Your Body is Just an Interface

These body-suits are so limiting

I agree Sandi!

Thread: Are you using your avatar/body to it's fullest?

Ah yes. They are also limiters. I forgot I wanted to mention that!

Interface and a limiter, indeed!

If I play Minecraft (or whatever, pick your game) on hardcore mode, and my character dies, I don't fall over dead and cease to be aware in real life...

Nor do we cease when the 'game' of Earth is over, either.

Death is game over for this interface, but not for your awareness!

Nothing better than a good interface...

Great thread!

whats your point?

Input/output using your hardware...

No point, just sharing. Now, let's all sing Kumbaya and hold hands.

THE PROJECTION ARGUMENT

The soul is a manifestation of a physical body. Therefore, when people almost die, the manifestation can wonder about, still being produced by the disabled, but still alive body.

Upon returning to consciousness, they have memories of wondering about.

This does not rule out the possibility that when a person dies and is not resuscitated, that this projection, deteriorates with the body.

So while astral projection is cool. It does not prove the existence of an afterlife.

Why are you wearing that stupid man suit?

I wonder if you realize how absurd that argument sounds.

If the soul is a 'manifestation' of the physical body, then it can't be all off running around without it. Especially while the body is dead.

It's a woman suit and it's pretty damned smart.

We are not human beings with souls. We are souls occupying a vessel.

When you find your inner-self and every cell in your body vibrates and shouts out as one voice, in perfect unity, you realise what you really are.

It's just a meat suit and your gonna get another one.

Agreement total. But you can Not Stay longer than 3 days. The Time People can get resurrected the Bible teaches. After if you dont know jesus Good luck and forever. Make no mistake. You only get One try!

Wrong. You get plenty of chances.

Agreed.

The vast majority of people who NDE'd with no faith or a faith other than that of Jesus ALL saw the exact same things.

Last Edited by WeAreOne on 05/31/2012 09:28 AM

Thanks for sharing!

Ok Folks go Ahead and try. Im pretty Sure i will Never meet you afterwards. Sorry.

+1

People who've had NDE's and OBE's, it does not prove the existence of an afterlife, infact it just creates more questions than it answers. The denial by those people of this point just proves it creates another set of believers.. amazing how manipulative emotion can be.

"You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." ~C.S. Lewis

great thread op!

Yes, as a child, I was not yet indoctrinated into christianity as I was later. In those NDEs, I was embraced in total, unconditional love. It was like surfing in love... amazing.

Later, after I was indoctrinated, I again was in the presence of God. This time, It showed Itself as jesus. I asked why, and the answer was simple, "because it was the only way you could recognize me. If I had shown up in any other fashion, you would have rejected me, no matter what."

Rude awakening for an obsessively devout christian.

Common after-effects

According to the International Association for Near Death Studies, around eighty percent of the people who experience near-death states claim that their lives are changed forever. They experience specific psychological and physiological differences on a massive scale which may cause major adjustment difficulties for, on average, seven years but especially during the first three years. This is true with child experiencers, as well as with teenagers and adults.
These after-effects are shared by people, including children, who had intense experiences in a particularly vivid dream, while meditating or who have narrowly escaped death.

Cherie Sutherland, an Australian researcher, interviewed 50 NDE survivors in depth and found that the effects on the lives of survivors had been remarkably consistent and quite different from the effects of drug or chemical induced hallucinations. She identified many effects which have been substantiated by other studies e.g. Ring (1980 and 1984) Atwater (1988). These included:

• a universal belief in life after death
• a high proportion (80%) now believed in re-incarnation
• a total absence of fear of death
• a large shift from organized religion to personal spiritual practice
• a statistically significant increase in psychic sensitivity
• a more positive view of self and of others
• an increased desire for solitude
• an increased sense of purpose
• a lack of interest in material success coupled with a marked increase in interest in spiritual development
• fifty per cent experienced major difficulties in close relationships as a result of their changed priorities
• an increase in health consciousness
• most drank less alcohol
• almost all gave up smoking
• most gave up prescription drugs
• most watched less television
• most read fewer newspapers
• an increased interest in alternative healing
• an increased interest in learning and self-development
• seventy five per cent experienced a major career change in which they moved towards areas of helping others.

[link to www.victorzammit.com]

One unanimous aspect involving people who have NDEs is that they know absolutely there is life after death. They no longer believe in an afterlife. They know there is an afterlife.

The idea that near-death accounts provide this knowledge has nothing to do with faith. Faith implies the possibility of doubt. Knowledge implies certainty. NDEs are based on solid knowledge and facts - not faith.

If a million astronauts go to Mars and return to Earth saying that there's Martians living there, it is then that I would know for sure that there's Martians living on Mars. In the same way, millions of people have returned from death saying that there is life after death.

Can millions of people experiencing the same thing all be wrong? Isn't it easier to believe they are right? For this reason, the only rational conclusion is that there is life after death. Faith and skepticism then becomes irrational.

[link to www.near-death.com]

That's your personal opinion... but it's a silly one.

It is absurd to make the claim that the soul is dependent upon the body and then state that the soul is off wandering around without the dead body... but it can't live without the body.


That's like saying that a woman is still pregnant after she has her baby because the presence of the baby equals pregnancy, no matter what. Nonsensical.

The body dies, the soul walks away... but the soul depends on the body for life... silliness.

why beat around the bush religitard? just come right out and tell him you think he's going to burn in hell forever you arrogant fuck.