Notes from an "alternate universe": Meeting in the new Dream reality

I'm glad to keep the threads going and it means a lot for someone to notice! I always feel like I'm hogging them. Of course, that doesn't stop me, heh!

Yeah, Bob makes things interesting, that's for sure.

Interesting about the morning and evening 20 minute schedule. That's exactly what I do and I like it very much. I also try to meditate as I go to sleep and not go so deep into sleep....which doesn't work much, ;o)!

Tuuuuuur, you're as cool as a cucumber! I can't believe you aren't jumping all over this stuff. I am the opposite.

Of course, if I had been as good at a Genius (and hooking/crocheting) as you were right off the bat, I might be the same! You'll probably slam it when you do get involved!!!!!!

Last Edited by ERE3 on 03/16/2013 07:46 PM

I know that reading people's dreams can be boring, but there seems to be an interesting progression occurring in a set of dreams I have had. Let me make them as brief as possible:

Around two years ago: a long, memorable dream of walking down a wide, high-ceilinged hallway, underground. The walls seem to have a thin veneer of stone or concrete. The floor is of old, worn paving stone. Along the way, there are many other smaller, more narrow passageways branching off the large, wide one. The main concourse is busy with people walking in all directions, with very few of them turning off into the quiet, connecting passageways. There is a sensation of it all being very old; medieval. Persian, perhaps.

Around eight months ago: A dream of being in underground passageways arranged in a maze of hallways that lead to bedroom-sized rooms used for storage of discarded household goods, broken items, and such. The walls and floors are of exposed, compacted Earth. The ceilings are low. Everything is dank and musty. There are no other people at all, although it is apparent that they venture down here on occasion to dump some item that is no longer wanted. It feels like this underground area is current to my waking life; as if I could wake up and go searching for the entrance by walking down the street in my neighborhood.

Yesterday: Vivid dream of being in a maze of hallways and rooms. I recognize the layout from other dreams. This time, however, there is construction going on. The walls are freshly plastered and painted. The floors are covered with sturdy beige carpeting. Every room and hallway is well-lit. Rooms have been significantly enlarged. There are still scraps of paper here and there, but refuse has been carted away. I see children running about in the bigger rooms, with a few adults coming and going through the hallways. It feels very modern and clean, but not quite complete yet.

Here is the kicker on yesterday's dream: These rooms and hallways are not underground anymore. They seem to be elevated so that they are "in the sky". I get the impression that there are stairways and elevators leading up to these new rooms.

Illegal photos of the pyramids.....some Russians (no surprise here) illegally climbed the pyramids and took photos....they are great though..



[link to www.cnn.com]


Edit: I checked the link and the photos are down. Ought oh!

Last Edited by ERE3 on 04/05/2013 07:54 PM

So, LeKing and everybody....it seems we've lost some of the magic we were having with our dreams. Anyone know how to create a nexus?

No, not lost.

I had a breakthrough in understanding why I still have 'bad' dreams, after having a worst nightmare of all kind of dream.

I downloaded in the inbetween state, just before this dream, that the dreams are there to point out what still needs to be dealt with. And those things that they represent are being dealt with through the dream. And what they REALLY represent is not what we think they represent.

Makes sense. It seemed to me though that I had more amazing dreams a few months back. Now, it seems I'm dealing with details that SEEM insignificant, in dreamtime.

It's hard to switch from flying through the air, speaking to wizards, etc: to watching a wrestling match, lol!

My daily experience is like a waking dream. At night I don't dream all that much, though I have had some interesting dreams the past few nights.

I get the impression we're already in a nexus? Is it only me? The symbols could not be more clear, like the Olympus tower burning in Grozny recently, and the clock on top of it stopping.

I keep checking this thread for Chaol's return, though he said he wouldn't come back until September?

I think Chaol is checking in on the threads, but if people are not willing to read the material(in detail) or attempt to connect using the methods provided, there is only so much anyone can do.

