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Notes from an "alternate universe": July 18, 2012 - The Return of the Gods

 
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I felt s/he skipped it so I erased it after waiting another day. Sorry. I don't know this person too well yet so don't want to ask too much.
 Quoting: Unit3


Your post was not skipped in any way.
The posts were being addressed in the same order they were dealt.

In addition, your post raised several questions. It is normal if more words are required to come up with all the answers. Like it has been said, the questions were being digested.

Since i have first posted, no answers have been denied or skipped on any direct question, posed by any citizen.
This is one thing citizens around might already know about me.

This leads to the answer to one of the questions i remember from your post.

If i am correct, you asked why i share my findings about the Logos framework with other citizens.

The answer is pretty simple, yet important.

The Logos framework is not something that most citizens would want to keep for themselves, unless they desire their reality experience to turn into one of a very twisted nature.

A multiverse draw is the perceivable point agreed by all consciousness units who experience the same reality path, which is then demanded to the reality engine.

Understand how interactions between citizens are of great importance to how the draw is shaped, and how the introduction and conjuring of common perceivable objects can drastically shape and alter the way reality appears to citizens who share a multiverse draw.

This is why it can be called a draw, because it is a timeless picture, taken by all citizens who agree on the same reality path.

In other words, the citizen's current reality experience is always the perceivable point in which he positioned himself.

It's also important to remember that there are infinite consciousness units, so there are always citizens who agree with each other to create a reality path (provided that the reality paths respects the rules of the polarized multiverse).

So this is the reason why i share it, mostly because the Logos' brand of thought process is based on increasing Free Will, and is not compatible with the corruption conjured by the dark mind over the lower realms of the multiverse.

The only way to end such corruption is to conjure powerful common perceivable objects, capable of denying the protections installed by the dark mind to deny citizen's Free Will in the lower realms.
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Thank you for clearing this up for me. This is an exciting opportunity for all of us. When I took my post off, I felt I should have read more of the thread before loading you down with questions. After all, you might have answered them already.

Anyway, I've been back reading your first 2 posts again and remembered some of the previous questions. I'll post them as they come rather than overloading you with a ton of them at one time, heh!

1) Both of you (Chaol and yourself) are helping us to upgrade our thought process and for this, I am very grateful. Do you feel the information you are sharing with us compatible with the information Chaol shares with us? How best can we integrate both?

2) The mind offline and online intrigued me. My understanding is that the mind is only at rest when in meditation. Otherwise, it is active. Could you further my understanding of the online/offline brain?

3) What do you feel comprises visualization?

5) You mentioned one of the things we must give up is the mindset of chicken or egg? I am wondering if all the things we think comprise our physicality are included? Such as, eating, breathing, belief in God, reincarnation, reproduction..things like that. Are there mindsets in Chaol's world that would also need to be given up?

6) Is the multiple validation perception point (paraphrase here but where validation comes in infinite ways), is a space one lives in all the time, at a certain point in consciousness or individual evolution? I'm thinking of timelines here but I'm sure there are others.

Thank you
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... Hoping Zulkar will return with some insights.
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1) Both of you (Chaol and yourself) are helping us to upgrade our thought process and for this, I am very grateful. Do you feel the information you are sharing with us compatible with the information Chaol shares with us? How best can we integrate both?

2) The mind offline and online intrigued me. My understanding is that the mind is only at rest when in meditation. Otherwise, it is active. Could you further my understanding of the online/offline brain?

3) What do you feel comprises visualization?

5) You mentioned one of the things we must give up is the mindset of chicken or egg? I am wondering if all the things we think comprise our physicality are included? Such as, eating, breathing, belief in God, reincarnation, reproduction..things like that. Are there mindsets in Chaol's world that would also need to be given up?

6) Is the multiple validation perception point (paraphrase here but where validation comes in infinite ways), is a space one lives in all the time, at a certain point in consciousness or individual evolution? I'm thinking of timelines here but I'm sure there are others.

Thank you
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... Hoping Zulkar will return with some insights.
:)
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Me too. I'm feeling kind of bad that I asked so many. I wonder if I put one question per post if that would help things? I would be glad to do that.
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... Hoping Zulkar will return with some insights.
:)
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Me too. I'm feeling kind of bad that I asked so many. I wonder if I put one question per post if that would help things? I would be glad to do that.
 Quoting: Unit3


Will be posting soon with more information on the questions that have been posed.

