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Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.

 
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So, because I don't make assumptions and jump to conclusions...based on a paranoid world view...I'm the one who's wrong?
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Ahahhaha.. Read your sentence again?

What it means paranoid world view? ( Is it paranoid if we warn that we should be carefully not to aloud Auschwitz kind of powers to decide our fates?

Should I understand that reminding people of existence of well organized and historically well documented forces of mindless evil? That they do not exist? That all those atrociousness never happened? So that there is no potential for any evildoing?

I mean that would be paranoid If we would worn about non existing dangers..

Isn,t that not assumption and hastened conclusion on your part?

Ahahha.. Eeeeee man o man..:))
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You shouldn't assume that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Those other things you mention are irrelevant to this discussion. One knew those things to be truth. There is ZERO EVIDENCE that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Please stop with the ludicrous parallels.


With the claims about the trails in the sky...you ARE warning others about nonexistent dangers.
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You have been defending Monsanto..proven Nazi company. which is for me enough evidence to know from which kitchen you are coming.

So what I say about Aushwitz is quite relevant , and we still have same Eugenics creeps on the power who invented Nazis and many Brown shirts who defend them.. And Monstanto is continuation of those same Nazi policies ( and when I say Nazi I do not mean German per se.. ) Nazis from Germany do.. are in USA and Latin America thanx to Vatican and British..and together with them you made CIA and Genetic Science and NASA and etc.. and let's not forget Vatican for example are known for Inquisition and Flat Earth theory .

Which I,m very sure you would defend in we would be in 16th century.:))..

Dream of Jozef Mengele is fulfilled in USA..
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When was the last scientific test you did on a contrail? Can you produce your results? What evidence can you provide besides a book or a teacher to back your claims?
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This^^^^^^^Is stupid
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I agree
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OP, please go suck start a pistol!!!!!!bump

If i knew you in person, you prolly would get an ass beating....anyone with comments under thier assigned name just to piss off chemtards..... come on.....ru unemployed??????? it seems that all day you have been posting..... Not that I care, but some of us have logical thinking, others like you, need to go back to the PHARM Party and pick out another one of those little colorful candies....... now skoot along and see the candy man....and for fucks sake, shut up.sheeplebah
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When was the last scientific test you did on a contrail? Can you produce your results? What evidence can you provide besides a book or a teacher to back your claims?
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This^^^^^^^Is stupid
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I agree
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OP, please go suck start a pistol!!!!!!bump

If i knew you in person, you prolly would get an ass beating....anyone with comments under thier assigned name just to piss off chemtards..... come on.....ru unemployed??????? it seems that all day you have been posting..... Not that I care, but some of us have logical thinking, others like you, need to go back to the PHARM Party and pick out another one of those little colorful candies....... now skoot along and see the candy man....and for fucks sake, shut up.sheeplebah
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Everybody watch out, it's an internet tough guy!!! He's serious!!!
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Earth is Flat and is laying on the big Weather Balloon.

Ok you are right.. I rest my case...:)
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So, because I don't make assumptions and jump to conclusions...based on a paranoid world view...I'm the one who's wrong?
 Quoting: Noble


Ahahhaha.. Read your sentence again?

What it means paranoid world view? ( Is it paranoid if we warn that we should be carefully not to aloud Auschwitz kind of powers to decide our fates?

Should I understand that reminding people of existence of well organized and historically well documented forces of mindless evil? That they do not exist? That all those atrociousness never happened? So that there is no potential for any evildoing?

I mean that would be paranoid If we would worn about non existing dangers..

Isn,t that not assumption and hastened conclusion on your part?

Ahahha.. Eeeeee man o man..:))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8135620


You shouldn't assume that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Those other things you mention are irrelevant to this discussion. One knew those things to be truth. There is ZERO EVIDENCE that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Please stop with the ludicrous parallels.


With the claims about the trails in the sky...you ARE warning others about nonexistent dangers.
 Quoting: Noble



You have been defending Monsanto..proven Nazi company. which is for me enough evidence to know from which kitchen you are coming.

So what I say about Aushwitz is quite relevant , and we still have same Eugenics creeps on the power who invented Nazis and many Brown shirts who defend them.. And Monstanto is continuation of those same Nazi policies ( and when I say Nazi I do not mean German per se.. ) Nazis from Germany do.. are in USA and Latin America thanx to Vatican and British..and together with them you made CIA and Genetic Science and NASA and etc.. and let's not forget Vatican for example are known for Inquisition and Flat Earth theory .

