the internet on how to create something from nothing which they called light encoding reality matrix.

It used an algorithm sequence

You must use some music or audio tones by humming or in your head through the entire sequence

Mental image of object
feeling the physical of the object using full body
declare ownership of object
ask universe to co-operate in creating the object
and when this is done you have to self generate a burst of vacuum energy from your own cells to bring it in to reality.


Q1. Is creating something instantaneously from nothing possible using the ecsys or ec model?

Q2. If so, is there set algorithm/model or ec set to achieve this? and how far away are we from the release?


Q2. i have tried to calculate the elements involved in the above algorithm but i still have trouble identifying some, can you help?
 Quoting: Vegatech


Greetings!

I don't know anything about this "light encoding reality matrix" but it sounds as implausible as Ecsys if not more so, especially the part where you self-generate a burst of vacuum energy (whatever that means).

Last time I self-generated a burst of vacuum energy my mommy wasn't too pleased!

Ecsys is not about creating anything, but more about changing perspective. (Or, better yet, making some things more relative to your focus than others.) You can't create something that is already there.

Using Ecsys you can generate a map to what you want to perceive, so to speak. The more relative it is from where you are, the sooner it would seem to 'appear'.

Ecsys is more the "language of the gods", if you will, or the language of consciousness.

We can use an English model (a group of words, for example) in a restaurant to "manifest" a milkshake in our perspective. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative want we want is from where we are (e.g., "does the restaurant serve milkshakes?")

Similarly, we can use Ecsys to "manifest" anything that can be perceived. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative it is from where we are. However, as Ecsys is more fundamental to the workings of perception it (or its effect) will most likely "appear" sooner in your reality.

Even more fundamental is the model that what is known as the dream state uses. Consider Ecsys one of the bridge languages from here to there.

When you are looking at a milkshake what you are experiencing is a representation of the milkshake as it interacts with your consciousness, not the actual milkshake. (Just like when you are talking on the phone or looking at someone, you are not perceiving them directly but interacting with their representation as sound waves or photons, respectively.)

Any model that ignores the value of these representations probably isn't a model that you want to go out with.

The next release would probably generate more of a "WTF?" than a "WOW!" but once the grand scheme is understood then more use can be made of it.

It's more of a blend of "periodic table of consciousness" + "laws of the gods" than a step-by-step guide. However, it also contains what is called the law of 5/2, or energy perspective. It is the most fundamental law in the universe. (Although there are no laws, per se. The structure of consciousness is the law itself.)

It contains everything you need to do anything you can imagine. It has an interesting "child-proof" design and is wrapped in an amusing package that is its own strength mechanism. Mickey Mouse needs no defense.

I'm aiming for a partial release on November 23, 2010, with the game and mental computer instructions to come a bit after (although any wise person could easily figure this out from looking at Ec).

Regarding your other question about calculating some of the elements, what can I help you with?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 13)


I swear there are things in this thread that I never saw before. Five years later, and I am slapping my head with understanding. I don't know how I missed some of this stuff!

Did you know that each Ec character alone can describe 66 states? I do not recall ever having seen that before. I have defined dozens of neuronicons by writing out one a day and then seeing what happens. There is usually at least one experience somewhere that connects directly to the icon that I am practicing with, and I use that experience to define it. But, 66 states for each one? This is, like, a never ending process for me.

Apparently, it will be a while yet before I get to be a god.
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I swear there are things in this thread that I never saw before. Five years later, and I am slapping my head with understanding. I don't know how I missed some of this stuff!

Did you know that each Ec character alone can describe 66 states? I do not recall ever having seen that before. I have defined dozens of neuronicons by writing out one a day and then seeing what happens. There is usually at least one experience somewhere that connects directly to the icon that I am practicing with, and I use that experience to define it. But, 66 states for each one? This is, like, a never ending process for me.