There is nothing wrong with the number of questions, in truth it's good for us that you ask freely.

I will try to keep up with what you ask, but if we are looking for good texts(which we are) then it takes some time to develop documents.
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Me too. I'm feeling kind of bad that I asked so many. I wonder if I put one question per post if that would help things? I would be glad to do that.
 Quoting: Unit3


Will be posting soon with more information on the questions that have been posed.

There is nothing wrong with the number of questions, in truth it's good for us that you ask freely.

I will try to keep up with what you ask, but if we are looking for good texts(which we are) then it takes some time to develop documents.
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Okay. If there is anything I can do, let me know. I look forward to your replies.

Thank you
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Thanks Chaol!

I've been reading for a short amount of "time" but I've been waiting on this.....felt like I was missing something but on the verge of something big. I've experienced significant change in my perception in the last 3 years but REALLY so in the last 3 months.

This morning, after reading here (and your other posts as well) for over an hour, I decided to check out ecsys :) I'm not sure what just happened...but for now I'll call it a breakthrough! Now I'm just left with the most profound sense of happiness (or better, my perception of happiness).

I cannot say THANK YOU enough Chaol...you have taken the time to put these complex, genius ideas into ways I could perceive them better :)

I am soo thankful I woke up early this morning and started reading your posts again.
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Thanks Chaol!

I've been reading for a short amount of "time" but I've been waiting on this.....felt like I was missing something but on the verge of something big. I've experienced significant change in my perception in the last 3 years but REALLY so in the last 3 months.

This morning, after reading here (and your other posts as well) for over an hour, I decided to check out ecsys :) I'm not sure what just happened...but for now I'll call it a breakthrough! Now I'm just left with the most profound sense of happiness (or better, my perception of happiness).

I cannot say THANK YOU enough Chaol...you have taken the time to put these complex, genius ideas into ways I could perceive them better :)

I am soo thankful I woke up early this morning and started reading your posts again.
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You are very welcome. I am glad that we are able to work on this together =D
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Okay. If there is anything I can do, let me know. I look forward to your replies.

Thank you
 Quoting: Unit3


I have finished the documents in response to your questions 1 and 2. Question 3 is almost complete as well.

The extensive nature of your questions has brought about one truly humongous post, should i post all answers at the same time.

I am sorry, but i am unable to validate such questions without developing a solid background around the subject, or else i feel i'd be doing more harm than good.

It has been a pleasure to explore such questions (even though i had to stop writing the Revelation document to come up with the answers), and i am quite sure it will be fun for citizens to feel how much of a lifechanger the Logos experience can be.

After reading the answers, which will include some key aspects of the Logos framework, the citizen should be well on his way to embrace the Logos experience, even without reading the Revelation document.

Now the question is: would you prefer to get all the answers at the same time or would you prefer that one document is posted for each question ?

Gamechangers are at hand.
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Okay. If there is anything I can do, let me know. I look forward to your replies.

Thank you
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I have finished the documents in response to your questions 1 and 2. Question 3 is almost complete as well.

The extensive nature of your questions has brought about one truly humongous post, should i post all answers at the same time.

I am sorry, but i am unable to validate such questions without developing a solid background around the subject, or else i feel i'd be doing more harm than good.

It has been a pleasure to explore such questions (even though i had to stop writing the Revelation document to come up with the answers), and i am quite sure it will be fun for citizens to feel how much of a lifechanger the Logos experience can be.

After reading the answers, which will include some key aspects of the Logos framework, the citizen should be well on his way to embrace the Logos experience, even without reading the Revelation document.

Now the question is: would you prefer to get all the answers at the same time or would you prefer that one document is posted for each question ?

Gamechangers are at hand.
 Quoting: Zulkar



Awesome! And, thank you. You are very kind. I can't just read something like what you wrote. I have to immerse myself in it.

I'm thinking we should have a different thread since this is Choal's thread. What do you think? Otherwise, I'd say one question and answer per post. I'm afraid you might run into trouble with the way GLP is set up for posting. I know I have had trouble with it, so let's make it easy on you and everyone.

I'm looking forward to this. Thank you.


Edit: I've just been going through your previous posts in this thread. I didn't realize what an active participant you've been here. So, now I'm not sure if another thread is needed. Maybe Chaol can provide his input?

I dunno, just thinking out loud.