Which I,m very sure you would defend in we would be in 16th century.:))..

Dream of Jozef Mengele is fulfilled in USA..
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No, I pointed out that there is always aluminum in the soil, and that aluminum resistant seeds are a good thing.

But, now that you mention it...please provide evidence that Monsanto is a PROVEN "nazi company".


Your paranoia about eugenics is as hilarious as it is disturbing.

You do realize that most of the food we eat has been genetically altered through evolution and natural selection...right?! Just because a company is researching such things...doesn't make them evil...

By the way, our position about the trails in the sky is more in line with flat earth thinking. You see trails in the sky and you jump to conclusions based on your ignorance about atmospheric science and aviation..

Science is on MY side as far as the trails in the sky go...you chemtards have developed a religion based on your ignorance and paranoia and you'll do anything to indoctrinate others into your twisted cult.
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When was the last scientific test you did on a contrail? Can you produce your results? What evidence can you provide besides a book or a teacher to back your claims?
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This^^^^^^^Is stupid
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I agree
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OP, please go suck start a pistol!!!!!!bump

If i knew you in person, you prolly would get an ass beating....anyone with comments under thier assigned name just to piss off chemtards..... come on.....ru unemployed??????? it seems that all day you have been posting..... Not that I care, but some of us have logical thinking, others like you, need to go back to the PHARM Party and pick out another one of those little colorful candies....... now skoot along and see the candy man....and for fucks sake, shut up.sheeplebah
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Blow me..loser.
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Ahahhaha.. Read your sentence again?

What it means paranoid world view? ( Is it paranoid if we warn that we should be carefully not to aloud Auschwitz kind of powers to decide our fates?

Should I understand that reminding people of existence of well organized and historically well documented forces of mindless evil? That they do not exist? That all those atrociousness never happened? So that there is no potential for any evildoing?

I mean that would be paranoid If we would worn about non existing dangers..

Isn,t that not assumption and hastened conclusion on your part?

Ahahha.. Eeeeee man o man..:))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8135620


You shouldn't assume that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Those other things you mention are irrelevant to this discussion. One knew those things to be truth. There is ZERO EVIDENCE that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Please stop with the ludicrous parallels.


With the claims about the trails in the sky...you ARE warning others about nonexistent dangers.
 Quoting: Noble



You have been defending Monsanto..proven Nazi company. which is for me enough evidence to know from which kitchen you are coming.

So what I say about Aushwitz is quite relevant , and we still have same Eugenics creeps on the power who invented Nazis and many Brown shirts who defend them.. And Monstanto is continuation of those same Nazi policies ( and when I say Nazi I do not mean German per se.. ) Nazis from Germany do.. are in USA and Latin America thanx to Vatican and British..and together with them you made CIA and Genetic Science and NASA and etc.. and let's not forget Vatican for example are known for Inquisition and Flat Earth theory .

Which I,m very sure you would defend in we would be in 16th century.:))..

Dream of Jozef Mengele is fulfilled in USA..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8135620


No, I pointed out that there is always aluminum in the soil, and that aluminum resistant seeds are a good thing.

But, now that you mention it...please provide evidence that Monsanto is a PROVEN "nazi company".


Your paranoia about eugenics is as hilarious as it is disturbing.

You do realize that most of the food we eat has been genetically altered through evolution and natural selection...right?! Just because a company is researching such things...doesn't make them evil...

By the way, our position about the trails in the sky is more in line with flat earth thinking. You see trails in the sky and you jump to conclusions based on your ignorance about atmospheric science and aviation..

Science is on MY side as far as the trails in the sky go...you chemtards have developed a religion based on your ignorance and paranoia and you'll do anything to indoctrinate others into your twisted cult.
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...


Ahahhaha.. Read your sentence again?

What it means paranoid world view? ( Is it paranoid if we warn that we should be carefully not to aloud Auschwitz kind of powers to decide our fates?

Should I understand that reminding people of existence of well organized and historically well documented forces of mindless evil? That they do not exist? That all those atrociousness never happened? So that there is no potential for any evildoing?

I mean that would be paranoid If we would worn about non existing dangers..

Isn,t that not assumption and hastened conclusion on your part?

Ahahha.. Eeeeee man o man..:))
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8135620


You shouldn't assume that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Those other things you mention are irrelevant to this discussion. One knew those things to be truth. There is ZERO EVIDENCE that the trails are anything more than contrails.


Please stop with the ludicrous parallels.


