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Petition to Stop Severe Shock Treatments as "Punishment" for Special Needs Children in Mass.

 
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signed.

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signed and passed to all my friends to sign.
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If you're not in the us you can still sign it i just put my name as some guy, adress as shut up and 6 random numbers for the zipcode.
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Wow, do we really need a petition, it should be illegal??????
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what they do to these children and adults is beyond belief
from them being AUTHORIZED BY THE STATE and supposedly ""trained"" to force them TO WORK at mindless useless bs tasks
and WHEN they refuse due to their lack of comprehension and protest according to their intellect and disorders--they can start THEIR bs by showing them????forcing them in reality by taking their hands and making them DO whatever bs task they are supposed to be doing
and if the ""consumer"" RESISTS--they can restrain them in a chair---THIS IS BS/
can ANYONE IMAGINE TELLING THE PsOS ON WELFARE that THEY MUST GO OUT AND PERFORM WORK IN THEIR COMMUNITY ? OR ELSE ?
and IF THEY REFUSE....to start a restrain procedure and if they resist being restrained why restrain them by all 4s ?
you CANNOT EVEN DO THIS IN THE HOSPITALS so why the HELL is this going ON and basically UNSUPERVIZED ?
children and adults are literally MURDERED and nobody gives a damn.

may G_d blast into hell ALL THE ASSHOLES responsible for the DEINSTITUTIONALIZATION of the chronic mentally ill and the formation of these BS organizations and their group homes where THE SAME BREED OF SOCIAL WORKERS that are PAID TO CHECK UP ON ALLEGED ABUSE VICTIMS never go and the children DIE--
the same thing goes on in group homes--there IS NO PROPER supervision or visitation and literal inspection of the ""consumers"" to even check up that the clothes and toys sent in by the family are being used and that these ""consumers" are not being PHYSICALLY ABUSED.

the chronic psycho wards and state hospitals were NOT ALL HELL HOLES like willowbrOOk and the abuses at willowbrook and every other hospital should have been CORRECTED,those in authority HELD RESPONSIBLE AND PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.

what a DISGRACE this ALL IS and again--ALL RESPONSIBLE BETTER BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW.
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and IF THESE STUDENTS are that disturbed WHY THE HELL aren't they medicated ?
MEDICATING THEM IS A MILLION TIMES MORE HUMANE THAN THE HELL THEY ARE PUTTING THEM THROUGH.
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LOL! Fuck you and the children. I don t give a fucking damn to them.whatever
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signed and passed to all my friends to sign.
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the perps need to be charged with child abuse and assault for every incident.
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The human rights abuses taking place at the JRC are well documented. The United Nations is aware of the JRC and has called these shocks “torture”, and says that “The prohibition of torture is absolute.” Yet the school continues to use a powerfully painful electric shock device on students to control their behaviors. These devices are reportedly much stronger than police stun guns and were created by the founder of the Judge Rotenberg Center.

The Judge Rotenberg Center must immediately stop its practice of shocking special needs students.

Rather than shocking students for only severe behaviors, student behavior plans at JRC dictated that we shock certain students for even the most minor of behavioral issues like closing their eyes for 15 seconds while sitting at the desk, pulling apart a loose piece of thread, tearing an empty used paper cup, or for standing up and raising a hand to ask to go to the bathroom. In some classrooms, very often students who observe their peers being shocked react in fear by standing up out of their seat, yelling or crying, or throwing down their task -- and are then shocked for these reactions.

A non-verbal nearly blind girl with cerebral palsy was shocked as part of her behavioral plan for making a moaning sound and for attempts to hold a staff’s hand (her attempts to communicate and to be loved).

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Why I don't normally sign on-line petitions?

That shit hung my browser. Crashed- reset... bullshit on that I won't be signing any more. Fuck you OP. You suck. And the petition page will be labeled an "attack site".
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As your Uncle, I can confirm that this does indeed still take place at the JRC.

Seriously though, the use of aversives is commonplace in behaviour management circles. The JRC just happens to be the most extreme and therefore receives the most publicity. Dr.Israel recently resigned as part of a plea deal. There is apparently some sort of temporary order in place preventing the use of the device on new intakes until further order of the Court. Longterm residents who have an established behaviour plan that already includes skin shocks may continue receiving them.

Skin shock is the most extreme. Forced exercise, exposure to very loud noises (ie. noise canon used in crowd control), having ammonia repeatedly sprayed in the clients eyes at timed intervals, ice cold showers, are often used as alternatives to skin shock.
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How come not as many people get mad and discuss this like they do with the child molester threads? This is worse than what most pedos do to kids

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Wow, very disturbing. What's happening to America? Why haven't these people been arrested?
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 Quoting: Sandi_T


Why I don't normally sign on-line petitions?

