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Burt Gummer
User ID: 7702124 United States 05/22/2012 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Birfoons are again cherry-picking only those tidbits that somehow support their smearing agenda. [link to politicalwire.com] Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire: "You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more." A conslusion: another birfoons' bullshit. ....yeah sure....it was just an "error". ...and so are all the other pieces of evidence too huh? WHAT EVIDENCES???? Birthers have tried their “evidences” on courts innumerous times already – but failed each time. In only 3 cases Obama had to defend the suit (Berg v. Obama, Keyes v. Bowen, Hollister v. Soetoro). In most other cases the court dismissed the case sua ponte (on its own accord) with no motions filed by Obama – due inanity of legal filing. * Go look them up....they have been pasted all over GLP and various news sources. - Old web site from 2004 says KENYAN - Sheriff Arpio forgery investifation news conference...watch it - Online confirmation about layered birth cert by Photoshop experts (also done by Arpio) - Breitbart death, coroner death, witness death ....the list goes on and on.....go search. If you REALLY cared you would already know all this. THEREFORE....you are probably just a government shillbag. :voteamerican: Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 05/22/2012 08:01 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455769 Slovenia 05/22/2012 08:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 Birfoons are again cherry-picking only those tidbits that somehow support their smearing agenda. [link to politicalwire.com] Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire: "You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more." A conslusion: another birfoons' bullshit. ....yeah sure....it was just an "error". ...and so are all the other pieces of evidence too huh? WHAT EVIDENCES???? Birthers have tried their “evidences” on courts innumerous times already – but failed each time. In only 3 cases Obama had to defend the suit (Berg v. Obama, Keyes v. Bowen, Hollister v. Soetoro). In most other cases the court dismissed the case sua ponte (on its own accord) with no motions filed by Obama – due inanity of legal filing. * Go look them up....they have been pasted all over GLP and various news sources. - Old web site from 2004 says KENYAN - Sheriff Arpio forgery investifation news conference...watch it - Online confirmation about layered birth cert by Photoshop experts (also done by Arpio) - Breitbart death, coroner death, witness death ....the list goes on and on.....go search. If you REALLY cared you would already know all this. THEREFORE....you are probably just a government shillbag. :birth1: :voteamerican: Bullshit. Have you ever heard about the following basic legal principle? - The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty. - The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges Prove any of your alleged evidences on the court or STFU. Besides, the credentials of the US president have to be verified before he takes the oath; any member of the Congress could’ve called objections – but nobody did. Once sworn president can be lawfully removed from his office only by the elections or impeachment; read the Article 1 of the US Constitution. PS: Of course I'm a gov't shill - as anyone else disagreeing with you. |
A Friend
User ID: 16494862 United States 05/22/2012 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we have a president who lied to be elected, he is a fraud, not only that but he has about destroyed our economy, our laws, our culture, muslims have been pouring into the USA up 67% in three years. 50% of our college grads are jobless, now leaving in droves for foreign land to work. One morning we will wake up and every dollar in the bank will be gone, as we are in worse shape than EU. The man has never worked a real job in his life let alone run a bank to know banking run a business to know what employees actually cost, etc yet he walks on water to those who worship him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982522 All we have is one brave patriotic sheriff from the great state of Az trying to expose this fraud. One can only hope the soul of this great nation has the balls to do whats right and arrest him for his deceit and attempt to ruin the USA. Go Sheriff Arpaio! But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14962676 United States 05/22/2012 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Poll: Quoting: AdHocBOHICA If it is found by substantiated proof to YOUR satisfaction that he is not a Natural Born Citizen according to the Constitution of these United States as founded, what is your stance as individuals that are contracted under "the aforementioned Constitution"? Excellent question! How is the individual citizen empowered to enforce the Constitution (if at all)? I would direct you to this thread: Thread: ***** A CONSTITUTIONAL Discussion ***** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16494371 United States 05/22/2012 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14803862 IF this were true then a woman could go to Iraq , have a baby with Saddam (unbeknownst to us), and ultimately and legally that child could become POTUS. This is what the law is intended to prevent, and why it needs to continue to be upheld... This is irrelevant; according to the US jurisprudence the place of birth makes one a "Citizen at Birth" AKA "Natural Born Citizen". Nevertheless... "a woman can go to Oklahoma and have a baby with Timothy McVeigh (unbeknownst to us)" as well. What gives that? Besides, did the British citizenship of the Funding Fathers' parents define their loyalty? * To answer your question as to when : Article 2 of OUR Constitution "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." So not only "Natural Born", but if born while abroad to American Citizens, must spend 14 years in residency on US soil. I guess this ends your bid as a potential candidate as POTUS. Sorry, Slovenia is your only option .... