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Conspiracy or Lunacy... Surely all isn't lost???

 
Jen
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I can't seem to find anything that I can sink my teeth into. Saw the post by the OP, "are you a thread killer?" Thought I might be today, so I'll start my own thread.

Whatever happened to the days when, I don't know, things were surprising? I remember when I got my wake up call. Sometime between the oil spill, noticing that the night sky just didn't seem the same, the sun didn't seem to give off the same light, this overimpending feeling of dread caused by nothing really. The capture of the female soldier, the seal team going in to get her, only to walk into my neighborhood store to hear the chatter by the clerk in the other language that I didn't understand, however the looks from the clerk, and the tone of the one side of the conversation made me feel out of place, somehow intrusive. Then how angry that made me feel when I walked back into my own home to see my Dad's medals hanging on my wall, that I felt out of place in my country. Then the long looming thoughts of whether that made me prejudice. Was I, or were they? Was it wrong to feel like I should have pride in my country, in being an American? Or was it wrong for my country to be slowly being taken away. Wasn't that what was happening?

Ever since those first moments, I think it's been hard to even stay on track. It's all been coming so quickly. The oil spill was devastation on a level I never thought I'd see in my lifetime. I thought there were groups, laws, that made this sort of thing impossible. I remember thinking when I saw the BP commercials, "if I had done that shit, there'd be no company left." You'd think you'd be placed in front of a firing squad for something like that. To see, that our own president wasn't in control of them, during a time like that, to see that there was no level of testing that had been implimented when Trinity was posting pictures of tar removal stations on Destin Beach, I think for the first time ever, I felt alone. Alone with no representation. Now, after Japan, after Fukushima, and not to even mention all the shit I see my kids go through in school, I really think we're on our own.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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What will happen with Fukushima? With any of it? You have to know that we're just lied to about nearly everything. There is a bond, or a bill, or a lobbyist that has to be the mouthpiece for everything, and only after things are exhausted and manipulated somewhere else, are we ever even told about it. So what's with the monitoring stations for the radiation levels. I try to ignore it because I guess there's nothing we can do about it, take iodine pills forever, because you aren't supposed to do that. I'm not asking for a slew of treatments either because I've done it. I even started a thread a long time ago about Kelp, and the benefits of taking that rather than iodine. Have soldier manuals. None of it is practical. It's like the longer you have your eyes open, the more you begin to realize it's like preparing to go home to a home that ins't home. Preparing to live underwater when you were made to live on land. You don't hear a lot from Al Gore anymore, wonder what he thinks about all the pollution, he was always saying we were taking things too far. They must be way overboard by now.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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Think I thought GLP was what it used to be, obviously it isn't. Oh well Trin, I paid this time, figure you've earned it over the years, all the help I have found here, seems talking about the site and just how accurate it is has become where it's at. Can't even find anyone to argue with, guess I will go out and get some radiation this fine Sunday. Y'all have a good one.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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Think I thought GLP was what it used to be, obviously it isn't. Oh well Trin, I paid this time, figure you've earned it over the years, all the help I have found here, seems talking about the site and just how accurate it is has become where it's at. Can't even find anyone to argue with, guess I will go out and get some radiation this fine Sunday. Y'all have a good one.
 Quoting: Jen

Good. I hope you grew up (emotionally) and realized that the paranoid crap being rehashed here is pure bullshit while the real life is elsewhere; enjoy it!

You can still return back here for shit and giggles - like I do.

hf
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Think I thought GLP was what it used to be, obviously it isn't. Oh well Trin, I paid this time, figure you've earned it over the years, all the help I have found here, seems talking about the site and just how accurate it is has become where it's at. Can't even find anyone to argue with, guess I will go out and get some radiation this fine Sunday. Y'all have a good one.
 Quoting: Jen

Good. I hope you grew up (emotionally) and realized that the paranoid crap being rehashed here is pure bullshit while the real life is elsewhere; enjoy it!

You can still return back here for shit and giggles - like I do.

hf
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Maybe for you, it's all about shit's and giggles. I can't say that, call me immature, fine, that's good, I'd disagree, but that would be me, again, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, or several. But it's more than that. Let me try to explain, if I can.