Its more of a self empowering journey, that's my opinion anyway.

In this thread I am sure Chaol has said ways in which people can meet him.

There is more to this thread in particular.

Sometimes back to basics is the way forward :) Sekhmet, grass, friendly welcoming tree, quiet place, no distractions, no getting up after 30 seconds because your world hasn't changed so he must be full of nonsense.

Practice makes perfect!



I agree with you Marshwiggle, that some dreams are what you typed, my opinion on them is that they're a message from your higher-self telling you how to correct a problem or giving you a solution to a problem your currently experiencing.

But U3 is speaking of a different kind of experience, the dreams what do feel as if they're 'magical'. I'm sure you have felt the difference.

A "dream" message and a group exercise traveling to an 'alternate universe' are 2 totally different experiences.

For me, the AU (alternate universe) experiences are normally followed by waking up and thinking "what the fu%@ just happened"....then I grab my notebook and write some scribble lol.

Recently though my dreams have been brilliant, I genuinely feel as if I am having a new adventure every night.

Last night, I sailed an ocean with people, and when we got to the other side (I had forgotten where we landed) all of a sudden one of the crew jumped into a plane and flew off?

I think we sailed from Australia, but the name was vague when I woke up with it.

But I have been having massive adventures most nights the past week, I look forward to my dreams every evening.

But I actively expect them plus I use symbols around me, you only get out what you put in.

Stick with it :)!

Last Edited by LeKing on 04/07/2013 01:26 PM

Thanks LeKing. I mostly focus on just the dream time (more than my Genius plans), day and night. I was having amazing dreams, like you shared here, until about 2 or 3 weeks ago. I don't know what's happened but right now, the dreams are kinda boring, really.

Even though it's disappointing to not have the exciting dreams, I am definitely sticking with it, anyway.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 04/07/2013 08:01 PM

Gripped here yesterday about my dreams and had a good one last night.

A lot of you were in it and especially Jesse. I don't remember what we were doing but it was a great feeling.

gf had what she thought was a scary dream of being trapped and chased by entities. But when telling me about being able to see through eyelids and feeling of orgasm like vibration feeling all over body, realized she had ended up between the two worlds, in the state where the spiritual body can leave the physical.

WHile I know we are eager for Chaol's return, it is important to remember if we haven't even attempted his dream exercises in the astral realms, then I think "mada mada dane"

Much more training to be had ;)

I found a post yesterday from Chaol, where he states the point of his absence is to see how well people do on their own.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 298)

"My absence is a type of trial, to see how well people fare with the material on their own accord."

As I said my every day seems like a dream so I have been focusing more on observing the waking state and interpreting it as if it was a dream full of symbolism.

For example, the other day I saw an X-CHAOS sign, last time I saw that was over a year ago when I first discovered these threads. It was like a wink from Chaol. This was the day after the Olympus tower in Grozny burned, stopping the clock on top, which to me is appropriate symbol of time no longer having any meaning.

Meanwhile, it doesn't escape me that Sekhmet is the Goddess of War & Destruction. Interesting that Chaol should be having us all interact with that symbol, no?

Chaol said it begins in Japan, "as above, so below." First we had the earthquake (below) and now NK missiles are aimed at Japan (above):

[link to www.nytimes.com]

The lesson one learns by lucid dreaming is that one has power to change the outcome of even the scariest nightmares.

Wow! What an awesome post. THANK YOU!

Sometimes, the obvious just eludes me! I hadn't even realized my waking time and dream time are merging more so of course, the night time dreams might fade! Doh!

You really got me thinking about Japan!!!!! The beginning of physicality's fall?

And about lucid dreaming and changing the outcome...another lightbulb moment for me!

That was the time before when he said September. He didn't say when he would be back this time. Wish I had asked!

I finally signed up to GLP.

He said in July 2012 he'd come back "one year later" in September. So maybe he meant September 2013, not 2012?