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Okay. If there is anything I can do, let me know. I look forward to your replies.

Thank you
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I have finished the documents in response to your questions 1 and 2. Question 3 is almost complete as well.

The extensive nature of your questions has brought about one truly humongous post, should i post all answers at the same time.

I am sorry, but i am unable to validate such questions without developing a solid background around the subject, or else i feel i'd be doing more harm than good.

It has been a pleasure to explore such questions (even though i had to stop writing the Revelation document to come up with the answers), and i am quite sure it will be fun for citizens to feel how much of a lifechanger the Logos experience can be.

After reading the answers, which will include some key aspects of the Logos framework, the citizen should be well on his way to embrace the Logos experience, even without reading the Revelation document.

Now the question is: would you prefer to get all the answers at the same time or would you prefer that one document is posted for each question ?

Gamechangers are at hand.
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Awesome! And, thank you. You are very kind. I can't just read something like what you wrote. I have to immerse myself in it.

I'm thinking we should have a different thread since this is Choal's thread. What do you think?

Otherwise, I'd say one question and answer per post. I'm afraid you might run into trouble with the way GLP is set up for posting. I know I have had trouble with it, so let's make it easy on you and everyone.

I'm looking forward to this. Thank you.
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Me, too :)
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Okay. If there is anything I can do, let me know. I look forward to your replies.

Thank you
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I have finished the documents in response to your questions 1 and 2. Question 3 is almost complete as well.

The extensive nature of your questions has brought about one truly humongous post, should i post all answers at the same time.

I am sorry, but i am unable to validate such questions without developing a solid background around the subject, or else i feel i'd be doing more harm than good.

It has been a pleasure to explore such questions (even though i had to stop writing the Revelation document to come up with the answers), and i am quite sure it will be fun for citizens to feel how much of a lifechanger the Logos experience can be.

After reading the answers, which will include some key aspects of the Logos framework, the citizen should be well on his way to embrace the Logos experience, even without reading the Revelation document.

Now the question is: would you prefer to get all the answers at the same time or would you prefer that one document is posted for each question ?

Gamechangers are at hand.
 Quoting: Zulkar

Awesome! And, thank you. You are very kind. I can't just read something like what you wrote. I have to immerse myself in it.

I'm thinking we should have a different thread since this is Choal's thread. What do you think? Otherwise, I'd say one question and answer per post. I'm afraid you might run into trouble with the way GLP is set up for posting. I know I have had trouble with it, so let's make it easy on you and everyone.

I'm looking forward to this. Thank you.

Edit: I've just been going through your previous posts in this thread. I didn't realize what an active participant you've been here. So, now I'm not sure if another thread is needed. Maybe Chaol can provide his input?

I dunno, just thinking out loud.
 Quoting: Unit3

It would make sense to create an other thread.
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Okay. If there is anything I can do, let me know. I look forward to your replies.

Thank you
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I have finished the documents in response to your questions 1 and 2. Question 3 is almost complete as well.

The extensive nature of your questions has brought about one truly humongous post, should i post all answers at the same time.

I am sorry, but i am unable to validate such questions without developing a solid background around the subject, or else i feel i'd be doing more harm than good.

It has been a pleasure to explore such questions (even though i had to stop writing the Revelation document to come up with the answers), and i am quite sure it will be fun for citizens to feel how much of a lifechanger the Logos experience can be.

After reading the answers, which will include some key aspects of the Logos framework, the citizen should be well on his way to embrace the Logos experience, even without reading the Revelation document.

Now the question is: would you prefer to get all the answers at the same time or would you prefer that one document is posted for each question ?

Gamechangers are at hand.
 Quoting: Zulkar

Awesome! And, thank you. You are very kind. I can't just read something like what you wrote. I have to immerse myself in it.

I'm thinking we should have a different thread since this is Choal's thread. What do you think? Otherwise, I'd say one question and answer per post. I'm afraid you might run into trouble with the way GLP is set up for posting. I know I have had trouble with it, so let's make it easy on you and everyone.

I'm looking forward to this. Thank you.

Edit: I've just been going through your previous posts in this thread. I didn't realize what an active participant you've been here. So, now I'm not sure if another thread is needed. Maybe Chaol can provide his input?