Here, in the US, people have their blinders on. There are no discussions amongst friends. Politics are taboo. Or have become that way, are becoming that way. Too many different religions, too many different heritages all blended together and then there are those that want to somehow, rather than discuss the issues, pay homage. It becomes almost impossible to just discuss a thing, no matter how much damage or danger it poses to both sides of the argument. So, I think, people that contemplate the.... if only this, the situational outcomes. The possibilities as are possible, from purely looking at history alone. What has happened, will happen again. We are creatures of habit. Then compile that with how long each can dodge the bullet, means, theoretically, you're number's eventually going to be up.

I don't just run into the average baseball mom that wants to talk about what's going to happen during a food shortage, or if we do get one of our cities nuked, what the fuck we're going to do if we survive. Sorry, I dropped the f bomb, I know it's such a ... word, but I can't even seem to think about things without saying it in my mind. Might as well be truthful. I don't want my number to be up and not at least know it's coming, or if it's surviveable, be as ready as I can be, if that's only mentally. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I found more true information here, during the oil spill, than I got from my local resources. While there are the nuts on here, there are, I've been in the floor crawling... but there is also every country, sources, and information that used to be invaluable. It seems to be gone.

That's the other end of it I guess. Getting used to thinking "out of your freaking mind".... and not wanting to own it to yourself. Which I'm trying to get used to. I'm not exactly ready to jump on top of a soap box and scream to the high heavens... although, I've thought about it, I don't think the occupy movement has exactly done what they set out to do, and I'm very hesitant to discuss things publicly with those I know, because ... I like to be involved with my children. Because I understand that those that feel like I do, are quiet, and those that don't, wouldn't understand.

That's my best effort at explaining to you that it's not about shit's and giggles here. Sometimes, yes, I've had some hot conversations with some viable opponents :) But mostly, it's out of desperation for true facts, and you can weed out the nuts here. You can get information. I used to joke that if I wanted to know something, I'd check GLP because one of the moran's on here somewhere would have something to say. Look at Trinity with that telescope! SO, Google Earth decided to put up little google blocks all over the sun, so Trinity went and got a telescope we could direct on our own. Brava! That's a sight more than a loon with a conspiracy theory.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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Are you hot ?
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The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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thank you for sharing hf
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I was logging in for a reason, and now I just lost it
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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thank you for sharing hf
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If that's a serious comment, you're welcome. Not sure how much sense I'm making, but that's the whole point.
hf
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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I know what I was thinking. I was thinking how gray it looks.

Looks terribly gray and dull behind the sunshine somehow. Makes me feel unsafe in some way. Like there's a film over everything. Which makes me wonder why the geiger counter readings you look up for very similar locations come up so different.

When I read general comments about the radiation, compile those with reports from different organizations doing independent studies, none of the information sounds promising. It does sound like everyone has a different idea about the long term. It's obviously not going to be like Bhopal. What will it be like? I don't understand how it can go on and on and no serious reports be issued by our government. If there has been a report issued, I missed it. They spend a ton on advertising, I heard that figure, so we should definitely hear about a radiation report.

Last Edited by Jen on 06/11/2012 10:54 AM
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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This president of ours must have his head in the clouds is all I know. Really. You are the Commander in Chief of a nation like the United States. Our people don't feel safe. We all, everyone it seems, is wondering what's going to happen to us. Fear in the heart of a nation is dangerous. Doesn't the government see that we are losing faith?

I once heard the most dangerous thing for a marriage is for a woman to feel insecure. Like she's not ok, or going to be ok. A man has to be able to make a woman feel safe. He's not going to let anyone touch her, not going to let any financial difficulty get to her, I mean, in the end of ends.... he's got it. Same thing with the country. Aren't we in effect married to the government? We are the wives and children, the government is the husband. That's how it's supposed to be. Doesn't the government realize that we're insecure, that we don't feel like it's going to be ok. I hope they don't think it will be alright if it continues the way it's going... divorce really isn't an option, I mean how does that work?
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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lol, I bet my chi for the day sucks. Or aura, or whatever. There's that lady that like... says a little thing for you on GLP, you have to put your fingers together, bet mine wouldn't be good today. It always says I'm a skeptic, too skeptical.

I really want to have a good day, it's just hard. Hard to say ... good mornin'! I don't want to wonder about all the shit going on today, but I can't help it.