With the claims about the trails in the sky...you ARE warning others about nonexistent dangers.
 Quoting: Noble



You have been defending Monsanto..proven Nazi company. which is for me enough evidence to know from which kitchen you are coming.

So what I say about Aushwitz is quite relevant , and we still have same Eugenics creeps on the power who invented Nazis and many Brown shirts who defend them.. And Monstanto is continuation of those same Nazi policies ( and when I say Nazi I do not mean German per se.. ) Nazis from Germany do.. are in USA and Latin America thanx to Vatican and British..and together with them you made CIA and Genetic Science and NASA and etc.. and let's not forget Vatican for example are known for Inquisition and Flat Earth theory .

Which I,m very sure you would defend in we would be in 16th century.:))..

Dream of Jozef Mengele is fulfilled in USA..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8135620


No, I pointed out that there is always aluminum in the soil, and that aluminum resistant seeds are a good thing.

But, now that you mention it...please provide evidence that Monsanto is a PROVEN "nazi company".


Your paranoia about eugenics is as hilarious as it is disturbing.

You do realize that most of the food we eat has been genetically altered through evolution and natural selection...right?! Just because a company is researching such things...doesn't make them evil...

By the way, our position about the trails in the sky is more in line with flat earth thinking. You see trails in the sky and you jump to conclusions based on your ignorance about atmospheric science and aviation..

Science is on MY side as far as the trails in the sky go...you chemtards have developed a religion based on your ignorance and paranoia and you'll do anything to indoctrinate others into your twisted cult.
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Oops..."our position" should have been "your position"
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Nope, just keeping an asshole in suspense. Bada bing!
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I'm not in suspense...I know that the info I asked for doesn't exist.
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Only in your feeble little mind.
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I know why you won't provide it...and so do you.
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Yep. Like I said, you are always right in your little worthless world. Ever total the number of people that know your a complete fraud? I am sure there is a numer for the amount of people who actually respect your opinion but you can't count to zero. Like everyone has previously stated many times on many occasions, you my foolish boy are a tool without a clue.
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When was the last scientific test you did on a contrail? Can you produce your results? What evidence can you provide besides a book or a teacher to back your claims?
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This^^^^^^^Is stupid
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I agree
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OP, please go suck start a pistol!!!!!!bump

If i knew you in person, you prolly would get an ass beating....anyone with comments under thier assigned name just to piss off chemtards..... come on.....ru unemployed??????? it seems that all day you have been posting..... Not that I care, but some of us have logical thinking, others like you, need to go back to the PHARM Party and pick out another one of those little colorful candies....... now skoot along and see the candy man....and for fucks sake, shut up.sheeplebah
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This ^
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Btw quit agreeing with yourself under different user names.
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I think i know where Noble is coming from and yes i agree with him on it that it(chems) are not dispersed thru the engines as that would be stupid for such smart creators as it is so much easier, so we agree it does not come thru the engines but maybe being released afterwards for the engine to help disperse, nobody knows but those who are capable so? I have a question for you Noble, do you think the USA trains other countries air forces how to spread chaff in the USA?
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Btw quit agreeing with yourself under different user names.
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I have done no such thing you paranoid lying loser.
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I think i know where Noble is coming from and yes i agree with him on it that it(chems) are not dispersed thru the engines as that would be stupid for such smart creators as it is so much easier, so we agree it does not come thru the engines but maybe being released afterwards for the engine to help disperse, nobody knows but those who are capable so? I have a question for you Noble, do you think the USA trains other countries air forces how to spread chaff in the USA?
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Lol...

Do you know what chaff is?!

Do you believe it leaves trails when deployed?

Honestly, I don't think it matters if we train allies on how to use chaff...it's a non issue.
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I'm not in suspense...I know that the info I asked for doesn't exist.
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Only in your feeble little mind.
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I know why you won't provide it...and so do you.
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Yep. Like I said, you are always right in your little worthless world. Ever total the number of people that know your a complete fraud? I am sure there is a numer for the amount of people who actually respect your opinion but you can't count to zero. Like everyone has previously stated many times on many occasions, you my foolish boy are a tool without a clue.
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Nope, not always right...but, about the fact that no one has provided any evidence that any of the trails we see in the sky are anything more than contrails....I'm 100% correct. It just has not been done...the end!

I'm no fraud..

My position is that no one has proven the trails to be anything but contrails. You may not like that fact...but, it is a fact. Sorry.