I dunno, just thinking out loud.
 Quoting: Unit3

It would make sense to create an other thread.
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I lol'd
Consider the possibility that you order yourself into being from chaos... You do this, always, in all ways. This "ordering" has resulted in the possibilities you're experiencing, here, now. In each experience you've ever had, more and more of "this" reality is generated logically from your previous experience. Your observation of this unfolding of order and chaos is reality.
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I have finished the documents in response to your questions 1 and 2. Question 3 is almost complete as well.

The extensive nature of your questions has brought about one truly humongous post, should i post all answers at the same time.

I am sorry, but i am unable to validate such questions without developing a solid background around the subject, or else i feel i'd be doing more harm than good.

It has been a pleasure to explore such questions (even though i had to stop writing the Revelation document to come up with the answers), and i am quite sure it will be fun for citizens to feel how much of a lifechanger the Logos experience can be.

After reading the answers, which will include some key aspects of the Logos framework, the citizen should be well on his way to embrace the Logos experience, even without reading the Revelation document.

Now the question is: would you prefer to get all the answers at the same time or would you prefer that one document is posted for each question ?

Gamechangers are at hand.
 Quoting: Zulkar

Awesome! And, thank you. You are very kind. I can't just read something like what you wrote. I have to immerse myself in it.

I'm thinking we should have a different thread since this is Choal's thread. What do you think? Otherwise, I'd say one question and answer per post. I'm afraid you might run into trouble with the way GLP is set up for posting. I know I have had trouble with it, so let's make it easy on you and everyone.

I'm looking forward to this. Thank you.

Edit: I've just been going through your previous posts in this thread. I didn't realize what an active participant you've been here. So, now I'm not sure if another thread is needed. Maybe Chaol can provide his input?

I dunno, just thinking out loud.
 Quoting: Unit3

It would make sense to create an other thread.
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I lol'd
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Haha, Jesse. Me, too :)

Let me know where it goes, please, Zulkar.
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It would make sense to create an other thread.

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Yes, it makes sense.

The only reason why i have not yet created a new thread again, is because i don't have that much to say about anything on my own.

As questions have been asked directly to me in this thread (regarding some subjects which were related to the original posts), and (until now) the original poster didn't say anything against it, i kept posting around.

It is not my intention to hijack this thread, or disturb your teachings.

Most of my documents are answers to questions which have been posed by other citizens.

In anyways, now that it became so offtopic, i will start a new thread, to provide answers to the questions asked by Unit3.

If you don't mind, i will still post a link to the new thread here, to make it fair for citizens who would like to keep following the Logos experience.


See you all around soon.
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It would make sense to create an other thread.

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Yes, it makes sense.

The only reason why i have not yet created a new thread again, is because i don't have that much to say about anything on my own.

As questions have been asked directly to me in this thread (regarding some subjects which were related to the original posts), and (until now) the original poster didn't say anything against it, i kept posting around.

It is not my intention to hijack this thread, or disturb your teachings.

Most of my documents are answers to questions which have been posed by other citizens.

In anyways, now that it became so offtopic, i will start a new thread, to provide answers to the questions asked by Unit3.

If you don't mind, i will still post a link to the new thread here, to make it fair for citizens who would like to keep following the Logos experience.


See you all around soon.
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Looking forward to your thread :)
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Thanks for all the material Zulkar. I'm the guy from way earlier in the thread (page 15) that had the story about the bottle of scotch whiskey.

Anyways, I have progressed much farther in realizing illusion since I last participated in this thread. I feel like I am just about ready to begin exploiting the reality engine full-time.

Here's my interpretation of things: First of all, I've been working with the Kybalion and the Tree of Life. My breakdown of the emanation is as follows:

The All: Unmanifested

1) Kether: The light, Unity. Duality reconciled.

2) Chokmah: Infinite force, Pure, unrestricted free-will. Logos.

3) Binah: The Dark Mind. Reality engine containing every infinite possibility.

Here we must elaborate. Above is the macrocosmic triad. The Demiurgic force of the Dark Mind which has absolute power over everything. However, through the liberation of our own free will we can manipulate the creational-bargains between these forces. As previously mentioned in the thread, any physicality is an illusion. Everything that is perceptible is an illusion constructed of thought and will.

Daath: The ultimate protection created by the Dark Mind: The Abyss. A void the illusion of self may never cross. Castle walls guarding the Kingdom. However, willpower is an infinite unstoppable force. It leaks through the Abyss.

