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Constitution and Republic are Dead

 
Bush Is Correct
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12/10/2005 04:43 PM
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Constitution and Republic are Dead
I propose to you that Herr Bush is correct: The Constitution and Bill of Rights are as effective as yet-unused wet toilet paper!

The Constitution, Bill of Rights and the Republic have especially been defunct since March/April of 1861 when The Congress collapsed in "Sine Die" when the Southern secessionists walked out. Lincoln became a dictator and issued the first Executive Order; every President since has operated these united states as any CEO should command any corporation. The Congress is paper-tiger dressing in this monstrous Puppet show sham government.

The Republic, once called United States, went in the way of the Dodo bird, similar to how the ancient Maritime Republic of Venice was undermined and became a subsidiary corporation in a Plutocracy. Especially in 1861 did The Constitution, Bill of Rights and Republic cease to exist.

What effectively happened is these so-called united states reverted to control by the original land owners. Furthermore, the united states have been under an uninterrupted condition of Martial Law decreed by the sovereign power of the foreign owner and which is enforced by a secret continuous Military Junta that is loyal to the sovereign owner. The Government (both Administration and Congress) is pure theatre for public consumption. The Anhappy_bunnyhile elite know the true structure of these united states.

The antics of Herr Bush a couple of years back illustrates this point. When he held a match to a facsimile of The Constitution and said, 'things would be easier if The Constitution was dead and I was a dictator', he was having a private joke very publicly at the expense of ignorant Americans. His charade spelled-out the aforementioned fact that The Constitution and Republic is very dead and that Der Fuhrer actually operates these united states under corporate or commercial laws.
Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 04:46 PM
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THE CONSTITUTION IS NOT DEAD, BECAUSE IT LIVES IN ME! AND BUSH HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER ME AND IS NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE REAL UNITED STATES.
Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 04:48 PM
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I'll second that 29186.
zacksavage

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12/10/2005 04:50 PM
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29186 kicks ass :5:






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Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 04:59 PM
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It is true that the Constitution and Bill of Rights is NOT dead as long as there is a red-blooded American alive.

They are documents bought with the blood and guts of American patriots to give us a government of the people, by the people, and for the people.

It may be written on "just a piece of paper" as far as TPTB are concerned, like a contract to be broken, but it is also written in our minds and in our hearts. We mustn't give up our freedom from tyranny without a battle.
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Cellar Door

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12/10/2005 05:05 PM
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Give me Liberty or Give me Death

Count me in, Patriots
Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 05:31 PM
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"The antics of Herr Bush a couple of years back illustrates this point. When he held a match to a facsimile of The Constitution and said, 'things would be easier if The Constitution was dead and I was a dictator'"

Does anyone have a mainstream source for this? Some folks will not be convinced unless there is one because they can't believe that about their hero.
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salimandr nli
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12/10/2005 05:45 PM
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"I am mindful of the difference between the executive branch and the legislative branch. I assured all four of these leaders that I know the difference, and that difference is they pass the laws and I execute them." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 20, 2000

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." —Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000 (Listen to audio clip)

[link to politicalhumor.about.com]

read and listen to the sad quotes...then read the OPs Constitution and Republic are Dead...again...
Cellar Door

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12/10/2005 05:46 PM
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I found a video/audio clip of this on CNN:

Authentic?

[link to www.newsgateway.ca]
Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 05:47 PM
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the constitution is not dead
it's just that people in power want you to think it is dead
Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 05:48 PM
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God upholds the constitution, because God upholds real govt.
God does not uphold fake govt. which is a form of tyranny
Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 05:49 PM
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the kind of govt. which God upholds will protect the innocent and punish the guilty

the patriot acts do not meet this requirement, so they are not upheld by God
Eagle # 1
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12/10/2005 05:50 PM
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52119 .. The 'individual has few liberties OR rights left.

DON'T believe it ?

Try going up against the 13,500,000 LAWS, RULES and REGULATIONS already on the books of local, state and federal. NO, I did NOT make a mistake with the ZEROS; your just 15 years BEHIND the times ( and figures!). As mentioned before by others, the YELLOW fringe on the FLAGS in the courtroom indicate that we are under ADMIRALITY LAW, NOT the constitution.
The OP is correct. As Congress did NOT have a quorum in 1860-61, all laws passed then and SINCE are UNconstitutional. This has NEVER been addressed and NEVER WILL !

As long as the sheeple are in a dream state, they take one liberty at a time away from you and NO ONE does anything !
The BIG test was WACO, where they MURDERED men, women and CHILDREN, then bulldozed the bodiesa into the ground like they were diseased cattle. NARY a WIMPER !