And you are an ignorant loser chemtard...nothing more.
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The Boeing 707 to enter service in 1958 and dominate the market for civilian airliners

Look at some movies made back in the 60's & 70's, and see if you can find any "chemtrails", oh i mean contrails. NOT
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My question is why you "contrailtards" are so desperate on debunking chemtrails. If someone believes in something that isn't true, who really gives a fuck? Let them believe it.

Some of you guys seem to go out of your way and take up a lot of time debunking chemtrails.

I could care less if someone believes in BS especially if they are just some stranger on the internet...

It almost seems like your job...
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Same argument about ANYTHING which gets enthusiastically debunked. People saying it's wrong means it must be right. Pathetic.
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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.


Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
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Checklist. . . Aerosol Injection
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Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering  Checklist

1.  Is there evidence of particulate or aerosols in the atmosphere which cannot be completely explained as to source and amount by Atmospheric Scientists? . . . Yes
2.  Is there evidence suggesting that the rate of global warming has changed? . . . Yes 
3.  Is there evidence of unaccounted budget and mechanisms to allocate, spend and manage projects without the public's knowledge or consent? . . . Yes
4.  Are there unidentified Aircraft that fly daily which the public  has no information about their mission, goals, flight path, altitude or purpose? . . . Yes
5. Do these unidentified Aircraft sometime leave persistent Trails? . . . Yes
6. Are there whistleblowers who have indicated that a Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering program is ongoing?. . . Yes
7.  Are there in existence technology to accomplish a program of aerosol dispersal at altitude and a set of airframes available to accomplish such a mission? . . . Yes
8.  Has there been sufficient time from the development of technology and motive for  Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering programs to see them fully tested, deployed, and operational? . . . Yes 
9.  Are there sufficient aerosol materials readily available to accomplish such a dispersal program? . . . Yes
10.  Is there history of pre-existing or similar aerosol dispersal programs?. . . Yes
11.  Is there sufficient process and infrastructure to maintain secrecy and covert operations? . . . Yes
12.  Is there a history of operational research regarding the effects of (chemical)  aerosols being added to jet  fuel to monitor the visual and atmospheric measurement  effects? . . .Yes
13. Are there Local,  National,  and Global motives to engage in an aerosol dispersal program? . . . Yes
14.  Are the motives for such programs and the technology and procedures for their implementations being discussed in scientific and political organizations worldwide? . . . Yes
15. Are there national and international  laws, regulations, treaties, and organizations available ready to facilitate and not eliminate such aerosol injection programs? . . .Yes
16. Are there any monitoring programs where data is available to the public that eliminates the possibility of the existence of such a dispersal program? . . . No
17.  Is there any evidence other than official announcements from Governmental and Political sources that Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering don't exist? . . . No
18.  Is there a small yet vocal group of people who insist that such a program exists? . . . Yes
19. Is there a history of unexplained substances which have been documented that have fallen from the sky? . . .Yes
20. Have the rates of respiratory diseases, allergies, and conditions associated with the atmosphere continually risen? . . .Yes
21.  Has there been a steady increase in the number of persistent trails observed by people and reported as unusual to their memory? . . . Yes
22. Has NASA & NOAA as well as similar organizations in the UK invested significant budget and effort in soliciting the public's help to identify and report persistent trails in the sky? . . . Yes
23.  Has any practical contrail mitigation procedures or technology been invested in, deployed,  installed or become operational? . . . No
24. Has NASA utilized satellite imaging in an effort to correlate the presence of persistent trails visualized and detected from space with ground observations ? . . . Yes
25. Has NASA and other organizations presented significant research that persistent Trails and cirrus clouds may result in significant climatic impact? . . .Yes
26. Are governments capable of initiating, implementing,  maintaining, and covering up programs which have been proven to be against the best interest to the health and welfare of their citizens? . . .Yes
27. Do you have any reason to believe some type of coordinated,  high tech, aerosol injection program from altitude,  dispersed by some type of airframe has not, is not, or will not be implemented ?. . . No  
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Sorry, chemtrail videos are evidence that chemtards exist...not evidence that "chemtrails" exist.
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Who cares man about evidence that you will accept??

We share info.. Just like you do..

Are you are some sort of tard professor bent on giving diplomas?
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No, you share innuendo. Those are two different things.
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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.


Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
 Quoting: Noble



Checklist. . . Aerosol Injection
siren2    siren2     siren2

Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering  Checklist

1.  Is there evidence of particulate or aerosols in the atmosphere which cannot be completely explained as to source and amount by Atmospheric Scientists? . . . Yes
2.  Is there evidence suggesting that the rate of global warming has changed? . . . Yes 
3.  Is there evidence of unaccounted budget and mechanisms to allocate, spend and manage projects without the public's knowledge or consent? . . . Yes
4.  Are there unidentified Aircraft that fly daily which the public  has no information about their mission, goals, flight path, altitude or purpose? . . . Yes
5. Do these unidentified Aircraft sometime leave persistent Trails? . . . Yes
6. Are there whistleblowers who have indicated that a Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering program is ongoing?. . . Yes
7.  Are there in existence technology to accomplish a program of aerosol dispersal at altitude and a set of airframes available to accomplish such a mission? . . . Yes
8.  Has there been sufficient time from the development of technology and motive for  Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering programs to see them fully tested, deployed, and operational? . . . Yes 
9.  Are there sufficient aerosol materials readily available to accomplish such a dispersal program? . . . Yes
10.  Is there history of pre-existing or similar aerosol dispersal programs?. . . Yes
11.  Is there sufficient process and infrastructure to maintain secrecy and covert operations? . . . Yes
12.  Is there a history of operational research regarding the effects of (chemical)  aerosols being added to jet  fuel to monitor the visual and atmospheric measurement  effects? . . .Yes
13. Are there Local,  National,  and Global motives to engage in an aerosol dispersal program? . . . Yes
14.  Are the motives for such programs and the technology and procedures for their implementations being discussed in scientific and political organizations worldwide? . . . Yes
15. Are there national and international  laws, regulations, treaties, and organizations available ready to facilitate and not eliminate such aerosol injection programs? . . .Yes
16. Are there any monitoring programs where data is available to the public that eliminates the possibility of the existence of such a dispersal program? . . . No
17.  Is there any evidence other than official announcements from Governmental and Political sources that Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering don't exist? . . . No
18.  Is there a small yet vocal group of people who insist that such a program exists? . . . Yes
19. Is there a history of unexplained substances which have been documented that have fallen from the sky? . . .Yes
20. Have the rates of respiratory diseases, allergies, and conditions associated with the atmosphere continually risen? . . .Yes
21.  Has there been a steady increase in the number of persistent trails observed by people and reported as unusual to their memory? . . . Yes
22. Has NASA & NOAA as well as similar organizations in the UK invested significant budget and effort in soliciting the public's help to identify and report persistent trails in the sky? . . . Yes
23.  Has any practical contrail mitigation procedures or technology been invested in, deployed,  installed or become operational? . . . No
24. Has NASA utilized satellite imaging in an effort to correlate the presence of persistent trails visualized and detected from space with ground observations ? . . . Yes
25. Has NASA and other organizations presented significant research that persistent Trails and cirrus clouds may result in significant climatic impact? . . .Yes
26. Are governments capable of initiating, implementing,  maintaining, and covering up programs which have been proven to be against the best interest to the health and welfare of their citizens? . . .Yes
27. Do you have any reason to believe some type of coordinated,  high tech, aerosol injection program from altitude,  dispersed by some type of airframe has not, is not, or will not be implemented ?. . . No  
coffee4shitstir2
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Yes george , we've all seen it before...yawn...thanks for your input.

Does any of that prove the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails? No?

Thanks for playing...
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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.


Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right
now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all
over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't
bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
 Quoting: Noble