4) Chesed: The King. Lucifer. The Divine Spark. Individualized will of the consciousness unit. Microcosm of Chokmah. The power harnessed by the magician when performing miracles. The first node of the lower triad.

5) Geburah: Adherence to the Law. RESTRICTION. Illusory barriers and boundaries. Nearly infinite potential. Our possible reality paths from our current point forward. Microcosm of Binah. Unconscious mind containing our potential. Free Will is applied here.

6) Tiphereth: Beauty, The self. Ego. That which aims to rise within the hierarchy of darkness.

Again we take a short break to elaborate. Here we see the microcosm in which we are created as a living God. We are working with infinitely small scraps of the original emanation. Free will is again fed through a mind-maze of illusions. Some enjoyable; all restrictive. This is where the illusions may be triumphed over to allow a greater flow of free will to the self and whatever experiences it desires.

7) Netzach: Emotion, Human feeling. Impulses of lower nature. That which drives the majority of the unaware. A lower form of will.

8) Hod: Individual mind. Finite. Limited. Determinism.

9) Yesod: Mental form. The stuff our thought is made of.

10) Malkuth: The illusion of the external physical world.

Obviously, the lower aspects of the tree need little explaining as they are what even the basest of us experience and have experienced in all of our incarnations for all of the illusion of time.

One final note: As you begin to study and apply these principals in your life the knowledge floods your perception from within and takes form without. Initially, the material seems complex and over one's head. This is only illusion. You are already a master. As illusion is dissolved it comes back full-force. Ideas, books, individuals, inspiration will come.

Remember, just by the very fact that you have been allowed to come to know this, you are privileged.

Cheers.
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Thanks for all the material Zulkar. I'm the guy from way earlier in the thread (page 15) that had the story about the bottle of scotch whiskey.

Anyways, I have progressed much farther in realizing illusion since I last participated in this thread. I feel like I am just about ready to begin exploiting the reality engine full-time.

Here's my interpretation of things: First of all, I've been working with the Kybalion and the Tree of Life. My breakdown of the emanation is as follows:

The All: Unmanifested

1) Kether: The light, Unity. Duality reconciled.

2) Chokmah: Infinite force, Pure, unrestricted free-will. Logos.

3) Binah: The Dark Mind. Reality engine containing every infinite possibility.

Here we must elaborate. Above is the macrocosmic triad. The Demiurgic force of the Dark Mind which has absolute power over everything. However, through the liberation of our own free will we can manipulate the creational-bargains between these forces. As previously mentioned in the thread, any physicality is an illusion. Everything that is perceptible is an illusion constructed of thought and will.

Daath: The ultimate protection created by the Dark Mind: The Abyss. A void the illusion of self may never cross. Castle walls guarding the Kingdom. However, willpower is an infinite unstoppable force. It leaks through the Abyss.

4) Chesed: The King. Lucifer. The Divine Spark. Individualized will of the consciousness unit. Microcosm of Chokmah. The power harnessed by the magician when performing miracles. The first node of the lower triad.

5) Geburah: Adherence to the Law. RESTRICTION. Illusory barriers and boundaries. Nearly infinite potential. Our possible reality paths from our current point forward. Microcosm of Binah. Unconscious mind containing our potential. Free Will is applied here.

6) Tiphereth: Beauty, The self. Ego. That which aims to rise within the hierarchy of darkness.

Again we take a short break to elaborate. Here we see the microcosm in which we are created as a living God. We are working with infinitely small scraps of the original emanation. Free will is again fed through a mind-maze of illusions. Some enjoyable; all restrictive. This is where the illusions may be triumphed over to allow a greater flow of free will to the self and whatever experiences it desires.

7) Netzach: Emotion, Human feeling. Impulses of lower nature. That which drives the majority of the unaware. A lower form of will.

8) Hod: Individual mind. Finite. Limited. Determinism.

9) Yesod: Mental form. The stuff our thought is made of.

10) Malkuth: The illusion of the external physical world.

Obviously, the lower aspects of the tree need little explaining as they are what even the basest of us experience and have experienced in all of our incarnations for all of the illusion of time.

One final note: As you begin to study and apply these principals in your life the knowledge floods your perception from within and takes form without. Initially, the material seems complex and over one's head. This is only illusion. You are already a master. As illusion is dissolved it comes back full-force. Ideas, books, individuals, inspiration will come.

Remember, just by the very fact that you have been allowed to come to know this, you are privileged.