Remember, time doesn't exist in the dream world, September is just a symbol.

Yay! Glad you signed up. (Are you the parakeet lady by any chance? For some reason, the way you said that, it made me think I have conversed with you here.)

He already came back in Sept and left again very shortly after. I don't remember exactly how many days he was here this time, but it wasn't long. I thought we would have him for another year before he left again but I was very wrong.

Yes, good reminder about time and Sept is a symbol. I'm not sure what I can do with it though, to get him back or to feel better about him being gone, lol! Even if I feel he is a symbol of my own making, I still desire him to be here.

I was so upset about him leaving this time, after already being gone for a month, that before he left this time, I told him I was going to make a mental symbol and get him back here. His response was...."if you only knew." I've wondered what he meant by that, I can tell you.

A couple of days ago, I found in his older posts where he talks about his absence is a test to see how we are using the material. Whether this comment is relative to our current experience, I don't know.

Last Edited by ERE3 on 04/11/2013 07:16 PM

Just putting this out here.....Chaol has said the following about Sekhmet...

1) She's been waiting 30,000 years (would this be when our 2 worlds split?)

2) She's already a symbol in our subconscious.

Everything is already a symbol in our subconscious! My personal view is that this "reality" is all a waking dream, so whenever a symbol keeps reappearing, I analyze it like I would interpret any sleeping-dream I might have.

There are two sides to Sekhmet; she is both the Goddess of War and Destruction, but also of creation. First you must destroy before you build anew.

No, I'm not parakeet lady. We may have conversed. It is difficult to find my old posts, I was last participating back in May. I just posted an update on the original thread.

Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 37)

Wow! Shoots that theory down. Thanks Gespenst So, I really wonder what he meant by she's waited 30,000 years, then!!!

Aerial photography of the pyramids, taken from Eduard Spelterini's balloon on 21 November 1904:
[link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Last Edited by ERE3 on 04/15/2013 03:36 PM

Okay, I'm pretty sure this is a shared dream I had last night. If anyone can verify, it would be great.

We were all at Chaol's, which seemed to be kind of a Euro-coffeeshop. There were riddles in the menu and on a chalkboard along with interesting edibles and drinks. Betty (Betsy?) recommended I try the Propure? Which seemed like a quinoia drink and was light, but filling.

Betty has light brown hair, medium length. She didn't wear make-up and had a few blemishes, but was cute. She and I sat at the counter. Everyone else was in groups in different parts of the shop. Chaol walked in amongst us.

Chaol is blond/golden, short hair and very focused. He also sold figurines, which were very interesting and I didn't really know what they were. I had never seen anything like them.

The whole atmosphere was relaxed focus. Everyone seemed intent on learning something. (a lot like here, eh?)People were discussing the riddles on the chalkboard and others were discussing the riddles in the menu. Some were at a table, doing things with the figurines but again, it wasn't something really of this world with those figurines.

Anyone else remember any of this?

Oh, and I just realized, somebody named Betty was at my house today (but it wasn't the same Betty)!

Last Edited by ERE3 on 05/18/2013 08:19 PM

Sad to say, no!
Though I dream every night, and a LOT, so it could be I just forgot.
Mostly I get pleasant travel dreams; I hate to wake up evey morning, lol!

Tossing around hate like that Tuuuur.... you should know better

Guard your thoughts, they are the most relative thing to you.

Just saying you hate to wake up is going to make the experience of getting up to your waking life more unpleasant and relative.

I prefer my dream time to my waking time. It's a quandry, eh?

Wow! Great point.

Yet remaining guarded presumes a threat. I wonder how the paradox is resolved? Is it again found in "letting go" or "acceptance" ultimately leading to lack of relevance and in turn irrelevance within perspective?

Yea, holding the paradox can be tough.

It wouldn't be so much guard as when an undesirable thought arises, accept that it arose and make it irrelevant and then switch your focus.