That shit hung my browser. Crashed- reset... bullshit on that I won't be signing any more. Fuck you OP. You suck. And the petition page will be labeled an "attack site".
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I've been using the site for a long while and never had a problem.
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while we're at it.. let's stop poisoning and irradiating and feeding our children GMO foods... just a thought...

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signed and passed to all my friends to sign.
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+1
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Once again, an ABSOLUTELY RIVETING RESPONSE!
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"Judge Rotenberg Center" founded by "Matthew L. Israel"

^^^^ Nothing else needs to be said in order to explain why this occurs.
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Yeah, I drive right by this place on my way to one of my accounts. It's been going on for many years now. I'm a bit surpirzed as to it becoming an issue now and not back then, but shock therapy is pretty barbaric imho.


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"Judge Rotenberg Center" founded by "Matthew L. Israel"

^^^^ Nothing else needs to be said in order to explain why this occurs.
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bump
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The education system needs to use the New Jerusalem calendar system
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Thu May 3/28/12
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The education system needs to use the New Jerusalem calendar system
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 Quoting: New Jerusalem Russ Ewert


Wow! Your post has nothing to do with this thread!

Why would you spam a thread such as this? Are you that insensitive or just really fucking stupid?

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The education system needs to use the New Jerusalem calendar system
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 Quoting: New Jerusalem Russ Ewert


Uh oh, one of the retards escaped, quick get the cattle prod!
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Vary sad news, but nothing really new:

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Observations and Findings of Out-of-State Program Visitation Judge Rotenberg Educational Center
JRC Program Visitation Report – 6/9/2006

Hmmmm, who was the governor of Massachusetts at that time?

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They want to start something similar here is Oz.
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this cannot be true. OMG. if it is I swear I will vomit.
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Yes it is true. Ive known about this place for years.
Im just a latrine in a judaic controlled society. As a result, the MSM can get away with taking a leak on me.
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Re: Petition to Stop Severe Shock Treatments as "Punishment" for Special Needs Children in Mass.
Please read the whole thing before going off the handle and sending replies to disagree, or being stupid. Close to the end, I clarify HOW it should be used, and my personal views on using it on a kid.

I think shock treatment is a really good thing, and does work. TO use this because someone is exhibiting a undesired behavior and using the shock to punish them is UNACCEPTABLE. To use it to promote cognitive lessons, IN A TREATMENT SITUATION, cn be a very good thing with positive results. Uing only enough power to cause discomfort, but not a punishing jolt to cause pain. Some (if not most) problems that people have mentally stem from a part of the brain that is 'mis-wired' or cognitively trained improperly. This is a part of the human brain that can't accept verbal reasoning to change how it works, but requires a shock or some other type of reaction to the senses that can draw the attention of the cognitive part of the brain. When a person is shocked, The cognitive part of the brain that functions without thinking (That controls our bodily functions, and essentially how we process the information we take in) learns from the shock (Depending on how the doctor/technician uses it). IF I were to use shock therapy on anyone reading this, and did it in such a way to 'reward' or promote a desired brain function, I could essentially teach your brain that the shock is a good thing. Just like everyone reading this right now... IF you've ever been shocked, it's usually been a bad thing associated with it (careless electrocution, tasered by the police, etc), so being shocked is simply bad, and you make most of your post assuming that being shocked = BAD. Just think from both sides of the fence before you go banning all shock treatments and standing up for things you have no idea about.


HOWEVER, There's some other important things about all of this... The person this treatment is being applied to should fully understand that it's a medical proceedure and not torture, and the person should also be fully consenting to it.

If this was being done on a 4-5 year old, That would be unacceptable because they do not know what's going on, and could be seen by the child as abusive behavior. It should NEVER be a mandated option either. Parents, The child in question, and the doctor should all be informed and involved with shock therapy, and all parties involved should be fully self-consenting before even considering this. If the child or parent has any doubts about the treatments, It will most certainly cause more harm to the child's cognitive process, and make the problems worse, or cause new problems.
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but yes, If these people are using *SEVERE* shocks to punish mentally handicapped children for actions they can't control, Then shame on these people and it does need to be stopped immediately. They may think they're doing good and this method works, but they could be causing more mentally cognitive problems for these children it's being used on, and even the children that watch it being used on the others.

I hope you all see that I am not supporting this particular case, but do see both sides of the fence and do see what 'good' can come of shock treatments WHEN IT'S USED PROPERLY!
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They want to start something similar here is Oz.
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LMAO.... for generations they have tried... that's why we trained the deadly "drop bears"....
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Constantly messing with the electrical system of the body will result in deformed brains and other nerve damage. They are obviously trying to "slowly" euthanize the affected children. Or they are too dumb to realize.





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