THAT was the date of the DEATH of the Republic, and there is NO turning back. Like the frog with the temperature slowly rising, we HAD our chance to 'jump out of the pot'. Only thing will save us now is a catastrophic event where 99.99% of the politicians DIE, and there are enough people left alive to recognize, hunt down the other .01% and try them in in courts of JUSTICE, NOT courts of LAW that were stacked against you since 1861 !

End rant !

Eagl
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12/10/2005 05:51 PM
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to abrogate a law does not make it void

they are only acting as traitors
but, they cannot nullify the govt. which God upholds, which is the constitution
Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 06:09 PM
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Eagle, you are right on some of your points; however, at the time of Waco, nobody knew the full details of the "who and why" it happened. The gubmint was in full denial of any wrongdoing and the press was silent for the most part.

We can't go back and undo Waco, but hardly anyone believes the establishment press and their ilk now, so it is unlikely that the people will believe the lies, especially with the internet in so many homes where we have access to alternative news.

If each of us e-mailed what we know to those in our address books, whether well-received or not, the recipient having read it will have it in mind as events unfold. This is how the operatives of the NWO have programmed us for the past 60 years, feeding us their lies a little at a time until we find ourselves in our present circumstance.

We could change how America looks at what is going on around us if we will just intrude a little on the minds and hearts of those who are ignorant of history as well as the present. Plant those seeds and hope for a good harvest! Otherwise, we are conversing only among ourselves.
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Billington Bollocks
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12/10/2005 06:16 PM
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There is only Power.

And Power will do whatever it needs to do to keep you whiny little serfs in line.

In the end, you'll truly learn that Soylent Green is people.
watcher 1
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12/10/2005 07:37 PM
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he has officially 'declared'
war on all of us!
fnord
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12/10/2005 07:41 PM
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If the constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper, then the president is just a goddamned piece of meat.
Anonymous Coward
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12/10/2005 07:52 PM
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Eagle, could you give a link to some info about the number of laws, rules and regs in this once-great and free country of ours? Thanks
Eagle # 1
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12/10/2005 08:36 PM
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52145 .... Obtained a small pamphlet put out by a group of well meaning folks, just like here, about 1993-94 that addressed many of the issues presented in this thread. It quoted the number of laws, rules and regs for the 51 states, local and fedral government. At the time it was 9,000,000 BUT, according to the info, it was growing at about 10,000 A WEEK, average, or 520,000 a year. I have tried to be conservative with the numbers, and if you do the math, that would mean OVER
14,500,000 by now.
If you have gone to court in the last several years, you will note that about eight out of ten cases are posponed for several weeks, as NO judge can possibly know more than 100,000 of the rulings in similar cases, OR, even that the law exists. Meanwhile, some junior law clerk looks up the law, the general disposition of the fines/jail times already established and he proceedes from there. Of course if YOU claim NOT to have heard of this law, rule or regulation, YOU will hear in near sing-song cadence .."Ignorance of the law is NO EXCUSE !" from the judge.
This is one of the BASIC problems in our society; i.e. we are CHOKED with these laws, rules and regs that few have ever heard of, UNTIL we are CAUGHT violating it by an officer of the COURT, know to most as a policeman. HE testifies to your breaking this law, etc. and you are GUILTY until you prove yourself innocent, NOT the other way around. Now his testimony is much more likely to be believed than yours, as I have witnessed when I was on jury duty.
Hope this partially answers your question.I do NOT presently have one of the pamphlets where I can lay hands on it.
Eagle
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12/10/2005 08:46 PM
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those who worship power
are satanists
i guess you forgot that Jesus is greater than Satan

your deluded victory is short lived
Ryline
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12/10/2005 09:47 PM
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Hi people.

I'm from England and it seems to me, that this has something to do with "Star Wars", when you are saying the end of the Republic. Didn't those films by George (Freemason) Lucas have something to do with what he knew of reality and using the films to send sub-conscious messages to us. Taking the piss i mean.

I'm not sure of any laws, but dont you people from the US have some fantastic peoples law, that makes it viable for you to do a Citizens Arrest on these "Ruling Elite". Round them all up. Don't you have anything left in the Constitution to get them with. No people's clause that gives you ultimate juristiction above all others. I thought the Constitution is to protect the people.

And to think they couldn't have there power if the security teams and all the rest who are running after them, stopped doing it on mass. These people won't always be working for the Ruling Elite, they will be cast aside for the latest model or they will either disappear, be murdered or set up, so they don't tell us about their dirty little secrets and more.





GLP