Isn't that what's called no representation? When you can't concentrate on normal things in your life because you are so fearful about things going on within your government, city, state and federal?

There is really something wrong when we are paying to support all these institutions through our taxes, and none of them work. Or we're paying for them and they're not doing what they are supposed to do, and in that instance everyone should be fired. It's such shit, that all this crap goes on. Doctors, lawyers are a nightmare, at least 1/3 of the blame for all this... schools. We are who they are here to serve, how is it we ended up on the wrong end of the stick? Pisses me off to no end, really. So I exhaust myself butting heads with everyone, and it never does much good. Sustains, but impossibe to rise above, so I feel like I'm sinking all the time and it sucks!
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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Ever google lunacy? Strange what you find, in the highlights. Odd to say the least! That's my fringe binge for ya today, for those of you that love the hunt :) My AU friends always love to play clue.

I'm off today, 118 people have read this and no one has anything to say, so I must be on a different wavelength today, guess I'll sign off, don't want to be a thread killer :) Love that.
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The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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I am the official thread killer. See title :p (oops... title has been removed, never mind. I guess the title is up for grabs)

I hear your frustrations. You are not alone.

It's the sheer stupidity of it all that rubs me so raw. It's completely obvious. 100% transparent and yet the denial runs too deep to allow even brief glimpses of acknowledgement.

It's like being stuck in hell, a hell in mind and body.

I wish I could provide something more than my empathy.

Last Edited by Sammie on 06/11/2012 11:44 AM
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Ya. You're waking up.

Keep thinking, keep relaxing.

There are agents all over the internet, by the way.
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I am the official thread killer. See title :p (oops... title has been removed, never mind. I guess the title is up for grabs)

I hear your frustrations. You are not alone.

It's the sheer stupidity of it all that rubs me so raw. It's completely obvious. 100% transparent and yet the denial runs too deep to allow even brief glimpses of acknowledgement.

It's like being stuck in hell, a hell in mind and body.

I wish I could provide something more than my empathy.
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Empathy is enough. Just to know that I'm not alone, in waking up today, not being able to jump in to the "responsible"... I'd rather watch my son sleep. He's safe after all, today, beautiful, full of wishes and promise, hopes and dreams. For today, I can lie to myself. I don't really have a way to move to Australia. If I could, that would be where I'd go. But I can't, and the door is closing I think. I think I knew two years ago to leave, and always thought I would. Somewhere between trying to keep food on the table and afford the constant rise in cost vs the constant loss of revenue, the possibilities ended. They became something more like, treat it systematically. Now... I think that's all I'll be able to do, and really, I think in the end, there will be a global effect. I do believe there is something going on with the 2012 theory, I don't want to, but I do. I've never seen the weather like this, ever. The wind blows straight down on you sometimes, not right or left, just out of nowhere, straight down. My mom lives in the center of Washington state, it's been fall for her all year. She's scared, never believed anything I said, now she's scared.

Still, rather be somewhere else.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles
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Ya. You're waking up.

Keep thinking, keep relaxing.

There are agents all over the internet, by the way.
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Are there? Agents? And what, they're going to pay attention to me? shit, I call bullshit! I try to get answers about simple things and can't. If there are agents on the internet, I think they're looking at porn, because they aren't doing anything about anything, or everything would not be such a mess. I'd like to ask them some questions, namely, first, why my commander in chief has such a discrepency about his place of birth. I want to know why Al Gore wasn't president when the people voted for him to be. Not that I hate George Bush completely, but one has to wonder.

Agents that are going to what? Arrest me for feeling afraid? Arrest me for being angry that I don't feel like I quite know what the hell I'm working for? It's nothing I'm ashamed of. I wish I could explain without sounding pure bullshit myself, that there is no where or no one that will listen where I am. If there were, I would try to speak. If there were something I could do to make things better, I would, but I'm not in that position, and I'm not sure how to get there. That's a copout though, isn't it? A contradiction in terms.

You hear it all the time, if you think you could do better, get out there and do it. I just don't know what, or how, maybe that's the reason for most of the silence, because people don't know what or how. We love our nation in our heart, but don't know how or what to do to help her.

I'm not afraid to say that my friend, to anyone, and I'd love to know why any agent would have a problem with me.
The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything’s more beautiful because we’re doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again. - Achilles





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