Apparently, it will be a while yet before I get to be a god.
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Here is the part I read a couple days ago that caused me such dismay:

-'password provided to a person's possible perspective' because each character of Ec has up to 66 possibilities. 4 of them together can provide representative fields for nearly 19 million possibilities. (Which is why I mentioned "a piece of paper that performs the same function as a galaxy filled with supercomputers" because a page of Ec can both hold an extraordinary amount of data and function as a computer.)
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 11)

I think I now understand what this means. There are 66 neuronicons. If you have defined one icon, then each of the other 65 can further define the first one.

I have been doing this with pairs, but had not considered refining a lone icon with each of the other 65.

As an example, my favorite icon lately has been the one that sounds like "y", as in "yes". It is neutral symbol/strong possibility. I have had several interesting experiences with it, and have thus defined it as "discovery". The neutral symbol would be a common object or situation in which I suddenly see something special and/or useful about it (strong possibility).

Then, I defined the -S+L icon as "inventiveness or fantasizing". It makes the sound "s", as in "casual".

When I pair "y" with "s", I find common objects or situations that are full of newly-seen potential, and that potential takes me off into hours of daydreaming.

Making some of the sounds in sequence reminds me of an old-fashioned vinyl record being played backwards. I experimented with an Ec string with the sounds "y-s-z-e". Try saying that one out loud!

I have defined the "z" (as in "zoo") icon as "meh". lol. That is low symbol/neutral logic. I use it as representation for something that doesn't bother me or interest me. It even sounds like snoring (z-z-z-z).

I have defined the "e" (as in "men") icon as "something that is just there". It is neutral symbol/low symbol. It is something that my gaze passes over; I hardly notice it. I never really think about it. It is something that is nearly irrelevant to me. There is no interaction, no possibility, and no logic.

There are a bunch more that I have defined and use. I just wanted to comment on the "66 possibilities for each character". After I first read that, I felt my shoulders droop because I was so far behind in understanding Ec. But, then, I realized how it could be done and that I was already doing it, and how it now looks like a fun thing to do.
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I trust you'll pardon my absence folks, I've been very "busy" ..
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Return of the Gods, who said they left?
 Quoting: RE_LKing

Glad to see you are still around, LeKing.

Here is something that I was reading just tonight:

Hi Choal,


Some time ago their was an instruction manual going around the internet on how to create something from nothing which they called light encoding reality matrix.

It used an algorithm sequence

You must use some music or audio tones by humming or in your head through the entire sequence

Mental image of object
feeling the physical of the object using full body
declare ownership of object
ask universe to co-operate in creating the object
and when this is done you have to self generate a burst of vacuum energy from your own cells to bring it in to reality.


Q1. Is creating something instantaneously from nothing possible using the ecsys or ec model?

Q2. If so, is there set algorithm/model or ec set to achieve this? and how far away are we from the release?


Q2. i have tried to calculate the elements involved in the above algorithm but i still have trouble identifying some, can you help?
 Quoting: Vegatech


Greetings!

I don't know anything about this "light encoding reality matrix" but it sounds as implausible as Ecsys if not more so, especially the part where you self-generate a burst of vacuum energy (whatever that means).

Last time I self-generated a burst of vacuum energy my mommy wasn't too pleased!

Ecsys is not about creating anything, but more about changing perspective. (Or, better yet, making some things more relative to your focus than others.) You can't create something that is already there.

Using Ecsys you can generate a map to what you want to perceive, so to speak. The more relative it is from where you are, the sooner it would seem to 'appear'.

Ecsys is more the "language of the gods", if you will, or the language of consciousness.

We can use an English model (a group of words, for example) in a restaurant to "manifest" a milkshake in our perspective. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative want we want is from where we are (e.g., "does the restaurant serve milkshakes?")

Similarly, we can use Ecsys to "manifest" anything that can be perceived. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative it is from where we are. However, as Ecsys is more fundamental to the workings of perception it (or its effect) will most likely "appear" sooner in your reality.

Even more fundamental is the model that what is known as the dream state uses. Consider Ecsys one of the bridge languages from here to there.