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455769 Slovenia 05/22/2012 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14803862 IF this were true then a woman could go to Iraq , have a baby with Saddam (unbeknownst to us), and ultimately and legally that child could become POTUS. This is what the law is intended to prevent, and why it needs to continue to be upheld... This is irrelevant; according to the US jurisprudence the place of birth makes one a "Citizen at Birth" AKA "Natural Born Citizen". Nevertheless... "a woman can go to Oklahoma and have a baby with Timothy McVeigh (unbeknownst to us)" as well. What gives that? Besides, did the British citizenship of the Funding Fathers' parents define their loyalty? * To answer your question as to when : Article 2 of OUR Constitution "No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." So not only "Natural Born", but if born while abroad to American Citizens, must spend 14 years in residency on US soil. I guess this ends your bid as a potential candidate as POTUS. Sorry, Slovenia is your only option .... Obama was born on the US soil what makes him “citizen at birth” AKA “natural born citizen” (synonymous). Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system). The US jurisprudence doesn’t give a flying fuck about opinion of till recently largely unknown Swiss philosopher (De Wattel, a royalist advocating gun ban, BTW). Besides, at least Chester Arthur's father was not American citizen at the time of Chester’s birth in 1829 – he naturalized in 1843 - a clear legal precedent. [link to en.wikipedia.org] PS: you don't know anything about me. * |
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GooliaJulia
User ID: 12655659 United States 05/22/2012 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Burt Gummer ....yeah sure....it was just an "error". ...and so are all the other pieces of evidence too huh? WHAT EVIDENCES???? Birthers have tried their “evidences” on courts innumerous times already – but failed each time. In only 3 cases Obama had to defend the suit (Berg v. Obama, Keyes v. Bowen, Hollister v. Soetoro). In most other cases the court dismissed the case sua ponte (on its own accord) with no motions filed by Obama – due inanity of legal filing. * Go look them up....they have been pasted all over GLP and various news sources. - Old web site from 2004 says KENYAN - Sheriff Arpio forgery investifation news conference...watch it - Online confirmation about layered birth cert by Photoshop experts (also done by Arpio) - Breitbart death, coroner death, witness death ....the list goes on and on.....go search. If you REALLY cared you would already know all this. THEREFORE....you are probably just a government shillbag. :voteamerican: Bullshit. Have you ever heard about the following basic legal principle? - The presumption of innocence: one is considered innocent until proven guilty. - The burden of proof: the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges Prove any of your alleged evidences on the court or STFU. Besides, the credentials of the US president have to be verified before he takes the oath; any member of the Congress could’ve called objections – but nobody did. Once sworn president can be lawfully removed from his office only by the elections or impeachment; read the Article 1 of the US Constitution. PS: Of course I'm a gov't shill - as anyone else disagreeing with you. if he is a free and clear citizen and telling the truth, why hire lawyers and pay millions to hide everything and anything that had to do with him during his school years?, why can't someone in his administration go to a fracking currency exchange and order his original birth cirtificate for 10 bucks and show us that, the long form, why so much trouble with HI just showing it, its convenient its either lost, blocked, or heavily edited. one of his excuses was he left it in a book? I lost my original, had a new one with in 6 weeks. this is a huge deal, its no longer a hand full of people its states now wondering about this. it's simple really, just get a new one, do not release it thru the white house in PDF with a gazillion filters, show us the original long form. done and over. Sheep the moon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455769 Slovenia 05/22/2012 08:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person born on US soil is legally a "native citizen", not a "natural born citizen". Twit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676 Wrong; again: ... Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 14962676 United States 05/22/2012 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person born on US soil is legally a "native citizen", not a "natural born citizen". Twit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676 Wrong; again: ... Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 Thats not coming from me. That comes from SCOTUS in the opinion on the Minor vs. Happersett case. The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. [link to law2.umkc.edu] |
Lindalee