Checklist. . . Aerosol Injection

siren2    siren2     siren2

Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering  Checklist

1.  Is there evidence of particulate or aerosols in the atmosphere which cannot be completely explained as to source and amount by Atmospheric Scientists? . . . Yes
2.  Is there evidence suggesting that the rate of global warming has changed? . . . Yes 
3.  Is there evidence of unaccounted budget and mechanisms to allocate, spend and manage projects without the public's knowledge or consent? . . . Yes
4.  Are there unidentified Aircraft that fly daily which the public  has no information about their mission, goals, flight path, altitude or purpose? . . . Yes
5. Do these unidentified Aircraft sometime leave persistent Trails? . . . Yes
6. Are there whistleblowers who have indicated that a Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering program is ongoing?. . . Yes
7.  Are there in existence technology to accomplish a program of aerosol dispersal at altitude and a set of airframes available to accomplish such a mission? . . . Yes
8.  Has there been sufficient time from the development of technology and motive for  Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering programs to see them fully tested, deployed, and operational? . . . Yes 
9.  Are there sufficient aerosol materials readily available to accomplish such a dispersal program? . . . Yes
10.  Is there history of pre-existing or similar aerosol dispersal programs?. . . Yes
11.  Is there sufficient process and infrastructure to maintain secrecy and covert operations? . . . Yes
12.  Is there a history of operational research regarding the effects of (chemical)  aerosols being added to jet  fuel to monitor the visual and atmospheric measurement  effects? . . .Yes
13. Are there Local,  National,  and Global motives to engage in an aerosol dispersal program? . . . Yes
14.  Are the motives for such programs and the technology and procedures for their implementations being discussed in scientific and political organizations worldwide? . . . Yes
15. Are there national and international  laws, regulations, treaties, and organizations available ready to facilitate and not eliminate such aerosol injection programs? . . .Yes
16. Are there any monitoring programs where data is available to the public that eliminates the possibility of the existence of such a dispersal program? . . . No
17.  Is there any evidence other than official announcements from Governmental and Political sources that Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering don't exist? . . . No
18.  Is there a small yet vocal group of people who insist that such a
program exists? . . . Yes
19. Is there a history of unexplained substances which have been documented that have fallen from the sky? . . .Yes
20. Have the rates of respiratory diseases, allergies, and conditions associated with the atmosphere continually risen? . . .Yes
21.  Has there been a steady increase in the number of persistent trails observed by people and reported as unusual to their memory? . . . Yes
22. Has NASA & NOAA as well as similar organizations in the UK invested significant budget and effort in soliciting the public's help to identify and report persistent trails in the sky? . . . Yes
23.  Has any practical contrail mitigation procedures or technology been invested in, deployed,  installed or become operational? . . . No
24. Has NASA utilized satellite imaging in an effort to correlate the presence of persistent trails visualized and detected from space with ground observations ? . . . Yes
25. Has NASA and other organizations presented significant research that persistent Trails and cirrus clouds may result in significant climatic impact? . . .Yes
26. Are governments capable of initiating, implementing,  maintaining, and covering up programs which have been proven to be against the best interest to the health and welfare of their citizens? . . .Yes
27. Do you have any reason to believe some type of coordinated,  high tech, aerosol injection program from altitude,  dispersed by some type of airframe has not, is not, or will not be implemented ?. . . No  
coffee4shitstir2
 Quoting: George B



Yes george , we've all seen it before...yawn...thanks for your input.

Does any of that prove the trails in the sky are anything more than

contrails? No?

Thanks for playing...
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At least what I post is factual and logical.

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At least what I post is factual and logical.

What you do is post opinion and suspicion as truth.
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Just because you failed to notice them until 2 or 3 years ago, doesn't mean they weren't there.



You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.



Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
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You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Apparently you missed my posting just a few posts up.

Before you start the ad hominem attacks to make your opinion seem more valid, perhaps you should look at that posting.

Then come back and admit you were incorrect in your assertion.

Have a good day.

EDITING TO ADD:

Since I'm certain that scrolling up will be too much effort, I'll just repost them:

Pictures from world war 2 in Life magazine:

chem3chem2

From an episode of Twilight Zone in the late 50s (or perhaps the early 60s):

chem6chem7

From an article in a science book in the 70s (Which also demonstrates that contrails do, indeed, linger and spread out into a blanket of cloud cover):

chem4chem5


So much for your assertion that contrails were never seen before just a few years ago.

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You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Apparently you missed my posting just a few posts up.

Before you start the ad hominem attacks to make your opinion seem more valid, perhaps you should look at that posting.

Then come back and admit you were incorrect in your assertion.

Have a good day.
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Checklist. . . Aerosol Injection
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Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering  Checklist