When you are looking at a milkshake what you are experiencing is a representation of the milkshake as it interacts with your consciousness, not the actual milkshake. (Just like when you are talking on the phone or looking at someone, you are not perceiving them directly but interacting with their representation as sound waves or photons, respectively.)

Any model that ignores the value of these representations probably isn't a model that you want to go out with.

The next release would probably generate more of a "WTF?" than a "WOW!" but once the grand scheme is understood then more use can be made of it.

It's more of a blend of "periodic table of consciousness" "laws of the gods" than a step-by-step guide. However, it also contains what is called the law of 5/2, or energy perspective. It is the most fundamental law in the universe. (Although there are no laws, per se. The structure of consciousness is the law itself.)

It contains everything you need to do anything you can imagine. It has an interesting "child-proof" design and is wrapped in an amusing package that is its own strength mechanism. Mickey Mouse needs no defense.

I'm aiming for a partial release on November 23, 2010, with the game and mental computer instructions to come a bit after (although any wise person could easily figure this out from looking at Ec).

Regarding your other question about calculating some of the elements, what can I help you with?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 13)

I swear there are things in this thread that I never saw before. Five years later, and I am slapping my head with understanding. I don't know how I missed some of this stuff!

Did you know that each Ec character alone can describe 66 states? I do not recall ever having seen that before. I have defined dozens of neuronicons by writing out one a day and then seeing what happens. There is usually at least one experience somewhere that connects directly to the icon that I am practicing with, and I use that experience to define it. But, 66 states for each one? This is, like, a never ending process for me.

Apparently, it will be a while yet before I get to be a god.
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Return of the Gods, who said they left?
 Quoting: RE_LKing

Glad to see you are still around, LeKing.

Here is something that I was reading just tonight:

Hi Choal,


Some time ago their was an instruction manual going around the internet on how to create something from nothing which they called light encoding reality matrix.

It used an algorithm sequence

You must use some music or audio tones by humming or in your head through the entire sequence

Mental image of object
feeling the physical of the object using full body
declare ownership of object
ask universe to co-operate in creating the object
and when this is done you have to self generate a burst of vacuum energy from your own cells to bring it in to reality.


Q1. Is creating something instantaneously from nothing possible using the ecsys or ec model?

Q2. If so, is there set algorithm/model or ec set to achieve this? and how far away are we from the release?


Q2. i have tried to calculate the elements involved in the above algorithm but i still have trouble identifying some, can you help?
 Quoting: Vegatech


Greetings!

I don't know anything about this "light encoding reality matrix" but it sounds as implausible as Ecsys if not more so, especially the part where you self-generate a burst of vacuum energy (whatever that means).

Last time I self-generated a burst of vacuum energy my mommy wasn't too pleased!

Ecsys is not about creating anything, but more about changing perspective. (Or, better yet, making some things more relative to your focus than others.) You can't create something that is already there.

Using Ecsys you can generate a map to what you want to perceive, so to speak. The more relative it is from where you are, the sooner it would seem to 'appear'.

Ecsys is more the "language of the gods", if you will, or the language of consciousness.

We can use an English model (a group of words, for example) in a restaurant to "manifest" a milkshake in our perspective. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative want we want is from where we are (e.g., "does the restaurant serve milkshakes?")

Similarly, we can use Ecsys to "manifest" anything that can be perceived. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative it is from where we are. However, as Ecsys is more fundamental to the workings of perception it (or its effect) will most likely "appear" sooner in your reality.

Even more fundamental is the model that what is known as the dream state uses. Consider Ecsys one of the bridge languages from here to there.

When you are looking at a milkshake what you are experiencing is a representation of the milkshake as it interacts with your consciousness, not the actual milkshake. (Just like when you are talking on the phone or looking at someone, you are not perceiving them directly but interacting with their representation as sound waves or photons, respectively.)

Any model that ignores the value of these representations probably isn't a model that you want to go out with.

The next release would probably generate more of a "WTF?" than a "WOW!" but once the grand scheme is understood then more use can be made of it.