Cheers.
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Thank you.
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Thanks for all the material Zulkar. I'm the guy from way earlier in the thread (page 15) that had the story about the bottle of scotch whiskey.

Anyways, I have progressed much farther in realizing illusion since I last participated in this thread. I feel like I am just about ready to begin exploiting the reality engine full-time.

Here's my interpretation of things: First of all, I've been working with the Kybalion and the Tree of Life. My breakdown of the emanation is as follows:

The All: Unmanifested

1) Kether: The light, Unity. Duality reconciled.

2) Chokmah: Infinite force, Pure, unrestricted free-will. Logos.

3) Binah: The Dark Mind. Reality engine containing every infinite possibility.

Here we must elaborate. Above is the macrocosmic triad. The Demiurgic force of the Dark Mind which has absolute power over everything. However, through the liberation of our own free will we can manipulate the creational-bargains between these forces. As previously mentioned in the thread, any physicality is an illusion. Everything that is perceptible is an illusion constructed of thought and will.

Daath: The ultimate protection created by the Dark Mind: The Abyss. A void the illusion of self may never cross. Castle walls guarding the Kingdom. However, willpower is an infinite unstoppable force. It leaks through the Abyss.

4) Chesed: The King. Lucifer. The Divine Spark. Individualized will of the consciousness unit. Microcosm of Chokmah. The power harnessed by the magician when performing miracles. The first node of the lower triad.

5) Geburah: Adherence to the Law. RESTRICTION. Illusory barriers and boundaries. Nearly infinite potential. Our possible reality paths from our current point forward. Microcosm of Binah. Unconscious mind containing our potential. Free Will is applied here.

6) Tiphereth: Beauty, The self. Ego. That which aims to rise within the hierarchy of darkness.

Again we take a short break to elaborate. Here we see the microcosm in which we are created as a living God. We are working with infinitely small scraps of the original emanation. Free will is again fed through a mind-maze of illusions. Some enjoyable; all restrictive. This is where the illusions may be triumphed over to allow a greater flow of free will to the self and whatever experiences it desires.

7) Netzach: Emotion, Human feeling. Impulses of lower nature. That which drives the majority of the unaware. A lower form of will.

8) Hod: Individual mind. Finite. Limited. Determinism.

9) Yesod: Mental form. The stuff our thought is made of.

10) Malkuth: The illusion of the external physical world.

Obviously, the lower aspects of the tree need little explaining as they are what even the basest of us experience and have experienced in all of our incarnations for all of the illusion of time.

One final note: As you begin to study and apply these principals in your life the knowledge floods your perception from within and takes form without. Initially, the material seems complex and over one's head. This is only illusion. You are already a master. As illusion is dissolved it comes back full-force. Ideas, books, individuals, inspiration will come.

Remember, just by the very fact that you have been allowed to come to know this, you are privileged.

Cheers.
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So I assume you have studied Chaol's teachings? And have moved away from it to what you posted above? Or do you integrate both?

Thanks
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Thanks for all the material Zulkar. I'm the guy from way earlier in the thread (page 15) that had the story about the bottle of scotch whiskey.

Anyways, I have progressed much farther in realizing illusion since I last participated in this thread. I feel like I am just about ready to begin exploiting the reality engine full-time.

Here's my interpretation of things: First of all, I've been working with the Kybalion and the Tree of Life. My breakdown of the emanation is as follows:

The All: Unmanifested

1) Kether: The light, Unity. Duality reconciled.

2) Chokmah: Infinite force, Pure, unrestricted free-will. Logos.

3) Binah: The Dark Mind. Reality engine containing every infinite possibility.

Here we must elaborate. Above is the macrocosmic triad. The Demiurgic force of the Dark Mind which has absolute power over everything. However, through the liberation of our own free will we can manipulate the creational-bargains between these forces. As previously mentioned in the thread, any physicality is an illusion. Everything that is perceptible is an illusion constructed of thought and will.

Daath: The ultimate protection created by the Dark Mind: The Abyss. A void the illusion of self may never cross. Castle walls guarding the Kingdom. However, willpower is an infinite unstoppable force. It leaks through the Abyss.

4) Chesed: The King. Lucifer. The Divine Spark. Individualized will of the consciousness unit. Microcosm of Chokmah. The power harnessed by the magician when performing miracles. The first node of the lower triad.