User ID: 3177816 United States 05/22/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14803862 Both parents have to be natural citizens, with no other citizenship to any other countries. His father was dual, with no US ties. That's not true! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Circling the Sun @ 63,000 MPH <3 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455769 Slovenia 05/22/2012 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if he is a free and clear citizen and telling the truth, why hire lawyers and pay millions... Quoting: GooliaJulia Another birfoon's myth; Obama doesn't need to pay millions to lawyers. Again, in only 3 cases he had to actually defend the suit (Berg v. Obama, Keyes v. Bowen, Hollister v. Soetoro). In most other cases the court dismissed the case sua ponte (on its own accord) with no motions filed by Obama – due inanity of legal filing. Besides, it's not Obama filing and loosing lawsuits, but Birfoons - hence any legal costs are due to them. |
AdHocBOHICA
User ID: 1530155 United States 05/22/2012 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sheriff Joe is boasting about putting Obama in jail for years - although it's clear he has no legal authority for that. He's a corrupted attention-whore serving birfoons what they crave to hear. Nothing will happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 STFU Turd “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” ~Seneca PS: I Stole this from another member.... ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14962676 United States 05/22/2012 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if he is a free and clear citizen and telling the truth, why hire lawyers and pay millions... Quoting: GooliaJulia Another birfoon's myth; Obama doesn't need to pay millions to lawyers. Again, in only 3 cases he had to actually defend the suit (Berg v. Obama, Keyes v. Bowen, Hollister v. Soetoro). In most other cases the court dismissed the case sua ponte (on its own accord) with no motions filed by Obama – due inanity of legal filing. Besides, it's not Obama filing and loosing lawsuits, but Birfoons - hence any legal costs are due to them. OK. How much has he spent then? Do you know? Give us a number. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16495512 United States 05/22/2012 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person born on US soil is legally a "native citizen", not a "natural born citizen". Twit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676 Wrong; again: ... Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 Thats not coming from me. That comes from SCOTUS in the opinion on the Minor vs. Happersett case. The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. [link to law2.umkc.edu] Birthers don't understand definitions. Minor makes it clear it is not defining anything. There is no doubt dogs are mammals doesn't mean cats are not mammals. |
SaveUSa
User ID: 671825 United States 05/22/2012 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get it, wouldn't the fact that his mother is an American citizen render this whole issue moot? Constitutional-wise I mean. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14803862 I cant believe there are still idiots out there that dont get it. You have to be a NATURAL BORN citizen. BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL! Being born in kenya makes you NOT a natural born citizen. Geeeeez! Not only that, but BOTH parents must be natural born citizens as well....a double whammy. Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455769 Slovenia 05/22/2012 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person born on US soil is legally a "native citizen", not a "natural born citizen". Twit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676 Wrong; again: ... Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 Thats not coming from me. That comes from SCOTUS in the opinion on the Minor vs. Happersett case. The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. [link to law2.umkc.edu] Allen (Allen v. Arizona Democratic Party) tried to use Minor vs. Happersett case against Obama, but failed. Judge Richard E. Gordon dismissed the action: [link to www.scribd.com] "Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV) ; Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana (addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett does not hold otherwise." That settles it. Next. * |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14962676 United States 05/22/2012 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person born on US soil is legally a "native citizen", not a "natural born citizen". Twit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676 Wrong; again: ... Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 Thats not coming from me. That comes from SCOTUS in the opinion on the Minor vs. Happersett case. The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. [link to law2.umkc.edu] Birthers don't understand definitions. Minor makes it clear it is not defining anything. There is no doubt dogs are mammals doesn't mean cats are not mammals. (Nice attempt at cognitive infiltration by the way). No they did not define but they made it clear that the definition was still in dispute and was not settled law. |
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A Friend