It's more of a blend of "periodic table of consciousness" "laws of the gods" than a step-by-step guide. However, it also contains what is called the law of 5/2, or energy perspective. It is the most fundamental law in the universe. (Although there are no laws, per se. The structure of consciousness is the law itself.)

It contains everything you need to do anything you can imagine. It has an interesting "child-proof" design and is wrapped in an amusing package that is its own strength mechanism. Mickey Mouse needs no defense.

I'm aiming for a partial release on November 23, 2010, with the game and mental computer instructions to come a bit after (although any wise person could easily figure this out from looking at Ec).

Regarding your other question about calculating some of the elements, what can I help you with?

Thanks.
 Quoting: Chaol 1117976


Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 13)

I swear there are things in this thread that I never saw before. Five years later, and I am slapping my head with understanding. I don't know how I missed some of this stuff!

Did you know that each Ec character alone can describe 66 states? I do not recall ever having seen that before. I have defined dozens of neuronicons by writing out one a day and then seeing what happens. There is usually at least one experience somewhere that connects directly to the icon that I am practicing with, and I use that experience to define it. But, 66 states for each one? This is, like, a never ending process for me.

Apparently, it will be a while yet before I get to be a god.
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I've actually studied the LERM essays and monograph, it's quite advanced but it works (it's actually not so advanced at all).. Though I've only been able to LERM experiences rather than physical objects.

I'll be experimenting with using X along with it and see what happens!
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I trust you'll pardon my absence folks, I've been very "busy" ..
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TeeHee! Welcome back....and no surprise considering what's happening. Wheeeeeeee!
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I've actually studied the LERM essays and monograph, it's quite advanced but it works (it's actually not so advanced at all).. Though I've only been able to LERM experiences rather than physical objects.

I'll be experimenting with using X along with it and see what happens!
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Do you have a link for the LERM material? I have already read the Wingmakers website, so I am asking for material that is separate from the site. Thanks.
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I've actually studied the LERM essays and monograph, it's quite advanced but it works (it's actually not so advanced at all).. Though I've only been able to LERM experiences rather than physical objects.

I'll be experimenting with using X along with it and see what happens!
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Do you have a link for the LERM material? I have already read the Wingmakers website, so I am asking for material that is separate from the site. Thanks.
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Which Wingmakers? There are 2....one is James and the other is out of NZ... [link to www.wingmakers.co.nz]
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I've actually studied the LERM essays and monograph, it's quite advanced but it works (it's actually not so advanced at all).. Though I've only been able to LERM experiences rather than physical objects.

I'll be experimenting with using X along with it and see what happens!
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Do you have a link for the LERM material? I have already read the Wingmakers website, so I am asking for material that is separate from the site. Thanks.
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Which Wingmakers? There are 2....one is James and the other is out of NZ... [link to www.wingmakers.co.nz]
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No links at hand sorry, but I have the monograph (it's different from the online essays) I could email to you - although you could look into the LPG; liphe physics group - apparently that's all they study these days.

And yes, there are two Wingmakers but I don't believe Neruda covers much of LERM on their material other than the Interview where he LERMs some thread. The New Zealand WM was put together by a friend of mine, Derryn, though now the site belongs to his ex wife (drama to convince themselves they exist I suppose) the information on there is useful nonetheless, it merely simplifies the process.
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TY, Ordoz!!!

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I'm not pointing any fingers (Sekhmet... Or should I say, a BOOK?)
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Which book? You are as cryptic as Chaol!!!!!
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I remember the book:

I will try again with something different, can you suggest anything? Will a statue of Jesus on the cross work?
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I can try to find something that may work for you if you'd like.
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Ok please do, but only if you have time. Thank You
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Try a thick, antique book with a 4-point pyramid on the cover. The pyramid has 3 circles with an additional circle in the center.

There is also a blue silk fabric, marking a certain page inside the book.

Visualize the book with the emblem on the cover first. Once you're comfortable with this find a place inside the book, between the pages. Then, open the book with your right hand.