5) Geburah: Adherence to the Law. RESTRICTION. Illusory barriers and boundaries. Nearly infinite potential. Our possible reality paths from our current point forward. Microcosm of Binah. Unconscious mind containing our potential. Free Will is applied here.

6) Tiphereth: Beauty, The self. Ego. That which aims to rise within the hierarchy of darkness.

Again we take a short break to elaborate. Here we see the microcosm in which we are created as a living God. We are working with infinitely small scraps of the original emanation. Free will is again fed through a mind-maze of illusions. Some enjoyable; all restrictive. This is where the illusions may be triumphed over to allow a greater flow of free will to the self and whatever experiences it desires.

7) Netzach: Emotion, Human feeling. Impulses of lower nature. That which drives the majority of the unaware. A lower form of will.

8) Hod: Individual mind. Finite. Limited. Determinism.

9) Yesod: Mental form. The stuff our thought is made of.

10) Malkuth: The illusion of the external physical world.

Obviously, the lower aspects of the tree need little explaining as they are what even the basest of us experience and have experienced in all of our incarnations for all of the illusion of time.

One final note: As you begin to study and apply these principals in your life the knowledge floods your perception from within and takes form without. Initially, the material seems complex and over one's head. This is only illusion. You are already a master. As illusion is dissolved it comes back full-force. Ideas, books, individuals, inspiration will come.

Remember, just by the very fact that you have been allowed to come to know this, you are privileged.

Cheers.
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So I assume you have studied Chaol's teachings? And have moved away from it to what you posted above? Or do you integrate both?

Thanks
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It's the study of the Kabbalah. The Tree of Life. The tetragrammaton. Probably represented by the same tree we visit in the dreamworld meetings. The root of mind.
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Thanks for all the material Zulkar. I'm the guy from way earlier in the thread (page 15) that had the story about the bottle of scotch whiskey.

Anyways, I have progressed much farther in realizing illusion since I last participated in this thread. I feel like I am just about ready to begin exploiting the reality engine full-time.

Here's my interpretation of things: First of all, I've been working with the Kybalion and the Tree of Life. My breakdown of the emanation is as follows:

The All: Unmanifested

1) Kether: The light, Unity. Duality reconciled.

2) Chokmah: Infinite force, Pure, unrestricted free-will. Logos.

3) Binah: The Dark Mind. Reality engine containing every infinite possibility.

Here we must elaborate. Above is the macrocosmic triad. The Demiurgic force of the Dark Mind which has absolute power over everything. However, through the liberation of our own free will we can manipulate the creational-bargains between these forces. As previously mentioned in the thread, any physicality is an illusion. Everything that is perceptible is an illusion constructed of thought and will.

Daath: The ultimate protection created by the Dark Mind: The Abyss. A void the illusion of self may never cross. Castle walls guarding the Kingdom. However, willpower is an infinite unstoppable force. It leaks through the Abyss.

4) Chesed: The King. Lucifer. The Divine Spark. Individualized will of the consciousness unit. Microcosm of Chokmah. The power harnessed by the magician when performing miracles. The first node of the lower triad.

5) Geburah: Adherence to the Law. RESTRICTION. Illusory barriers and boundaries. Nearly infinite potential. Our possible reality paths from our current point forward. Microcosm of Binah. Unconscious mind containing our potential. Free Will is applied here.

6) Tiphereth: Beauty, The self. Ego. That which aims to rise within the hierarchy of darkness.

Again we take a short break to elaborate. Here we see the microcosm in which we are created as a living God. We are working with infinitely small scraps of the original emanation. Free will is again fed through a mind-maze of illusions. Some enjoyable; all restrictive. This is where the illusions may be triumphed over to allow a greater flow of free will to the self and whatever experiences it desires.

7) Netzach: Emotion, Human feeling. Impulses of lower nature. That which drives the majority of the unaware. A lower form of will.

8) Hod: Individual mind. Finite. Limited. Determinism.

9) Yesod: Mental form. The stuff our thought is made of.

10) Malkuth: The illusion of the external physical world.

Obviously, the lower aspects of the tree need little explaining as they are what even the basest of us experience and have experienced in all of our incarnations for all of the illusion of time.

One final note: As you begin to study and apply these principals in your life the knowledge floods your perception from within and takes form without. Initially, the material seems complex and over one's head. This is only illusion. You are already a master. As illusion is dissolved it comes back full-force. Ideas, books, individuals, inspiration will come.