1.  Is there evidence of particulate or aerosols in the atmosphere which cannot be completely explained as to source and amount by Atmospheric Scientists? . . . Yes
2.  Is there evidence suggesting that the rate of global warming has changed? . . . Yes 
3.  Is there evidence of unaccounted budget and mechanisms to allocate, spend and manage projects without the public's knowledge or consent? . . . Yes
4.  Are there unidentified Aircraft that fly daily which the public  has no information about their mission, goals, flight path, altitude or purpose? . . . Yes
5. Do these unidentified Aircraft sometime leave persistent Trails? . . . Yes
6. Are there whistleblowers who have indicated that a Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering program is ongoing?. . . Yes
7.  Are there in existence technology to accomplish a program of aerosol dispersal at altitude and a set of airframes available to accomplish such a mission? . . . Yes
8.  Has there been sufficient time from the development of technology and motive for  Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering programs to see them fully tested, deployed, and operational? . . . Yes 
9.  Are there sufficient aerosol materials readily available to accomplish such a dispersal program? . . . Yes
10.  Is there history of pre-existing or similar aerosol dispersal programs?. . . Yes
11.  Is there sufficient process and infrastructure to maintain secrecy and covert operations? . . . Yes
12.  Is there a history of operational research regarding the effects of (chemical)  aerosols being added to jet  fuel to monitor the visual and atmospheric measurement  effects? . . .Yes
13. Are there Local,  National,  and Global motives to engage in an aerosol dispersal program? . . . Yes
14.  Are the motives for such programs and the technology and procedures for their implementations being discussed in scientific and political organizations worldwide? . . . Yes
15. Are there national and international  laws, regulations, treaties, and organizations available ready to facilitate and not eliminate such aerosol injection programs? . . .Yes
16. Are there any monitoring programs where data is available to the public that eliminates the possibility of the existence of such a dispersal program? . . . No
17.  Is there any evidence other than official announcements from Governmental and Political sources that Stratospheric Aerosol Geoengineering don't exist? . . . No
18.  Is there a small yet vocal group of people who insist that such a program exists? . . . Yes
19. Is there a history of unexplained substances which have been documented that have fallen from the sky? . . .Yes
20. Have the rates of respiratory diseases, allergies, and conditions associated with the atmosphere continually risen? . . .Yes
21.  Has there been a steady increase in the number of persistent trails observed by people and reported as unusual to their memory? . . . Yes
22. Has NASA & NOAA as well as similar organizations in the UK invested significant budget and effort in soliciting the public's help to identify and report persistent trails in the sky? . . . Yes
23.  Has any practical contrail mitigation procedures or technology been invested in, deployed,  installed or become operational? . . . No
24. Has NASA utilized satellite imaging in an effort to correlate the presence of persistent trails visualized and detected from space with ground observations ? . . . Yes
25. Has NASA and other organizations presented significant research that persistent Trails and cirrus clouds may result in significant climatic impact? . . .Yes
26. Are governments capable of initiating, implementing,  maintaining, and covering up programs which have been proven to be against the best interest to the health and welfare of their citizens? . . .Yes
27. Do you have any reason to believe some type of coordinated,  high tech, aerosol injection program from altitude,  dispersed by some type of airframe has not, is not, or will not be implemented ?. . . No  
coffee4shitstir2
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1) is there any evidence that anyone is placing these aerosols into the air intentionally? NO!

Is there evidence that natural processes could be responsible for the aerosols? YES!

4)Is there ANY evidence that these aircraft have ANYTHING to do with "chemtrails" whatsoever? NO! Is it just paranoid assumption that just because "the public" isn't informed about their presence..that they must be up to no good? YES!

8) Is there any evidence that anything has been deployed as far as intentional aerosol injection? NO! Is it just speculation that because "they" have had "the time and budget" to do something...that they have done it? YES!

13) Oh really? And what are the "motives"? And does "motive" mean deployment? NO! Are scientists working on MANY proposals to do fix all sorts of problems in our world? YES! Does that necessarily mean they are doing anything on a global scale? NO!

23) SO WHAT?! The only people who give a shit about the trails in the sky are whiny chemtards. I happen to think some of them are quite beautiful...and I would rather they stay there. Also, I think there are some patents out there which address this issue...but, airlines have no reason to spend money on making contrails less visible.
Also, I thought you preferred to discuss the INVISIBLE trails...flip flopping through your paranoid delusions again?

27)I have no reason to believe it HAS been implemented...This is an opinion question...and is meaningless. I'm sure there are MANY things you "believe" about many subjects..that doesn't make your OPINION about those things anything more than opinion.

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Chemtards don't understand some simple concepts...

For instance...

Chemtards have ZERO evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails.

Contrails can and DO spread out to fill the sky based on the how much moisture is already present, and how cold it is. This is a fact...not all contrails must dissipate within ANY time frame to be contrails. The atmospheric conditions determine how long a trail will last...or if it won't last at all.


Finding natural elements at ground level is evidence that natural elements are in nature...not that these elements (aluminum, barium, strontium...whatever) came from the trails.Natural elements are spread all around the earth through wind, water, erosion (wind and water) and many other natural processes including volcanoes, and the water cycle.