If the book opens fully without shifting your perspective, begin to read it.

This should take you inside of a house where there are chairs. It most likely will not be the same as others' experiences but surely we can converse, regardless.

Please let me know of your experience.
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I'm not pointing any fingers (Sekhmet... Or should I say, a BOOK?)
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Which book? You are as cryptic as Chaol!!!!!
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I remember the book:

...

I can try to find something that may work for you if you'd like.
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Ok please do, but only if you have time. Thank You
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Try a thick, antique book with a 4-point pyramid on the cover. The pyramid has 3 circles with an additional circle in the center.

There is also a blue silk fabric, marking a certain page inside the book.

Visualize the book with the emblem on the cover first. Once you're comfortable with this find a place inside the book, between the pages. Then, open the book with your right hand.

If the book opens fully without shifting your perspective, begin to read it.

This should take you inside of a house where there are chairs. It most likely will not be the same as others' experiences but surely we can converse, regardless.

Please let me know of your experience.
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Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality (Page 18)
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For gosh sakes! I missed seeing that post. THANK YOU. hf

Okay, the clues were, book, Sekhmet and tremors in S. Africa!?????????

If S. Africa is indeed the birthplace of earth's "life", then the tremors there may indeed be the beginning of the merge of Earth and Chaol's earth!

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I meant that we are always interacting with 'new' symbols and so the genius is always working, but perhaps you picked up on the coming genius map we'll be working on. Do you see it?
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I think I know what the new Genius map is about: it is about bright red pants and shiny white shoes; it is about a carnival, a bazaar in a dream room; it is about doing mid-air somersaults in the rays of the sun; it is about UFOs sighted during gala fireworks. I think it is about

If this "manifestation" as "colourful orbs" means fireworks or balloons or something comparably lame, I would say that your entertainment value is becoming feather lite. ;-)
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Seems like a prediction ;)

Or is it an observation?

I anticipate clowns, sparkles, kiddie pools, and party favours. Why not tune in to that excitement?
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I think this is the why of coloring books and riding bicycles and sewing up wonderful, flowing dresses in sparkly chiffon. I am not just going senile. I think this is why I wake up in the middle of the night and have to have a Barbie doll.
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It is time-consuming to search for these quotes by Chaol, but I want to post a snippet of something that I kept in a file. I have so looked forward to what it promises, and I am now wondering if it is finally here?

I honestly feel like I've gone through hell and it is now all over with.

_________

When things seem distressed or like there is no hope left in humanity, or when it appears your government is doing things it should not, when all manner of hell seems to break loose...

It may seem like the wrong time to think about the big picture. Or feel difficult to think of that being a part of your perspective. Essentially, your self illustrated.

You are your perspective, yes. But your perspective is everything that exists. This includes things that you love, like, dislike, hate, and everything in between.

The old physicality will 'put up a fight' but this is an illustration of a dying perspective. It's kind of like a bug shaking violently before its death. It may seem like it has a surge of power or is stronger physically but this is the storm before the calm. A way for it to define itself in your perspective. Crossing the Ts and dotting the Is before the final chapter.

See yourself in the world around you, no matter what that world becomes, and fear shall be irrelevant.

And the new perspective will be as fresh as a spring's summer for the first time.
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I appreciate all the posts you find.....you are very good at finding the exact one.

I love that perspective and it's working its way into my life....or shall I say, I'm working it into my life! whooHoo!
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I've actually studied the LERM essays and monograph, it's quite advanced but it works (it's actually not so advanced at all).. Though I've only been able to LERM experiences rather than physical objects.

I'll be experimenting with using X along with it and see what happens!
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Do you have a link for the LERM material? I have already read the Wingmakers website, so I am asking for material that is separate from the site. Thanks.
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Which Wingmakers? There are 2....one is James and the other is out of NZ... [link to www.wingmakers.co.nz]
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No links at hand sorry, but I have the monograph (it's different from the online essays) I could email to you - although you could look into the LPG; liphe physics group - apparently that's all they study these days.