Remember, just by the very fact that you have been allowed to come to know this, you are privileged.

Cheers.
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So I assume you have studied Chaol's teachings? And have moved away from it to what you posted above? Or do you integrate both?

Thanks
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What I've posted is just my interpretation of concepts far older than any of us.
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So it's a creator concept then?
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It's the study of the Kabbalah. The Tree of Life. The tetragrammaton. Probably represented by the same tree we visit in the dreamworld meetings. The root of mind.
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Do you see us as a mind then?

Thread: Is this research showing that the human brain is not us??? - READ THIS
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I can't help myself, heh!

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^you always make me laugh U3...
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^you always make me laugh U3...
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"From now until July 18/19 the Sun increases the energy that the Earth receives. As I mention here [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] these energies are the impetus for mutations as we integrate with the dream world (the new physicality).

At the same time that we perform this exercise there will be other things going on at the same time that pretty much also represent the same thing (breaking into the new physicality; metamorphoses of the old physicality, or the destruction of it)."

"These new energies are not compatible with most of the physicality in your Earth. (Moreso, the type of physicality that you see now.) It does not disappear but as it becomes less relative to the new physicality it must disappear in a logical way. This is represented as the destruction of your physical world."


There it is, CHAOL'S OFFICIAL DOOM CONFIRMATION COUNTDOWN!!!

Look for things to get all mucked up over the course of the next month or two.

If not then I don't know if Mr. Chaol will be returning too GLP next September as stated...

ahhh
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He's been here since then but now he's left for "months". Makes one go hmmmmmmmmmmmm!
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Re: Notes from an "alternate universe": July 18, 2012 - The Return of the Gods
Ok now I just seen this post of yours from 2010...

"Also...

we used to be about 60% human.

We've been becoming less human for hundreds of thousands of years.

Now much less than 10%.

In the next 30 years or so, humans will no longer exist in their current form.

We will be non-physical beings.

More like a dream.

This is the 'great shift' that many have predicted and have read about."


So which is it I'm confused here, slow 30 year transition or 2012/13 reality slap to the face...?

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This long-term change is the biological change.

As noted here: [link to ecsys.org] most of your physical body is not human. Only a very small part of our "human" body is of human origin.

Dreams are physical, as I've said many times before.

"...will be non-physical beings" means in about 30 years your body (then your dream body) will transition beyond the physical.

This is not the same as the change I have been talking about here.
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Huh? So our bodies won't be non-physical until about 30 years.....but we will be living in the dream world (whoever crosses the bridge, I assume).
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Thinking on this issue a little further: there are the "Jesus" people who have posted to these threads, and there are the ones who have posted obscenities and strong disagreement with the ideas herein, and I tell myself that I would never say such things. BUT, when one considers that all of these "others" are within one's perspective and therefore ARE you, then a light goes on.

I notice that when I tell myself, for example, that I don't believe in a fairytale figure invented by the Romans in order to keep some religious harmony within its empire, that a part of me that DOES believe in a real hero named "Jesus", pops up in my perception.

Am I explaining this in a way that makes sense?

It is as if all the things that I say that I am not, seems to manifest in others.

However, if I see these "others"; if I become aware of these "others" who seem to have qualities that I insist I do not have, then I feel an impetus to accept them and say, "these are other me's, expressing qualities that I do not want to recognize that I also hold". They are all a part of my perspective.

Ah, well. Just consider this to be thread filler.
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Wait...I do the same thing. I consider everything I see as a part of me, some way or the other. If it's a quality I don't care for, then of course, I'm sure it's someone else...until I self-reflect and so far, I have found that quality in myself. And I consider this is the reason I see it in another, because I don't want to have the quality.

Also, I've been thinking how Chaol seems a savior of sorts. And looking back over my life, I've always had a savior figure. It might be a handsome prince, a husband, Jesus, a loving, fractal God, etc:, etc:, but there has always been a savior figure.

But, as I look at the progression of these "savior" figures, over time, they are coming closer and closer to being me as my own savior.
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Ish,U3. Stunning insight. A big WOW for that last sentence.

As I have heard it said before: Nobody is coming to save us, because WE are the cavalry.
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Ish,U3. Stunning insight. A big WOW for that last sentence.

As I have heard it said before: Nobody is coming to save us, because WE are the cavalry.
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hf
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