Those who disagree with the chemtards are NOT "disinfo-agents" or "shills". That's just ridiculous paranoid nonsense. One doesn't have to be working for "them" to point out that basic science and principles of aviation easily explain the trails in the sky. Just because I believe you to be wrong...and KNOW there is no evidence to support the chemtrail myth...Doesnt mean I'm a bad guy for pointing it out.



Just because someone finds a "patent" for a device or process for placing chemicals into the air...for any purpose...doesn't mean the trails we see have ANYTHING to do with the patent or process. It's pure assumption to believe that just because something you found on the internet involves "airplanes and spraying" that the trails must be related to the patent or process.

Many patents are filed for and are never made into a working model and not ever implemented. Now, this isn't to say that in the past...or even right now..someone isn't using one of these patents to spray something into the sky...I'm just saying that there isn't ANY evidence to link any trail in the sky, referred to as a "chemtrail", to any patent whatsoever. It's all speculation and assumptions...sorry!


Most chemtards are completely oblivious to to the world around them...and believe that they are supposed to have the right to pure, clean "air". There is no such thing...and never has been! There is always natural/man made products in our air...in varying quantities...from region to region...town to town...neighborhood to neighborhood. The industrial revolution has resulted in factories and industries spread all over the world...and each one of these facilities produces wastes based on their production and use of resources. There are many industries which use barium and aluminum in manufacturing and processes and these items end up in our air...all over the world.

Not to mention our personal contributions...Those of us with cars leave behind minute pieces of metal from internal friction...we create brake dust form our brake pads (guess what THEY are made of) we burn hydrocarbons and add water and combustion gases into the air through those processes. Chlorine from our pools is in the air...we spray all sorts of chemicals into the air with our household products. The HVAC industry is responsible for TONS of freon being but into our air...The list is literally endless...we are, and always have been, exposed to many chemicals and processes and you people focus on trails of water vapor in the sky?! It's just so sad that you people concentrate your efforts on such things...while ignoring/avoiding all the sources of pollution all around you.

I will be adding more things to this thread, based on the title, as I Think of them. Debunkers, feel free to add your own...chemtards, don't bother...This is a thread about what you people don't understand...there is an endless supply of threads with that information in them on GLP. No need to post your ignorance here.


Just because places have "banned chemtrails" or are working to do so, doesn't mean the trails in the sky are anything more than contrails. Any place which bans "chemtrails" will be in for a big surprise when it turns out that the trails remain in the sky....which they will...because they are contrails.
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Go piss in the air and down onto yourself
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Go cry about trails of water vapor that you are ignorant about...

Oh, I see you are already doing that...carry on!
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Re: Chemtrails? Doubtful. Things chemtards don't (or can't) understand.
You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Apparently you missed my posting just a few posts up.

Before you start the ad hominem attacks to make your opinion seem more valid, perhaps you should look at that posting.

Then come back and admit you were incorrect in your assertion.

Have a good day.
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The question is not. . . .did persistent contrails exist in the past? . . .it is the increasing number, frequency, and the threshold at which they (persistent trails) became so obvious that it was impossible for even the casual observer to ignore. . . .with increased long haul air traffic, more and more cruising at 30,000 feet plus, and more efficient jet engines over highly populated areas of the world . . . it has became very noticeable. . . .coffee4

Not to mention there has been no attempt to mitigate their occurrence by the air industry. . . .though there are several alternatives to do so. . . .
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You must be retarded. Why if they have been there so long that we do not have them in old pictures and movies dummy. Try to watch an old youtube video of someone doing something outside and you will not see them, but try and find a video now without them.
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Apparently you missed my posting just a few posts up.

Before you start the ad hominem attacks to make your opinion seem more valid, perhaps you should look at that posting.

Then come back and admit you were incorrect in your assertion.

Have a good day.
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F U too!
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I edited my posting you've quoted because, as you've demonstrated here, I was correct in my assumption that scrolling up and actually reading something that disagreed with your assertion would be too much effort for you to even attempt.

I guess now that it's on another page, I'll have to repost them again.

From the 40s in Life magazine:

chem2chem3

From the 50s (or perhaps early 60s) in an episode of Twilight Zone:

chem6chem7

From an article in a science book in the 70s:

chem4chem5

So, as you can see, your assertion that we're all "retards" and "dummies" because contrails were never in any media prior to recent years is incorrect.

Here is where you swallow your arrogance and pride and admit you were incorrect.


Of course, you won't, you'll only toss out more insults, whine like a little bitch and stomp your feet a few times out of frustration.

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