And yes, there are two Wingmakers but I don't believe Neruda covers much of LERM on their material other than the Interview where he LERMs some thread. The New Zealand WM was put together by a friend of mine, Derryn, though now the site belongs to his ex wife (drama to convince themselves they exist I suppose) the information on there is useful nonetheless, it merely simplifies the process.
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Ordoz, I wonder if I could get that monograph from you? I have always been fascinated by Dr. Neruda's talks. He says that it would take only a few intensive days of training to learn LERM. I have always waited and watched for further information. Maybe you are the one that has it?

I have created an email account specifically for you. It is

my AC user number
at
angelic
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com

This is a single-use account only. I will probably close it after receiving the monograph.

I do not wish to impose on you, so please take your time. But, I AM interested in what you have and am very grateful for your sharing it with me.

Have you also read the Fifth Interview that was recently released? What did you think of it? Chaol told us that we have become artificial intelligence because of our use of tools outside of ourselves. I tell ya, ever since reading the Fifth Interview, I have been trying to use mental tools as much as possible. It scared me!

__________________________

(For those not familiar with the Dr. Neruda interviews, here are a couple excerpts describing LERM. "Fifteen" is the head of a group of researchers.)

Dr. Neruda: "Remember what I said earlier about quantum objects and how they're influenced by consciousness?"

Sarah: "Yes."

Dr. Neruda: "Quantum objects become increasingly granular or refined until they become pure light energy and cease to have mass. They are not of physical reality, but rather of a pure-state energy. This energy is further segmented into octaves of vibration. In other words, this light energy vibrates, and just like music, there are fundamentals and harmonics. The harmonics resonate with the fundamental energy vibration and the whole energy packet sings like a choir--except its voice is light.

"This singing, if you will, is the equivalent of a consciousness that pervades all matter--every physical object in the entire universe. Fifteen has successfully proven this all-pervasive consciousness or what he calls the Light-Encoded Reality Matrix or LERM, for those of us who like shorthand. Any way, LERM is just one of the new theorems that were required in order to devise a way to prove that BST [*explained below] was indeed a possibility, and not just a fanciful vision inside the mind of Fifteen."

....

*Sarah: "Why was he so interested in time travel?"

Dr. Neruda: "No one is absolutely sure. And his reasons may have changed over time. The accepted purpose was to develop Blank Slate Technology or BST. BST is a form of time travel that enables the re-write of history at what are called intervention points. Intervention points are the causal energy centers that create a major event like the break-up of the Soviet Union or the NASA space program.


From the First Interview with Dr. Neruda
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Do you have a link for the LERM material? I have already read the Wingmakers website, so I am asking for material that is separate from the site. Thanks.
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Which Wingmakers? There are 2....one is James and the other is out of NZ... [link to www.wingmakers.co.nz]
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No links at hand sorry, but I have the monograph (it's different from the online essays) I could email to you - although you could look into the LPG; liphe physics group - apparently that's all they study these days.

And yes, there are two Wingmakers but I don't believe Neruda covers much of LERM on their material other than the Interview where he LERMs some thread. The New Zealand WM was put together by a friend of mine, Derryn, though now the site belongs to his ex wife (drama to convince themselves they exist I suppose) the information on there is useful nonetheless, it merely simplifies the process.
 Quoting: Ordoz II

Ordoz, I wonder if I could get that monograph from you? I have always been fascinated by Dr. Neruda's talks. He says that it would take only a few intensive days of training to learn LERM. I have always waited and watched for further information. Maybe you are the one that has it?

I have created an email account specifically for you. It is

my AC user number
at
angelic
.
com

This is a single-use account only. I will probably close it after receiving the monograph.

I do not wish to impose on you, so please take your time. But, I AM interested in what you have and am very grateful for your sharing it with me.

Have you also read the Fifth Interview that was recently released? What did you think of it? Chaol told us that we have become artificial intelligence because of our use of tools outside of ourselves. I tell ya, ever since reading the Fifth Interview, I have been trying to use mental tools as much as possible. It scared me!