User ID: 16494862 United States 05/22/2012 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also, how about his social security numbers (plural) belonging to someone else. How many US citizens (legal) have more than one SS#? How about the press releases that Obama proofed/wrote himself stating that he was born in Kenya? How about the video where his own wife states that he was born in Kenya? Why do those of you who are sticking up for this person ignore facts? Why does someone have to hide all of his documents if he's innocent? Can you get a job anywhere without proof of who you are? How about the fact that Bill and Hillary Clinton stated he wasn't qualified and then Bill's best friend is shot right in public? How about his own relatives saying he was born in Kenya? How about Kenyan's saying he was born in Kenya? The very best that you can do is call someone who wants the truth a birther? Really? That is the best you have? Last Edited by A Friend on 05/22/2012 09:08 AM But Lord, he stinketh! :fnecsm: "When the sky crackles in an electric dance of a beautiful requiem of lapis lazuli, maybe you will remember..." ~ Anonymous Coward 77360040 |
Top Hat
User ID: 10235814 United States 05/22/2012 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course we know this already. The time for this was 3 years + ago, however. The closer Joe or others get, the closer we get to Martial Law now. Proving The O to be unqualified is a National Security issue now. Sherrif Joe would be viewed as a terrorist worse than Osama and summarily taken out or arrested. There is the 25th amendment prescription, but who cares in government anymore? Seriously, people are genuinely afraid for their lives too much to go after him. He is not going to willingly leave the job, elections be damned. The bank runs will start in July or August with all hell breaking lose by September and October. The Constitution and elections will be suspended to avert a worldwide crisis and meltdown. It all hinges Obama staying in office for this side of the world for "stability." He just got lucky. He was in the right place at the right time. He's not going anywhere except to the underground bunkers at the designated and appointed time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455769 Slovenia 05/22/2012 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if he is a free and clear citizen and telling the truth, why hire lawyers and pay millions... Quoting: GooliaJulia Another birfoon's myth; Obama doesn't need to pay millions to lawyers. Again, in only 3 cases he had to actually defend the suit (Berg v. Obama, Keyes v. Bowen, Hollister v. Soetoro). In most other cases the court dismissed the case sua ponte (on its own accord) with no motions filed by Obama – due inanity of legal filing. Besides, it's not Obama filing and loosing lawsuits, but Birfoons - hence any legal costs are due to them. OK. How much has he spent then? Do you know? Give us a number. If someone would file a frivolous lawsuits against you and fail at it - who do you think would have to pay the legal costs? You or him? * |
Dr. Anomaly
User ID: 956215 United States 05/22/2012 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person born on US soil is legally a "native citizen", not a "natural born citizen". Twit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676 Wrong; again: ... Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 Thats not coming from me. That comes from SCOTUS in the opinion on the Minor vs. Happersett case. The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. [link to law2.umkc.edu] Allow me to emphasize a bit that seems to have escaped notice. It says that the parents must also be citizens of that country. Obama's father never was a citizen of the United States. End of discussion. What's so hard about that? Three Bribes for the Democrats sneaky and sly, Seven for the Bankers in their halls of gold, Nine for Labor Unions sucking us dry, One for the Liar Chief leaving us cold In Washington D.C. where politicians lie. One Bill to rule them all, One Bill to find them, One Bill to bring them all and in the debt-ness bind them In Washington D.C. where politicians lie. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14962676 United States 05/22/2012 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course we know this already. The time for this was 3 years + ago, however. The closer Joe or others get, the closer we get to Martial Law now. Proving The O to be unqualified is a National Security issue now. Sherrif Joe would be viewed as a terrorist worse than Osama and summarily taken out or arrested. There is the 25th amendment prescription, but who cares in government anymore? Quoting: Top Hat Seriously, people are genuinely afraid for their lives too much to go after him. He is not going to willingly leave the job, elections be damned. The bank runs will start in July or August with all hell breaking lose by September and October. The Constitution and elections will be suspended to avert a worldwide crisis and meltdown. It all hinges Obama staying in office for this side of the world for "stability." He just got lucky. He was in the right place at the right time. He's not going anywhere except to the underground bunkers at the designated and appointed time. Obama's eligibility has ALWAYS been a national security issue because if any other country or entity held information proving him ineligible, they could make him dance like a marionette (Putin). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16455769 Slovenia 05/22/2012 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A person born on US soil is legally a "native citizen", not a "natural born citizen". Twit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14962676 Wrong; again: ... Read the definition of term “Natural Born Citizen” in the Black’s Law Dictionary (cited as a legal authority in many SCOTUS cases) or in the Blackstone’s “Commentaries on the Laws of England” (which played the leading role in the development of the American legal system)... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 Thats not coming from me. That comes from SCOTUS in the opinion on the Minor vs. Happersett case. The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. [link to law2.umkc.edu] Allow me to emphasize a bit that seems to have escaped notice. It says that the parents must also be citizens of that country. Obama's father never was a citizen of the United States. End of discussion. What's so hard about that? Allen (Allen v. Arizona Democratic Party) tried to use Minor vs. Happersett case against Obama, but failed. Judge Richard E. Gordon dismissed the action: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16455769 [link to www.scribd.com] "Most importantly, Arizona courts are bound by United States Supreme Court precedent, and this precedent fully supports that President Obama is a natural born citizen under the Constitution and thus qualified to hold the office of President. See United States v. Wong Kim Ark (addressing U. S. Const. amend. XIV) ; Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana (addressing the precise issue). Contrary to Plaintiff’s assertion, Minor v. Happersett does not hold otherwise." That settles it. Next. * |
Top Hat
User ID: 10235814 United States 05/22/2012 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course we know this already. The time for this was 3 years + ago, however. The closer Joe or others get, the closer we get to Martial Law now. Proving The O to be unqualified is a National Security issue now. Sherrif Joe would be viewed as a terrorist worse than Osama and summarily taken out or arrested. There is the 25th amendment prescription, but who cares in government anymore? Quoting: Top Hat Seriously, people are genuinely afraid for their lives too much to go after him. He is not going to willingly leave the job, elections be damned. The bank runs will start in July or August with all hell breaking lose by September and October. The Constitution and elections will be suspended to avert a worldwide crisis and meltdown. It all hinges Obama staying in office for this side of the world for "stability." He just got lucky. He was in the right place at the right time. He's not going anywhere except to the underground bunkers at the designated and appointed time. Obama's eligibility has ALWAYS been a national security issue because if any other country or entity held information proving him ineligible, they could make him dance like a marionette (Putin). Agreed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11208970 United States 05/22/2012 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In a major development in his probe of Barack Obama’s eligibility for Arizona’s 2012 presidential ballot, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has dispatched his lead Cold Case Posse investigator and a deputy detective to Hawaii. Quoting: CrazyJarhead The mission to Obama’s purported birthplace comes as the Hawaii Department of Health continues to resist efforts by Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett to verify that the Honolulu agency has a valid birth certificate on file for Obama. Former Bergen County, N.J., detective Mike Zullo and his volunteer team were commissioned by Arpaio last September to investigate Obama’s eligibility after citizens raised concerns about the authenticity of the birth record the White House posted on its website. Zullo’s team announced March 1 that it found probable cause that the document is a forgery. Sign the petition now to show members of Congress how many Americans demand constitutional integrity. Zullo’s investigation is a volunteer effort, but the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office has sent him to Hawaii with an MCSO deputy detective for safety reasons and to act as a liaison between MCSO and local law enforcement. WND reporter Jerome Corsi is embedded with the investigators in Hawaii with the provision that reporting during the trip be curtailed to protect the investigation. [link to www.wnd.com] Yeah Donald Trump did too. When are you people gonna give up on this. I mean there is an election this year, just vote him out. Oh yeah, you nominated the "least interesting man in the world." I can see how you would be scared. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13054977 United States 05/22/2012 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Morans on the Loose again? Quoting: patrap Joe,let it go. LOL Arizona, man Im glad Louisiana aint involved. G.W. Bush was a idiot, and well, now you want someone who thinks the tree's in Michigan are da right Height? LOL USMC. Semper Fi. patrap? Why does it sound familiar? You're that guy from Underground weather? Louisiana reference is also where he's from... Typical libtard. Obama is a serial manipulative liar. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13054977 United States 05/22/2012 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Morans on the Loose again? Quoting: patrap Joe,let it go. LOL Arizona, man Im glad Louisiana aint involved. G.W. Bush was a idiot, and well, now you want someone who thinks the tree's in Michigan are da right Height? LOL USMC. Semper Fi. patrap? Why does it sound familiar? You're that guy from Underground weather? Louisiana reference is also where he's from... Typical libtard. Obama is a serial manipulative liar. [link to www.wunderground.com] Scroll down to #68 comment. :) |