__________________________

(For those not familiar with the Dr. Neruda interviews, here are a couple excerpts describing LERM. "Fifteen" is the head of a group of researchers.)

Dr. Neruda: "Remember what I said earlier about quantum objects and how they're influenced by consciousness?"

Sarah: "Yes."

Dr. Neruda: "Quantum objects become increasingly granular or refined until they become pure light energy and cease to have mass. They are not of physical reality, but rather of a pure-state energy. This energy is further segmented into octaves of vibration. In other words, this light energy vibrates, and just like music, there are fundamentals and harmonics. The harmonics resonate with the fundamental energy vibration and the whole energy packet sings like a choir--except its voice is light.

"This singing, if you will, is the equivalent of a consciousness that pervades all matter--every physical object in the entire universe. Fifteen has successfully proven this all-pervasive consciousness or what he calls the Light-Encoded Reality Matrix or LERM, for those of us who like shorthand. Any way, LERM is just one of the new theorems that were required in order to devise a way to prove that BST [*explained below] was indeed a possibility, and not just a fanciful vision inside the mind of Fifteen."

....

*Sarah: "Why was he so interested in time travel?"

Dr. Neruda: "No one is absolutely sure. And his reasons may have changed over time. The accepted purpose was to develop Blank Slate Technology or BST. BST is a form of time travel that enables the re-write of history at what are called intervention points. Intervention points are the causal energy centers that create a major event like the break-up of the Soviet Union or the NASA space program.


From the First Interview with Dr. Neruda
[link to www.wingmakers.com (secure)]
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I had an experience of the whole Universe as musical notes. It was an entire symphony and I was a single note among no telling how many others. And, if I chose to, I could step out of the symphony and be in "spirit" form or stay there. It was so beautiful, I didn't really want to leave but I was enjoying seeing what all I could experience, too!
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Return of the Gods, who said they left?
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Glad to see you are still around, LeKing.

Here is something that I was reading just tonight:

Hi Choal,


Some time ago their was an instruction manual going around the internet on how to create something from nothing which they called light encoding reality matrix.

It used an algorithm sequence

You must use some music or audio tones by humming or in your head through the entire sequence

Mental image of object
feeling the physical of the object using full body
declare ownership of object
ask universe to co-operate in creating the object
and when this is done you have to self generate a burst of vacuum energy from your own cells to bring it in to reality.


Q1. Is creating something instantaneously from nothing possible using the ecsys or ec model?

Q2. If so, is there set algorithm/model or ec set to achieve this? and how far away are we from the release?


Q2. i have tried to calculate the elements involved in the above algorithm but i still have trouble identifying some, can you help?
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Greetings!

I don't know anything about this "light encoding reality matrix" but it sounds as implausible as Ecsys if not more so, especially the part where you self-generate a burst of vacuum energy (whatever that means).

Last time I self-generated a burst of vacuum energy my mommy wasn't too pleased!

Ecsys is not about creating anything, but more about changing perspective. (Or, better yet, making some things more relative to your focus than others.) You can't create something that is already there.

Using Ecsys you can generate a map to what you want to perceive, so to speak. The more relative it is from where you are, the sooner it would seem to 'appear'.

Ecsys is more the "language of the gods", if you will, or the language of consciousness.

We can use an English model (a group of words, for example) in a restaurant to "manifest" a milkshake in our perspective. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative want we want is from where we are (e.g., "does the restaurant serve milkshakes?")

Similarly, we can use Ecsys to "manifest" anything that can be perceived. Its appearance in our reality correlates with how relative it is from where we are. However, as Ecsys is more fundamental to the workings of perception it (or its effect) will most likely "appear" sooner in your reality.

Even more fundamental is the model that what is known as the dream state uses. Consider Ecsys one of the bridge languages from here to there.

When you are looking at a milkshake what you are experiencing is a representation of the milkshake as it interacts with your consciousness, not the actual milkshake. (Just like when you are talking on the phone or looking at someone, you are not perceiving them directly but interacting with their representation as sound waves or photons, respectively.)

Any model that ignores the value of these representations probably isn't a model that you want to go out with.

The next release would probably generate more of a "WTF?" than a "WOW!" but once the grand scheme is understood then more use can be made of it.

It's more of a blend of "periodic table of consciousness" + "laws of the gods" than a step-by-step guide. However, it also contains what is called the law of 5/2, or energy perspective. It is the most fundamental law in the universe. (Although there are no laws, per se. The structure of consciousness is the law itself.)

It contains everything you need to do anything you can imagine. It has an interesting "child-proof" design and is wrapped in an amusing package that is its own strength mechanism. Mickey Mouse needs no defense.

I'm aiming for a partial release on November 23, 2010, with the game and mental computer instructions to come a bit after (although any wise person could easily figure this out from looking at Ec).

Regarding your other question about calculating some of the elements, what can I help you with?

Thanks.
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I swear there are things in this thread that I never saw before. Five years later, and I am slapping my head with understanding. I don't know how I missed some of this stuff!

Did you know that each Ec character alone can describe 66 states? I do not recall ever having seen that before. I have defined dozens of neuronicons by writing out one a day and then seeing what happens. There is usually at least one experience somewhere that connects directly to the icon that I am practicing with, and I use that experience to define it. But, 66 states for each one? This is, like, a never ending process for me.

Apparently, it will be a while yet before I get to be a god.
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Define while?
Besides, only hard work makes gods, and I have absolute faith you are not afraid of that. god mode here you come.
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Apparently, it will be a while yet before I get to be a god.
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Define while?
Besides, only hard work makes gods, and I have absolute faith you are not afraid of that. god mode here you come.
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My apologies, LeKing, for not seeing your post earlier. I was [b*n*d] sometime mid-September.

If there is a god of discernment/inability-to-discern, then I might be the one filling that slot.

As far as I can tell, the hardest work is 1.) letting go of what you thought was real; and 2.) keeping your focus on what you want.

Something that I have decided is that I want to be around people who are supportive. I seem to always attract the "users", and they wear me down. Congratulations, LeKing, for being the first person in my world to show encouragement and support. I truly appreciate your words.

I have been getting much, much better at manipulating the dream. Today, after decades of tiresome drama, I have been able to make irrelevant a "bad apple" that has been a bane in my life. When the realization hit me that he is really gone for good this time, I wept with joy. I made a decision, used all of Chaol's advice, and now I am standing in a perspective that makes me very happy.

Ecsys works.
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My apologies, LeKing, for not seeing your post earlier. I was [b*n*d] sometime mid-September.

If there is a god of discernment/inability-to-discern, then I might be the one filling that slot.

As far as I can tell, the hardest work is 1.) letting go of what you thought was real; and 2.) keeping your focus on what you want.

Something that I have decided is that I want to be around people who are supportive. I seem to always attract the "users", and they wear me down. Congratulations, LeKing, for being the first person in my world to show encouragement and support. I truly appreciate your words.

I have been getting much, much better at manipulating the dream. Today, after decades of tiresome drama, I have been able to make irrelevant a "bad apple" that has been a bane in my life. When the realization hit me that he is really gone for good this time, I wept with joy. I made a decision, used all of Chaol's advice, and now I am standing in a perspective that makes me very happy.

Ecsys works.
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Everything happens when it is most relative/logical! So No apologies required.

We are agreed on the hardest work being the ability to let go of what you thought was real. De-programming or what ever, the subconscious sure puts up a fight to avoid the nothing.

Like attracts like! Or a certain input attracts and makes relative a certain output, following the neuroniconics logic. As long as you stay supportive of your self, your other selves will stay supportive.

You are very welcome for the support of course, this is one of the btter threads in my opinion, the more like minded individuals posting the better for us all!

Ecsys undoubtedly works, you just have to look at it from a different point of view....a few times lol.
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